Big Ten Recruiting Class Rankings 1-22-12

Submitted by Ace on January 22nd, 2012 at 1:04 PM

The recruiting rankings are front-paged this week as we have a change at the top. Unfortunately, you probably know the change, and you're almost certainly not going to like it: Ohio State jumps Michigan after picking up four recruits (and the Wolverines losing Caleb Stacey, though that wouldn't have mattered in terms of the standings). Otherwise, the team rankings hold steady as we near signing day. Action since last rankings:

1-15-12: Taylor Decker changes commitment from Notre Dame to Ohio State. Illinois picks up T.J. Neal.
1-16-12: Penn State picks up Jordan Lucas.
1-17-12: Ohio State picks up Joey O'Connor. Gunner Kiel changes commitment from LSU to Notre Dame. Minnesota picks up Roland Johnson.
1-18-12: Ohio State picks up David Perkins. Minnesota picks up K.J. Maye.
1-20-12: Camren Williams changes commitment from Penn State to Ohio State.
1-21-12: Caleb Stacey changes commitment from Michigan to Cincinnati. Nebraska picks up LeRoy Alexander. Zach Jackson changes commitment from Illinois to TCU. Illinois picks up Justin Hardee. Minnesota picks up Ben Lauer.

Chart? Chart:

Big Ten+ Recruiting Class Rankings
Rank School # Commits Rivals Avg Scout Avg ESPN Avg 24/7 Avg Avg Avg^
1 Ohio State 23 3.70 3.74 3.43 3.61 3.62
2 Michigan 23 3.57 3.65 3.39 3.57 3.54
3 Notre Dame 17 3.53 3.76 3.53 3.59 3.60
4 Wisconsin 12 3.33 3.33 3.17 3.50 3.33
5 Penn State 14 3.07 3.14 3.07 3.21 3.13
6 Michigan State 14 3.14 3.14 3.00 3.07 3.09
7 Iowa 18 3.00 2.94 2.83* 2.83 2.90
8 Nebraska 12 3.41 2.92 2.90* 3.33 3.14
9 Purdue 25 2.92 2.48 2.72* 2.76 2.72
10 Northwestern 20 2.75 2.65 2.55 2.65 2.65
11 Indiana 23 2.65 2.48 2.38* 2.43 2.49
12 Illinois 14 2.71 2.71 2.50 2.57 2.63
13 Minnesota 28 2.68 2.29 1.92* 2.25 2.28

*ESPN doesn't rate JuCos, so they are counted as unranked recruits for the sake of consistency (trust me, it makes sense when you look at the spreadsheet).
^The average of the average rankings of the four recruiting services (aka the previous four columns). The figure is calculated based on the raw numbers and then rounded, so the numbers above may not average out exactly.

On to the full data, after the jump.

 

#1 Ohio State - 23 Commits
Name Position State Rivals Scout ESPN 24/7
Noah Spence DE PA 5 5 5 5
Adolphus Washington DE OH 5 5 4 5
Bri'onte Dunn RB OH 4 5 4 4
Tommy Schutt DT IL 4 5 4 4
Joshua Perry LB OH 4 4 4 4
David Perkins LB IN 4 4 4 4
Se'Von Pittman DE OH 4 4 4 4
Warren Ball RB OH 4 4 3 4
De'Van Bogard S OH 4 4 3 4
Taylor Decker OL OH 4 4 3 4
Camren Williams LB MA 4 4 3 4
Michael Thomas WR VA 4 4 3 3
Joey O'Connor OL CO 4 3 4 3
Najee Murray CB OH 3 4 3 3
Pat Elflein OL OH 3 3 4 3
Ricquan Southward WR FL 3 3 4 3
Jacoby Boren OL OH 3 3 3 3
Cardale Jones QB OH 3 3 3 4
Frank Epitropoulos WR OH 3 3 3 3
Blake Thomas TE OH 3 3 3 3
Roger Lewis WR OH 3 3 3 3
Luke Roberts LB OH 3 3 3 3
Tyvis Powell S OH 3 3 2 3

The Buckeyes get four commits in one week, adding Taylor Decker, David Perkins, Joey O'Connor, and Camren Williams. Adolphus Washington gets a fifth star from Rivals. Ohio State takes over the top spot in the rankings. Blergh.

