Wednesday Presser 10-29-14: Brady Hoke Comment Count

Adam Schnepp

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News bullets and other items:

  • Hoke says what they tell recruits hasn’t changed. Added that most kids are “…going to be committed to what this place has to offer”
  • Hoke thinks that the staff is developing young players and points to guys like Chris Wormley, Kyle Kalis, and Ben Braden as examples
  • Jabrill Peppers is “frustrated” about being unable to play, but Hoke said there’s not a point of no return as far as whether he plays again this season
  • Hoke added that one of the things to consider when discussing a redshirt with a player is whether it looks like they’ll stay four or five years or whether they’ll be gone sooner

Opening remarks:

“Thanks for coming. Obviously it's been a very exciting week with homecoming this weekend. Michigan is such a global University that people all over the world, they pick a game to come back for and a lot of them pick homecoming so that part is exciting, to have them back in Ann Arbor. Another opportunity for us to play at the greatest stadium in this country and play in front of our fans, our families, our students, who I thought with the Penn State game were excellent and really the energy they supplied to the team was great.

“Indiana – obviously we practiced yesterday. We had a good practice. I thought the energy was really good. I know you got to talk to some of the guys afterwards. The competitive nature of our team has not changed. The hard work has not changed and so it's great to be back out on the field because once you start putting in game plans you obviously move quickly from game to game but I thought that's been real positive.
Indiana offensively: Tevin Coleman, Shane Wynn, Stoner – Nick Stoner, the receiver. They've got good playmakers and obviously Colman, with his ability. They've got an offensive line that I think between the two-deep there’s 160 starts, so there's quite a few guys who have a lot of experience. Coleman himself [is] very explosive. I'm sure you've watched him closely but he does a nice job at the point of attack, at the line of scrimmage and he’s explosive off the ball and that part of it is something when you see a lot of long runs, a lot of big plays that he creates.

“It's important for us to do a great job with cupping the ball, leveraging the ball or however you want to call it. That means cutback players, chase-contain players, plug support players being in the right position and having the right fits and getting off blocks from the interior. For us this week it's about getting better and getting better every day we go on the field.”

Obviously when you hired Doug [Nussmeier] you expected a lot more from the offense than you've gotten. What are the things in terms of your evaluation of him you haven't gotten as much or –
“I think he's a tremendous football coach. I think we've had some things not go the way we’d like them to whether it's points, rushing, all those things. I think from when we hired Doug, and I’d say the same thing from [my perspective] right now, he's a great football coach, a great communicator, a great mind.”
Did he tell you that it was going to take longer to-?
“I don't think he knew the personnel as well. I think that's always something, but I think I don't ever see a coach who was not confident in what they can do saying, ‘Well, it's going to take four years or five years,’ something like that. To me you're just setting yourself up for excuses. Doug is very sure of himself and he projects that. I think he's added a lot to our offense and our personality offensively.”
What do you think is the biggest issue with the offense?
“Well, we haven’t blocked it all the time as well as we can. I think we’re a lot better there. I think you can go game by game and probably start with turnovers. The turnover thing is huge in pro football, in college football and so I think that – you don't get drives, all those things.”
[After THE JUMP: Recruiting and Peppers substance-like stuff]

When you look at the passing offense, you guys haven’t passed for over 200 yards in a game yet. What do you have to do to remedy that or what do you have to do in practice to try and fix that?
“Well, and I think that's a good question. Number one, I think the one thing we've done practice-wise is we're doing a lot of ones-on-ones to get that competition and the speed you want to play so that's – I know we do a blitz drill and that's ones-on-ones and I can tell you from being behind the quarterback it can get pretty scary. I'm not scared, but because of the speed of those guys are coming. Justice Hayes, he'll stand up and hit a linebacker in the face and it's really helped us and it's helped us because of the speed of the blitz that you can't simulate. It's like playing a spread team or a tempo team. You don't quite get that simulation during the week and usually with a team like Indiana it'll take a series or two for our defense to get used to the pace a little bit even though we practice at a high pace. So in the passing game routes being cut short, routes not being exactly what we want. Again, we've got to do a good job of catching the football. There's multiple reasons. You could probably go game by game.”


