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Submitted by Brian on February 24th, 2014 at 11:54 AM

2/23/2014 – Michigan 79 – Michigan State 70 – 19-7, 11-3 Big Ten


[Bryan Fuller]

There's a point where you cannot deny the thing you dearly wish was not true. For Michigan football, that moment was a Raymon Taylor interception followed by a negative-yardage drive that sealed loss 5 of 6 at Spartan Stadium last fall. Or maybe it was before that. Maybe it was the collective dread experienced by the fanbase going in. Michigan played Michigan State, and everyone expected to lose.

When they did, and it was worse that anyone could have imagined, any lingering sense of superiority went up like a torch. Michigan ended up dead last in TFLs allowed. Michigan State went from an offense that couldn't get yard one against WMU—one that looked a lot like Michigan's, in fact—to a Big Ten Championship and Rose Bowl win.

Take your Rich Rodriguez excuses, your theories about how it's all about whether Michigan is down or up, and stuff them in the closet. There is only one way to look at Michigan State football: up. The countdown clock is justified.


Michigan now has an opportunity to flip that script in basketball. They've won six of eight in the series. This year they've upset the paradigm of the previous couple years where MSU hammers Michigan at the Breslin Center and Michigan squeaks by at Crisler. They reached near-parity on the boards and just forced MSU to take more threes than twos. Both games featured extended foul-fests after Michigan opened up double-digit leads.

Talk of "closing the gap" is over.

On the RCMB, people complained about how nice Crisler is. For every one guy making rapidly downvoted assertions about how Dawson would have made the difference there were three asserting that Beilein owns Izzo—an assertion a lot of Michigan fans would be skeptical of.

For now. No matter what damage the NBA does to Michigan's roster in the offseason, it's Michigan State who will have to scramble to keep up when Payne, Appling, and Harris exit. Two straight years of recruiting airballs worthy of an unchecked Aaron Craft will do that. Meanwhile, Michigan's picking off Indiana Mr. Basketballs and consensus top-50 players from Oregon. They've got the king of exceeding expectations in the tourney. If Michigan takes care of business down the stretch they will be outright Big Ten Champions, one inch away from a three-peat.

They of course have to avoid the mother of all trap games in Mackey and hold home court against Minnesota and Indiana; they have to perform in the tourney to put the full lockdown on Michigan State's lingering sense of superiority. The opportunity is there.

Meanwhile, Michigan State will keep telling anyone who looks like a reporter about the blister between their toes in just the wrong spot. Appling:

"Those shots that (Nik) Stauskas got off on me, he probably wouldn’t have been able to get off on Branden,” Appling said.

That's the state of the programs, and it comes from the top. One guy flings histrionics back and forth and watches his scrubs woof at Michigan in an attempt to show they're tough. After they lose, they complain about the universe-wide conspiracy against them.

The other guy saves it up for one withering blast and refuses to answer questions about Mitch McGary, because they've moved on. Michigan found themselves in a hole in both of these games and pulled themselves out, because toughness is something other than acting hard because of something someone else did. Michigan State is cordially invited to get off our court. No drama necessary.



FLOOR SLAP WATCHDOG. Once; beginning of first half; Stauskas layup. In fact may have enraged Stauskas to the point where he saw nothing but blood and contested three pointers that were going in anyway because eff you, that's why.

Insofar as the floor slap set the tone, it was for a 45-point second half.

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Three. Michigan won this game because they turned it over three times. With the teams matching each other on offensive rebounds (7; Michigan had more opportunities and thus slightly lost the board war) and MSU suffering 13 turnovers, that translated into ten extra shots via which Michigan won the game despite allowing MSU to shoot 68%/38%.

In fact, you probably remember all three:

  1. Shot clock violation in the first half.
  2. Twenty minutes of game time later, Stauskas throws a pass to the roll guy out of bounds. Camera cuts to Beilein, who smiles.
  3. Michigan is breaking four on two up 12 when Harris intercepts a Stauskas pass, thus preventing the Crisler roof from coming off.

That's it. MSU's not their vintage selves in the TO forcing department (sixth in the league) but three is ridiculously low. Michigan was just on the other end of that in a loss to Wisconsin featuring two Badger turnovers.

"They just wanted it more." I've seen a couple of MSU reporters deploy this cliché in the aftermath. While that assertion is always some guy with a parrot head substituting repetition for thought, in this case it's even dumber than usual. Adriean Payne afterwards:

[UPDATE: Video was taken down. It was Payne very near to tears]

That ripped him to his core. Talking about "wanting it more" is always vaguely insulting; here it is explicitly so.

Seriously though. I don't want any Payne-oriented roughhousing in the comments about that. That is exactly how you want the guy to react both as a Michigan State fan and as a Michigan fan. Think about Junior Hemingway after the Sugar Bowl. That kind of reaction is 80% of why college sports is more compelling than Ask Me About My Dreams pro sports.