#2 Michigan - 23 Commits
Name Position State Rivals Scout ESPN 24/7
Kyle Kalis OL OH 5 5 4 4
Ondre Pipkins DT MO 5 4 4 4
Royce Jenkins-Stone LB MI 4 4 4 4
James Ross LB MI 4 4 4 4
Joe Bolden LB OH 4 4 4 4
Terry Richardson CB MI 4 4 4 4
Erik Magnuson OL CA 4 4 4 4
Jarrod Wilson S OH 4 4 4 4
Amara Darboh WR IA 4 4 3 4
Tom Strobel DE OH 4 4 3 4
Blake Bars OL TN 4 3 3 3
Devin Funchess TE MI 3 4 4 4
Chris Wormley DE OH 3 4 4 4
Mario Ojemudia DE MI 3 4 4 3
A.J. Williams TE OH 3 4 3 3
Matt Godin DE MI 3 3 3 4
Kaleb Ringer LB OH 3 3 3 3
Ben Braden OL MI 3 3 3 3
Jehu Chesson WR MO 3 3 3 3
Jeremy Clark S KY 3 3 3 3
Allen Gant S OH 3 3 3 3
Sione Houma FB UT 3 3 2 3
Drake Johnson RB MI 3 3 2 3

The Wolverines lose Caleb Stacey, who chose to stay close to home at Cincinnati. Ondre Pipkins earns a fifth star from Rivals and (finally) gets a four-star rating from ESPN.

#3 Notre Dame - 17 Commits
Name Position State Rivals Scout ESPN 24/7
Gunner Kiel QB IN 5 5 4 5
Jarron Jones DT NY 4 4 4 5
Tee Shepard CB CA 4 5 4 4
Sheldon Day DT IN 4 5 4 4
Deontay Greenberry WR CA 4 5 4 4
Elijah Shumate S NJ 4 4 4 4
Ronnie Stanley OL NV 4 4 4 4
William Mahone RB OH 4 4 4 3
KeiVarae Russell RB WA 4 4 3 4
Nick Baratti S TX 3 3 3 3
C.J. Prosise S VA 3 4 3 3
Justin Ferguson WR FL 3 3 4 3
Mark Harrell OL NC 3 3 4 3
Romeo Okwara DE NC 3 3 3 4
Chris Brown WR SC 3 3 3 3
John Turner S IN 3 3 3 3
Scott Daly LS IL 2 2 2 2

The Irish lose Taylor Decker but pick up top-ranked quarterback Gunner Kiel. Though Notre Dame now pulls ahead of Michigan in terms of average ranking, the Wolverines hold onto second place due to having six more commits.

#4 Wisconsin - 12 Commits
Name Position State Rivals Scout ESPN 24/7
Dan Voltz OL IL 4 4 4 4
Vince Biegel LB WI 4 4 4 4
J.J. Denman OL PA 4 4 4 4
Kyle Dodson OL OH 4 4 3 4
Vonte Jackson RB WI 4 4 3 4
Bart Houston QB CA 3 4 4 4
D.J. Singleton S NJ 3 4 4 3
Walker Williams OL WA 3 3 3 3
Arthur Goldberg DT PA 3 3 2 3
Hugs Etienne CB CA 3 2 3 3
Reggie Love WR FL 3 2 2 3
Reggie Mitchell CB PA 2 2 2 3

No change for the Badgers.