In the summer when we talked you said the staff needs to do a better job of developing the roster. How do you feel that job is being done?
“I think it's being done. I think it really does. When you look at our roster, we had a meeting the other day with the first and second-year players and there's 54 of them and those aren’t counting redshirts. So you look at the guys who’re getting on the field [like] Chris Wormley, I think Kyle Kalis, his development. Guys who are young. Ben Braden. All those guys are young.”
Are you waiting for a leaps from some of these guys now at this point, from the offensive line especially? They've been taking small steps but at some point feel like leaps are needed?
“Well, I think there's some steps that have been taken. I don't know if you want small, big, whatever. I think as a team this team has stayed together and growing together but I also think they're playing like it. You don't practice the way we practice, and again I'll go back to it because you guys, most of you think I'm nuts anyways, but it's amazing to see how they go out every day. It really is.”


Talk about the role of the tight end in your offense. Do you still see that expanding as you continue to progress?
“Well, I think we'd like to and there's times where his number’s called and the quarterback looks another way or he's not in the progression as much, but a tight end is always going to be, especially in this offense – you know, it really hurt when Khalid [Hill] went down. No excuses because everybody has injuries but he was really coming [along]. He was really doing some awfully good things and AJ's [Williams] been banged up a little bit so it's kind of tough there but specific role wise, yeah, we'd like to get them as involved as you can.”

Can you talk about Jabrill’s attitude and state of mind battling through the injury?

“He’s frustrated. He wants to play football. He’s highly competitive. He’s doing really well in school and those kind of things, but he’s competitive.”

With that, Jabrill came in here and we talked to you in the summer [about how] there were going to be expectations on him, fair or not. You say he’s frustrated. How hard has it been for you and him to get through this day-to-day?

“The good thing is our relationship has been built on trust and it’s always been a great relationship so when I see him getting a little frustrated or not happy, whatever you want to call it, I’m going to approach him on it but he’s a competitive guy. [You’re] pretty well thought of coming out of high school and all of a sudden you have two things that set you back. It’s hard. It’s difficult.”

Just wanted to ask you a general question about recruiting. You sort of joked last week on your coach’s show about rumors and are they out there. What are you telling kids or recruits who you’re talking to about committing to the program and sticking with commitments here?

“Well, I don’t think it’s anything that I haven’t said in previous years. We’ve got a great place here. We’ve got, in my opinion, the best university in the country when you look at what it does for you after football. I think the same way, competitiveness from a football standpoint. Most of the kids, they’re going to be committed to what this place has to offer.”

You said the other day about Desmond [Morgan] that it was late in the season and that was part of the reason you made the decision. For Jabrill it’s also late in the season. With that decision do you make it or he makes it or how does that work?

“I would always and always have talked to the young man and counseled with his family and all those things. I don’t think it’s my place to say even when you do it, ‘Okay, we’re not going to redshirt you early in the year.’ I want to make sure the parents, the guardians, whoever that might be, the high school coach; I want them to know that we’ll make a good decision on it and what’s best for Michigan first and then what’s best for that guy.”

What’s the point of no return?

“I don’t know that there is a point of no return. I think the one thing that you look at [is] how good a guy is. Will he be here five years anyway? Would he just be here four years and would he be here three years?”

Can you say how close he is to coming back?

“He’s closer. You know, he’s closer.”

Comments

JamieH

October 29th, 2014 at 6:07 PM ^

"I think we've had some things not go the way we’d like them to whether it's points, rushing, all those things." Yeah, all those things like points. Points are some of the things that haven't gone the way we've like them too." Great analysis coach.

Has ANYTHING on offense gone the "way they wanted to?"  Volume of punts per game maybe? 

cigol

October 29th, 2014 at 6:13 PM ^

I guess pointing to Kalis as an example of player development is the equivalent of pointing to Hoke's track record as an example of program development.

Perhaps with the next coaching search, we can prioritize competence and intelligence above who wants to be here and who loves the university.  I want to coach michigan and I love the university, but I am nowhere fit to run an organization like this program.

funkywolve

October 29th, 2014 at 6:16 PM ^

When 2 of the 3 names he mentions are on probably the worst unit on the team, he's kind of shooting himself in the foot.  It'd be one thing if one or both of Braden and Kalis were kicking ass on the oline, but neither seems to be setting the world on fire.

funkywolve

October 29th, 2014 at 6:27 PM ^

know what Nuss thinks of this staff and what is going on with the program.  Coming from Alabama to this has to be a massive shock to the system for him.