I mean, we taunt the floor-slapping but there's no pro team that would do something so dorky and tauntable because they're too cool for school. As always, the rule here is that spiciness wins and should be encouraged. Payne above is a level above spiciness, into deep haunt-your-ass hurt, and I respect that.

Y'all be outside. Payne posted up successfully one time in this game. And I'm not talking about making a shot; I'm talking about taking one. Payne had one post shot, a miss that drew a legit foul on Horford. Morgan and Horford spent every bit of energy they had denying, denying, denying, and with the occasional double forcing Payne to pick up his dribble they shut off the post defense implosion suffered against the Badgers.

Michigan started playing no-threes defense with two minutes to go; before that MSU's shot breakdown stood at 20 twos to 21 threes. Michigan took 35 twos, 19 threes. That plus the rebounding draws in both games are a massive departure from the Payne/Nix-era Spartans, who were guaranteed to annihilate Michigan on the boards and launch a ton of shots from the post.

That's not likely to change in the near future, as Payne exits without a suitably intimidating replacement and Michigan acquires the services of a bonafide post-sized stretch four in Mark Donnal. Dawson makes some difference but as noted before the first matchup, MSU was only a middling OREB team this year when the stats were mostly a Dawson+Payne MSU outfit.

If McGary comes back, Michigan could have an advantage in interior burliness, as impossible as that sounds.



Make 'em say unh. I thought about Tim Hardaway Jr's assertion in January early in this game:

'Don’t give him a week to prepare for you because you will lose'

Michigan finally had some time to rest, recuperate, and plan for the heavy perimeter ball-denial that had largely neutralized Nik Stauskas for the past month. They came out with a bunch of back-cuts and down-screens for their posts; Stauskas got a dunk off one and had Harris beat a few other times in the first five minutes; Harris started playing Stauskas far more cautiously and Michigan got into their regular Stauskas-led offense. Ball denial: denied.

On rewatch I was surprised by how the game felt even as MSU extended to an eleven point lead early. Michigan's offense was getting great shots that just weren't going down. MSU was relying on Denzel Valentine hitting jumpers, which worked by sheer bloody chance.

Make 'em say unh, part 2. Stauskas had 25 points on 16 shot equivalents and five assists. His makes from three were all ACK NO YES shots off the bounce with Appling in the vicinity, but he was also 6/8 from inside the arc and drew some free throws. Even some of the questionable long shots had more upset than it might have seemed at the time: on one launch off a pick and roll early in the second half Michigan grabbed an offensive rebound because it was two on one down low after Payne attempted to contest.

Michigan showed a way forward for their ridiculously efficient offense in this one after a tough period. Sustaining that through the end of the season will be encouraging when it comes to tourney time; they added the constraint plays to their base offense.

Dribbles are bad. Glenn Robinson started the game with an ugly long two that bricked, missed all three of his three-pointers just as badly, and was 3/7 from the line. This would be another ARGH GRIII game except for the fact that he was 6/8 on his other shots, largely because those shots came without dribbles.

There was one catch and insta-drive on Russell Byrd, who's probably still hitting himself while repeating "stupid, stupid, STUPID," as we speak. There may have been a power dribble under the bucket after one of Michigan's down screens got him position just outside of the charge circle. Those conclude Dribbles Leading To GRIII Offense.

And lo, it was as it should be. Walton and Stauskas and LeVert found him for dunks or quick layups, and if he'd just hit an open three or convert from the line as he usually does he's at a quiet 20, if such a thing exists.

The week off got Michigan back on that old time Beilein religion, what with the back cuts and guys popping up at the bucket uncontested. Robinson got back in his flush monster mode that he was so prolific in with Trey last year.

Hail Plastic Man. Michigan got through Gauntlet #2 2-2 thanks in no small part to Caris LeVert, who cracked 20 points in three of the four games. In the other he had 9 points, 5 boards, and two assists against zero TOs in the OSU win. He's not quite as efficient as Stauskas because he's not getting to the line or rim as much, but, like, wait a week and he'll be better. At his current rate of improvement he will escape containment and level Tokyo by 2016.

"Would you like to hear my one-man-show version of Les Miz?"


"Maybe later, Jon. Maybe later." [Fuller]

Meanwhile, on the other end of the floor. GRIII's defense was… not good. Schilling got two run-out baskets on which it seemed like maybe Stauskas was doing bad things; on both Schilling simply out-ran Robinson down the floor. On a couple of pick and roll possession he did things like stick to Russell Byrd instead of taking away the easy interior bucket. Walton had a couple of similar errors that irritated, but he is a freshman and Robinson is not.

He was a huge problem in transition and was fortunate that he wasn't trying to check a Dekker in this game. I'm still pretty frustrated with him overall.