#5 Penn State - 14 Commits
Name Position State Rivals Scout ESPN 24/7
Eugene Lewis WR PA 4 4 4 4
Armani Reeves CB MA 4 4 4 4
Jamil Pollard DT NJ 4 3 3 4
Brent Wilkerson DE MD 3 3 3 4
Brian Gaia OL MD 3 3 4 3
Skyler Mornhinweg QB PA 3 3 4 3
Jordan Lucas S MA 3 3 3 3
Anthony Stanko OL OH 3 3 3 3
Nyeem Wartman LB PA 3 3 3 3
Jesse James TE PA 3 3 3 3
Austin Johnson OL NJ 3 3 NR 3
Malik Golden ATH PA 3 3 3 3
Jake Kiley CB NH 2 3 2 2
Derek Dowrey DT VA 2 3 3 3

The Nittany Lions lose Camren Williams to Ohio State and pick up three-star safety Jordan Lucas.

#6 Michigan State - 14 Commits
Name Position State Rivals Scout ESPN 24/7
Aaron Burbridge WR MI 4 4 4 4
Jamal Lyles LB MI 4 4 3 3
Benny McGowan OL OH 3 3 4 3
Tyler O'Connor QB OH 3 3 3 4
Riley Bullough LB MI 3 3 3 3
Zach Higgins OL OH 3 3 3 3
Josiah Price TE IN 3 3 3 3
Nick Tompkins RB GA 3 3 3 3
Kyle Kerrick WR PA 3 3 3 3
MacGarrett Kings WR FL 3 3 3 3
Jermaine Edmondson S OH 3 3 3 2
Kodi Kieler OL MI 3 3 3 3
Evan Jones TE OH 3 3 NR 3
Ezra Robinson CB FL 3 3 3 3

No change for the Spartans.

#7 Iowa - 18 Commits
Name Position State Rivals Scout ESPN 24/7
Faith Ekakitie DE IL 4 4 4 4
Greg Garmon RB PA 4 4 4 4
Jaleel Johnson DT IL 4 4 4 4
Ryan Ward OL IL 4 3 4 3
Maurice Fleming CB IL 3 3 4 3
Ruben Lile ATH MI 3 3 3 3
Cameron Wilson WR OH 3 3 3 3
Anthony Morgan S TX 3 3 3 3
Mitch Keppy OL IL 3 3 2 3
Michael Malloy RB IA 3 3 2 3
Drew Ott DE NE 3 2 3 3
Daumantas Venckus DE FL 3 2 3 2
Greg Mabin WR FL 3 2 2 3
Eric Simmons OL IA 3 2 JC NR
Laron Taylor LB MI 2 3 3 3
Kevin Buford CB MI 2 3 3 3
Connor Kornbrath K WV 2 3 2 2
Tevaun Smith WR CT 2 3 JC NR

No change for the Hawkeyes, though Daumantas Vanckus, Greg Mabin, and Eric Simmons all get two-star ratings from Scout.

#8 Nebraska - 12 Commits
Name Position State Rivals Scout ESPN 24/7
Paul Thurston OL CO 4 4 4 4
Greg McMullen DE OH 4 3 3 4
Jordan Westerkamp WR IL 4 4 3 4
Mohammed Seisay CB AZ 4 3 JC 4
Zaire Anderson LB CA 4 2 JC 3
Michael Rose LB MO 3 3 4 4
Tommy Armstrong QB TX 3 4 3 3
Jared Afalava LB UT 3 3 4 4
Thomas Brown LB CA 3 3 3 3
Avery Moss DE AZ 3 3 2 3
Sam Cotton TE NE 3 2 3 3
LeRoy Alexander S OH 3 NR NR NR

The Cornhuskers pick up safety LeRoy Alexander, but it's not quite enough to move them up the rankings since Iowa has six more commits while MSU and PSU have near-equal average ratings and two more commits each.

