2012 Defense
I'm watching the snow fall and have too much time on my hands since my appointments cancelled. So, I considered who the starting 11 on defense might be in 2012. Without further ado:
DL: Roh, Campbell, Wilkins, Black
LB: Furman, Robinson, Gordon
S: Turner, Johnson
CB: Dorsey, Christian
Good? Here's hoping
Fast? Very
Big 10 Championship Caliber? I think so
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:39 AM ^
I'd like it even more if you stick Trey DePriest or Lawrence Thomas in there.
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:36 AM ^
DL: Roh, Campbell, Martin, Lolata
LB: Furman, Fitzgerald, Robinson
C: Turner, Christian
S: Dorsey, Johnson
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:37 AM ^
expecting martin to get a redshirt?
February 22nd, 2010 at 4:52 PM ^
I think he was referring to the 2012 BCS title game
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:37 AM ^
That said, Martin will be gone in 2012
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:40 AM ^
Yea I misread '12 as '11.
Then my DL guess will be Roh, Campbell, Black, Lolata
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:43 AM ^
well you know RVB will be there in '11 right?
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:50 AM ^
Van Bergen sorry, took me a while. This is 2012, not 11
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:51 AM ^
Ryan Van Bergen
edit: lol i know i was responding to the person who thought this was about '11 but didnt include RVB
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:50 AM ^
Ryan Van Bergen. The only one man wrecking crew left on the defense with the departure of Graham.
February 22nd, 2010 at 1:05 PM ^
NT- Campbell
DT- Black
DE- Lolata
Hybrid- Roh
Mike- Ryan
Sam- Bell
Will- Furman
F Corner- Turner
B Corner- Christian
Box S- Robinson
Deep S- Doresey
All this talk of 2 years from now is hurting my brain ;/
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:43 AM ^
That's a 4-3. I thought we we're running the 3-4. (Not sarcasm) Do you think Greg will change to the 4-3?
I got
Roh - Campbell - Lalota
Bell - Furman - Fitzgerald - Robinson
Turner - Dorsey - Emillien - Christian
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:43 AM ^
Roh plays a olb technically, but he does at lot of the same things as a lineman. He's just saying Roh will start at the same position he did this year.
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:19 PM ^
Why did this kid get negged for this? While only a technicality, and as an aside I don't think we technically run a 3-4 or a 4-3, Brian has definitely agreed with me on this point, this kid is more right than the OP calling it 4 down lineman. It was certainly not worthy of him getting negged 4 times.
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:22 PM ^
while i didnt neg him i definitely can see why...he said we run a 3-4 and then put roh as one of the 3...roh is more of a DE than an OLB, but if you view this defense as a 3-4 then roh would be an OLB
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:28 PM ^
While I take your point, I don't think it is unreasonable to project that by 2012 you think Roh will have possibly filled out, put on weight, and been made more of a true DE. More than one person on this board, including Brian and other Mod's, have suggested that that may be his future.
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:42 AM ^
Roh will be the hybrid DE/LB.
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:44 AM ^
I'm stocking up on canned goods, you know, plenty of non-perishables, maybe some ramen, and a portable generator. I'm also going to take some seed-bearing plants into my bunker so I can do my part to repopulate the Earth's forests. I can't forget paper, either, of both the toilet and writing varieties, so I can document the apocalypse from the subterranean porthole I've dug out.
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:46 AM ^
Bring a chicken and some feed. Bird feed will stay good almost indefinitely, and eggs can provide some critical protein.
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:39 PM ^
But what do you do with all the poo?
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:44 AM ^
So you're expecting us to play with three defensive ends (Roh, Black, Wilkins), one linebacker (Furman), and three free safeties (Johnson, Robinson, Gordon)? That is truly a unique defense.
The good ol' 4-1-6.
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:49 AM ^
Our pass defense will be great! We might see the rush suffer just a tad, though.
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:51 AM ^
Everydown.
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:45 AM ^
that is very promising.
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:46 AM ^
Fitzgerald won't be here in 2012, unless he redshirts.
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:49 AM ^
Roh-Campbell-Lolata-Black
Demens-Fitzgerald-Robinson
Christian-Dorsey-Emilien-Turner
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:51 AM ^
Not to be a jerk, but do u really not see the post right ahead of you.
