Unofficial MGoBlog Coach Search DOOM Survey Results

Submitted by UMAmaizinBlue on January 9th, 2011 at 6:05 PM

Well, here we are: Day 5 of the national Coaching Search and nary a coach in site. Emotions have run high, beer and liquor supplies have run low, and livers have become cirrhosised (no, that’s not a real word, but whatever). However, I feel that as a fanbase we have been fairly cool, calm, and collect…okay, I’m just kidding. We’ve been acting like starving hyenas snapping at any and every scrap of information that comes our way like it’s a piece of meat.

Regardless, we all have opinions and we need to respect those opinions, even if we don’t necessarily support or agree with them. We are all in this tight spot together as fans, and while we’re all hoping that our own “Coach X” gets hired, we all need to understand something: we are all Michigan fans, and we NEED to support this team, this program, especially whomever the new coach happens to be [yes, even if it’s Brady Hoke].


Now, since everyone and their grandma’s gardener has an opinion about how Brandon is doing with this Coach Search or whatever (and it was requested by bklein09), I conducted a quick survey to gauge the feelings and opinions of the average MGoBlogger (which, I’m sure we’ll all agree, is FAR from average). Please to be enjoying the results!

[NOTE: There were a total of 263 responses for this survey, and no demographics were taken. Also, the chance that this survey is accurately representative of…ANYHTING are slimmer than our chances of getting Jim Harbaugh. Too soon?]

Question 1: Who is your current top coaching candidate for the University of Michigan?


Now it appears that the majority of the board wants Chuckie to be our coach, but everybody’s favorite Horned Frog, Gary Patterson is a not-too-distant second place. Les Miles’ sleaziness and potential propensity for rapin’ e’erbody out here may have held him back to a respectable (?) third. I will admit that I regret not being able to represent more potential coordinator candidates, but I didn’t want this pie to look like it was being shared at the Duggar’s house…

Anyway, there was an "Other" category and write-ins were welcome. A few weren't very realistic (Jim Harbaugh, Lloyd Carr), and a few were some guy named Rich Rodrigues. Others included Bo Pelini, Bo Schembechler (frowny face) and Mayor McCheese (that was me). That's about it. Take it FWIW.

Question 2: With Harbaugh off the board, should DB have fired RR?

Okay, I’m not gonna lie: I was shocked to see that 50% of MGoBloggers were opposed to firing RR with Harbaugh off the board, especially given the possibilities we may or may not probably have (or don’t) with LesGrudenHoke. However, it seems that the vast majority of people will be extremely pissed about the RR firing should we fail to land a “Big Name” coach, and since the definition of “Big Name” differs from person to person, this means jack-squat. Regardless, it appears that the majority of folks had this as their short list before the firing [in no particular order]:

1) Jim Harbaugh

2) RichRod with a new DC

Ladies and gentlemen, this is just another confirmation that life isn’t fair. Still, a quarter of you were not pleased at all with RR and wanted him gone no matter what, and if I’m correct in remembering, that number decreased from the December survey posted in December (redundant). However, that could be due to the meteoric crater known as the Coach Search. #takeitwithagrainofsalt

Question 3: Before the Coach Search, were you in favor of a RR firing?

Well, after seeing Q2, these results shouldn’t be too shocking. They’re pretty self-explanatory, and it’s interesting to note the changes from the almost 33/33/33 split seen in the December survey. It looks like those “Undecided” folks shifted camps, mostly to the “No” side of the fence. Again, Coach Search is a powerful force. Moving on!

Question 4: When should RR have been fired?


I’ll just state the obvious: NOBODY thought that RR should have been fired later than it was done by Brandon. Also, it should be noted that about 83% of bloggers feel that they would have chosen a different time to fire RR than Brandon. Maybe we should all band together and fill out a collective application when the next AD is being hired. As seen in the last 2 questions, people were not ready to let RR go (either at all or only if we couldn’t get JH), so the fact that 46% of respondents thought that RR shouldn’t have been fired this year is no shocker.

