2009 starting lineup

Submitted by Magnus on

Here are my predictions for the 2009 starting lineup.  It looks very similar to the 2008 starting lineup, considering that we have very few seniors. 

QB - Steve Threet
RB - Sam McGuffie
FB - Mark Moundros
WR - Mathews
WR - Odoms
WR - Stonum
LT - Ortmann
LG - McAvoy
C - Molk
RG - Moosman
RT - Schilling

LE - Van Bergen
DT - Martin
DT - Sagesse
RE - Patterson
OLB - Evans
MLB - Ezeh
OLB - Mouton
CB - Warren
CB - Cissoko
FS - Williams
SS - Brown

Magnus

September 19th, 2008 at 12:19 PM ^

For whatever reason, O'Neill isn't being mentioned as a contributor this year. The coaches are talking more about Omameh than O'Neill.  I think Barnum could push for playing time, but not Wermers, Khoury, or Mealer.  But I think chances are slim that a redshirt freshman is going to beat out a 4th or 5th year player for playing time.

bsb2002

September 19th, 2008 at 11:57 AM ^

o-line will be completely different with zirbel, barnum, oneill, ferrara, etc fighting for spots

 

i wouldnt be surprised if jb fitz moves into one of the lb spots either

 

threet is an open question at best. forcier?

mjv

September 19th, 2008 at 12:34 PM ^

If Threet isn't the starting QB next season, it will be a very bad indication of our level of success in 2009.  True freshman QBs are not a solution, rather a problem.

And the reason O'Neill hasn't been mentioned is that our OT play has been decent, while our OG and OC play has been poor.  Rushing a true freshman into the OL starting lineup is a problem. Let the become physically ready to play and learn how to work together with the other members of the unit.

Chrisgocomment

September 19th, 2008 at 3:50 PM ^

Here ya go, I found Brians definition:

"Tacopants"? Tacopants is Jason Avant's eleven-foot tall imaginary friend. Chad Henne spent much of 2005 hitting him between the numbers, which are unfortunately eight feet off the ground and made of dreams. Blessed with infinite eligibility and the ability to sneak on and off the field without alerting the referees -- made of dreams, remember -- Tacopants has taken a lesser role in the offense as Henne matures but still pops up at inopportune times. The term has its genesis in this post.

turbo cool

September 19th, 2008 at 12:40 PM ^

wow. interesting but are just completely giving up on the current season. Also, our 09 class is really looking good. If we can consistently get classes like this or even better i'm convinced we will be contending for national titles.

mjv

September 19th, 2008 at 1:31 PM ^

Regardless of Threet as a long-term solution, the short/mid term solution is currently on the roster.  A true freshman is not a solution. 

If Threet has been the second coming of Drew Henson during spring practice, we would have still been chasing every top drawer QB in the country.  Here is our depth chart at QB:

1. Threet   2. Sheridan  3. Cone  4.  Feagin

Two of those guys will NEVER see a meaningful snap at QB.  One is a walk on.  That leaves you with one viable QB.  No coach is ever going to let the future of his team hinge on one QB.  So we were going to be chasing QBs all over the country.

chitownblue (not verified)

September 19th, 2008 at 2:22 PM ^

bsb - yes. Obviously if the true freshman next year is better than Threet, he will play. BUT, I think mjvancam's point isn't that your statement isn't true, but that he's skeptical that a true freshman will be better than Threet, seeing as few true freshman QB's are very good.

bsb2002

September 19th, 2008 at 2:54 PM ^

look, i have no idea how good any of the frosh will be. some guys are ready, some arent, and some get asked to play because there just arent better options. it's silly to say "a true freshman is not a solution" because sometimes they are (especially when the guys you have kinda stink). not that often, but sometimes.     

i think we've seen pretty strong indications over the last 6 months or so that the coaches don't view their current options too favorably. and given the performances so far, i can see why.    

given that, i think it's fairly plausible that the coaches hand over the reigns sooner rather than later, ready or not. 

 

Six Zero

September 19th, 2008 at 3:40 PM ^

This is exactly what my NCAA09 roster looks like for the second year of the Rod era.  Although, I should point out I switched to Forcier by the 5th game and will likely stick for the rest of the year.  Also put Fitzgerald in as the MIKE, although it doesn't factor in that much since I play primarily nickel.  Woolfolk's been solid as the 5th DB.

Six Zero

September 19th, 2008 at 6:49 PM ^

Just recruited the appropriate positions and went back into the Edit Rosters and re-named them to our actual guys. I even compiled a list somewhere of all of our current verbals and the numbers they wore in high school, if anyone's interested. THE MOST INTERESTING side note is that FORCIER is one of the names the game recognizes and Nessler will speak during gameplay. Surely this is for his brother at UCLA, but interesting nonetheless.

Six Zero

September 19th, 2008 at 3:40 PM ^

This is exactly what my NCAA09 roster looks like for the second year of the Rod era.  Although, I should point out I switched to Forcier by the 5th game and will likely stick for the rest of the year.  Also put Fitzgerald in as the MIKE, although it doesn't factor in that much since I play primarily nickel.  Woolfolk's been solid as the 5th DB.

mjv

September 19th, 2008 at 4:25 PM ^

bsb -- Chitown has better summarized my thoughts than I had.  The belief that a true freshman QB will be better than a second year starter, while not impossible, is highly unlikely. 

And the issue that I have seen plagues most young QBs is decision making.  Which is where Threet has been very good this year.

Tacopants

September 19th, 2008 at 5:20 PM ^

This is nice and all, but we're 3 games into the 2008 season.  There's over 300 days before the next summer practices start.  In that time, we have 9 more weeks of football season, and (hopefully) bowl practices.

Speculation on OL development really wont get you anywhere, especially since you haven't watched them in drills or in games.  A lot can change between now and then.

That, and if you really want to obsess, go play 5 years of dynasty on NCAA and tell us how many NTs we win, and whether or not Tate Forcier and Shavodrick Beaver are the first ever co-heisman winners.

chitownblue (not verified)

September 19th, 2008 at 7:03 PM ^

2011 Starting Lineup:

QB: Tate Forcier

RB: Sam McGuffie

FB: Aligash Moonstar*

WR: Stonum

WR: McNeal

WR: Odoms

WR: IMADEITUP

TE: BECAUSETHISIS DUMB

chitownblue (not verified)

September 19th, 2008 at 8:37 PM ^

Dreisbach was the primary starter as a freshman (he got hurt, and Griese spelled him - horrendously), then was the starter for virtually all of his sophomore year, but got benched vs. OSU in favor of Griese. That's pretty close.