Athlon Ranks B1G Football Coaches (Hoke 2nd)
Athlon ranks Hoke 2nd only to newcomer Urban Meyer. Commence the wails of righteous indignation from E. Lansing that Mark Dantonio is ranked under Hoke.
Article is here http://www.athlonsports.com/college-football/ranking-big-tens-college-football-coaches .
1. Urban Meyer (OSU)
2. Brady Hoke (Tremendous!)
3. Mark Dantonio (MSU)
4. Pat Fitzgerald (NU)
5. Bret Bielema (Wis)
6. Kirk Ferentz (Iowa)
7. Bo Pelini (Neb)
8. Jerry Kill (MN)
9. Tim Beckman (IL)
10. Danny Hope (Purdue)
11. Bill O'Brien (PSU)
12. Kevin Wilson (IU)
I think Ferentz should be ahead of Bielema, Fitzgerald, and Dantonio.
His stock has been dropping over the past few years with some lackluster teams. If this was back in the mid 2000s, Ferentz is a lock for the third place. Now though, Sparty and Wisky have turned in better seasons recently and on a repeated basis.
Meyer is number one despite never having coached a game at OSU?
Am I missing something?
I imagine it's based off previous accomplishments.
that put's Hoke in the bottom half, no?
Granted he has only coached one season at Michigan but he went 11-2 and won a BCS bowl. How would that put him in the bottom half? I'm not saying it garners a #2 but bottom half, no way.
I know this might sound like homerism but I would take Hoke over anyone in the country. He will keep proving it as time goes on.
Hoke has won three Coach of the Year awards in the past four seasons - in three different conferences. There is no way you could put him in the bottom half.
like having 32 players arrested in 6 years?? that would put him #1 in the Big10.
The guy has 2 national titles.
wiythout ever having coached at PSU.
on WHAT basis do they rank Urban Meyer who hasnt coached ONE SINGLE GAME as the top Big10 coach??? We will see how good a coach he is when hes not able to Cheat an Lie while under scrunity at OLIEO ST
2 National Championships? Obviously there are questions about his ethics but you can't deny that he is a good coach and has them. On what basis should anyone be above him? Just sayin'.
If you're a good coach it doesn't matter if you coached last week or last year. It's something that doesn't just disappear over night. The guy turned Utah into a great program when he was there and won 2 NTs in the SEC.
tempus fugit
2 National titles and 2 conference titles in the best conference in college football.
The Big Ten is not special.
I would hope it's not the reason he won't.
Hoke will be the reason.
You should probably sit a few plays out.
With Tressel and JoePa gone Meyer has 2 more national titles to his name than all the other B1G head coaches combined. Other than moving Ferentz above and Bielema right behind Dantonio I think this list is pretty legit.
That they are giving Meyer credit for his past successes at Utah and Florida. If that's what they are doing, then fine. He's got the hardware to back it up, though It does feel strange that a coach can be ranked #1 in a conference in which he hasn't coached a game. But then again, Hoke is #2 when he's only coached one full season, albeit a pretty successful one. Can't wait to see the top 3 settle this on the field...
Meyer also won at BGSU- which itself is an accomplishment- with 8-3 and 9-3 records before bolting for Utah.
yeah but 8-3 at BGSU is more impressive then say going 11-1 Ball State.
Hoke really is probably too high at this point based on accomplishments. I think he can/will end up as the best coach of all of these guys but he has A LOT to prove even after the Sugar Bowl victory. Bielema has 2 Rose Bowl appearances (no wins I know) and won the B1G last year and has had a share before (this does not mean that he is not a douche). Take us to the Rose Bowl this year Brady and I will happily annoint you top of the B1G.
When I take the homer hat off, Hoke should not be number 2. Bielema should be given more credit than he is getting.
My guess is that they're giving Hoke's record more weight than Bielema's because he turned around two historically downtrodden programs and a third that was in the midst of its roughest stretch in history, winning two coach of the year awards in the process. Wisconsin, though it's not Michigan or Ohio State, is not a super-difficult place to win at. Bielema took over a program that Barry Alvarez had left in pretty good shape. Also, Hoke has taken Michigan's already excellent recruiting up a notch, whereas Bielema has never been known as a great recruiter. But yeah, it would still be a reasonable list if Bielema were ranked #2 instead of Hoke.
If we take off our maize and blue glasses, it's hard to dispute that no one else in the conference has a resume anywhere near as stellar as Meyer's.
There are not enough teams in the B1G to accurately show how low Danny Hope should be.
but only because Ron Zook isn't around anymore...Hope would've been Zook'd on that list IMO.
Athlon would've put Zook at number 8 but he would've called them and said he'd rather be number 10.
1. Hoke (Tremendous!)
2. Bret Bielema (Wis)
3. Kirk Ferentz (Iowa)
4. Pat Fitzgerald (NU)
5. Bo Pelini (Neb)
6. Meyer (OSU)
7. Dantonio (MSU)
8. Jerry Kill (MN)
9. Tim Beckman (IL)
10. Danny Hope (Purdue)
11. Bill O'Brien (PSU)
12. Kevin Wilson (IU)
"Considering he was born in Ohio, Hoke isn’t necessarily a Michigan Man."
Ah, yes. Where you were born is where the whole Michigan man thing is from. Someone better break the news to Bo that he's disqualified from being considered a Michigan man. I honestly don't expect everyone to know everything about U of M football, but if you're going to dare try to throw the our Michigan Man thing at us, try not to say something so damn ignorant.
Was thinking the same thing when I read that.
Yost was from WV and Crisler was born in IL. So yeah, there's those guys too.
Moeller was born in Ohio and Lloyd was born in Tenneessee! We don't have any michigan menz! Oh n0ez!
I suspect Bielema is too highly ranked... it seemed like it was poor in-game coaching decisions that led to each of Wisconsin's losses last year, and that's not a new trend.
Bielema is undoubtedly too high. His game management/play calling has been atrocious in multiple high profile games in the past couple years. The TCU loss still irks me.
2 years in a row, which is better than any other coach has done. Getting the team set up to win a bunch of games and get to that goal, that's why he's being rewarded. He should be ahead of Dantonio and Fitzgerald (though he is a douche).
Bielema's had a fantastic record at Wisconsin. He's actually improved upon Barry Alvarez's work, which no one thought possible. He looks dumb but he's gotten results.
Beilema is a good coach with some impressive success, but using his record to prove it isn't the strongest argument. Wisconsin refuses to play a non-conference opponent with a pulse. They can automatically pencil in W's for the first four games of the season.
Aren't coaches ultimately evaluated on wins and losses? How can I evaluate him without looking at his record? Besides, Alvarez scheduled tons of cupcakes, too.
Beilema is a good coach with some impressive success, but using his record to prove it isn't the strongest argument.You can make this argument for a guy like Hoke when he was in the apples/oranges situation of coaching at BSU/SDSU, but in Bielema's case, his entire head coaching career has been at Wisconsin. His record is a fairer metric than subjective things like judging his play calling.