Turnover Analysis - Part 1: Is It All Just Luck?

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A comprehensive analysis of turnovers is a bit too much to cover all at once. So, I’ve decided to break it up into a few parts. Part 1: Are Turnovers Just A Matter of Luck?

Some folks claim that turnovers are primarily a matter of luck and that teams have little or no control over turnover margin (TOM). Phil Steele is one of the most notable advocates that turnovers are primarily luck. Each year, Steele includes his “Turnovers = Turnaround” article in his College Football Preview. A couple of quotes:

“Teams that benefitted from double-digit turnovers the previous year rarely get a repeat of that good fortune.”

“Let’s take a look at some teams who had terrible luck (lots of turnovers) in one year and then drastically improved over the next year without those turnovers.”

In Part 2 of the Turnover Analysis, I’ll look at Steele’s theory about turnovers being a cause of turnarounds. But, for now, let’s just look at whether turnovers are primarily luck.

Let’s first define the term: “Luck is a belief in good or bad fortune in life caused by chance which happens beyond a person's control.” As applied to turnovers, this would mean they simply happen at random (i.e. chance) and a football team has no control over TOM.

Executive Summary: The gory details are below but for those in need of instant gratification here is the synopsis:

Disclaimer: There is obviously an element of luck and an element of skill involved in the sport of football. As you’ll see, the analysis is to determine the “primary” cause of turnovers. It is not attempting to conclude that turnovers are completely luck or completely skill.

Basis: All 120 FBS teams over the last 10 years (1999 through 2008); Total TOM Per Year over the last 10 years. Bowl games excluded before 2002.

LUCK IS primarily responsible for the TOM of approximately 83% of teams (100 teams).

TEAM PERFORMANCE IS primarily responsible for the TOM of approximately 17% of teams (20 teams). LUCK IS NOT primarily responsible for TOM for the teams.

Team performance could be offense (+/- turnovers lost) or defense (+/- turnovers gained).

Very good teams (14 teams or approximately 12%) influence TOM by increasing the TOM

Very poor teams (6 teams or approximately 5%) influence TOM by decreasing the TOM.

These percentages are based on the detailed analysis below but are (obviously) not exact

Here is a table of the very good teams and very poor teams with their Average TOM per year over the last 10 years and their Average WLM (Win/Loss Margin) over the same 10 years. Similar to TOM, the win/loss margin is merely games won minus games lost. For example, a team that is 7-5 has a WLM of +2 and a team that is 5-7 has a WLM of -2. I decided to use WLM because it provides data that is in the same format as TOM (i.e. net numbers).

Table Showing Very Good and Very Poor Teams in the FBS

 

 

Average TOM/Yr and Average WLM/Yr: 10 Years (1999 through 2008)

 

 

 

TOM

WLM

 

 

TOM

WLM

Team

CONF

AVG

AVG

Team

CONF

AVG

AVG

USC

PAC10

10.2

7.1

Florida Intl

SunBelt

-5.1

-5.4

Oklahoma

Big12

8.1

8.4

Utah St

WAC

-5.4

-5.0

West Virginia

BigEast

7.8

3.8

Baylor

Big12

-5.8

-4.7

Virginia Tech

ACC

7.7

7.1

Idaho

WAC

-7.9

-5.6

TCU

MW

7.4

6.0

SMU

CUSA

-8.4

-5.5

Texas

Big12

7.3

8.4

Army

Army

-10.1

-7.0

Florida

SEC

6.1

6.4

Utah

MW

5.2

4.6

Boise St

WAC

4.9

8.5

Boston College

ACC

4.7

4.8

Georgia

SEC

4.7

6.7

Michigan

Big10

4.5

4.7

Florida State

ACC

4.2

5.1

Oregon

PAC10

4.1

4.6

And, yes, that does say that USC has averaged over +10 TOM Per Year for the last 10 years (that includes one year at -19 TOM, one year at +21, and six years with double digit positive TOM).

The Gory Details – TOM Simulation

To determine if TOM was primarily due to luck, I designed a simulation to provide TOM data that was based entirely on luck. The simulation is based on rolling 2 dice. Rolling dice involves random, independent events and the results are based purely on luck. Instead of adding the numbers on the two dice (craps), the numbers are subtracted.

