SBo

June 2nd, 2016 at 12:13 AM ^

Every team is limited to about four 'classic' games on BTN. They really have to switch it up. I'd be very happy if they would replay games from this season. I've seen BYU and Florida, but nothing else.

Mr. Yost

June 2nd, 2016 at 12:24 AM ^

It's fucking terrible. It's always this, UTL 1...every now and again they'll show the 2008 Wisconsin comeback or the ugly game at Northwestern.

Literally all of the content on BTN is trash nowadays...which frustrating because the SEC Network is so much better. Even the Pac-12 Network is better.

It's like everyone at BTN left in 2012 and never came back to work.

The network used to be cutting edge and awesome with their programming. I don't understand why they don't mimick ESPN with more shows, play new old games, come up with a fresh way to do the elite players/elite teams programming and expand on the Journey show.

There is literally no reason to ever watch BTN right now unless it's a live Michigan game. I'd cut it off if I wouldn't lose the rest of my sports package.

It's TV Land, but for B1G sports.

jdizzle

June 2nd, 2016 at 12:26 AM ^

I agree. If I wasn't so lazy I'd cancel it from March-August. I only get the sports package for B1G Network. But knowing me I'd cancel it and then (knowing Xfinity) I'd sit on hold for 3 hours while we play Hawaii in September v

SBo

June 2nd, 2016 at 12:29 AM ^

I look at tiebreaker and think, how do they not have more of these? It's not like the big ten is lacking in tradition. A ten year war film 30 for 30 style. Maybe an HBO style documentary of one of the minor programs, maybe Illinois and Lovie Smith (they did something similar with OSU, no?). They could just do a Harbaugh feature and have instant gold. Even more countdown lists like the NFL network would be an improvement.

jdizzle

June 2nd, 2016 at 12:30 AM ^

It's almost embarrassing the content they put out. They had the "scarlet and gray" training camp but it was like 4 episodes. With as much money the B1G Network is raking in youd hope for a better product. #ThanksDelaney

ijohnb

June 2nd, 2016 at 9:55 AM ^

up early (or late depending on how you look at it) with my one year old this morning.  They were showing Northwestern v. Nebraska 2014, a very non-descript non-overtime matchup between two very bad teams.  The listing called it "Classic College Football."  I did a facepalm and turned it to CNN.

Yo_Blue

June 2nd, 2016 at 7:53 AM ^

It could be worse - it could be ESPN which now shows NOTHING but the talking heads that are left over from the mass exodus.

At least you can't say ESPN doesn't cover the important issues with all the full extent of their resources.

Mr. Yost

June 2nd, 2016 at 10:32 AM ^

If they have a few talking heads that people watch, but people hate...so what.

Why not have a version of Highly Questionable, PTI or Around The Horn? Can you not talk about ANY national topics?

Why not mock 30 for 30? Tiebreakers and some of the other documentaries have been awesome.

Can they not do an E:60 type show? I saw Brock Mealer 100 times on ESPN and they constantly went back and updated the story for a follow up until the man got married.

Where is a live sportscenter type show? It doesn't need to run all morning or all night, but 30 minutes in the AM and 30 minutes in the PM is solid programming.

If you steal those things from ESPN and expand on The Journey, expand on the B1G Elite series or the Elite teams series. Have 1 on 1 sit down interviews with coaches and players like Real Sports on HBO. Do some actual reporting (kind of like the E:60 or Outside The Lines).

And then SHOW MORE GAMES!

drzoidburg

June 2nd, 2016 at 11:36 AM ^

unfortunately, that's all they're required to show and possibly all they're incentivized to show, since that alone will get them on all cable packages in NY and hey, that's all that matters right

at least until un-bundling becomes more common, then they'll try harder

ldevon1

June 2nd, 2016 at 7:12 AM ^

Maybe there are contractual issues with that content since it was shown on ABC back in the day. I don't think the B1G network is that bad. At least not bad enough to watch the SEC or Pac 12 network. Honestly in the summer months, I would rather be outside doing other things anyway. I live in Michigan, we only get 4 - 5 months of good weather. 