There is also a strong contingency that thought RR should have been fired after the regular season, which is understandable given the current Coach Search, if not wholly influenced by hindsight. Still, it would be interesting to see how things would be now had we fired RR after the OSU game and hired a new guy in December. Where’s that damn crystal ball?

Question 5: Should DB have fired RR without a replacement lined up?

Obvious results are obvious. Staring at them longer won’t make them change, just like how dwelling on the “what-if’s” and the “what-could-have-been’s” won’t change the spot we’re in (sorry, not trying to be preachy; I also have to tell myself this from time to time just to keep sane). Let's just agree to disagree with DB and keep chugging along.


Question 6: If you had known about the current Coach Search beforehand, would your opinion about firing RR have changed?

Okay, so the questions have gotten longer and the results have gotten..well, predictable. Still a third of the people would have preferred RR being fired despite the Coach Search, and about 44% of people would have still preferred to keep RR as the coach despite the Coach Search (very similar to 46% of people who weren’t in favor of a RR firing).

The interesting part is that the Coach Search seems to have swayed people more into the “Don’t Fire RR” camp from the “Fire” camp. Those that were Undecided before the DOOM-Kitty-Coaching-Apocalypse seem to have been pissed off so much (or saddened beyond belief) by recent events that they would have preferred to have avoided the whole thing altogether. Oh, and there was actually ONE person who changed their opinion from “Don’t Fire” to “Fire”, so if you see that person, kindly ask them “What’s your DEAL?!”

[NOTE: 8% of you need to get an opinion, seriously. These are scary times in which to be complacent.]

Question 7: How do you feel about DB's handling of the current Coach Search?

Being a GSI, I get this kind of question answered about me all the times, so I figured it was Dave Brandon’s turn. You’re all smart and I don’t need to spell it out for you, but then again, that would make for a boring diary. Sadly[?], only 20% of MGoFans approve of DB’s handling of the Coaching Circus, whereas more than double of you feel that DB is not handling this whole situation in a favorable manner. Seeing that, I wish I would have asked a short answer question as to what you would have done to improve the situation (I keed, I keed!). Oh, and we have more than a third of you who are spineless and have no opinion (I’m taking “Neutral” to mean “No Opinion”, “Not Sure” and/or “Undecided”). Seriously, these are the times where it’s okay to have an opinion.

[Okay, maybe I’m being too harsh on our Swiss fans here. I guess I could see how “Neutral” could also mean “Wait and See” or “I Couldn’t Have Done A Better Job So I’ll STFU”. My apologies to our Neutral friends. If I’ve offended you, there will be an application you can fill out for reparations in the form of one of my MGoPoints.]

Question 8: Assuming we return all the players we would have had RR not been fired (not counting recruits), what do you anticipate our win total being in 2011?

And now we come to the longest and obligatory question based solely on gut feelings, maize-and-blue tinted glasses and the reading of entrails: projected win totals for next year. I tried my best to break the wins into fair categories. I personally feel that this team has a 100% chance of being .500 at least, so I decided to give a wider range to the lower half of possible win totals. After we got past the “bowl-eligible” threshold, I decided to go by two wins, just to give a little wiggle room. I also felt that we should consider a bowl game since, given all too real and recent events, those count…BIG! I personally don’t like to guess an actual number until AT LEAST 6 months before kickoff (or we have a coach…whichever comes first, I guess), so I also included the “Won’t Guess” option for those like me.

A significant amount of you (14%) prefer not to guess just yet, making you the most rational people in the Michigan fanbase (which is like being the least insane person in a mental ward, so…yea). The majority of you (54%) said that you expect 8-9 wins next year, which to me says that we’re expecting improvement but we aren’t ready to make that leap into OMGBIGTENCHAMPIONS win totals just yet (either that, or we’re assuming that a coachless team run by a junior Denard can get ‘er done, which would be interesting to see). Interestingly, 24% of you felt that the team would either not improve, or worsen in wins next year. I would be willing to bet money that the majority of that faction says 7 wins, but pessimism can be contagious.