One die is red for TO Lost and one is green for TO Gained. Obviously, TOM = Green – Red. Thus, the maximum TOM would be +/- 5 per game which is very consistent with actual data. Also, the distribution curve of turnovers is bell shaped with the most likely value being 0 (17% Chance) and least likely being 5 (3% Chance for + and 3% chance for -). See the table below for a comparison of the simulation distribution curve versus the theoretical curve.

Actually rolling the dice enough time to get statistically meaningful data would have taken way too long and would be prone to error. So, I used an EXCEL spreadsheet to accomplish the same results. EXCEL has formulas to generate random numbers within a range. This actually works better than the dice because I could set the lower range at -0- (the fewest possible turnovers a team could experience in a game) and the higher range at +5 (the most possible turnovers a team would experience in a game).

 I created a formula to subtract one random number from a second random number which results in TOM per game. I then created a table with 12 columns (one for each game in a year) and 1200 rows (120 FBS teams over 10 years). Each time the F9 key is pressed, the random numbers and TOM are recalculated for all 120 teams over 10 years (14,400 games). I used 10 trials and took the composite of all the trials (144,000 games). The composite is based on a count of the number times each TOM occurs.

Here is a table showing all possible TOM for a game, the % that occurred in the simulation, and the theoretical % that should occur. This demonstrates the validity of the simulation.

TOM

SIM%

THRY%

5

2.7%

2.8%

4

5.6%

5.6%

3

8.3%

8.3%

2

11.0%

11.1%

1

13.8%

13.9%

0

16.7%

16.7%

(1)

14.0%

13.9%

(2)

11.1%

11.1%

(3)

8.5%

8.3%

(4)

5.5%

5.6%

(5)

2.8%

2.8%

I’ve worked with simulations involving dice before and expected some variation but, I would have to say, these results shocked me.

Simulation Results: Average for 10 Trials

120 Teams: 10 Years, 12 Games Per Year

TOM/YR

%

NO.

9+

0.1%

0

8 to 8.99

0.1%

0

7 to 7.99

0.1%

0

6 to 6.99

0.3%

0

5 to 5.99

1.5%

2

4 to 4.99

4.3%

5

3 to 3.99

7.2%

9

2 to 2.99

8.5%

10

1 to 1.99

13.7%

17

0 to .99

12.9%

16

0

1.4%

2

0 to -.99

15.2%

18

-1 to -1.99

12.5%

15

-2 to -2.99

10.0%

12

-3 to -3.99

5.7%

7

-4 to -4.99

3.5%

4

-5 to -5.99

2.3%

3

-6 to -6.99

0.3%

0

-7 to -7.99

0.1%

0

-8 to -8.99

0.2%

0

-9+

0.1%

0

 

100.0%

120

Based on these simulation results, turnovers could be explained as primarily luck even with several teams experiencing up to +/- 9 Average TOM/Year over 10 years. Note that in the simulation, approximately 90% of all FBS team’s average between approximately +/- 4 turnovers over 10 years. The detailed simulation data also shows that, by just luck, many teams could experience double-digit turnovers in multiple years.

I also ran the simulation for a span of 100 years for each team. As expected the variation was reduced significantly. Approximately 80% of all teams had an average TOM/YR of less than +/- 1.0 and 100% had an average TOM/YR of less than +/- 2.0.

Here are several examples of actual data from the simulation (all examples are from the 10 year simulation).

Example 1: Actual Data from the Simulation (Large Negative Average TOM/YR)

Game-->

1

2

3

4

5

6

7

8

9

10

11

12

TOM

AVG

Year 1

(2)

3

(4)

(1)

(1)

(4)

(1)

(3)

(4)

(4)

(2)

3

(20.0)

 

2

(2)

3

(1)

(4)

0

1

(2)

(1)

(3)

(2)

0

(2)

(13.0)

 

3

4

(2)

(2)

(3)

2

1

0

(2)

(2)

0

(4)

(1)

(9.0)

 

4

2

0

0

(1)

(4)

3

(2)

(3)

2

3

2

3

5.0

 

5

(3)

(2)

(4)

0

(1)

1

0

3

5

(3)

4

(1)

(1.0)

 

6

(1)

