16-team college football playoff format from 1990
January 12th, 2015 at 3:59 PM ^
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January 12th, 2015 at 4:03 PM ^
The fact that an 8-3 Michigan team would have been in the playoff is how you know that a 16 team playoff is competely unnescesary and stupid.
January 12th, 2015 at 4:00 PM ^
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January 12th, 2015 at 4:06 PM ^
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January 12th, 2015 at 5:28 PM ^
Right - but it was because no one was buying into Colorado and GT - I mean come on. yuk yuk
January 12th, 2015 at 4:01 PM ^
I think the rotating bowl system the way it is now seems like a good idea. But if/when they blow it up to 8 teams I really hope they have the quarterfinal games on campus. It's dumb enough already that some conference championship games are neutral site games, for a number of reasons.
January 12th, 2015 at 4:02 PM ^
Oh, those halcyon days when 5 B1G teams were in the top 15.
And yes, I know Nebraska was in the Big 8 at this point, but I'm counting them, dammit.
January 12th, 2015 at 4:20 PM ^
And Penn State was an independent; it joined the B1G for Football in 1994 - other sports joined earlier IIRC.
January 12th, 2015 at 4:02 PM ^
teams get invited to not only one bowl, but multiple bowls? If UM was in the mix, yeah I'd have a hard time saying I don't like this idea, but from the 50,000 foot viewpoint, I don't like this idea. The rich get richer. I like the 4 team playoff fine but if someone could show how an 8 team playoff would not result in teams getting invited to multiple bowl games, aside from the NCG, I'd be willing to listen. But that format up above....do not like.
January 12th, 2015 at 4:02 PM ^
Sixteen teams is too many. It'd cheapen the regular season too much.
January 12th, 2015 at 4:18 PM ^
Eight is the sweet spot.
Gets all the P5 champions in, plus 2 deserving at-larges, plus the highest rated non-P5 team (for political correctness reasons).
Perfection.
January 12th, 2015 at 4:28 PM ^
Dump the conference title games and I'd sign up. I want the Game to decide which Big Ten team gets in, not a game in an NFL dome in Indianapolis.
January 12th, 2015 at 5:28 PM ^
January 12th, 2015 at 5:43 PM ^
Why do conference champions have to be guaranteed a spot at all? Just pick the best teams.
January 12th, 2015 at 10:26 PM ^
January 12th, 2015 at 4:06 PM ^
That's a lot of games. At that time, was there even a conference championship game for any of the Power 5?
If you tried playing that bracket today:
November 29 - First round
December 6 - Quarter final
Jan 3 - Semi Final
Jan 12 - Final
January 12th, 2015 at 5:04 PM ^
I think the SEC was the first major football conference to do this actually, starting in 1992 when they added Arkansas and South Carolina. A few years after that, the Big XII adopted it (they were a somewhat different conference then, of course) and other conferences so on from there. Actually, I think the Big Ten might have been the last of the Power 5 to do it.
January 12th, 2015 at 5:25 PM ^
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January 12th, 2015 at 4:06 PM ^
The more teams a playoff has, the less likely the best team actually wins.
January 12th, 2015 at 4:23 PM ^
January 12th, 2015 at 10:59 PM ^
It's not that the best team on paper doesn't win 100% of the time, it's that the best team doesn't win 100% of the time. If two teams play 10 times, and Team A would would win 9 of the 10, they are the better team, but Team B wins in the tournament 10% of the time anyways..
January 13th, 2015 at 6:39 PM ^
wait, no it doesn't. shut up.
January 12th, 2015 at 4:07 PM ^
6 or 8 teams thats it. You will rarely have cases of teams with 2+ losses deserving a shot of the national title without diminishing the regular season. Thus, 8 has to be the upper limit.
January 12th, 2015 at 4:30 PM ^
They continually believe that their 2 loss teams would be National Champions each time..... Just ask any Sparty....
Arrrrrggggghhhhh! JH really needs to correct the universe, this is out of control.....
January 12th, 2015 at 4:47 PM ^
January 12th, 2015 at 4:14 PM ^
bracket, with the #1 and #2 teams getting a bye in the first round seems like the best system to me.
I think the rankings are way off a lot of the time and I think upset wins would be common under an expanded playoff system.
And the NC game needs to be played at the Rose Bowl. Because that's where Michigan plays in January according to 2nd grade me.
January 12th, 2015 at 4:22 PM ^
How exactly does an 8 team bracket work with #1 and 2 getting a first round bye. If teams 3-8 play the first round you are left with 5 teams. Should just accept 6 teams and give 1&2 a bye.