Just to clarify on this question, people were obviously/hopefully assuming that everyone who was expected to return actually does return (Martin, Roundtree, Smith, Denard, Roh, Koger, GERG…wait, scratch that!), and there were no assumptions on recruits, so this data is about as useful as a screen door on a submarine (which, ironically, we all probably feel like we’re riding right about now). Still, it was fun to guess, and we need to show our Magic 8 Ball some love from time to time.


Well, there you have it folks. I hope you enjoyed taking the survey and viewing these results as much as I had making it and writing this Diary (it was awesome to have a weekend without homework, but that won't last long). Please don't take these results seriously because: a) it was made by me, b) it was made on the interwebz, and c) Michigan football fans took it, and we're more unstable than Sybil.

Enjoy the rest of your weekend, try not to break your F5 button, and here's to a potential coach being announced in the coming week [PLEASE GOD!]. Go Blue!



January 9th, 2011 at 6:31 PM ^

[NOTE: There were a total of 263 responses for this survey, and no demographics were taken. Also, the chance that this survey is accurately representative of…ANYHTING are slimmer than our chances of getting Jim Harbaugh. Too soon?]


January 9th, 2011 at 6:39 PM ^

And visually pleasing.  I do have to take issue with Mayor McCheese as HC.  He had several years and was never able to successfully scheme to stop the Hamburgler.  He is a non-starter for me unless he bring Ronald as DC.


January 9th, 2011 at 7:49 PM ^

If we're going in that direction, I don't see how it isn't the King. His stealthiness has to come in handy, especially on the recruiting trail: if he can break into McDonald's headquarters and escape, is there really a home in the country where he can't have an impact, especially if he's providing random sandwiches upon his arrival? (Well, he'd probably have to drop that last part, it's probably an NCAA violation.)

Plus he's already accustomed to dealing with fame: in addition to the high visibility, he's got a couple of video games about his efforts, so he's got an in with the gaming crowd. (Granted, the games are terrible, but hey, any press is good press, right?)


January 9th, 2011 at 9:48 PM ^

the King was an amazing player and would bring a high profile to A2, but I'm against this hire.  His shady recruiting practices, like standing over recruits while they sleep until they commit, beg NCAA sanctions. 

The Mayor comes with a built-in staff (Ronald, Grimmace, Fry Guys, etc.) and could quickly build stability.  If he is unwilling to come, maybe we could pry loose Colonel Sanders.  He has the experience to turn the program around.


January 9th, 2011 at 7:02 PM ^

Interesting poll.  I suspect the opinions will shift radically the minute DB names a head coach (my money says within 2-3 days).

Personally, I am in the bizarre camp of wanting Rich Rod to stay before the firing and agreeing with Brandon's decision to fire him after the fact. 

I believe DB will make the right hire.  As long as Denard is back, I will be ok with the change.


January 9th, 2011 at 7:47 PM ^

Best post I've seen in weeks.  I appreciate all of your hard work.  I think a lot of people will be surprised to see the large group that did not want Rodriguez fired.  As many (including me) mentioned over the past few weeks, the Rodriguez supporters were generally silent.  Maybe that's our fault for not being more vocal and possibly pushing this problem out another year . . .

Also, for what its worth (nothing), I'm predicting 6 wins next year.  I just don't see the new coach being able to maximize Denard's abilities, if he stays (please don't leave, Denard!).  I'm going to try to be ultra-conservative in my expectations so I don't get crushed again next year.


January 10th, 2011 at 3:15 AM ^

I agree, great post!

RR may have been a bit too slow in recognizing on how fast the defense would drop off. He needed be judged after the 2012 season.  I wish he would have hired a better DC and let that coach take over the defense.  The defense in 2011 may not have been good enough to prevent another 7-5 or perhaps 8-4 record. Even if RR got another year we would be in the same situation we are now!  However, everything would have gelled in 2012 and we would be looking at a strong 9 or 10 win season and perhaps a b10 title?