#9 Purdue - 25 Commits
Name Position State Rivals Scout ESPN 24/7
Ryan Watson DE MD 4 4 3 4
Jordan Shine S IN 3 3 3 3
Ryan Morris TE NJ 3 3 3 3
Austin Appleby QB OH 3 3 3 3
Jordan Roos OL TX 3 3 3 3
Bilal Marshall QB FL 3 3 3 3
Kingsley Ike DE TX 3 3 3 3
Dion Witty CB FL 3 2 3 3
Jonathan Curry TE AL 3 3 3 3
Paul Griggs K NC 3 3 3 3
Aloyis Gray ATH IN 3 3 2 3
Andy Garcia LB FL 3 2 2 2
Cameron Cermin OL TX 3 2 3 3
B.J. Knauf WR FL 3 3 2 3
Jimmy Herman S IN 3 3 2 3
Devin Smith OL AZ 3 3 JC 3
Carlos Carvajal TE NY 3 3 3 3
Anthony Brown CB FL 3 2 2 3
Danny Anthrop WR IN 3 2 2 2
Greg Latta DE CA 3 2 JC 2
Cameron Posey WR FL 3 NR 2 3
James Prince OL TX 3 NR NR NR
Jordan Woods WR MI 2 3 2 3
Thomas Meadows K VA 2 2 2 2
Jason King OL AK 2 NR 3 NR

No change for the Boilermakers.

#10 Northwestern - 20 Commits
Name Position State Rivals Scout ESPN 24/7
Ifeadi Odenigbo DE OH 4 4 4 4
Greg Kuhar DT OH 4 3 3 3
Adam DePietro OL PA 3 4 3 3
Dean Lowry DE IL 3 3 3 3
Kenton Playko OL OH 3 3 3 3
Eric Olson OL MA 3 3 3 3
Jack Schwaba TE PA 3 3 3 2
Ian Park OL PA 3 3 3 3
Eric Wilson WR MI 3 3 3 3
Malin Jones RB IL 3 3 2 3
Traveon Henry RB FL 3 3 2 3
Terrance Brown S CA 3 2 2 3
Mike McHugh WR PA 3 2 2 2
Dwight White CB TX 3 2 2 2
Connor Mahoney OL PA 2 3 3 2
Dan Vitale S IL 2 2 2 2
Joseph Jones S PA 2 2 2 3
Chris Fitzpatrick OL KY 2 2 2 2
Jaylen Prater LB OH 2 2 2 3
Andrew Scanlan WR PA NR NR 2 NR

No change for the Wildcats.

#11 Indiana - 23 Commits
Name Position State Rivals Scout ESPN 24/7
Nick Mangieri DE IL 3 3 3 3
Dan Feeney OL IL 3 3 3 3
Jordan Wallace LB IN 3 3 3 3
Kevin Davis WR IN 3 3 3 3
Adam Kranda TE IN 3 3 3 3
Wes Rogers OL IN 3 3 3 3
Mike Cotton LB IL 3 3 3 3
Shawn Heffern DE IN 3 3 3 3
Jason Spriggs TE IN 3 3 3 3
Tevin Coleman RB IL 3 3 3 3
Jacarri Alexander LB IA 3 3 JC 2
David Cooper LB KS 3 2 JC 3
Antonio Marshall CB GA 3 NR JC 2
Ryan Thompson S MS 3 NR JC NR
Caleb Cornett WR IN 3 3 2 2
Ralphael Green OL TX 3 2 2 NR
Tanner Kearns TE OH 2 3 2 3
Alex Todd OL OH 2 3 2 3
Jacob Bailey OL IN 2 2 3 3
Dawson Fletcher S OH 2 2 2 2
Tregg Waters S AZ 2 2 JC 2
Justin Rayside DE CA 2 2 JC NR
Cameron Coffman QB AZ NR NR JC NR

Shaine Boyle decommits from the Hoosiers. Well, Rivals no longer lists him as a commit, though I can't find any article on the matter, so for now I'm taking him off the board.

#12 Illinois - 13 Commits
Name Position State Rivals Scout ESPN 24/7
Dami Ayoola RB FL 3 3 3 3
T.J. Neal LB PA 3 3 3 NR
Tajarvis Fuller LB FL 3 3 3 3
Joseph Spencer OL OH 3 3 3 3
Vontrell Williams DT IL 3 3 3 3
Elliot Faerber WR KS 3 3 2 2
Robert Bain OL IL 3 3 2 3
Mason Monheim LB OH 3 3 2 3
Tyler Barton S FL 3 2 2 2
Teko Powell DT FL 3 2 NR 2
Jason Robertson WR IL 2 3 3 3
Joey Warburg OL KY 2 2 3 3
Justin Hardee WR OH 2 2 NR 2
Ryan Frain K IN 2 3 2 2

The Illini add T.J. Neal and Justin Hardee, but lose the commitment of Zach Jackson to TCU.

