schreibee

August 23rd, 2015 at 3:51 AM ^

Oh no man, Warren Moon picking us apart was definitely humiliating & depressing; but for REAL pain fast forward 1 year to the day when Charles White left the ball at the 1 yard line but was given a TD in what for all times shall be known as "The Phantom Touchdown"...
I was a freshman, we had a huge get together to watch the game. There was beer & spaghetti & beer & I don't remember what else except more beer (not that it would've made any difference, but legal drinking age was 18 then). They replayed the leap into the end zone about 20 times, with what for then must have been an incredible amount of camera angles. It was so indisputably clear White had fumbled. Keith Jackson and I guess probably Frank Broyles agreed and said it should be Michigan ball, score still 10-7 USC if memory serves...
I had the opportunity to meet Ronnie Lott about 20 years later, and I told him that loss had F*d up my life and created a feeling of injustice that had only JUST been somewhat alleviated by us winning the NC on Jan 1 1998. He smiled and said he had a perfect view of the play, and White scored... then said he was taking that story with him to the grave. BUT if they asked him up there for the truth he was gonna try a "No Comment" and see if that would work!

GoWings2008

August 23rd, 2015 at 7:14 AM ^

... As in getting to play a championship level game in an environment that wasn't so obviously slanted towards our opponent EVERY year? I always hated that the PAC 10 seemingly had their season last a week longer than the Big 10, thus getting less of a break between the end of the season and bowl season. Pile on top of that the accessibility of the Rose Bowl to that conferences fanbase. Seemed like any Big 10 win was an unlikely one. Rant over

Wave83

August 23rd, 2015 at 8:40 AM ^

This one just about killed me.  I was a junior in high school and I was despondent for about a week.  It taught me to learn to let it go.  But, God, this one hurt.

rob f

August 23rd, 2015 at 9:46 AM ^

for me, too.  1977 was the first year I had season tickets (this season will be my 39th) and Michigan had just finished of a 10-1 regular season by knocking off Rod Gerald, Ron Springs and Woody/OSU, who had come in to Michigan Stadium undefeated in the Big Ten. 

I was absolutely sure Bo was going to get that 1st Rose Bowl victory against Washington.  This Michigan Team was loaded with talent and I couldn't see us possibly losing to a 4-loss Huskie team, figuring that we had already laid our egg mid-season in the loss at Minnesota and still had an outside chance at the MNC as extra motivation.

Boom!  Thud!  Moon shot us down. 

This one was painful.

schreibee

August 23rd, 2015 at 10:15 AM ^

I remember being stunned by the ease with which Moon moved the ball in building up the huge lead. I've forgotten now whether to credit our great near-miss comeback to Bo finally opening up the offense by necessity, or them turtling with the big lead. A bit of both I'd imagine.
As I recounted above, in my memory the pain of this loss pales in comparison to the following Rose Bowl and The Phantom Touchdown. I'd add to that other games I recall with more disappointment:
Bo's 1st Rose, where he suffered the heart attack the night before; the loss to post-Plunkett Stanford, where they got nothing but FG but we never did anything on offense; and the Big 10's only win of the 70s, which we were cheated out of playing in by The Vote.
Really, there's a way of looking at the loss to Moon & UDub as leading directly to Bo realizing he absolutely had to have AC & a Wangler type QB. In that light I'm less regretful about that loss than any other of that decade...

schreibee

August 23rd, 2015 at 2:18 PM ^

Oh, I see you specified vs Pac 10/12 - my apologies. The game scoring over 30 but losing was vs Big 12.
My point remains the same, however. We scored 21 and won NC, so simply scoring points alone isn't the object.
I will say that your point about B1G fans under rating the Pac 10/12 teams is spot on. Our coaches haven't helped matters by continually trying to play the Rose like it's an extension of the 10 Year War.
Again with the exception of the game vs Texas where we couldn't stop Vince Young, so had no choice but open it up.

1974

August 23rd, 2015 at 9:21 AM ^

Those were rough years for the Big Ten. They were 1-9 in the Rose Bowl during that decade. The whole "Big Two Little Eight" routine (run, stop the run against largely inferior teams) was okay regionally but it fell apart when playing road games (including the Rose Bowl) against teams with equal or better talent.

Don

August 23rd, 2015 at 11:46 AM ^

This is a critical point that Michigan fans never want to admit—that PAC10 teams are typically loaded with great talent, especially USC. Every year going into the Rose Bowl i heard the same bluster from people in Ann Arbor who were deluding themselves with the same notion—that the PAC10 was a sissified finesse conference that would wilt under Michigan's relentless physicality.

Unfortunately, that delusion was still in existence under Lloyd Carr. Before the 2004 Rose Bowl, Jim Herrman said, "We have to get numbers to the ball,...Those are 'party' plays. There goes the ball. There's a party out there. Go to it. Don't be late. The receivers don't like to catch the ball and get hit."

USC's receivers were so intimidated that the Trojans were limited to 24/35 for 342 yards and four receiving TDs in a 28-14 victory that wasn't as close as the score implies.

You'd think that a 4-11 record in the Rose Bowl against the PAC since 1970 would persuade Michigan fans that the talent out there is substantial, but I guarantee that when Harbaugh gets us back in Pasadena, we'll hear the same damn thing from the fans—the PAC12 is a finesse conference and we just have to hit 'em in the mouth and they'll cry. Perhaps with Harbaugh in charge we can actually make that happen.

ak47

August 23rd, 2015 at 2:18 PM ^

Seattle Washignton is nearly an 18 hour drive from LA. We didn't lose that game because of travel.  Bo failed in the rose bowls, no real way around it.