Potential MGoBlog HoF Inagural Candidates

Submitted by MGoBender on February 29th, 2012 at 5:52 PM

 

I figured this would be the easiest way to compile a list of potential inagural class candidates.  The 190 comment thread would be a difficult place to keep track, so here we can be a little more organized.  Make suggestions and I'll add them to the lists.  Since this is just a way to keep track of potential candidates, feel free to throw out some "maybes."  Mods, feel free to edit the OP accordingly. 

This may also help keep that initial thread focused on the manner in which people are elected, etc.  Without further adieu...

 

Football
Avant, Jason 2005
Branch, Allen 2006
Breaston, Steve 2006
Edwards, Braylon 2004
Graham, Brandon 2009
Harris, David 2007
Hart, Mike 2007
Hall, Leon 2006
Henne, Chad 2007
Long, Jake 2007
Martin, Mike 2011
Manningham, Mario 2007
Mesko, Zoltan 2009
Molk, David 2011
Van Bergen, Ryan 2011
Woodley, LaMarr 2006
Basketball
Abram, Lester 2007
Brown, Graham 2006
Douglass, Stu 2012
Harris, Manny 2009
Horton, Daniel 2006
Morris, Darius 2011
Novak, Zack 2012
Petway, Brent 2007
Sims, DeShawn 2009
Ice Hockey
Caporusso, Louie 2011
Hagelin, Carl 2011
Hensick, TJ 2007
Hunwick, Shawn 2012
Johnson, Jack 2007
Kolarik, Chad 2008
Mitera, Mark 2007
Porter, Kevin 2008
Olympic/Non-Revenue
Botterman, Kylee 2011
Cameron, Chris 2011
Evans, Bree 2012
Findlay, Samantha 2008
Luke, Steve 2009
Meram, Justin 2010
Nemitz, Nikki 2010
Paz, Juliana 2010
Putnam, Zach 2008
Ritter, Jennie 2006
Russell, Kellen 2011
Saad, Soony 2010
Saad, Hamoody 2010
Taylor, Jordan 2011
Vanderkay, Peter 2008
Yealy, Trevor 2012
Zimmerman, Lexi 2010
2004
Edwards, Braylon Football
2005
Avant, Jason Football
2006
Branch, Allen Football
Breaston, Steve Football
Brown, Graham Basketball
Hall, Leon Football
Horton, Daniel Basketball
Ritter, Jennie Softball
Woodley, LaMarr Football
2007
Abram, Lester Basketball
Harris, David Football
Hart, Mike Football
Henne, Chad Football
Hensick, TJ Hockey
Johnson, Jack Hockey
Long, Jake Football
Mitera, Mark Hockey
Petway, Brent Basketball
2008
Findlay, Samantha Softball
Kolarik, Chad Hockey
Porter, Kevin Hockey
Putnam, Zach Baseball
Vanderkay, Peter Swimming
2009
Graham, Brandon Football
Luke, Steven Wrestling
Mesko, Zoltan Football
Harris, Manny Basketball
Sims, DeShawn Basketball
2010
Meram, Justin Soccer
Nemitz, Nikki Softball
Paz, Juliana Volleyball
Saad, Soony Soccer
Saad, Hamoody Soccer
Zimmerman, Lexi Volleyball
2011
Botterman, Kylee Gymnastics
Cameron, Chris Gymnastics
Caporusso, Louie Hockey
Hagelin, Carl Hockey
Martin, Mike Football
Molk, David Football
Morris, Darius Basketball
Russell, Kellen Wrestling
Taylor, Jordan Softball
Van Bergen, Ryan Football
2012
Douglass, Stu Basketball
Evans, Bree Softball
Novak, Zack Basketball
Yealy, Trevor Lacrosse

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Comments

enlightenedbum

February 29th, 2012 at 6:01 PM ^

Do you have Shawn and Matt Hunwick confused?  Because Shawn's final season is obviously you know, ongoing.

I'm not sure I'd vote for his inclusion, but I think Leon Hall is definitely someone worth considering.

Trebor

February 29th, 2012 at 6:08 PM ^

Kevin Porter's last season was 2007-08. Add TJ Hensick (2006-07 final season) at least, since he was really the last of the midget destroyers on the hockey team.

I think Braylon's outside of the range Brian wanted since he was gone in 2005.

teepodum

February 29th, 2012 at 6:18 PM ^

I vote for Mike Hart, Martin, Molk, and Stu and Zack.  Maybe we should just start current (Martin,Molk,Stu,Zack) and proceed.  Denard would be an obvious choice for next year.

Bosch

February 29th, 2012 at 11:26 PM ^

I'm not arguing that Abram or Brown need to make the final cut, but the parameters for nomination haven't exactly been etched in stone.  Abram was a consistent contributor, playing for an incompetant HC and while fighting through an injury plagued career.  Brown worked as hard as anyone.  He was constantly going after lose balls and he was a solid rebounder. 