#13 Minnesota - 28 Commits
Name Position State Rivals Scout ESPN 24/7
Jonah Pirsig OL MN 3 4 3 4
Isaac Hayes OL MN 3 3 4 3
Jamel Harbison WR NC 3 3 4 3
Philip Nelson QB MN 3 3 2 3
Jack Lynn LB IL 3 3 2 3
Dinero Moss S FL 3 2 3 3
Brian Nicholson LB FL 3 2 2 2
Jordan Hinojosa DT FL 3 2 NR 3
Martez Shabazz CB TX 3 2 JC 3
Nick Rallis S MN 3 3 2 3
Maxx Williams TE MN 3 3 NR 3
Rodrick Williams RB TX 3 2 NR 3
James Gillum RB MS 3 2 JC NR
K.J. Maye QB AL 3 NR 3 2
Roland Johnson DT KS 3 2 JC NR
Mitch Leidner QB MN 2 3 2 3
Drew Davis LB NC 2 2 3 3
Eric Murray CB WI 2 2 NR 2
Scott Ekpe DT TX 2 2 2 3
Isaac Fruechte WR MN 2 2 JC 2
Jeremy Baltazar CB TX 2 2 JC NR
Duke Anyanwu WR MN 3 2 1 2
Alex Keith DE MO 2 2 2 NR
Antonio Johnson S OH 3 2 2 NR
Damarius Travis S FL 3 NR NR NR
Lincoln Plsek DE TX 3 2 NR NR
Briean Boddy CB KS 3 2 JC NR
Ben Lauer OL MN NR 2 NR 2

The Gophers add three new commitments in Roland Johnson, Ben Lauer, and K.J. Maye.

Comments

Maize 'n Chew

January 22nd, 2012 at 1:15 PM ^

after Ohio going .500 for the year, being due for a 1 year bowl suspension and all the negative publicity, they still pull out a top recruiting class.  this just really sticks in my craw...

buckeyedude

January 23rd, 2012 at 9:41 AM ^

Hiring Meyer was a no brainer. After having screwed up the handling of Tatgate, Gene Smith and especially Gee have been praised by some for hiring Meyer. Go figure.

Would have liked to see Toledo product Chris Wormley go to OSU, who was being recruited hard by OSU. But Wormley grew up liking the UM helmets, so what you going to do? But I think OSU did get some decent DEs to fill Wormley's spot in Noah Spence(5*) and Adolphus W 

GoWings2008

January 23rd, 2012 at 10:12 AM ^

Was the best choice, by far, but I can't help but recall the controversy that he had at Florida, and the fact that his success was based upon guys that he didn't actively recruit.  I do think that he's a good coach, but its still WAY too early to put him on the pedestal that the buckeye fan base has put him on.  The things I hear, they feel that winning with him will be as easy as falling off a log...all they gotta do is show up.  You guys should be weary of what you've hired, esp 3-4 yrs down the road.

IndyBlue90

January 22nd, 2012 at 1:15 PM ^

how is it possible that they have 23 commits, I thought they were looking at around 15 or so? Have they had enough attrition to warrant that big of a class, or are my numbers just off?

IndyBlue90

January 22nd, 2012 at 1:15 PM ^

how is it possible that they have 23 commits, I thought they were looking at around 15 or so? Have they had enough attrition to warrant that big of a class, or are my numbers just off?

Urban Warfare

January 22nd, 2012 at 1:27 PM ^

There's an article in the Columbus Dispatch today on OSU's scholarship numbers. 