"Makeup" call. The sequence where Jordan Morgan took a backcourt charge only to get a ludicrous blocking foul followed by a moving screen on Gavin Schilling looked like a clear makeup call, but on review the previous MSU possession had featured another blatant Schilling moving screen that got Harris an open look from three that he canned. That call was coming either way. The Morgan thing was just the usual vast incompetence. Izzo's reaction was everyone's, but really they just blew it.

The thing about rewatching these games in detail is that for every call you thought was bad live that replay suggests was legit or at least close there are 1.2 things you missed live that are just terrible.

But! Michigan State got away with an extended hand-check in the first few minutes by Valentine on Caris LeVert that I hollered about and then fretted about, fearing a reprise of the clutchy-grabby that prevailed at the Breslin Center. A couple minutes later, Costello got his second for bumping GRIII off a cut; Appling got a perimeter foul for grabbing Stauskas on a cut; Valentine got called for another extensive hand check sequence. Raftery marked each one by saying "nickel dimer"; hail nickel dimers.

I hope that was something other than calling the game the way the home team wants it.

1-3-1. Michigan deployed to excellent effect, not only in the second half but for a critical possession in the first. Appling ran over Jordan Morgan, picking up his second foul and heading to the bench for the next ten minutes. Izzo would moan about it afterwards in his press conference. Of course, if MSU didn't have to learn that they couldn't do various illegal basketball things that would have been one on Appling.

Damn you, Tim Miles! If you did not exist, John Beilein would be Big Ten coach of the year in a walk. Instead it is you in a walk.

For the love of pants. Would someone please run Tom Izzo over?


That's two points just begging to be taken.

"It must be really awkward when your dad says things about Aaron Craft."


"Naw, it's cool." [Fuller]

WHAT DOES JORDAN MORGAN HAVE TO DO. I just don't know, man. A detailed rewatch made it very clear that Payne got a couple of superstar calls on drives by LeVert that would have been fouls on any other post-type substance; meanwhile, Morgan gets his customary dual phantom blocking fouls. One led to a Kaminski three-point play, the other was made up on the other end, except not really.

Morgan is the Rodney Dangerfield of the Big Ten.



February 24th, 2014 at 1:47 PM ^

If he continues this level of play into the tournament, and if he's really projected by league scouts as a definite first-rounder even in this deep draft, I think he goes. Wouldn't blame him, either -- the things he still needs to improve, particularly his athleticism, aren't something that he'll improve with another year of college ball.


February 24th, 2014 at 12:34 PM ^

Michigan up to 16 in the Coaches Poll (Michigan State is 18).   The 4 teams on the 4 line in the coaches poll?  San Diego State, Wisconsin, Kentucky and Michigan.  I would not like to be a one seed with those teams as potential four seeds....


February 24th, 2014 at 12:34 PM ^

 I think we saw how the coaches will stop the small guard shutting down Nik. In half court sets put him on the top of the key to run pick and rolls. There is no way the defender can go under that screen with Nik's shooting ability. If he's late getting over it Nik has the lane to drive and if they switch Nik finds the open man. GO Blue


February 24th, 2014 at 1:35 PM ^

since that (high pick for Nik) was our primary offensive set already, it doesn't really explain what went wrong and why (we hope) it is now fixed.  I'd suggest it has to do with tweaks installed by the coaches, and Nik learning to play through it.


February 24th, 2014 at 2:13 PM ^

What we used to do with Nik was a ball screen where he is dribbling around a pick.  The quick guards are countering this. What UofM did vs. MSU to counter was to run Stauskas off screens WITHOUT the ball.  it forced Harris to run around more and get tired.  That combined with the back cuts that Stauskas had early on were pretty effective.

But by half time, LeVert was going off and Izzo was in a quandry.  So he moved Harris over to shut down Caris.  That allowed Stauskas to shoot over the smaller Appling. 

Going forward we will probably see a blend of the two approaches.  I think screening Stauskas without the ball is necessary.  However, Stauskas might play "catch and shoot" over Yogi Ferrel next time they play. 

The smaller, quicker guards still take away Stauskas' ability to dribble/drive so he becomes a "catch and shoot" player.


February 24th, 2014 at 12:35 PM ^

Coach of the Year awards always pretty much always go to the coach with low expectations who rises above them or to Tom Izzo.  Beilein probably deserved to win in 2011 or 2012, but 2012 was an Izzo year and in 2011 they gave it to Matt Painter; presumably, he rose further above similar expectations. The last time a Michigan coach won CoY?  1985, Bill Frieder.

I think Beilein should be Coach of the Year, but if Tim Miles gets it, I won't complain.  If it's anybody else, though...

El Jeffe

February 24th, 2014 at 12:41 PM ^

What? Izzo is like a cross between Mother Theresa and Sherman T. Potter with how he's tending to the wounded, crippled, maimed, syphilitic, and necrotic roster that is MSU's 2013-2014 basketball team.