Some notable stats for Abram and Brown:

  • Abram sits at #28 on Michigan's career leaders for total points scored.
  • Abram sits at #18 on three pointers made.
  • Abram sits at #4 on free throw percentage.
  • Brown sits at #20 for total rebounds.
  • Brown sits at #28 for average rebounds.
  • Brown and Abram are tied for 11th for games started.

Are these stats overly impressive?  No.  However, we are talking about a pretty small window (2005-present).  The list of potential candidates will be inherently thin.  Abram and Brown may not belong in an "elite" HOF, but Brian said himself that being "really good" should not be the only metric for consideration.  I stand by my OP.

PurpleStuff

March 1st, 2012 at 12:28 PM ^

Amaker finished .500 or better in the Big Ten 4 out of the 6 years he was here, despite inheriting a complete clusterfuck of a program, NCAA sanctions, and dealing with atrocious facilities.  He's now won 20+ games each of the last three years at a school that had never won a conference title before his arrival and hadn't made the NCAA tournament since the '40's.

Calling the guy "incompetent" is completely ridiculous.

Bosch

March 1st, 2012 at 6:32 PM ^

but Amaker is a terrible coach.  He proved to be a decent recruiter, which contributed to his occasional mediocore success when at Michigan, but Michigan consistently underachieved with him leading the team.

He is finding success at Harvard but I suspect a lot of that has to do with him being able to put a more talented team on the floor than the other league teams more so than anything else.

MaizeMN

February 29th, 2012 at 6:28 PM ^

It would be nice to see 1 legacy inductee from the years prior added to this list each year.  That would allow the Mike Hammersteins of the M-universe to be represented.

Sac Fly

February 29th, 2012 at 6:35 PM ^

There were a lot of great players who played in that era for Michigan hockey but didn't stay around long enough to be considered like Pacioretty, Cogliano or Palushaj.

The one player we may consider is Chad Kolarick. He finished his Michigan career with 174 points, 9 less than Kevin Porter and 22 more than Carl Hagelin.

enlightenedbum

February 29th, 2012 at 6:42 PM ^

I think you need something iconic beyond your play on the ice/floor/field to get you in.  For example, RVB was a good player, arguably an all-Big Ten kind of player, but there were several defensive linemen better than him in the Mgoblog era (Graham, Woodley, Branch, Martin, possibly Tim Jamison and Terrence Taylor).  But RVB was a fantastic leader and was part of the group that kept Team 132 together (and comes off incredibly well in Three and Out), so gets bonus points for symbolizing all of that (along with Molk and Martin and Koger, who wasn't productive enough on the field to get in).  Similarly Kolarik's numbers are better than Hagelin, but Hagelin had a knack for timely goals, was great defensively, is the fastest hockey player I've ever seen live, and had the Swedish flag.

denverblue

March 1st, 2012 at 12:31 AM ^

Not to disagree with you on your overall point, because Kolarik was amazing and certainly deserves HOF consideration, but there are a bunch of players who have scored 10 GWG's in a season: Colin Himingway, UNH, 2002; Chuck Kobasew, BC, 2001; Doug Weight, LSSU, 1991; Tim Barakett, Harvard, 1986, John Newberry, Wisconsin, 1982; Aaron Broten, Minny, 1981; Tom Earl, Colgate, 1970

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/m_icehockey_rb/2012/DI.pdf

 

Sac Fly

March 1st, 2012 at 12:28 PM ^

On the season in review that they used to do for Michigan. It might even be sudden death GW goals, I know they call it a game winner even if it's a first period goal that technically wins, so maybe they count actual game winners.

Trebor

March 1st, 2012 at 9:13 AM ^

Having seen admittedly few games from Hagelin's career, I think Cogs was faster. Hagelin was by far the better player overall, but there's a reason Cogs' speed was compared to Bure in his draft year.

Also, Kolarik definitely deserves at least some consideration on the list. He's not a shoo-in like Porter, but if someone completely overrated like Brent Petway is on the list, there's no way Kolarik isn't. He completely changed his game between his freshman year and his senior year, and in his senior year did everything he could to push for Porter getting the Hobey despite being just as good and important to the team. When he got hurt against Lake State and had to miss the series against MSU and Ferris (including the senior night festivities), it was heartbreaking because he really was one of those guys who gave his all to the team. And to come back from that injury by posting a hat trick against UNO in the CCHA playoffs was awesome, especially because you could tell that he still wasn't 100%.

The more I think about it, the more I'm convincing myself that Kolarik should totally be in this HOF...

MGoBender

March 1st, 2012 at 9:18 AM ^

Who you calling overrated?

I threw him on there because:

A: This is a nomination list, not actual members.

B: Brent Petway helped turn things around from a basketball interest perspective, along with Horton and Abram and Hambone.

C: His time was when I became a diehard hoops fan, so it's a personal pick.  And he was everything a Michigan Man should be.

D: This is a fan Hall of Fame.  Otherwise, a punter would never be considered.

E: The haircut.