True Blue Grit

October 29th, 2014 at 6:50 PM ^

or listening to.  And I say this relative to whether we're winning or losing.  Hoke has apparently graduated with honors from the School of Coach Speak.  He will never be candid or intuitive with ANYTHING.  So, I've written off paying any attention to his pre-game or post-game comments at this point.  

CoverZero

October 29th, 2014 at 6:51 PM ^

""I think he's added a lot to our offense and our personality offensively.”

Where exactly is Hoke seeing this?  Borges had his flaws, but he was far more effective with this personnel and QB than Nussmeier has been.  This has been a disaster hiring.

PurpleStuff

October 29th, 2014 at 7:06 PM ^

Jeremy Gallon, Taylor Lewan, Mike Schofield, and Fitzgerald Toussaint aren't here this year.  Neither is Roy Roundtree.  Omameh and Denard are starting in the NFL.

This offense stinks because Hoke/Borges didn't know how to build one, not because Nussmeier showed up and started ruining everything with his play-calling.

PurpleStuff

October 29th, 2014 at 7:31 PM ^

Coaches don't make teams good or bad, except through long-term recruiting.  And progress at the margins isn't going to get noticed by most people when the overall product isn't any good. 

Nuss can't make Cole and Braden into Lewan and Schofield.  He can't make Darboh or Chesson into Gallon.  When guys can't block pass rushing defenders and receivers can't get open consistently, the same play calls look a lot different.  Just like Rich Rod's offensive mind was just as strong with Threet/Sheridan as it was with Denard or Pat White or now at Arizona, Nuss is the same guy who was calling the shots at Bama.  The difference is Green/Smith aren't the same as Lacy/Yeldon.

I'm not sure if Nussmeier is doing a good job or just okay or what, but he isn't the reason this offense is where it is.  The difference in results between him doing a great job and a terrible one would be negligible at this point.

PurpleStuff

October 29th, 2014 at 10:13 PM ^

Gallon put up over 2,200 yards as a junior/senior (playing with injured Denard and the same QB Darboh/Chesson have now), broke the single game and single season receiving records at UM, and had 100 yard games against Alabama, South Carolina, Notre Dame, and Ohio State.

Lewan was the two-time B1G lineman of the year and a first round draft pick.

I think this dude is on mushrooms.

PurpleStuff

October 30th, 2014 at 12:34 AM ^

He went 11-2 his first year here.  His coaching didn't make a good team bad.  In fact, lots of people thought he was awesome because the team wasn't as good the year before.  It's only after 3-4 years of recruiting that the team sucks.  In other words, exactly what I said. 

Ron Zook had bad seasons at Illinois, good seasons at Illinois, and mediocre seasons at Illinois.  The record fluctuated because the talent fluctuated.  And they've been worse since he left.  He was 23-14 at Florida (so I don't see how he made them shitty as you seem to think).

Gary Moeller won 6 games his first three (and only) years at Illinois.  He won 28 games his first three years at Michigan.  He didn't get way better at coaching.  Harbaugh posted two losing seasons to start off his tenure at Stanford.  Even the best coaching doesn't make a bad team good or a mediocre team great (he went 8-5 in year three with a good offense and a shitty defense).

 

PurpleStuff

October 30th, 2014 at 11:49 AM ^

Coaches have an impact.  They can get an 8 win team to 9 or 10 wins.  Or get them to 6 or 7.  They can't make a shitty team good or a good team shitty.  Larry Coker and Gene Chizik have won national championships.  Charlie Weis went to multiple BCS bowls.  Do you think they are great coaches?  Harbaugh, Moeller, Frank Beamer, and Rich Rodriguez have all had multiple losing seasons.  Gary Patterson went 4-8 last year.  Are they bad coaches, or did they just somehow do a much worse job of coaching during those seasons than when they posted 10-win seasons?