Danwillhor

June 2nd, 2016 at 12:39 AM ^

but come off like a well made Public Access show/program. It's the same stuff every day, week, year when not live events and the live events are so low-rent it's sadly comical. Am I off or do they still use the same decade old graphics for their overlays, intros and such? Also, is it Dave that does that topcringe, forced, throaty gutteral intro to games and shows? "Purdue and Rutgers begins RIIIIGHT HEEERE ON BTN!"

goblue16

June 2nd, 2016 at 3:17 AM ^

They have so many great games the can play but they just replay the same stuff over and over. I want Michigan Wisconsin 2002 or Minnesota 2003 Minnesota 2004 MSU 2004, 2005, 2007 Utah 2002 Washington 2002 PSU 2002 Purdue 2004 Illinois 2007 every game from 1997 1999 PSU I can go on for hours. Anyone know why they don't have more access to more games

WolverineHistorian

June 2nd, 2016 at 10:49 AM ^

Has everyone forgotten the days of ESPN Classic? Their personal favorite game to showcase was the Hail Mary against Colorado. Did you miss it last night? Well don't worry because they'll show it again in three hours, and then three times a day for the next five months.

When they weren't showing that one, they were replaying Rocket Ismail's returns against us or Sparty mugging Desmond on the two point conversion.

I agree BTN needs more variety but at least we get to be on the winning side for a change with old content.

WolverineHistorian

June 2nd, 2016 at 12:01 PM ^

*sigh* 

I'm really exposing my dorkness level here but around 2005-ish, I wrote down every single Michigan football game I remembered seeing replayed on Classic over the previous several years and our winning percentage was about 37%. 

Sure, they showed the 2000 Orange Bowl, the 1998 Rose Bowl and they were very generous to us during OSU week with plenty of wins over them, mostly from the 80's/early 90's, but the rest of the time was doom, and that was by far the majority.  Name any heartbreaking loss from the 80's, 90's and very early 2000's and they showed it.  And I'm being serious when I say that.  It's just that some losses were played much more than others, like Kordell Stewart or the index card game in South Bend. 

If someone completely unknowledgeable about the history of football watched ESPN Classic between 1998 and 2006, they would assume Michigan was the Wake Forest of college football.  It's why I started my YouTube account in '07, because I was sick of the constant replays of losses so I decided to upload every win I had even if it was 40 point win over Indiana from 30 years ago. 

LKLIII

June 2nd, 2016 at 12:17 PM ^

I don't know that it's necessarily anti-Michigan bias though.  It's entirely possible that some of these "classic" games are from the perspective of the other team.  When middling teams end up beating Michigan--even in a non-exciting game where Michigan just derps its way through a lackluster game--it has a "Man Bites Dog" quality--thus the term "classic" is hung on it.

Michigan beating Purdue 17-10 does not a classic make.  Purdue beating Michigan 17-10 might.....from the perspective of Purdue fans or Michigan haters.

 

WolverineHistorian

June 2nd, 2016 at 12:35 PM ^

I could understand that mentality if other schools had been featured as much as we were...but they weren't. Over 50 different Michigan games had been featured on Classic when I made that list. The school with the next most game features was Notre Dame with 18. That's quite a difference.

Why so Michigan heavy? I graciously emailed Classic a list of 30 different Notre Dame losses that I thought would be a great contribution to the network but I never got a reply. I guess I shouldn't be surprised. I know I'm being bitter and very silly but you just get burned out on seeing that many losses.

The ironic thing is, when Classic stopped showing old college football games, RichRod arrived and Michigan football immediately went to hell. So we were stuck with seeing horrible losses on a regular basis regardless.

LKLIII

June 2nd, 2016 at 11:52 AM ^

I'm sure it's a licensing issue, but starting in June/July, I'd love to see them do a "Season In Review" schedule that showed the 60 minute version of all the games every team played the prior year.  That'd be about 12-13 hours of programming (assuming bowl game), but of course once you hit Big Ten play, several of those games would kill two birds w/ one stone.  

You would schedule them for garbage time--mid day, late night, etc but w/ DVR technology, most die hard fans would record that stuff & watch it later. 

For prime-time this summer in June/July, you could do shows that focus on Big Ten olympic hopefuls as we ramp up for the 2016 games.  Then once August hits you counter-program the Olympics with wall-to-wall coverage of fall camp & previewing the 2016 football season.