Gucci Mane

April 30th, 2014 at 7:12 AM ^

Wow I didn't realize jones thought this way. I couldn't agree any more with him. I got respect for him from now on. This whole thing has pissed me off because I faced racism my whole life and no one gave a shit. But now all of a sudden everyone hates racism. The people saying sterling is so bad are the same people that were racist towards me. If we want real change we need to do the right thing ourselves and not worry about hurting others in the name of some great crusade.

SalvatoreQuattro

April 30th, 2014 at 8:17 PM ^

But the lack of awareness of poverty in white America is a concern. White America is not a block of suburbanites living in Elysium with no socioeconomic problems. If anything these only highlights how little both whites and blacks know about each other.  People THINK they know because they talk to members of a group or visit ana area. But they really don't.

I think all of America is in dire need of education.No one knows anythin about anyone outside of their social group.

SalvatoreQuattro

May 1st, 2014 at 3:35 PM ^

of racism. I was pointing out that even whites face serious socoeconomic issues. That implies tha the issue of black poverty is more complex than just racism. If even  millions of whites with all their so-called privileges are living in poverty than the issue surely must be more complex than racism. Class is clearly still an issue.

panthera leo fututio

May 3rd, 2014 at 9:08 PM ^

The problem with this point, though, is that Jones centered his argument on the really negative effects of spatially concentrated poverty, and the role that people like Sterling play in creating and perpetuating these concentrations. Concentrated poverty is really an issue of residential segregation, and it's far, far more of a problem for blacks and Latinos than it is for whites.

As of the 2007-2011 American Community Survey, 25.7% of blacks lived in poverty, compared to 11.6% of whites. But the effect of racial residential segregation amplifies this difference when it comes to the sort of neighborhoods that people live in. Looking at Census block groups in 2000, 44.8% of metro blacks lived in neighborhoods with >20% poverty concentrations, compared to 11.6% of whites. And this isn't just an effect of higher black poverty; 70.9% of poor blacks lived in high-poverty neighborhoods, compared to 36.9% of poor whites. One way of looking at this: a poor white resident is less likely to live in concentrated poverty than is an average black resident. (see http://intl-cjres.oxfordjournals.org/content/1/1/51/T3.expansion.html; may be paywalled)

We know that living in concentrated poverty is associated with all sorts of bad outcomes and that blacks (and to a slightly lesser extent Latinos) are far and away more likely to experience such living conditions, even after controlling for income. These conditions are largely the result of residential racial segregation. Bomani's point: propping up this segregation through illegal housing discrimination is a way more grievous act than is saying shitty things to your mistress, and people who ignored the former need to step off their soapboxes with respect to the latter.