Al Borges = Mike Martz

Submitted by randyfloyd on November 5th, 2011 at 7:10 PM

I am starting to believe that Borges thinks he is a genius (just like Mike Martz), when clearly he is not (also, like Mike Martz).  His inabilaty to not use the "fritz" package is driving me crazy.  This play has not worked since the Minnesota game, and even then it wasn't that great.  I can see him thinking "this play is working great, now I am going to try something completely different".  Touissant up the middle was working fine, and what is with all the "bombs away" shit, when a short passing game makes more sense.  Denard isn't a bad passer, but he isn't a pocket passer because he has the tendency to pass off of his back foot, when pressured. Every fucking time that we had a good gain on offense, Al brought in Gardner to throw a giant bucket of crap on our momentum.  I am not going to whine about the officiating, because if Al wouldn't have burried his head in his gigantic ass, we would have won easily.

I blame this guy, more than the officials ^^^



November 5th, 2011 at 9:36 PM ^

If not for our special teams and two awful turnovers in the first half, that last drive may have been for the win.  So you can't pin that on Borges.

But fans are fans and this is what they do.  Shoot, fan is short for fanatical or some derivative of that so they're playing their part.  But the execution by the offense today?  Bad.  The coaching decisions regarding their use of Denard?  Highly questionable.   No reason to be disgusted, but excuse me if I'm starting to see the beginning of Lloydball coming back after I thought I was finally rid of it.  For that, now I'm disgusted.



November 5th, 2011 at 8:51 PM ^

It appears that Al has too much "They're going to be expecting A, so I'll give them B" in him.

Probably what happens when you spend a career coordinating in programs that don't have that "F you, we're going to do this even though you know we're going to do this, try and stop us."

Two road losses where Ftiz's carries disappear for no reason that we can tell.

I also can't understand the use of the "two" formations after big plays.  I guess to try and take advantage of a confused defense.  I'd rather we run a quick snap with Denard in there and run one of the 2010 plays.


November 5th, 2011 at 9:06 PM ^

is he refusing to roll out Denard and refuses to use a bubble screen.  How can you not roll out Denard on ALL FOUR PLAYS when its 1st and goal from the fricken 3!!!!!!!!!!

That's just stupid.  He's got Denard glued to the pocket.  There were al least 3 times Denard should have run after his first and second options were not open. And what's with the fricken bombs???  Are you kidding me?  Denard throwing over 20 yards not short of a crap shoot.   He can't hit an open receiver.  


November 5th, 2011 at 9:24 PM ^

Sometimes the beaks beat the boys. When was the last time you guys watched a game without blaming anyone? Without reacting with anger and outrage? I think you are all underestimating the portion of a football game that is determined by sheer luck.
<br> I know you've all got your own reasons to attack Borges, but honestly that was as much of a "team loss" as I have ever seen.
<br> You have to be considerably better than your opponent to win on the road, and like it or not officiating is part of that. Michigan is not considerably better than Iowa just yet. But they fought until the end, and I'm okay with that.

Gorgeous Borges

November 5th, 2011 at 9:25 PM ^

Yeah, nobody has any problem with Mattison. He's a miracle worker as far as I'm concerned. Also, I love the recruiting job that Hoke has done, I like how Hoke handles the media, and I'm grateful that he generally isn't a puntasaur. Also, he seems to defer to his coordinators on playcalling, which is good, because it's pretty clear that he's not a guru.

But do you solve a problem like Al Borges? He had a good offense at Auburn in his first couple years (although Auburn's defense was really what made them great). Most of us know he was forced out of Auburn, but we should also note that the offense got worse the following year and Tommy Tuberville was fired, and the guy who replaced him was replaced after the first six games.

I think he'll be good once he gets his guys, but until then, he just is who he is. Which is really too bad. Because in the short term, there's a lot of people who could do a lot better.


November 5th, 2011 at 9:35 PM ^

completely agree with you, if the offense playcalling had been 70-80% i-formation/undercenter all year. I am just wondering if the people saying that today's game is what your going to get with Borges, take it or leave it, have actually been paying attention  all season. Literally all season long, Borges has utilized a good mix of Shotgun and undercenter, with Shotgun plays making up more of the snaps overall. For some reason he got away from that, but those games showed that he is fully capable of using the players talent's better than he did today.


November 5th, 2011 at 9:35 PM ^

but i suspect that we may find out that Denard has an injury that they are not publicizing (for obvious reasons) which is affecting the play calling.  Could be wrong, but he does not look like his normal self when he is running.


November 5th, 2011 at 10:01 PM ^

on the recruiting class coming in either. 

We have no idea how it will turn out and wont for at least 2-3 years.


The people that think Hoke is some fantastic recruiter need to get real. Until the FIRST of his classes plays out...we have no idea how he and his staff are at judging talent.


Some of the kids we have coming in were going to be here regardless of who the coach is simply because its MICHIGAN.


When and IF this class turns out to be a good/great one... i will be the first to say what a great job coach Hoke did.    But until then....they are just a bunch of high-school kids coming into a high profile and high-pressure football program that needs a lot of help.


November 5th, 2011 at 11:00 PM ^

I've been bitching about coaches on um boards for over 15 years but give me a break.

His qb is playing terrible, he's got one decent back who got hurt, he's got wrs dropping passes.

Today denard made bad to terrible throws and decisions constantly. He dials up a te screen (using the much complained about gardner package) right before the pick, that goes for a td if lewan doesn't whiff. Then denard throws the ball into traffic. What's Borges supposed to do when his qb cant throw a dump pass over a de to a wide open smith, when jr is dropping bunnies on 3rd down. Denard missing wide open round tree deep, and he looks slow and indecisive on the run.

People are even bitching about the end. It was a mistake to call the to IMO. Regardless the 4plays went ...denard throws the ball 5 yards out of the end zone, dropped td, td, and pass interference. Would I have rolled him on 4th, yes, but to kill the o coordinator in a game where your qb had tons of opportunities and was simply horrible, the wrs didnt help, and the refs killed you, it's ridiculous.

coastal blue

November 5th, 2011 at 11:11 PM ^

are his insistence on throwing Devin into the game after Denard makes a play, which I feel ruins Denard's flow and, in the two losses, the overabundance of deep balls for the reason you state above. Denard has not been good on those passes this year, but he has been decent on the midrange stuff (in all honesty, if you take the deep balls, the drops, the PI calls and the fact that two of those incompletions on the last drive shouldn't have counted, Denard probably ends up completing about 60% of his passes with no picks and three TDs), yet we still continue to run these long routes with no hope of completing the pass, unless Hemingway wins a jump ball. 


November 6th, 2011 at 12:23 AM ^

We were a tipped pass (on PI) and a bad call (two in 16 seconds really) from 30 points in this game.  I don't think the play calling is what got us.


November 6th, 2011 at 1:11 PM ^

Im willing to give Borges more time. The problem in the Iowa game was turnovers and dropped passes.  Denard actually made better decisions today than previous games. I would like to see him stop forcing passes and start tucking and running when nothing is there.