I just hope we get a good coach who will keep the spread offense!  My worry is pressing the restart button on offense and rebuilding to a pro set offense! That may take several years.


January 10th, 2011 at 9:33 AM ^

Given the fact that MgoBlog has been vocally and aggressively proRR for years, I am not at all surprised to see that a large group of MgoBloggers did not want to see RR fired.

Concerning the supposed silence of Rodriguez supporters.... Are you gaslighting me?


January 10th, 2011 at 10:55 AM ^

This conversation has already been hashed and re-hashed, but I think the numbers show that, over the last 5 weeks, the outspoken "majority" on the coaching change issue has been the fire Rodriguez crowd.  Maybe the site has been pro-Rodriguez historically but the posts prior to last week have been very anti-Rodriguez.  In other words, the voice of the Rodriguez supporters was quiet (probably understandably so since it was getting more and more difficult to be a supporter).


January 9th, 2011 at 8:18 PM ^

To see I am in the majority.  I too wanted either Jimmy or status quo with new DC.  Here is the sad part, as of right this moment, I can't imagine any coach that is going to make me feel any better any time soon.  Things can only get worse... coach I really don't like, more losses in the recruiting area, Denard transfers (death). I really don't see any upside at this moment.

Best case is I don't want to kill myself between now and early September.  I hope I am suprised but I doubt it.


January 9th, 2011 at 9:52 PM ^

Great work. I was really wanting to do something similar, but don't know how to make pollz on the interwebz.

My guess is that this sample (Mgoblog users) is probably biased in the pro-RR direction compared to the general population of M fans. We're more educated regarding the context of the team (e.g., decimated defense, roster full of extremely young and inexperienced players) and most casual fans just see our W-L record and listen to the drivel (almost exclusively anti-RR) coming from the MSM. Many mgobloggers still wanted Rich gone, but at least could cite non-superficial reasons.

My fear is that DB was too heavily influenced by the idea that most fans want RR gone and felt he needed to make a move to appease and excite the masses. My concern is that DB also didn't attend enough to the context of the situation: that we were about to return most starters and finally have a decent combination of age/experience/talent/experience in the system and also bring in a strong recruiting class. With a new DC, this could have led to competing for B1G championship next year. Now we're in jeopardy of losing recruits and players and starting to rebuild again unless we can get a big name coach soothe the players and recruits. .


January 9th, 2011 at 9:45 PM ^

Because I believe he was the best choice. Not until after the bowl game did I learn that JH would be quite a good candidate, given his recruiting potential, but still swayed only to apathy between the two choices.

RR would have won 9-10 games next year, no doubt. He would have had a recruiting class ranked somewhere around 15th, little doubt.

I understand that 15-22 is ugly...

Four major violations are ugly...

The defense was ugly...

I think DB understood all of this. He understood what we understand, that RR gives us the best chance to win. As the OP and first response indicate, this is not readily perceivable. DB caved to public pressure instead of sticking to the best course. For that I consider him a coward.


January 9th, 2011 at 9:54 PM ^

you have to consider the possibility that RR wanted out, with the majority of the fan base against him. The constant speculation on if he was going to ge fired or not and ruining his chancec of getting the recruits he wanted, he may of wanted out.

just a thought**


January 9th, 2011 at 9:52 PM ^

I am solidly in the RR camp and will root for his succes in the future.  However, I understand his firing.  I don't understand looking for a new HC that doesn't run some version of the spread...

Blue Balls

January 9th, 2011 at 11:39 PM ^

64% of the people polled said no(I want to believe DB would have voted this way).   Will our new coach come from Auburn or Oregon?  Not saying-just saying maybe.  


January 10th, 2011 at 9:56 AM ^

Just wanted to say - be careful comparing these results to the December survey. It's two different populations (December survey was randomly-selected voters, self-identified Michigan fans v. self-selected MGoBlog users now). You may not be seeing shifts in opinion as much as you are differences in populations.

Edit: And not to be negative, great post! Thanks for doing this.