2

(2)

(1)

4

(1)

0

(2)

(4)

4

3

(2)

0.0

 

7

2

(3)

0

(3)

(2)

3

(1)

0

(3)

(4)

0

0

(11.0)

 

8

0

2

2

(1)

(4)

(3)

5

(4)

(5)

(4)

(2)

(3)

(17.0)

 

9

1

(3)

5

1

(3)

3

(1)

(1)

(2)

(3)

(4)

(2)

(9.0)

 

10

(1)

0

0

1

1

3

(5)

0

(4)

1

(3)

0

(7.0)

(8.2)

 

Example 2: Actual Data from the Simulation (Large Positive Average TOM/YR)

Game-->

1

2

3

4

5

6

7

8

9

10

11

12

TOM

AVG

Year 1

1

5

4

(2)

(2)

2

0

0

(2)

0

0

1

7.0

 

2

(1)

2

1

0

(1)

3

(4)

4

4

(2)

(2)

0

4.0

 

3

4

2

3

2

3

1

(3)

1

(1)

(1)

(5)

1

7.0

 

4

2

3

4

(2)

(4)

3

(1)

(4)

1

(4)

0

1

(1.0)

 

5

5

1

3

3

2

4

0

(1)

(1)

(1)

(3)

2

14.0

 

6

0

5

3

3

(1)

(3)

(3)

0

(1)

3

2

0

8.0

 

7

2

(1)

0

0

(1)

3

2

2

4

(1)

0

4

14.0

 

8

0

5

3

1

(2)

(1)

(2)

0

(2)

(2)

2

1

3.0

 

9

0

3

2

(2)

2

1

0

0

5

(1)

1

3

14.0

 

10

3

5

1

4

1

2

0

3

2

0

1

1

23.0

9.3

 

Example 3: Actual Data from the Simulation (Average TOM/YR Approximately -0-)

Game-->

1

2

3

4

5

6

7

8

9

10

11

12

TOM

AVG

Year 1

1

2

0

4

(5)

(2)

3

0

0

(5)

(4)

0

(6.0)

 

2

(1)

0

1

1

0

4

(2)

(1)

2

0

(2)

3

5.0

 

3

2

(4)

0

4

(3)

0

5

(1)

1

(3)

(1)

1

1.0

 

4

5

(1)

5

(3)

0

0

(3)

4

(2)

(5)

(3)

0

(3.0)

 

5

(2)

4

0

0

(2)

3

0

0

(2)

3

1

1

6.0

 

6

(3)

(2)

(3)

0

(1)

4

(3)

4

(3)

0

0

2

(5.0)

 

7

1

(3)

(1)

0

(2)

1

3

(2)

4

(1)

(1)

0

(1.0)

 

8

(4)

(3)

(1)

1

1

3

2

(5)

3

5

0

(3)

(1.0)

 

9

3

3

(1)

(4)

1

1

3

(1)

1

2

4

2

14.0

 

10

(1)

(2)

1

(3)

0

0

(2)

0

5

0

2

(3)

(3.0)

0.7

 

The Gory Details – Actual Data

So, what does the actual data show? I looked at all FBS teams from 1999 to 2008. I tracked turnover margin (TOM) and win/loss margin (WLM).

Even though the simulation indicates a relatively large variation would be expected in TOM even if only luck is involved, a significant number of teams fall outside of the expected variation. Here is a table showing all the teams with average TOM per year greater than 4.0 (sorted by TOM).

Table Showing All Teams With Average TOM/Year Greater Than 4.0 (Sorted by TOM)

 

Team

CONF

 

Avg

1999

2000

2001

2002

2003

2004

2005

2006

2007

2008

USC

PAC10

TOM

10.2

14

(19)

16

18

20

19

21

4

2

7

 

 

WLM

7.1

0

(2)

0

9

11

13

11

9

9

11

Oklahoma

Big12

TOM

8.1

(4)

6

10

19

17

4

(1)

(1)

8

23

 

 

WLM

8.4

3

12

8

10

10

11

4

8

8

10

West Virginia

BigEast

TOM

7.8

(5)

7

(8)

19

16

3

14

7

13

12

 

 

WLM

3.8

(3)

1

(5)