Coaches also have a huge impact on how good a team is because they recruit the players on it.  That process just takes time.  Harbaugh didn't make Stanford great (and David Shaw didn't continue winning at a high level without him) because of his coaching acumen.  He did it by bringing in guys like Luck, DeCastro, Martin, and a bunch of really good defensive players.  In the same vein, Hoke made Michigan shitty by not signing a QB or a RB in his first class, whiffing on elite offensive linemen, and picking up one effective receiver (who spent half his career here blocking defensive ends) in three classes.  He's not getting dumber every year, the team is just getting less talented as guys like Denard, Gallon, and Lewan graduate.

umchicago

October 30th, 2014 at 5:05 AM ^

borges had perhaps the #! dual threat QB of all time and tried to turn him into tom brady.  and he got worse each year.  ditto for DB who was the #1 dual threat QB in his class.  now, that may be borges or hoke.  but borges should take a lot of blame.  then there is 30 for 30.

nuss on the other hand can't be expected to cure DG.  and i can't really say i'm that disappointed in his play calling.  even against sparty, if the WRs don't drop passes in and around the enzone, UM scores 24+.   nuss ain't the problem; moreso funk.

funkywolve

October 30th, 2014 at 10:06 AM ^

I'd say Nuss has utilized Gardner's legs in the offense even less than Borges did.  Other then QB sneaks and scrambles, do you even need 2 hands to count all of the designed running plays called for Gardner this year?

GoBLUinTX

October 30th, 2014 at 5:44 PM ^

You're seriously suggesting the OL is the reason the receivers aren't catching passes?

But back to Gardner.  The only thing broke on Gardner was his foot and I seem to recall him doing quite well on that broken foot.  Or are you saying DG is some kind of China Doll that can't stand up to the first sign of pressure?  If that's the case, who is the dumbass that keeps sending him back out there?  I mean if you can see he's completely broken down and beyond repair, wouldn't you think Nussmeier could see it as well?  Why, pray tell, do you suppose they've been wasting time on Gardner? 

Do reflect on this for a moment or two.  Two years ago there was this WR and Michigan needed a QB pronto.  Who was it that transformed that WR into a QB and then ran off three consecutive B1G wins?  I don't know what you consider worse each year, but the last year that Borges was coaching Gardner, Gardner set two single game passing records and is now in second place behind Chad Henne for the single season passing record.  2013 also saw Gardner become a top 10 single season completions leader for Michigan.  And that is saying something.  He's behind only John Navarre, Chad Henne, and Tom Brady.  He's also in fourth place for the number of single game completions with 32.  That is really saying something since Tom Brady leads with 34 completions.

I'll grant you that Gardner has been horrible this year, but Borges hasn't coached him a lick since the OSU game when Gardner tossed his 32 completions and tied for 1st place for number of TD passes in a game which helped him to achieve 8th place for TD receptions in a single season with 21. 

CoverZero

October 29th, 2014 at 6:54 PM ^

"You don't practice the way we practice, and again I'll go back to it because you guys, most of you think I'm nuts anyways, but it's amazing to see how they go out every day. It really is.”

1 Part delusional. 1 Part not being hard enough on the players to play up to their potential.  Hoke's expectations from them are obviously low. His acceptance of their low level of play is astounding.

blusage

October 30th, 2014 at 12:28 AM ^

Since he's never coached a championship caliber team, he probably doesn't know what to look for in practices. Coaches who actually eventually win a championship of some sort can look back and accurately the quality of practices and a team's readiness. Since Hoke has never done that, he's clueless -- as his resume suggested. He just doesn't know any better.

991GT3

October 29th, 2014 at 7:37 PM ^

there is no hope he will change. To stand there and say with a straight face his players are being developed clearly demonstrates how out of touch he is. Just about everyone in the football community including Sam Webb have arrived at this conclusion and yet he denies it.

If Brandon is allowed to keep his job so will Hoke. When that happens I am moving on. I don't want anything to do with a University that rather than make tough decisions tables them.

Manbaugh

October 29th, 2014 at 8:13 PM ^

This whole thing is like Baghdad Bob...just absolute spin, and denial. 

I think they feel that if they keep repeating the same thing over and over, eventually it will get better. It is nearly carbon copy of the Lions with Marinelli and Millen. Pound the rock, have to watch film, blah blah blah. 

I've never wished for a football season to end so quickly in my life. This is what it's reduced me, to.

Manbaugh

October 29th, 2014 at 8:13 PM ^

This whole thing is like Baghdad Bob...just absolute spin, and denial. 

I think they feel that if they keep repeating the same thing over and over, eventually it will get better. It is nearly carbon copy of the Lions with Marinelli and Millen. Pound the rock, have to watch film, blah blah blah. 

I've never wished for a football season to end so quickly in my life. This is what it's reduced me, to.

UPMichigan

October 29th, 2014 at 8:33 PM ^

We haven't passed for over 200 yards in one game this year... do we all realize the quarterback holds the record for the most yards in one game in Michigan history (503)?