And the hits keep coming: Deadspin Article 8 August - Details of Courtney Smith's protection order request
So this protection order was filed July 20th and he was fired 4 days later.
I'm failing to see how this implicates Urban or OSU.
It’s ok. You’re not the only stupid person on Earth.
August 8th, 2018 at 10:17 PM ^
Soooo are you going to leave after this is over? Or simply put; What’s your end game? If urban stays... if he’s let go.. suspended? I can’t wait to see your take, then I wish you well on your future endeavors.
i hope “you guys” keep him after this, only to have more facts come out about his character flaws... if that’s even possible. But keep standing by that fine gentleman. I’m sure he’ll win football games, which is all that matters right?
August 8th, 2018 at 11:03 PM ^
How does that sand taste?
August 8th, 2018 at 11:20 PM ^
I'm failing to see how this implicates Urban or OSU
That happens when you are a blind homer.
August 9th, 2018 at 12:41 AM ^
So we’re supposed to believe that the thing which finally got Urban to act against Zach Smith was the filing of a civil protective order. We’re supposed to ignore the fact that just a few weeks earlier, Smith had been charged with criminal trespass.
We know that both osu and Meyer knew about the criminal trespass charge. And they did not fire Smith. But then a civil protective order suddenly stoked their outrage? Bullshit. The impetus for his firing was that the media found out about 2015. As soon as that went public, OSU fired him.
And you know this. Stop the act.
No one is ever going to jabloyou, you only jacockblock your self to no avail.
Honestly, I think everyone is just waiting for the really bad stuff to drop after Urban is reinstated, making OSU look like even bigger jackasses.
Which possibility sort of suggests they may have no other choice but to fire him, right?
That’s what I think as well, you subject yourself to further embarrassment if he stays.
But knowing that you know he should be fired, their only logical conclusion is to keep him. Unless they know that by you knowing they would be forced to keep him, thus they must choose to fire him.
This is awesome. Here, have a thumbs-up!
August 8th, 2018 at 10:06 PM ^
Thank you. In this iteration of my existence on MGoBlog, I am gloriously immune to whims of thumbs up's and down's. I exist in stasis and am blissfully unaware of the impact of my comments.
August 9th, 2018 at 12:21 AM ^
Bravo sir
Link doesn’t work, of course. But, even without reading it, unless this implicates that Urban knew the extent of things then it doesn’t matter insofar as Urban’s fate is concerned. Smith has already been fired, so anything on how horrific he was don’t matter anymore except to further show what a horrible person he is.
It lends credence to the fact he likely knew what was going on based on how bad Zach actually was. There's no way all of this doesn't get back to the head coach when Courtney is going multiple times to the police begging for help.
He knew and turned a blind eye. I hope they roast the fucker.
It's pretty important to her and her kids though. That shouldn't take a backseat to Urban Meyer coaching or not.
It paints a picture of Smith as a psychopath (which is believable, given how he looked in his interview, as well as the texts he apparently sent) and makes you wonder just how Urban Meyer could have allowed him to be part of his program for a decade.
All of that, while repeatedly preaching that respect for women was a core part of the team's values.
Zach Smith and Rick James need to be rehab partners.
I disagree. Terminating Meyer isn't a legal thing. Like, this isn't a court case. They can do it whenever for whatever reason (just choose to pay his buyout or not, if they have evidence of Urban not holding up to his end of the contract).
Nevertheless, the worse it looks, the more pressure there is on the University to distance itself from anyone and everyone that may or may not be associated. They can't afford to risk missing some sort of implication of Meyer for something that is horrendous.
Why is she crossing out lines from the statement and using pen to change it? Is this amateur hour?
That's not a dig on her, its on her attorney.
The idea was that she was facing an imminent threat. People file these petitions in a rush and often without attorneys. It’s better to capture the substance than to prioritize the appearance.
I do understand why it looks bad - don’t get me wrong.
Hey, Buckeyes keep saying they want all the facts to come out. I agree.
What is crazy is that this woman would have continued to be abused/ harassed if her husband was literally anybody but a coach at OSU.
Why are cops protecting this dude? Because he’s an average WR coach?
Because football... 95% of that state are OSU fans etc. They live and die by that football program. Police looking the other way wouldn’t surprise me.
August 8th, 2018 at 10:11 PM ^
All you have to do is look at the 2015 DV investigation. The PD released a revised police report after Meyer's press conference. Their spokeswoman said the city thought had enough evidence to proceed, but the county prosecutor refused to file charges. One of the assistant prosecutors said she didn't know why and hoped she wasn't pressured.
It may have all been on the up and up, but there's hardly a united front saying so. Looks more like CYA in case it blows up in their faces.
August 8th, 2018 at 10:47 PM ^
Yeah I hope someone goes after that police department. Does the FBI investigate all of these findings because they dropped the ball too? Just a bunch of fucking idiots who enabled the situation along with Meyer as well.
