Ah Crap, Coaches didn't file NCAA audits
http://www.detnews.com/article/20091116/METRO/911160401/U-M-audit--Foot…
From the story, coaches didn't file reports documenting the differences between practice time and workout time from 2008. On the good side, from when we actually filed logs, there are no violations. On the bad side, we didn't file the logs, which are a violation.
Whoops.
November 16th, 2009 at 12:22 PM ^
But how serious can that be? What penalties could the program be hit with?
November 16th, 2009 at 12:24 PM ^
Hard to know what to make of it, or whether the NCAA would regard this as a "major" violation. The central part of the story, was that the audit report was incomplete because the 2008 records were unavailable to the auditors, (since they were never filed).
Either way, this just adds fuel to the fire for those who want to stoke the flames under Rodriguez. It can't be seen as "good", no matter what.
November 16th, 2009 at 12:29 PM ^
I'm guessing it will give Rosenpuke an opportunity to brag and write another column whenever he feels to lazy to go out and write a real one, but nothing major will come of it.
November 16th, 2009 at 12:33 PM ^
Big fines over practice don't appear likely, but man these coaches also don't appear to be helping themselves any in the 'give us a break' department.
November 16th, 2009 at 12:55 PM ^
That audit was done in July before the freep article came out. It is very likely, given MSC's "corrected" comment, that they have been turned in since. So yeah, this is a non-story as all it says is the logs weren't available during the audit but are now.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:06 PM ^
But the practice time SINCE the report came out isn't in "question" (if they were still not crossing all the T's and dotting the I's after the report...well, that's just monumentally stupid). It's what happened before, where the reports came from. Which is what it seems they didn't report on. Shit.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:14 PM ^
That's my point, this audit proves nothing as they had nothing to look at. Those logs were turned in after the audit was completed. The reports are probably kosher. There's no reason to be worrying about this particular report.
All this says is that if you were to audit today, you'd have reports they didn't have in July. It doesn't say if they are good or bad.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:19 PM ^
I think MSC's comment means that the reports that were not filed on time have now been filed. I am assuming that this also means that any reports created since July ahve also been turned in on time. I also assume/hope that the NCAA is not like the IRS and that failure to timely file does not automatically incur penalties assuming the filings are accurate.
I'm still convinced that any violations will be minor. Issues like this are non-monetary, do not involve academic issues/scandals, or seem to provide an athletic advantage (clearly).
EDIT: FA beat me to it.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:10 PM ^
The Freep may have heard that the reports weren't filed properly in July. So they just assumed that meant that RR was cheating the whole time.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:18 PM ^
this is just the beginning. this and any violations the ncaa finds will give the administration a reason (other than the back to back losing seasons) to can him. i think they can void his contract is there are serious ncaa violations. when it rains it pours.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:22 PM ^
MSC and Martin have "pledged allegiance", these people aren't stupid. They know this is our best chance to return to our previously enjoyed national relevance.
November 16th, 2009 at 6:10 PM ^
So, wait, we weren't "nationally relevant" before RR came?
November 16th, 2009 at 1:52 PM ^
That last loss to OSU really snuck up on me.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:28 PM ^
Regardless of what comes out of this whole practice time fiasco, I'd think that this can only hurt our recruiting efforts. As a recruit, the opportunity to play right away is a plus, but it seems like there is just so much negativity coming out of AA right now.
November 16th, 2009 at 2:05 PM ^
nasty feeling in my gut.... These are my symptoms after reading that detnews article.
2 things.
1) Is failing to file those 2008 reports a violation in and of itself?
1a) It was unclear whether or not they have been filed since this audit, which was in July. Have the 2008 reports been filed since?
2) Even if failing to file these reports is NOT a violation and and of itself, this does not look good.
Despite the de jure notion of "innocent until proven guilty", the de facto way of thinking by most people is once someone is accused, they are guilty until proven innocent due to the suspicions that an accusation automatically casts on the accused.
Bottom line: M is already under suspicion b/c of the accusations. The fact that these reports apparently were never filed and thus don't exist means there's no evidence to prove guilt, but the flipside is that there's also no evidence to prove our innocence and exonerate ourselves in this. Thus, the suspicion - which in many people's minds is tantamount to being guilty of violations - is now a cloud which will remain hanging over the program.
The fact that these reports should have been filed and weren't is not, not, not good.
Furthermore, the knee jerk reaction, whether warranted or not, will be, "Well, why would these reports not be filed unless they have something to hide?"
Perception is reality. Once again this is not good.
And, where was the compliance staff in all this? The fact that those 2008 reports weren't filed for so long.... Shouldn't this have raised red flags with them and made them say to the coaches, "Listen guys, you need to get these in, this is important b/c of x, y, and z."
This is not good on the coaches, but even worse IMO on the compliance staff. They're entire job is to ensure compliance, and this is a flagrant dereliction of duty on their part. Someone really, really dropped the ball and that needs to be addressed. The coaches have a ton of different resposnibilities on their plate, the compliance staff has one, and this represents a horrible failure on their part to do the one thing they get paid to do.
November 16th, 2009 at 2:27 PM ^
good post. no idea why someone would neg you for it though