M-Dog

November 28th, 2016 at 12:08 PM ^

IT'S HAPPENING!

Keep lobbying our case folks!  It's starting to stick.

Public perception really is at a tipping point.  We are starting to see it.

This could happen.

 

oaklen

November 28th, 2016 at 2:32 PM ^

I've been trying to lobby our case on reddit, although I've been treading very lightly. I even started a thread questioning Wiscy's argument to be in the playoff EVEN if they beat PSU, because their resume just really doesn't hold up to ours if Colorado beats Washington. There was a Wiscy fan trying to take the angle of looking at ranks from the time they were played, and subsequently pegged MSU and NEB as quality wins.. That was very silly. I've seen numerous Buckeye fans say they think we are still the 3rd or 4th best team in the country. So, it's out there, I think.

M-Dog

November 28th, 2016 at 6:44 PM ^

Herbstreit.  Pat Forde.  ESPN.  "College Football Sunday" show.  Numerous other outlets.

They are all coming around to the "If Ohio State is in then Michigan should be in." point of view.

TheDirtyD

November 28th, 2016 at 11:33 AM ^

It's not just one play guys. It should have never gotten to that point. Ohio State mugged Michigan all over the field and never got whistled minus twice. It's a joke I feel bad for the kids who are playing this game for free while the associated schools and entertainment companies reap the profits. They are the ones who are paying for this. Ohio State isn't the better team even in Columbus. Neutral field and Michigan wins easy.

MGoMarley

November 28th, 2016 at 12:36 PM ^

I wish I had the time to go back and rewatch the game analyzing every spot.  Before the first half I noticed every spot of theirs was generous while we were being shorted 6 inches regularly.

This is a game of inches. Doing this goes unnoticed and has an impact eventually. I'm not talking about the one spot in OT. If you are going to affect the game as an official, this is the easiest way without people catching on.  if someone.. say a college kid about to go on break with ESPN app, can pause and screenshot when where the play is down and compare that to where it is marked for both teams, it would be greatly appreciated.  This is something that if it was a pattern, could have a serious impact on people's opinion of the game.

The power of reddit and the internet would come in handy if there was something to that.

jmblue

November 28th, 2016 at 11:37 AM ^

This opens up a issue I've thought about.  If a team goes on the road and take its opponent to overtime before losing (essentially a tie game), can we really conclude that it was inferior and should be ranked lower?

 

 

Hard-Baughlls

November 28th, 2016 at 11:41 AM ^

and we are in....so long as the lobbying continues.

With all due respect, PSU and Wisconsin are not on Michigan's level.

HarbaughHarbaughBlue

November 28th, 2016 at 11:49 AM ^

thinks in a different way we are fucked. Penn state wins, they beat OSU so they're in over osu and that makes it OSU vs Michigan and we would obviously be the ones not making it. Maybe the people on here going for Penn state should be going for Wisconsin because we have the year to head over both just more convincingly over Penn State... you need to consider more more than the final score when choosing who to root for in the big ten championship.

Red is Blue

November 28th, 2016 at 12:20 PM ^

Agreed, it is Michigan's best interest if Wisky wins.  If PSU wins, then PSU, OSU and Michigan would all have beaten Wisky, they'd be 1-1 against each other and PSU would have the B1G Championship and OSU has only one loss.

OTOH, if Wisky wins, Wisky lost to both OSU and Michigan.  With the better overall record and head to head win, OSU would seem to be in (unless the committee puts lots of emphasis on the conference championship, it which case Michigan is out either way).  And now you're down to Wisky v. Michigan if there is a second B1G team.  Michigan won head to head, Wisky has B1G championship.  Both took OSU to OT and lost, but Wisky was at home.  Could be interesting.

Washington or Clemson needs to lose (hopefully both) and it wouldn't hurt if Oklahoma lost too.

Moonlight Graham

November 28th, 2016 at 12:33 PM ^

in that scenario (Washington and/or Clemson also lose) the committee might just say fuck it and put them in: Conference champion plus their loss to CMU was even less legit than ours to OSU ... that last second hook and ladder play should not have happened so they've really only had one loss. I know their SOS is crap, but...