2014-2015 MBB - how good can it be?

Submitted by superstringer on February 12th, 2014 at 11:59 AM

Never count your chickens, right.. .but the "NBA early entries" talk this week -- meaning, "we might not have any this year" -- immediately raises the question: How good can this team be next season?

How reasonable is it to assume no one leaves early for the NFB.  Nik - can't play D and will be outmuscled (a problem THJ is having).  GRIII - need to, um, find game.  Mitch - could be viewed as a major risk if he comes out this year.  And this is supposedly a very deep class for the NBA generally, so as a player it's not a good class to "take a flier" on.

And assuming no one goes early -- which of the most likely recruits (incoming freshman) are likely to play, and what positions.  I have no clue on this.

So project the entire team (sans Jordan, although, that's legitimately half a big loss) comes back, plus Mitch playing full time, plus Donnel joining the lineup, plus whatever freshman will contribute... Is there even available minutes for everyone to play?


turd ferguson

February 12th, 2014 at 12:03 PM ^

I knew this post was coming and I hate it.

Relax.  We're fans.  We can enjoy the present and be excited about the future.  And our looking ahead won't cause the basketball team to lose the Wisconsin or MSU games.  Trust me.


February 12th, 2014 at 1:29 PM ^

That the "you can't talk about next year until next year" thing isn't a real rule.

What I WOULD say is that there are just way too many unknowns for next year (see: McGary, GRIII, Stauskas) to really be able to gauge anything. If they all come back, WOO PARTY TIME. If they all leave, less party time. If it is one of the other 6 combinations (a likelihood, I'd say), it'll be somewhere in the middle.


February 12th, 2014 at 2:08 PM ^

While my responses weren't as well written as this, there are so many competely unknown variables to make this even a interesting topic of discusison.  


These are as entertaining as the topic that will show up next September about 2015 depth charts.


February 12th, 2014 at 2:28 PM ^

I mean, think about it, during the football season, we HAD to look forward to next year because 2013 was absolutely lousy with seam-bursting bags filled with dicks that it was sucking. 

Just because for BB, 2014 seems to be, for the most part, going surprisingly well, doesn't mean you can't daydream a little.  


February 12th, 2014 at 1:23 PM ^

I love this blog but the attitude of some posters around here makes it hard to enjoy sometimes. If you don't like the post, DON'T READ IT! Some people are interested to discuss this topic and many other topics, however there always seem to be these sassy, butt-hurt posters who seem to have nothing better to do with their time than complain about "non-worthy" topics, usually of which have directly to do with Michigan Athletics and thus are very relevant content for this site. 


February 12th, 2014 at 2:22 PM ^

Disagree.  Michi85 couldn't be more right.  It's important that we have responsible moderators such as he to keep anonymous internet Michigan fans in check so that we not post or discuss anything beyond the next 7 days for a number of reasons:

1. So much could change  in a week, let alone next year, thus making such discussion a futile waste of precious time Michigan fans and alums should instead devote either to current Michigan sports activity, or to work and family.  Wives and children nationwide thank Michi85.

2. Moderating speculative topics about that ethereal, unpredictable "future" is an important part of minimizing forum topic clutter because no internet reader worth a lick can be expected to actually, you know, "not read" a topic that enters his/her line of vision.  Ron Burgundy and the teleprompter if you will...

3. Topics that draw attention from the here and now harm the success of the team itself, because everyone knows every Michigan varsity athlete approaches each practice and game with an attitude shaped by what they read from anonymous internet posters here at MGoBlog in the days leading up to the big game, and getting their minds off into dreamland about the possibilities of next year as opposed to the X's and O's of Wisconsin this weekend will be extremely damaging.  Thanks to Michi85's timely intervention, I anticipate he's saved the MBB team 2 or 3 missed shots and a half dozen defensive rebounds.  God bless him!  



February 12th, 2014 at 2:23 PM ^

Well that stinks, but makes perfect sense.  Teams would obviously be using academic schollies all the time to skirt scholarship limits.  So essentially either someone is going to be encourage to go to the NBA a little earlier than maybe they should, or Austin doesn't get to be a part of the team...




February 12th, 2014 at 12:03 PM ^

Maybe it'll be good enough to not have people post about it in the middle of a Big Ten run? Seriously, the day after the season ends I'd be all up to discuss this at length, but I think this team is in the middle of such a great run, they deserve to have the focus be completely on them. 

turd ferguson

February 12th, 2014 at 12:04 PM ^

Can someone explain the scholarship situation for next year?  My memory is that Beilein recruited under the assumption that McGary and/or Robinson would leave early.  Does that leave us with too many guys, potentially?


February 12th, 2014 at 12:05 PM ^

We will be a good team. Even if all three leave. Caria will take another step. Walton will take a huge step. Chatman is a top 30 player. Irvin will be a stud. And don't forget about Horford. Also we have Donnall coming of a redshirt. The team will be really good.


February 12th, 2014 at 12:06 PM ^

I dislike posts like these because we should be cheering for our players to go to the NBA if they are evaluated at that level instead of selishly hoping they'll be back for our entertainment.

I hope Stauskas has an awesome finish to the year and is able to fulfill his dream of playing in the NBA.  Same with GR3 and MM.

But even that aside, it is highly unlikely they all come back which makes any analysis or predictions of future PT an exercise in futility. 


February 12th, 2014 at 12:12 PM ^

Which guy do you think is ready for the NBA right now? Stauskas is white. How many white shooting guards are there in the NBA? He doesn't have the raw athleticism to fall back on if he comes out before he's ready and has a bad season. The slump he had could scare teams out of taking him first round.


February 12th, 2014 at 2:00 PM ^

I saw this coming. You can focus on the racist appearance on the surface of the comment or see the truth of it. There are hardly any white North American contributors in the NBA. There's a stigma associated with them even if they are great athletes. They have a tougher hill to climb to prove themselves because of it. Look at guys like JJ Redick and Jimmer Fredette. Very similar skill set to Stauskas but were NPOY winners,and both stayed for 4 years. Both are role players in the NBA. The NBA wants guys that are the complete package or that can jump through the roof. If GR3 and Stauskas both go to the pros and both have underwhelming years, you can bet your ass GR3 sticks around longer, for that very reason. I don't like it, and I don't like the NBA at all in fact, but that's the way it is. When did Stauskas have bad games this year? Against superior athletes at Duke and MSU. That's a red flag for NBA scouts.


February 12th, 2014 at 2:22 PM ^

Funny I remember the MSU game as Stauskas going off for 19 pts on 7/12 shooting w/ 4 AST to 1 TO with an NBA lottery pick guarding him. If you wanted to argue your point here, that there is a stigma against white North American players, then that would be plausible. Instead you just said he's not really athletic.  You could also argue the stigma is more against 4 year guys than white players since regardless of race, those types are generally frowned upon. Bottom line is guys with way more connections seem to think he's a first round pick even after this "slump" which really includes one bad game.