Trebor

March 1st, 2012 at 12:38 PM ^

Sorry if I offended you with the Petway comment - I just grabbed a name at random from the basketball list. But Kolarik, in my opinion at least, is far more deserving than Petway, because Kolarik's contribution to the team as a whole was greater than Petway's. And I'd argue that he's just as much a "Michigan Man" (god what a terrible meme, by the way) as Petway was.

Also, can you change the OP to "Chad Kolarik" (without a c in the last name) and "Mark Mitera" (as opposed to Mike). Thanks!

MGoBender

March 1st, 2012 at 2:37 PM ^

No offense taken.  Petway is clearly the biggest "?" up there and I put him there so I felt I needed to defend him somewhere.  I wasn't trying to compare him to anyone else either.

I think Petway wins (maybe even big) in the "captured the fans heart" category while his actual significance and performance are very little compared to others on the list. 

robb0226

February 29th, 2012 at 6:41 PM ^

I'm pretty sure David Harris left us after the 2006 season, I could be wrong about that though.  But I do agree with just about everyone else on here.  Darius Morris being the one closest to the border for me, being the case of only have one good (great) season

MaizeMN

February 29th, 2012 at 6:44 PM ^

...but it seems to me that a great many of the potential inductees would not have been Michigan Men were it not for those that came before.  We don't put a time limit on "Team 132" or 42 BIG Championships; should we constrain this because their contributions precede a blog that didn't exist?

Baxter

March 1st, 2012 at 12:01 PM ^

He may not have participated, but he brought in a ton of sponsorship money for the school/team, raised it's already high profile, and helped bring an amazing coach in Bob Bowman.  Not to mention that having the Vanderkay's swimming against him in intra-squad/training meets definitely improved the team itself.

yeahrice

March 1st, 2012 at 8:27 AM ^

my cool story bro moment.

I'm at a party and Phelps walks in. He immediately cuts in front of everyone in line for the keg. Someone shouts and tells him to wait his turn. He responds by saying "I'm Michael Phelps, I've got six* gold medals. I do whatever the f""" I want" To be honest I couldn't stop laughing after he said that, but he was totally serious. So yeah, he is a jerk,.

*This occurred before the Olympics in 2008

coastal blue

February 29th, 2012 at 9:27 PM ^

If we go with the Bill Simmons pyramid idea that Brian suggested, then Hart would make it on...but I don't think he deserves first ballot. 

He gets in because of his numbers, because of games like 2007 Penn State and his never quit attitude but...let's be honest: Michigan was 0-4 against Ohio during his time here and 1-3 in bowl games. In those 4 games his numbers to finish out the season:
 

2004: Ohio 18 carries, 61 yards, 1TD. Texas 21 carries, 83 yards

2005: Ohio 9 carries, 15 yards. Nebraska 19 carries, 74 yards

2006: Ohio 23 carries, 142 yards, 3 TDs. USC 17 carries, 47 yards

2007: Ohio 18 carries, 44 yards (played hurt). Florida 32 carries, 129 yards, 2 TD and 2 Fumbles inside the 5. 

In 8 attempts in the games that matter, he came up with 1 truly great performance and 1 good/very good performance. Those were the biggest games and he rarely made a difference. 

You can point to the team's record vs. MSU while he was at UM, but Sparty was 5-7, 5-6, 4-8 and 7-6 from 2004-07. 

Great leader, great player...

I don't think he deserves first ballot status. 

Vivz

March 1st, 2012 at 2:02 AM ^

Those numbers in the big games total and average out to

157 total carries 595 yds (6 TD) and 3.78 ypc and

74.3 yards/game  and .75 touchdowns. (on 19.65 carries)

Those are NOT awful numbers, especially considering as you point out it is against the cream of the crop.In one of the games he played hurt, and in others, he wasn't the only person that shit the bed. He also was 2-2 against Notre Dame, and 4-0 against MSU, 3-0 against PSU

You mention his 2 fumbles against Florida, he had 1 other (3total) on 1015 rushes. 

If Mike Hart isn't a first ballot player, who is more deserving as a leader and player? Who is it that never had a bad game? Who else exceeded expectations quite like him (3* rivals)?

First ballot.

BrewCityBlue

March 1st, 2012 at 10:59 AM ^

4 year starter and M's all time career leading rusher after being an unheralded recruit.

Not to mention coined "little brother" and was the heart and soul of the team for his entire career. 

Kinda tough to argue with all that in my opinion. 

coastal blue

March 1st, 2012 at 2:13 PM ^

I guess when you look at it, Hart has to be first ballot.

But I think that because Hart is on that ballot, it shows that Michigan has really fallen in its standing as an athletics program. 

If you come to Michigan to play football, the biggest game of the year is against Ohio and Hart was 0-4 and its not like he lit up the Buckeyes and they just happened to come out on top. It's just hard for me to come to terms with that being one of the premier careers at Michigan but as people have pointed out, who else would you put up there? 

 

GrowBlue

February 29th, 2012 at 6:58 PM ^

Just a suggestion: you may want to sort the tables by year, rather than athlete name. I'd like to think about it in this fashion: "Whom from the 2011 team is a candidate?"