January 12th, 2015 at 4:42 PM ^
January 12th, 2015 at 4:42 PM ^
6 is the correct #.
/drinking early
January 12th, 2015 at 4:21 PM ^
January 12th, 2015 at 4:22 PM ^
I'm all for a 16 team playoff. There needs to be an objective way to a national championship to make this a valid competition. Any team should be able to win its way to the title. As long as the lesser conferences are in the same division as the major confernces, those teams need a clear, objective path to the title. So, 10 conference champions plus 6 wild cards. This will effectively put the top 10 in plus the small conference champions. Being top 5 effectively gets you a bye in the first round as you get to play one of the small conference champions. As long as there are 10 conferences, 16 sounds right to me. Forget the bowl games. Home games for the first 2-3 rounds.
Now if we get a split in the top division and just consider the power 5 conferences, then an 8 team playoff sounds better to me. Again, with the idea that an objective path to the title is essential. Let a committee decide your wild cards, but ultimately, winning a conference title is done on the field, so 5 auto qualifiers in this form too.
January 12th, 2015 at 4:23 PM ^
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January 12th, 2015 at 4:27 PM ^
Literally their only loss is to fucking BAYLOR, on the road.
January 12th, 2015 at 4:26 PM ^
1990 - the first year in college football you could spike the ball to stop the clock.
That was how Colorado, who already had a tie and a loss under their belt, beat Missouri when they spiked the ball on 4th down and goal and then scored their "game winning" touchdown on 5th and goal....and not a single fan, player or ref in the stadium realized it. And then they went on to win a share of the national title.
A playoff is nice. But 16 teams seems too many.
January 12th, 2015 at 5:11 PM ^
They didn't mention it on the video, but Charles Johnson was stopped on 5th down. At the end of that play, Mizzou fans and players are celebrating, but the ref runs up to the line and signals touchdown.
January 12th, 2015 at 4:25 PM ^
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January 12th, 2015 at 4:26 PM ^
January 12th, 2015 at 4:27 PM ^
Sure you'll have years where teams get in that aren't great, but #1 Alabama vs. #8 MSU would've been a damn good football game this year. Especially for a quarterfinal matchup.
The formula is so simple, I wish they'd move to it NEXT year.
8 teams.
5 conference champions + 3 at-large
*must be ranked in top 12 to qualify - if conference champion isn't in top 12, that spot becomes at-large*
Quarterfinals: played at home site of higher ranked (#1 - #4) teams
*losing teams from quarterfinals qualify for bowls*
Semifinals and Finals: exactly how they do it now
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This allows the power conference to all have a representative should they place in the top 12. It keeps conference races more exciting (thus more excitement in college football) because you have teams fighting for that automatic spot that may not be in the running for an at-large spot. So interest is actually higher.
Having quarterfinal games at the home of the higher seed is awesome for midwest schools. Could you imagine a #1 Michigan vs. #8 Florida in Ann Arbor on December 27th? It's ONE game, it's not like they're hosting a tournament. It's ONE game. If they were so concerned about weather, move it to Ford Field...that's still better (for Michigan) than playing it in the Georgia Dome or in Orlando.
If you lose that quarterfinal game, you would still get to go to a bowl like everyone else. (losers of semifinals and finals are done - those games are played at bowl sites)
This is the best way to ensure EVERY good team is in. I would much rather have 1-2 too many, than not enough spots. If a #1 seed has an easy quarterfinal game, so what?
So really, you're adding 4 more games to the entire season, and those games are at home stadiums. For more games, a top 12 rule and allowing quarterfinal losers to play in bowl games.
January 12th, 2015 at 4:30 PM ^
That's the type of format I was referencing up above. I like it. Lets do this.
January 12th, 2015 at 4:56 PM ^
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January 12th, 2015 at 5:36 PM ^
With 6 you can still the 5 power conference champs plus one at large team. The buys also place a premimum on having the best regular season. Assuming those first round games are played on campus I am fine with this.
January 12th, 2015 at 4:42 PM ^
Four teams is the right number. How many other times has there been six teams worthy of being in the national championship? It doesn't happen often.
January 12th, 2015 at 5:34 PM ^
that 8 would be doable assuming the first round games would be held at home field of the better seeded teams. The Power 5 conference champs are gauranteed a place plus 3 at large teams. This reduces the role of the committee and reduces most of the controversies.
January 12th, 2015 at 10:23 PM ^
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