If you've got cops and a prosecutor covering for a sick dude like this who is tormenting his wife then Ohio is even more fucked up than I thought it was. Seriously the cult around the Buckeyes is way worse than it is in other places. Like pathologically bad.
August 8th, 2018 at 10:27 PM ^
He's a below average coach, not an average one. He's an even worse person.
Even though it is deadspin, I am shocked reading that letter. Reads like what happens in Criminal Minds. Damn. Feel bad for her. Hope Smith and Meyer gets the worst treatment.
He sounds like a great role model for 18-24 year old males.
some way some how this is Ed Warinner’s fault right?
Dude needs a dong punch.
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August 8th, 2018 at 10:24 PM ^
Hey! Remember when Deadspin was claiming that all of us were stupid asshole Michigan fanboys because we questioned Michael Rosenberg's reporting on alleged rampant NCAA practice violations on the part of Rich Rodriguez's Michigan football program?
See, what bothers me about this is that I am the umpteenth person to comment on this story and unless I missed it, I am the first person to make the blandly obvious observation that this is the sort of statement that is filed in court on an ex parte basis, without the other side having any involvement and with basically no recourse or repercussion for the person making allegations. The system is (perhaps rightly) set up to make it easy for someone in fear of physical violence to get a protection order first, and ask questions later.
The absolute WORST way to make use of one of these documents is for a bunch of douchebags at an outlet like "Deadspin" publish it as fact and to pretend that it is an official charging document by some officer of the court.
August 8th, 2018 at 10:27 PM ^
You speak of Deadspin like it's a person. OK, one writer there bashed us like 10 years ago. It's probably time to move on.
(And really, do we want to carry water for RichRod at this point, after what apparently went down at Arizona?)
August 8th, 2018 at 10:35 PM ^
Umpteenth to comment? It says the amount of comments directly on the post dude. There were 28 before I posted this. That was the easiest thing to research out of everything you wrote.
August 8th, 2018 at 10:41 PM ^
I think most people reading this understand that it's a petition made by Courtney Smith seeking a protective order against Zach Smith; the point of protective orders is to be largely unilateral in their creation. Smith is, as his legal right, disputing this after it was granted. The larger takeaway from it isn't the procedural nature but the level to which Smith continued harassing her and the children. Taking pictures without their knowledge, going to her new boyfriend's house, etc. They could all be lies, and Smith will have his day in court to dispute that. But considering we have ample evidence that Smith is a raving lunatic who beats up women, I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt to Courtney's claims.
Also, if someone who is no longer at Deadspin posting an article that, correctly, pointed out that some UM fans freaked the crap out about Rosenberg's crappy reporting and was a bit extreme bothers you, I don't know what to say.
Remember when your concern trolling got so bad that Brian even went so far as to give you your own blog on his server so you'd just go away and let us discuss things without your five-page rants about Rich Rodriguez and Michael Rosenberg?
Yeah. Now you're doing it again. About the same old stuff. And now you're mixing it with some pretty sick Men's Rights crap disguised as legalese. Enough.
Give up the shtick of pretending to be a Michigan fan already.
Maybe I missed it, but I don’t see anybody in the thread acting like this is some sort of police report or documentation from anyone other than Courtney Smith. The posters just believe her. And you are just being sanctimonious and trying to protect Zach Smith, I guess? I don’t know what your rant here is trying to prove.
August 8th, 2018 at 11:03 PM ^
The guy is crazy, Urban knew it in 2009 while at Florida and still brought him to osu. Honestly, I see no way Urban can survive this. I also think Gene Smith will be resigning.
August 9th, 2018 at 12:23 PM ^
OSU fan here. Thought you might want to know what is going around OSU message boards, from actual reliable sources that are sort of the equivalent of UMBig11 (is that the right name?) here.
First, the reason that Meyer did not fire Zach is that he did not believe Courtney. Zach denied hitting her, but much more importantly, she called the police on him many times, and the police never arrested him. It is rare in Ohio (I assume elsewhere too) that 911 is called in a domestic abuse case and the man is not arrested. But multiple different officers did not arrest Zach. Meyer concluded that if the actual authorities cannot find evidence of abuse, then there was not grounds to fire Zach.
Second, the sources have not said this but are starting to hint that McMurphy's text messages have been altered. Zach swears that they are altered. Some of the wording in Zach's and Shelley's messages is unusual and is similar to wording that Courtney uses regularly. Also, McMurphy originally reported that Zach was arrested in 2015 and claims to have a version of a police report where the arrested box is checked; but other reporters have made public records requests and the reports they have gotten from the police did not have the box checked; so far, McMurphy has not released the version that he has, despite multiple requests that he do so. Too early to tell if McMurphy was relying on falsified documents, but maybe.