247Sports Starts Benjamin St-Juste at 3 Stars
The most popular college football ranking site, 247sports.com, has once again been the quickest to provide a ranking after a commitment to Michigan.
Benjamin St-Juste has been given a 3-star ranking by 247sports. This is his initial ranking and it may very well rise during the period until signing day as he is a relative unknown. He seems to be pegged as a guy who has a very good physical skillset and body build and hopefully, Harbaugh can mold him into a great college player. The 3-star ranking shows on the team page and the actual numerical score should be displayed starting tomorrow.
As you may be aware, 247sports was also the fastest to upgrade Dytarious Johnson to a 3-star upon his commitment to Michigan. Hopefully, the other sites fall into line and start to view our commits in the light they deserve.
And, of course, the 3-star ranking did not go unnoticed at RCMB. : )
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68 - 34 and goddamned 5
Sparty can chirp all they want but none of them will ever see even a .400 record against Michigan in their lifetimes.
Oh, and that light at the end of the tunnel they see? It's the train.
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And what those dumb assholes probably won't catch it that you can't spell scUM whithout the letters M, S, and U. Just pathetic.
Louie C may be the father of Jhonny Williams.
is dedicated to opposing all things Michigan and only to MSU as an afterthought.
Sparty's worship is duly noted
While it is always nice to have these sites bump up our recruits after committing, I'm somewhat curious on if they are being bumped b/c they committed to Michigan, or b/c they truly "deserve" the stars.
That being said I don't really care about stars at this point. If coach Harbaugh belives in a kid's abilities thats good enough for me. As I think we have all seen our fair share of 5* busts and 2* kids turn into NFL contributers or even stars. However, congrats to Benjamin hopefully his stock keeps rising.
Haha fair enough. Although I would like to say this has been my icon since I joined.
before 1/10/2011?
My mom has been in the hospital for the last 2 days. This is one of the few laughs I've had recently. So thanks and +1
Best wishes for you and your family through this rough time
I think it dilutes what it means to be a 3-star prospect. I think the 5- and 4-star designations are noteworthy. But "Hey, you earned a scholarship offer from a Power Five school, so you're automatically a 3-star" is kind of silly. I think it's the recruiting sites covering their butts so if they turn into a good player, the site can say "Well, we had him as a 3-star, so we didn't completely miss the boat!"
With several of them, it seems to be because they're committed to Michigan. This kid could have committed to CMU or WMU, and he would still be unranked or a 2-star.
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I'm preparing my change of tune in the event that we oversign.
Nah he'll pretend that he always knew Harbaugh was going to bend the rules due to his "unrivaled competitiveness" just like how he was shocked that people thought he was a Nike fanboy haha.
I kid I kid. But yeah judging from that other post on Stanfords decommits, it seems like people are changing their tune real quick. Hypocritical? Probably.
A lot of members will be eating lemons if Harbaugh follows Meyer n co when it comes to things we deem "shady."
What other purpose is there in recruiting, but to optimize talent? JH has not been here 3 or 4 years, such that his excessive signing would mean either that he made false promises to earlier recruits who he now intended to "cut", or that he was trading in "cheap models" he once coveted for a newer/faster version. In short, Mr. Harbaugh seems to know he needs to ADD BODIES...tall ones, fast ones, large ones, 4 Star ones and even 2 Star ones. This man is going to push these young men, and some will not handle his competitive physicality and/or mentality. I think that is just facing the facts. Frankly, i'm pleased he's preparing for the inevitable self purging of our ranks. A typical change of administration causes substantial attrition...and this isn't your "typical" change of administrations. This is one giant Harbaugasm.
tl;dr harbaugh may over sign because it's allowed, but it's bad overall for student-athletes
I don't think he's going to oversign. Apparently at Stanford he retracted some offers to kids who didn't cut it in their games in the fall which I don't have a problem with if he's upfront.
Is oversigning much different from overcommitting? I mean really? If one's a 10, the other is an 8. Would you have no problem with oversigning if Nick Saban told every kid "Hey if you suck in my eyes as a freshman, you're on notice that we won't have you back as a sophomore"? That's not a lot different than Harbaugh saying "You're committed now as a junior, but if you suck in my eyes as a senior, I'll drop your offer and you're on notice you'll need to look elsewhere"? Both are bad.
Okay, ignoring whether it's Michigan/Ohio State/Alabama doing it...
If a kid gets a scholarship to a school, moves there, makes friends there, learns a system, and then is told to get lost, that's an issue. So is the fact that if he wants to earn a degree and/or play football, he has to go somewhere else, make new friends, learn a new system, sit out a season, and then make a career.
If a kid gets a scholarship offer and commits, nothing really changes. Especially for a lot of these kids who "commit" somewhere and then take a bunch of visits. If the coach tells him there's no scholarship offer, then he presumably has a month or two to figure out a new destination without any kind of penalty. (Obviously, yanking a scholarship on National Signing Day is bad form, but doing it in December or early January is still somewhat fair.)
Oh, I agree scenario one is worse. But they're both different fruits from the same garden.
And I'm not sure it's necessarily that easy to find a whole new school to go to in a month. Relationships cool, other schools fill their classes, potential destinations may no longer have room, option E now becomes option A. Plus, your grandparents bought all those t-shirts! Maybe some kids commit and continue to poke around and take visits, but probably more kids commit and end the process. That kid is going to have a shitty time trying to re-enter the fold in mid-December when he's been out of the loop for months. There's always a place to go late. But that place may not be your second, or even fifth choice anymore.
Like I said, getting to campus then being cut is worse. But the other scenario isn't significantly better. I originally said a 10 v. an 8. Maybe it's a 10 v. a 7. Still shitty.
Kids take visits all the time. Some of them flip with no notice. Nothing is official until players sign. I don't see many people saying "Player X flipped from School Y to School Z two months before Signing Day. Player X is a dick!" I don't see much of a reason why the school shouldn't also be able to change its mind.
People on this very blog said that about Taylor Battle, like, two days ago haha. It was clearly a minority opinion, but one that was expressed nonetheless.
And the school has all the leverage and power and ability to target replacements much easier. And they initiated the offer. Bailing on a commitment is not the most noble thing one can do, but that kid is a teenager with several outside forces trying to decide for him (coaches, friends, parents, girls, etc.) A school is, in theory, an educated adult who should stick firmly behind its offer, not a scatterbrained teen making the biggest decision of his life with no real life or decision making experience anyway.
And kids should be smarter about contingency plans, that's fair to say, but if a school pulls the offer and a kid has no other options lined up, telling him he should have prepared better is victim blaming. He accepted an offer. There is no reason the offer should have been pulled. Don't offer if you're not prepared to take the kid.
He'll have a lot of catching up to do...
*picture of Tom Brady and Aaron Hernandez being pals*
I'm just glad those bible classes Mrs. Meyer and Tim had with Aaron helped. He may have killed 10 people instead of 3 without those.
This may be over my head, but not really a fan of this comment in general.
the star system say something like 3* means that the have P5 potential??? So by receiving an offer from Michigan, that would immediately classify someone as a 3* at minimum...
That can't be 100% true that getting an offer from Michigan "would immediately classify someone as a 3* at minimum," because several BigTen teams including UofM and MSU have a player or more currently ranked as a 2 star by 247.
I believe it's something like expecting:
- 5* Future all-American
- 4* P5 starter, all-conference type
- 3* FBS depth player/two deep
- 2* Mid-major guy
- 1* ¯\_(ツ)_/¯