5

3

4

10

9

9

5

Virginia Tech

ACC

TOM

7.7

3

6

10

8

(1)

13

9

4

11

14

 

 

WLM

7.1

11

9

5

6

3

7

9

7

8

6

TCU

MW

TOM

7.4

4

10

3

15

4

4

21

7

(7)

13

 

 

WLM

6.0

3

9

1

8

9

(1)

10

9

3

9

Texas

Big12

TOM

7.3

11

8

11

17

2

5

7

9

1

2

 

 

WLM

8.4

5

7

8

9

7

10

13

7

7

11

Wake Forest

ACC

TOM

6.3

6

(9)

(3)

18

7

7

(2)

13

9

17

 

 

WLM

0.4

1

(7)

1

1

(2)

(3)

(3)

8

5

3

Florida

SEC

TOM

6.1

(6)

19

(4)

(9)

7

4

18

5

5

22

 

 

WLM

6.4

6

8

7

3

3

2

6

12

5

12

S. Mississippi

CUSA

TOM

5.6

10

0

7

(3)

5

5

14

6

(1)

13

 

 

WLM

2.5

5

3

1

1

5

2

2

4

1

1

W. Kentucky

SunBelt

TOM

5.3

 

 

 

17

10

8

3

(4)

2

1

 

 

WLM

2.3

 

 

 

9

5

6

1

1

2

(8)

Toledo

MAC

TOM

5.2

8

22

3

7

11

(2)

5

(3)

1

0

 

 

WLM

2.6

1

9

7

4

4

5

6

(2)

(2)

(6)

Utah

MW

TOM

5.2

8

(11)

1

(1)

9

15

(1)

8

11

13

 

 

WLM

4.6

5

(3)

3

(1)

8

12

2

3

5

12

Air Force

MW

TOM

5.1

(4)

7

8

9

6

1

(7)

8

10

13

 

 

WLM

1.1

1

5

0

3

2

(1)

(3)

(4)

5

3

Boise St

WAC

TOM

4.9

10

8

(8)

8

10

10

(8)

11

1

7

 

 

WLM

8.5

5

7

4

11

12

10

5

13

7

11

Boston College

ACC

TOM

4.7

2

11

3

8

3

0

(4)

15

6

3

 

 

WLM

4.8

5

1

3

5

3

6

6

7

8

4

Georgia

SEC

TOM

4.7

8

(1)

1

8

11

(2)

11

(1)

9

3

 

 

WLM

6.7

3

3

5

12

8

8

7

5

9

7

Alabama

SEC

TOM

4.7

4

(8)

4

15

1

6

8

7

4

6

 

 

WLM

2.3

8

(5)

1

7

(5)

0

7

(1)

1

10

Michigan

Big10

TOM

4.5

10

11

(4)

9

2

6

5

14

2

(10)

 

 

WLM

4.7

7

5

5

7

7

6

2

9

5

(6)

Texas A&M

Big12

TOM

4.5

4

6

3

2

(11)

9

6

9

7

10

 

 

WLM

1.0

5

3

3

0

(4)

2

(1)

5

1

(4)

Florida State

ACC

TOM

4.2

8

10

4

11

8

7

(4)

(8)

6

0

 

 

WLM

5.1

11

10

3

4

7

6

3

1

1

5

Oregon

PAC10

TOM

4.1

9

3

14

5

(5)

(2)

13

(10)

9

5

 

 

WLM

4.6

6

7

9

1

3

(1)

8

1

5

7

 This table includes 21 teams. However, as the simulation indicates, approximately 7 teams should have TOM greater than 4 if luck is primarily responsible. So, 7 of these teams needed to be eliminated. I decided to use low WLM as the criteria to eliminate teams. Teams that are eliminated and their WLM are: Wake Forest (0.4), Texas A&M (1.00), Air Force (1.1), Alabama (2.3), Western Kentucky (2.3), Toledo (2.6), and S. Mississippi (2.5). That leaves the 14 teams in the summary table included above in the Executive Summary.

Here is a table showing all the teams with average TOM per year less than negative 4.0 (sorted by TOM).