Basically, OSU has 60 players on scholarship coming back next year, so they have room for 22 right now, but there are lots of rumors around campus that other players are transferring or about to get cut for discipline reasons (read: Jamal Berry and Chris Carter).

http://www.buckeyextra.com/content/stories/2012/01/22/scholarship-count…

Boknowsall

January 22nd, 2012 at 1:26 PM ^

They are desperatlely thin on OL numbers, especially given the fact that a couple they took last year were stretches.  They also are thin at DB, listening to them, and I am not seeing many of those.  They have a more DE's than can play on the field, and I believe took two last year.  Throw in an extremely overrated DT, and I'm not that impressed.  It's almost like Meyer came in and said I know what we need, but we are just going to swing for the fences with 5 star guys, and figure out how to convert them to OT at a later date.  On signing day, we will be back in front of them, on paper and on the field.

Boknowsall

January 22nd, 2012 at 6:28 PM ^

Two of those DE's are never moving inside.  And they need tackles, not guards.  Two of the OL recruits they got last year will never make this years roster.  So it's not silly, it's reality.  They are counting on Dodson and Diamond, and they may wiff on both.  Ever see a right guard try and play left tackle?  Look at the moves they are making.  But hey, take two running backs, good for them.

leu2500

January 22nd, 2012 at 1:30 PM ^

For example, the Tat 5 had an average Rivals ranking of 4.6 stars. 

How different would Ohio's season have been if those 4.6 stars had not been instrumental in Tressel being replaced with Fickel?

 

Ball Hawk

January 22nd, 2012 at 1:30 PM ^

I wish there would only be 1 ranking site. Not that stars mean everything but when other sites rank players so different from each other, you kinda wonder what goes through their heads. If some of these players wouldnt have played in the Under Armour or Army game, it would be hard to evaluate them. I know its about money to have other sites to rank players. I really really hate Ohio!

go16blue

January 22nd, 2012 at 2:13 PM ^

Just remember, while it totally sucks that OSU has such a great class after what they did, we have an equally great class (especially considering who we still lead for). At the end of the recruiting process, we will have the two best recruiting classes in the B1G by a mile.

The B1G is well on its way back to the Big 2, Little 10. While that isn't as good as Michigan dominating, it's a hell of a lot better than where we've been for the last decade or so. Keep it in perspective, this is still fantastic news.

UMaD

January 22nd, 2012 at 2:20 PM ^

to pass either OSU or us.  Their inclusion on the list is debatable, but Nebraska also has a lot of spots to fill.  My point:  long way to signing day still.

Michigan has typically had a class ranked 10-15 nationally for the last decade.  The '10 and '11 classes had a dropoff due to the W-L records, but this year's class doesn't indicate a significant change in the conference hierarchy.

RedGreene

January 22nd, 2012 at 2:52 PM ^

10-15?  I agree that the last couple years have dropped off due to the W-L record, but the classes before that were usually top ten.  

2009 - 14th

2008 - 6th

2007 - 10th

2006 - 9th

2005 - 2nd

2004 - 5th

2003 - 8th

2002 - 19th

That's an average of about 8. (taken from scout)

 

 

UMaD

January 22nd, 2012 at 3:10 PM ^

I don't have it in front of me, but I looked at the average between all 3 sites and the range of the average rank was typically in the 10-15 range.  But yeah, some years they got higher and it could have been higher in the late 90s.  Still, it's a quibble.  The point is that Michigan's rank this year will likely be near it's historical norm and not indicitive of a sea change.

In general, it's (back to) buisiness as usual.

elaydin

January 22nd, 2012 at 2:28 PM ^

This is a nitpick, but it looks like Rivals updated a lot more than adding a few 5 stars.  Somehow, they have Purdue as #3 in the conference.  Looks like about half the teams have higher Rivals ratings now.

brandanomano

January 22nd, 2012 at 2:31 PM ^

So is Ohio's class pretty much filled up at this point? I like our chances of finishing at the top considering we're in a very good position with Garnett, Diamond, Grant, and Reeves. It's looking like it'll be a great finish for us.

elaydin

January 22nd, 2012 at 2:47 PM ^

I don't think anyone can claim to know how serious Diamond is about anybody.  Probably between OSU/UM/Auburn, but he was just at Arkansas and you never know about those SEC schools.