Or let's say this: Miles/Beilein for CoY, Izzo for beatification. Fair enough?


February 24th, 2014 at 3:41 PM ^

I think you've made this comparison before. It's not like it's the be all, end all, but your failure to see the difference between our game at Iowa and Nebraska's game on our court is perplexing. Those games were qualitatively different. 

We also swept the season series against Nebraska. Again, qualitative difference. 

And if the season ended today, McCaffrey's team would not be the conference winner, so again, failure to recognize qualitative differences. 

The season does not end today and we have serious work to do, but if we bring it home, Beilein doing this without McGary = coach of the year, hands down. 

Maison Bleue

February 24th, 2014 at 1:59 PM ^

FLOOR SLAP WATCHDOGOnce; beginning of first half; Stauskas layup.

I think it was the first possesion of the second half.

You would think with the Universe against them and all, Staee would want to keep their hands/fists away from hard wooden inanimate objects. 

Also, Dakich mock slaps the floor right after the layup... priceless.


February 24th, 2014 at 12:44 PM ^

One big reason I think Morgan doesnt get the charge as frequently as he probably should is because of the relative paucity of fouls on Michigan overall.  Refs like to keep calls even if they can and Morgan certainly presents them ample opportunity to even things up without causing much of a fuss given the bang-bang nature of the play itself.  I'll bet you that if Michigan was a team that fouled more in genreal he'd probably get that call more often than not.  It's just hard, I think for the refs to mentally justify calling yet ANOTHER foul on the opposing team when we generally have so few.

I think it's just simple human nature at work.


February 24th, 2014 at 12:48 PM ^

Furthermore, we'd love it when he ran around on the floor redirecting Stauskas (I do think we'd dislike the floor slapping).  That said, I think at this point we have the better coach because Beilein's system allows him to recruit "guys who fit" as well as the 50 or top 20 HS players. 

As for Izzo, maybe he should campaign again to coach the FB team.

Franz Schubert

February 24th, 2014 at 12:58 PM ^

The bottom 3 teams in the conference are PSU,Illinois and NW and UM only played each of them once. Our 4th single play was on the road in Columbus. If MSU had played the toughest schedule it would be mentioned constantly by Izzo and the media and yet I have not heard Beilein mention it at all.


February 24th, 2014 at 1:00 PM ^

Agree that the "They wanted it more" analysis is usually dubious, but I did think we seemed to have more energy down the stretch.  Actually, that seemed to be the case in East Lansing as well.  MSU's players seemed gassed at the end of both games.  It's curious given that we have the shorter bench.



February 24th, 2014 at 1:07 PM ^

Yes, we had a week, but I think it's long past time for Sanderson to get a ton of credit for doing a heck of a job with these kids. 

The kids have to want to do the work, the team/the program has to have the collective commitment, but Sanderson is definitely making great use of the time the kids put in. 


February 24th, 2014 at 1:11 PM ^

Holy shit Verne Lundquist got fat.  I mean -- WOW!  (do you see what I just did there?)

God please tell me that we get back two of McGary, Stauskas, and Robinson.  We'll sweep them again next year if that's the case.  Five in a row and 8 out of 10.  I wanna see it. 

It's so nice to be on this side of the equation for the first time in forever.  Watching our dominance of OSU evaporate last decade was incredibly depressing, and I imagine that's how Sparty fans must feel right now.  They are staring right now at the possibility of a pretty substantial losing streak to Michigan. 


February 24th, 2014 at 1:21 PM ^

You could be right, but I'm afraid to make that prediction.  An Izzo team finishing below .500 in the Big Ten seems unthinkable. 

But if things keep going in that direction, I want to see a bloodbath in Crisler next year.  I still remember the 2000 game at Breslin with the Spartan starters jacking up threes late in the game, up by 40+ points.


February 24th, 2014 at 1:06 PM ^

If we win our last four games, then I don't care what Nebraska does.  Beilien should get COY.  15-3 is as much an exceedance of expectations as 10-8 or 9-9 would be for Nebraska, and winning the Big Ten should mean something too. 


February 24th, 2014 at 1:10 PM ^

Although Michigan basketball has taken over MSU bball, there remains a big difference with the football comparison.  MSU has indeed handled us recently, but we're building a stockpile of talent (while their recruiting was down until this year...even though it still wasn't great this year).  State's basketball team hasn't been bringing in those recruits and, indeed, they're losing the star players.  Based on talent  of incoming and departing players (and not "coaching up" and/or PED's), Michigan is rising in both football and bball while State is declining in both.


February 24th, 2014 at 1:14 PM ^

Jordan Morgan will never get a charge called at 3/4 court no matter how set he is or how hard somebody plows into him. Refs will call that a block. Always have, always will.