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:02 PM ^
haha no but what's worse is I was thinking 2 years from now as if it was already 2011. take out fitz...put in demens. take out demens, put in hawthorne
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:53 AM ^
21 posts in about 9 minutes on a supremely hypothetical topic = snow day in michigan
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:06 PM ^
Months of:
Dilithium Concentrations
Shirt Colors
Hypotheticals
Apathy
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:08 PM ^
Too much time on my hands.
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:54 AM ^
well there is one thing it appears we all can agree on...Christian, Dorsey, and Turner ill all probably be starting in 2012 and that looks very very promising!
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:02 PM ^
Roh - Cambell/Ash - Black/Talbott - Wilkins
Furman - Ryan/MRob - Bell
Turner - MRob/Emilien - Christian
Dorsey
Unsure whether MRob will stay at S or move to LB. I heard Jake Ryan was recruited for DE spot but something tells me he may stay at that MLB spot.
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:12 PM ^
my format was messed up and i forgot about hawthorne..
DT - Black
NT - Campbell
DE - Wilkins
Quick - Roh
Spinner - Furman
LB - Bell
LB - Hawthorne
Box Safety - MRob
CB - Turner, Christian
Deep Safety Dorsey
i think because of furmans incredible athleticism, they will move hawthorne to LB when furman is ready
though i expect players not yet on the team to compete...especially at LB and DE
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:21 PM ^
This is the best one I've seen so far. Both as to format and as to personnel. I'm surprised at how many people leave out Bell in their LB projections. I am excited to see what he can bring.
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:00 PM ^
Van Bergen will not be here in 2012.
This is at least the third person (Martin, Fitzgerald, now Van Bergen) who's been listed who's clearly running out of eligibility in 2011.
My picks to start on defense in 2012:
DL - David Bowens, Pat Massey, William Carr, James Hall
LB - Erick Anderson, Eric Mayes, Clint Copenhaver
DB - James Whitley, Marcus Ray, Brandent Englemon, Todd Howard
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:01 PM ^
Are you seriously taking Crable out is it because of our system of a 4-1-6?
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:05 PM ^
Where is Alfie Burch?
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:10 PM ^
bastard... beat me to it.
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:15 PM ^
Ninef Agakhan, once Barwisized, will easily crack the starting line-up by 2012.
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:04 PM ^
Crable is only going to play special teams. I hear he's great on field goal units.
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:07 PM ^
Too soon
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:41 PM ^
Booooooooo....erns.
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:07 PM ^
Denard Robinson is going to shock the world after this season, put on 75 lbs without losing any speed, spend an off season redshirting and learning some killer moves, and return for the '12 season as the world's most deadly cannonball ninja assassin defensive end.
Book it. No sugarcoat.
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:07 PM ^
That we might be hearing from Davion Rogers. As for Kenny Demens, I think his chance has come and gone. A special teams guy.
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:16 PM ^
Regarding Demens: rank speculation, or insider knowledge?
Nice to see you're dismissing players out of hand before they've entered their upperclassmen years. You fit in quite well here.
February 22nd, 2010 at 3:27 PM ^
Rank speculation and malicious innuendo, that's what I'm talking about!
Seriously though, my only claim to anything inside is that I watched Demens play many times at Detroit Country Day. Fine player but I always thought his level was MAC, not Big 10. Then again, I'm not a professional talent evaluator. Hope I'm wrong about him.
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:12 PM ^
Now this is only a wish list if everything turns out perfectly, you never know how things will go, but this D will lock down.
Lalota-Walk on-Ash-Heininger
Hawthorne-Unknown true freshmen stud everyone loves to jump like 5 guys on the depth chart-Leach(please let there be eligibility)Furman if he's gone.
My backfield will be senior laden and experienced, I'd put turner in but he'll be the #1 pick in the draft and leave early after 11 so that leaves
JT Floyd-Teric Jones at the corners with Christian working his way in on the Nickle packages with Kovacks and Dorsey operating the (no fly zone) deep.
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:14 PM ^
Seriously, after the class we just had, you're still going to have Floyd and Teric Jones at cornerback in 2012?