Table Showing All Teams With Average TOM/Year Less Than Negative 4.0 (Sorted by TOM)

Team

CONF

 

Avg

1999

2000

2001

2002

2003

2004

2005

2006

2007

2008

Kent State

MAC

TOM

(4.2)

(11)

(2)

3

(16)

7

(1)

(11)

3

(11)

(3)

 

 

WLM

(4.5)

(7)

(9)

(1)

(6)

(2)

(1)

(9)

0

(6)

(4)

Wyoming

MW

TOM

(4.6)

2

(9)

(3)

(2)

10

6

(12)

(4)

(12)

(22)

 

 

WLM

(3.2)

3

(9)

(7)

(8)

(4)

2

(3)

0

(2)

(4)

Illinois

Big10

TOM

(5.0)

13

(2)

5

(8)

(18)

(6)

(11)

(15)

(2)

(6)

 

 

WLM

(1.8)

3

(1)

9

(2)

(10)

(5)

(7)

(8)

5

(2)

Florida Intl

SunBelt

TOM

(5.1)

 

 

 

2

(5)

(6)

(8)

(9)

(14)

4

 

 

WLM

(5.4)

 

 

 

(1)

(8)

(4)

(1)

(12)

(10)

(2)

Utah St

WAC

TOM

(5.4)

(11)

(2)

(13)

(11)

(4)

(6)

(2)

(6)

2

(1)

 

 

WLM

(5.0)

(3)

(1)

(3)

(3)

(6)

(5)

(5)

(10)

(8)

(6)

Rutgers

BigEast

TOM

(5.7)

(5)

(7)

(22)

(13)

(6)

(7)

(3)

11

(6)

1

 

 

WLM

(1.9)

(9)

(5)

(7)

(10)

(2)

(3)

2

9

3

3

Baylor

Big12

TOM

(5.8)

(5)

(9)

(3)

(17)

(5)

(15)

5

(7)

(18)

16

 

 

WLM

(4.7)

(9)

(1)

(5)

(6)

(6)

(5)

(1)

(4)

(6)

(4)

Washington St

PAC10

TOM

(5.8)

(1)

(3)

(3)

1

(4)

(19)

(3)

(8)

(1)

(17)

 

 

WLM

(1.8)

3

9

5

1

0

(10)

(7)

(2)

(5)

(12)

New Mexico St

WAC

TOM

(6.1)

6

(5)

(5)

0

(8)

5

(23)

(10)

(15)

(6)

 

 

WLM

(3.8)

1

(5)

(2)

2

(6)

(1)

(12)

(4)

(5)

(6)

N. Carolina

ACC

TOM

(6.7)

2

(12)

(11)

(15)

(15)

(4)

(1)

(11)

(6)

6

 

 

WLM

(2.4)

(5)

1

2

(6)

(8)

0

(1)

(6)

(4)

3

Idaho

WAC

TOM

(7.9)

0

(12)

(16)

(14)

(5)

(2)

(6)

(1)

(9)

(14)

 

 

WLM

(5.6)

3

(1)

(9)

(8)

(6)

(6)

(7)

(4)

(10)

(8)

SMU

CUSA

TOM

(8.4)

(4)

(13)

(7)

(12)

(13)

(19)

5

1

(9)

(13)

 

 

WLM

(5.5)

(2)

(6)

(3)

(6)

(12)

(5)

(1)

0

(10)

(10)

Army

 

TOM

(10.1)

(4)

(6)

(16)

(14)

(20)

3

(2)

(18)

(10)

(14)

 

 

WLM

(7.0)

(5)

(9)

(5)

(10)

(13)

(7)

(3)

(6)

(6)

(6)

This table includes 13 teams. However, as the simulation indicates, approximately 7 teams should have TOM less than negative 4 if luck is primarily responsible. So, 7 of these teams needed to be eliminated. I used high WLM as the criteria to eliminate teams. Teams that are eliminated and their WLM are: Illinois (-1.8), Washington St (-1.8), Rutgers (-1.9), N. Carolina (-2.4), Wyoming (-3.2), New Mexico State (-3.8), and Kent State (-4.5). That leaves the 6 teams in the summary table included above in the Executive Summary.

In Part 2 of the Turnover Analysis, I’ll look at Steele’s theory about turnovers being a significant cause of turnarounds. I’ll also discuss why turnovers are (or aren’t?) important.