Reeves is between OSU and UM.  I would think Camren Williams would give OSU a slight edge, however, I think Mattison has the final in home visit (which would be advantage UM).

Urban Warfare

January 22nd, 2012 at 2:54 PM ^

11W is feeling confident about Reeves, and they've been pretty accurate so far.  Cam Williams' dad is Reeves' godfather and apparently surrogate father figure, so I think this might be one of those mythical "package deals."

As for Diamond, I get the sense that he's still undecided.  I think we'll steal Dodson from Wiscy, so I don't know how big a priority Diamond is at this point. 

Dizzy

January 22nd, 2012 at 3:11 PM ^

How many available scholarships does OSU have this year? I thought they were expected to have a slightly smaller class than usual. Will this year's class have any effect on their '13 class size?

Scarlatina

January 22nd, 2012 at 4:18 PM ^

OSU's class is full. However, there's a few players that are still comtemplating tranferring. Most notable Jamaal Berry, which would be a shame since I think he fits Urban's system pretty well. From what I can gather, Reeves and Dodson would have the last spots in the class if two more current players transfer. There also a few players on the team that were originially walk-ons and were given a scholarship because OSU had a few the spare (like Adam Griffin), so I don't know how the current staff will deal with those.

Mengin06

January 22nd, 2012 at 5:27 PM ^

Does any body else find it odd that it seems like we've completely failed to capitalize on our successful season with respect to recruiting this past month or so? All of our big name recruits have come before or during the season when the coaching staff's ability was still in question. Now, after seeing their success, it seems like our top potential recruits have all ended up elsewhere. I thought they'd be running to us with a program like Michigan and a great coaching staff. What's up??? It's frustrating to see us sink in the rankings after our tangible success.

UMgradMSUdad

January 22nd, 2012 at 6:26 PM ^

I'm not worried by it at all.  We filled up with a lot of really good recruits early on.  We are still going to pick up several more players before it's all said and done. We're not so much sinking as Ohio has picked up a few recruits with their coaching change and problems elsewhere, notably Penn State.  Speaking of whiich, Black Shoe Diaries is trumpeting a haul of three new recruits, all in the 2-3 star range.  I don't blame them for putting it in a positive light, but man, how the mighty have fallen.

bronxblue

January 22nd, 2012 at 8:19 PM ^

I think that the staff has been recruiting hard, but kids on the fence tend to stay on the fence until NSD (if not later), and that's what we are seeing here.  I mean, OSU picked up a couple of kids who were always pretty much shoe-ins (Dunn, Pittman) and then had a couple of PSU tire-fire kids join the fray.  Decker from ND came with his coach, so that isn't a surprise.

I expect Hoke to recruit well at the end, and for there to be a couple of surprises.  11W seems to think every kid in the world is going to sign with OSU, but right now I expect either Diamond or Reeves to go blue, and maybe both.  Just because biased chatter is coming on contrary to that doesn't change the fact that OSU is still looking at a bowl ban and reduced scholarship count. 

Brown Bear

January 22nd, 2012 at 8:10 PM ^

Breaking news: Ohio recruits well

Everyone needs to chill. They have always recruited well and we are back to doing the same. Have we all forgot the last 50 years? This is normal and expected. Bring it on

LBSS

January 23rd, 2012 at 10:52 AM ^

wait, so no one else in the B1G, outside us, ohio state and ND has recruited a 5-star? even wisconsin? can someone tell me whether that's normal or not?

dragonchild

January 23rd, 2012 at 10:58 AM ^

Obviously it matters that we're near the top, but I'd rather lose this than the game on the field.  Beyond being in the top 3 or so. . . meh.  NFL scouts KNEW that Ryan Leaf was worthy of a #1 pick in the NFL draft, whereas Tom Brady almost didn't get a job.

Keep in mind that this crew does something RichRod didn't -- they develop players.  By the end of the season, Jake Ryan was a completely different player than when he started.  I'm sure Hoke's crew uses the ratings as a reference, but a 3-star can easily eclipse a 5-star depending on where the ceiling is and how hard he's willing to work to get there.  On the flip side, there's Will Campbell.