B10 Hoops Chaos - PSU beats #4 Iowa
Mates,
Just checking hoops scores and incredibly, PSU beat Iowa 79-75 in a game played at State College. PSU had a 12-13 record, 3-9 in the B10 before the game. How did that happen? And does this give Michigan some sliver of light that they might be able to upset Iowa last game of the regular season?
XM
February 17th, 2016 at 10:15 PM ^
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February 17th, 2016 at 10:15 PM ^
You don't need this to know we have more than a sliver of hope. Did you see the game at Iowa? We were compeitive
February 17th, 2016 at 11:29 PM ^
Right... yeah man the team that just got rocked against Ohio State lucked out against Purdue and blown out vs IU and State. No sorry this team lacks effort on a nightly basis and they all look lost on offense and defense. Walton is the only one who shows up on both ends.
February 18th, 2016 at 8:54 AM ^
How did we "luck out" against Purdue? We were 5-20 from downtown, not exactly a banner shooting performance.
I do think we need LeVert back because it seems like Walton is hitting the wall. If we get him back we'll be a different team.
February 18th, 2016 at 11:13 AM ^
I am afraid it may be too late for LeVert to make a significant difference. He is, by his own admission, way out of game shape and was too sore to practice after playing 11 minutes against Purdue. I hope I'm wrong but we are quickly running out of season.
February 17th, 2016 at 10:17 PM ^
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February 17th, 2016 at 10:18 PM ^
Unfortunately this isn't the first time a #4 ranked team has lost to a bad PSU team in a 3/4 empty Bryce Jordan Center in February.
*whimpers*
February 17th, 2016 at 10:23 PM ^
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February 17th, 2016 at 10:24 PM ^
I'm still bothered by that final regular season game. Instead of 2 of 3 we would've won 3 B1G titles in a row.
February 17th, 2016 at 10:25 PM ^
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February 17th, 2016 at 10:37 PM ^
Yeah, maybe if we can actually win one. Getting all the way there just to lose is the worst feeling in the world.
Can you imagine how different the perception of our program is if instead of being 1-5 in championship games, we're 3-3? 5-1?!
February 17th, 2016 at 11:30 PM ^
...something would be different. I don't think we vacate anything from the Fab Five years and basically force the NCAA to provide proof of these Ed Martin payments to Webber while he was still playing basketball here.
February 17th, 2016 at 11:35 PM ^
The NCAA says we didn't play Basketball for 8 years.
People with brains know otherwise. They can put all the little asterisks next to the results, but they happened.
They can take down banners, but they can't erase them being up there in the first place.
And if we're so ashamed of what happened during that period, why is Chris Webber's picture in displays inside Crisler?
February 18th, 2016 at 1:00 AM ^
I always thought we rolled over on the allegations with little hard proof, at least when it's related to Webber. I think that if we were a basketball school like UNC or UCLA, we probably fight a little harder on the charges.
February 18th, 2016 at 8:16 AM ^
We should submit to get ours back.
February 18th, 2016 at 8:27 AM ^
paying money is way more serious.
February 18th, 2016 at 8:56 AM ^
In Webber's case, the "family friend" clause could have exempted him from sanction altogether, since his relationship with Martin went back to middle school.
February 18th, 2016 at 6:39 AM ^
I've been saying this for years, every time somebody says "We're a football school, we don't have tradition in basketball, we'll never be a premier program because we don't have the history, etc etc etc..."
If we're .500 in national championship games, we're one title ahead of sparty. No one is confusing us with Kentucky at that point, but we're gonna be thought of as a dual sport school and not just a football school that makes a run once in a while. Two games does that for us.
Now if we had managed to win five or even six of those games, I don't care what the NCAA says about the Fab 5 years, you're talking about a consensus top 10 program historically at that point. All by just winning four or five more games.
Now sure, there are a handful of schools that might be viewed similarly if a couple more breaks had gone their way. My point is that we're THAT CLOSE to being viewed as a top tier program, so all the naysayers that keep insisting that it's not worth our time to be emotionally invested in Michigan basketball need to knock it off. There's no reason to be that much of a pessimist. We're one elite coach away from being right there with anyone in the country on a regular basis. The money is there, the brand is there, the fan/alumni base is there, the national recruiting reach and local talent hotbed are both there.
February 18th, 2016 at 6:53 AM ^
February 18th, 2016 at 7:09 AM ^
from the referees.
February 17th, 2016 at 11:08 PM ^
I'll happily take those two title game appearances and Elite Eight finish instead of winning the B1G and not escaping the first week of the NCAA tournament.
February 17th, 2016 at 10:22 PM ^
February 18th, 2016 at 9:44 AM ^
College teams who aren't loaded with NBA talent just can't stay at a high level all year.
That's not necessarily true. There have been national championship teams that barely produced any NBA players.
Iowa does seems to generally fade late in seasons, but I think that may have more to do with McCaffery's tough approach than anything.
February 17th, 2016 at 10:23 PM ^
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February 17th, 2016 at 10:27 PM ^
February 17th, 2016 at 10:31 PM ^
There's only room for 1 McCaffrey in this conference. Unless Christian wanted to transfer to Michigan, which I'd be totally cool with.
February 17th, 2016 at 10:24 PM ^
February 17th, 2016 at 10:30 PM ^
They nearly fell to Minnesota this weekend, too.
February 17th, 2016 at 10:31 PM ^
The best time to play Iowa is at the end of the season. The last few years, they have struggled at the ends of seasons.
February 17th, 2016 at 10:35 PM ^
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February 17th, 2016 at 10:53 PM ^
, so a few unexpected losses is to be expected, especially on the road in the B1G. But they are still a solid team, we would trade their bigs for ours in a heartbeat.
February 17th, 2016 at 11:00 PM ^
they suddenly showed up against that monster-sized purdue team, then of course disappeared against ohio. can they show up and stay strong, or was that just a little blip when they played well on saturday?
February 17th, 2016 at 11:07 PM ^
February 17th, 2016 at 11:15 PM ^
Motivating players in the pros is up to the players.
Motivating players in high school and college is up to the coach.
This should've been easy for Beilein and staff:
A. They just knocked off a top 15 team.
B. They're playing a hated rival.
C. They were technically a PSU upset over Iowa away from playing for a share of the B1G title if they win out.
If that doesn't motivate this team, I don't know what will.
February 17th, 2016 at 11:20 PM ^
February 17th, 2016 at 11:34 PM ^
I think he was more than just a gritty player. I think he had that dog in him to lead the team. I was hoping Walton was that type of guy, but he's not quite there yet.
February 18th, 2016 at 12:12 AM ^
well Walton will be a sr next year, and if it hasn't happened yet, not sure it will. It seems like that intensity and leadership is more innate then acquired. Hopefully Simpson can help in that department next year, but seems tough for a fr to take the reins right away. soph year seems to be when that clicks.
I was hoping Doyle could bring that - he has the intensity. just needs the hands to get out on the court more.
February 18th, 2016 at 2:33 AM ^
Though I can understand not knowing that considering there were always people in the way during the telecast.
February 18th, 2016 at 3:00 AM ^
This was a game where it came down to missing far too many open shots.
February 18th, 2016 at 6:47 AM ^
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February 17th, 2016 at 11:06 PM ^
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February 18th, 2016 at 1:37 AM ^
Isaiah Washington is a local kid and my son spent a lot of time with him. It's nice to see him off the bench and playing real minutes. We root for him, not so much PSU.
February 18th, 2016 at 5:53 AM ^
it's good to know that Penn State is a basketball school now