Comments

ntclark

November 18th, 2009 at 9:17 AM ^

But wouldn't a more effective way to determine if turnovers are luck is to compare the TOM of differently skilled players? E.g., teams with higher rated QBs, RBs, WRs, or Defenses should turn the ball over less. Almost certainly as players get older they would turn the ball over less, assuming it's not a random variable. And don't forget that Nebraska turned the ball over 8 times in one game against Iowa State this year :) As hard as that is to believe, 5 is not the max # turnovers a team can have in a game. I'm not trying to sound negative; this was interesting, and thanks for the analysis!

AC1997

November 18th, 2009 at 10:25 AM ^

I really like the idea of challenging how much of TOM is luck and how much isn't. I am also impressed with your method and analysis. But I can't help feeling like something is flawwed in this approach. Maybe it is in some of your assumptions. If TOM were a truly random event it would behave like your dice - normal distribution centered around zero. I think what you're trying to show is that this might be the case when you look at all teams in FBS, but looking at any one team over a shorter period of time (eg: USC the past ten years) shows that their data may not follow this. Perhaps a better way of showing this is to show the distribution of some of these teams graphically and showing that certain teams make up the outliers on either side of the bell curve. I guess that's what you're doing, but it gets confusing at the end of your summary and might work better in graphical form. I was thinking you could do a statistical analysis to show how teams perform versus expected outcome over time. Obviously there is a large component of luck involved. But I don't personally believe after the past two years that it is as large a factor as I used to. There's a difference between Mike Hart and Minor/Brown when it comes to fumbles. There's a difference between an experienced QB running a conservative offense (think Brady/Greise in their day) versus a freshman running an aggressive offense (think Threet/Forcier/Robinson). USC shifts their bell curve positive because they have such a deep and talented team. But look at 2009. They're -3 this year and I can guess why - Freshman QB with inexperienced defense. Therefore luck plays a role, but not a significant one necessarily.

Enjoy Life

November 18th, 2009 at 7:28 PM ^

Dice are familiar to most people. So it was a way to relate the simulation to folks not familiar with statistics/probabilities. CRAPS is basically pure luck as opposed to POKER which is more like turnovers. There is component of luck in poker but some players are more skilled and therefore are more successful. The maximum number of turnovers that actually have occurred in FBS over the last 10 years is 5 except in very rare cases. So, actual data is the basis. In addition, in those rare cases where more than 5 turnovers have occurred for one team, the other team also had 1 or 2 turnovers that reduced the TOM is 5 or less.

wishitwas97

November 18th, 2009 at 3:30 PM ^

somewhere(I forget where, otherwise I'd post it here). If my memory served me right, fumble is random and you can't control it unless you're Mike Hart :-), even the best team fumble. The only variable that you can control is interceptions. If a QB does not throw a lot of INT, chances of winning increases. That pretty much summarize it but that article includes statistics and how fumbles are a random variable while interceptions are not.

jsquigg

November 18th, 2009 at 4:10 PM ^

I think some things are immeasurable. As fans we analyze and predict as a coping mechanism. I don't think turnovers are luck. I think pressure = turnovers. Some turnovers are inexplicable outside of pressure, and those turnovers are usually a result of bad fundamentals. The only question that follows is: Are the players or coaches responsible? I think talent level is a player in that equation as well. So where does Michigan play in this? Our defense is rarely able to apply pressure and the result is a team that has been poor to mediocre in causing turnovers. Our offense is inexperienced and we struggle in pass protection even though we are talented. The result has been that we turn the ball over more than average. I think that we will show definite improvements throughout the Rodriguez era (assuming he gets the opportunity) offensively. It's too early to predict the results defensively though I can say I'm not optimistic. To me luck is not a factor unless something strange happens (like a bird flying into the football, jarring it loose) because in order for turnovers to happen someone has to mess up and/or someone has to make a play. That is all.

MCalibur

November 18th, 2009 at 9:25 PM ^

I think you're right in terms of causing a fumble, but recovering a fumble is a completely different matter. I don't think its so hard to see luck being a significant or dominating factor in recovering fumbles. Interceptions are a whole different animal altogether; Though, that pinball wizard INT Spivey had against Indiana was all luck.