Upon Further Review 2013: Defense vs Indiana Comment Count

Brian

FORMATION NOTES: Michigan spent every snap in their nickel. This was fairly typical.

shotgun-two-back-triangle

That also shows what I called "shotgun triangle" for IU. Wynn is lined up in the backfield behind the QB, but it's shotgun depth, not pistol. Wynn would always motion out after a hand-wave from the QB; this was always a decoy.

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Michigan did show a few okie packages. This is Okie two; I designate them by the number of safeties.

SUBSTITUTION NOTES: Boatloads. Avery went back to safety and spotted Gordon and Wilson from time to time. This led to a lot of Stribling and Lewis, as Michigan played every snap in their nickel. Countess and Taylor did not leave the field, IIRC.

At linebacker the usual Ross/Morgan/Bolden rotation saw Ben Gedeon join. The line was the usual profusion of bodies. Clark or Ojemudia was usually one end with one of Beyer/Ryan/CGordon the other. On the interior, Washington, Black, Wormley, Henry and Heitzman seemed to split snaps almost evenly. Glasgow also got in some.

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Ln Dn Ds O Form D Form Type Rush Play Player Yards
O25 1 10 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel over Pass 4 PA rollout hitch Taylor 6
M line and linebackers react to the PA fake, so the corner's open. Sudfeld has his choice of WRs, picks hitch that Taylor(-0.5, cover -1) is playing soft on and makes a bad throw to pull the guy upfield. RPS -1; no pressure seemed schematic to me.
O31 2 4 Shotgun trips Nickel over Pass 4 Flash screen Countess 1
Instant jet tempo with a big trips w/ TE to boundary. Countess(+1) reacts, takes cut block, stays on his feet, delays Wynn. Taylor(+1) also kept his feet after a cut and forces out. RPS +1.
O32 3 3 Shotgun 4-wide Nickel over Pass 4 Out Ross Inc
M shows corner blitz, IU checks to sideline. M keeps their blitz on. IU slides line and cut blocks the rush, looking for a TE out against man coverage they know is coming. Open, Sudfeld misses. Ross in coverage but didn't have much chance after aligning inside. RPS –1, cover –1.
Drive Notes: Punt, 0-0, 14 min 1st Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form D Form Type Rush Play Player Yards
O28 1 10 Pistol trips TE Nickel even Run N/A Zone stretch Bolden 4
Ross sent on a blitz and M slants to the playside; Bolden(-2) runs himself out of the play entirely; he's going so hard to the playside that it seems like he's the force guy but that would be really weird. Black(+0.5) gets a lot of penetration to force it behind him; Wormley(-0.5) is flowing behind and gets creased, albeit narrowly. Ross(+2, tackling +2) makes a terrific play to run around the backside and make a leaping tackle from behind as the back hits the LOS. Lot of space otherwise.
O32 2 6 Shotgun 4-wide Nickel over Run N/A Inside zone Bolden 4
Sudfeld looks like he's reading the end but they block him anyway so probably just a straight handoff. C goes for Ross; Bolden unblocked. RB picking between hole between Henry and end or further inside, gives nice outside-in fake that sucks Bolden(-1) into the outer gap as he takes the inner one; Henry(+0.5) and Wormley(+0.5) compress to tackle, pile falls forward as the momentum is with the three IU guys instead of the M two.
O36 3 2 Pistol 4-wide Nickel over Pass 3 Hitch Stribling 5
RB bugs out before snap; Sudfeld reads a few hitches before he finds the one he likes. Pressure -1; both Bolden and CGordon chased the RB to the flat. One of those guys was probably wrong. Stribling already in BTW.
O41 1 10 Shotgun 4-wide Nickel over? Pass 5 Fly Taylor 59
Michigan way late, not even set on the line; Taylor is trying to get a call on the snap and is clearly sitting in a zone coverage instead of turning and running as he would with man. Dude open by yards, touchdown, RPS -4, cover -4, not sure what to do with individual minuses. FWIW, Countess blitzed off the corner and the playside S was TGordon, not Wilson. I guess this is probably Taylor(-2), but going light because this is an RPS issue.
Drive Notes: Touchdown, 0-7, 10 min 1st Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form D Form Type Rush Play Player Yards
O25 1 10 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel over Pass 4 PA slant Taylor 14
Pop pass. Taylor(+0.5, cover +1, tackling -1) makes life here pretty difficult, almost getting a PBU but not quite able to secure a tackle after he misses that. I'll take that aggression; you get off the field by creating zero plays.
O39 1 10 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel over? Pass 4 Comeback Stribling Inc
Pressure(-1) bleah; this is open-ish for a good throw with Stribling in push coverage. Sudfeld turfs it.
O39 2 10 Shotgun 3-wide 3-3-5 nickel Run N/A Trap Clark 5
M shows 30 front and LB blitz with Beyer standing up over the TE. IU checks, M backs out of all out blitz. IU traps Clark(-0.5) who gets upfield and kicked out, leaving an absolute ton of room for Bolden to shut down by himself. Black(-1) also ripped upfield. Bolden does what he can, which is make a diving tackle on the RB as he passes. RPS -1; DL here was Heitzman/Black/Clark/Beyer, asking for it.
O44 3 5 Pistol 4-wide Nickel even Pass 6 Out Taylor Inc
M shows blitz, check. M runs blitz after check, argh. All cuts again, M in zone behind their blitz; Taylor(+2, cover +2) roars up to blast the TE as he turns upfield after a catch. Well-earned PBU.
Drive Notes: Punt, 7-7, 7 min 1st Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form D Form Type Rush Play Player Yards
O25 1 10 Pistol 3-wide Nickel over Run N/A Power O Heitzman 3
Ojemudia(-1) gets blown too far outside, opening up a big window. Heitzman(+2) fights through a poorly-executed double and makes a diving ankle tackle that trips the back up. Do feel like I want Ross(-0.5) to take this on a little more outside but hard to tell; Morgan(-0.5) does not read the guard pull and jet for the hole. Taylor(+0.5) read fast as was there if the Heitzman tackle didn't take.
O28 2 7 Shotgun 2-back 3-3-5 nickel Run N/A Inside zone Heitzman 6
TE almost in line with the QB, so I'll call it two back. M shows a 3-3-5 look, slanting playside and sending Morgan as fourth DL. Countess also comes down off the slot. Heitzman(-1) gets pushed past his gap, providing a cutback lane. Morgan(-1) rushes up hard and gets planted by the TE coming backside. That's a gap; Countess(+0.5) shuts it down as the back nears the first down.
O34 3 1 Pistol 3-wide Nickel over Run N/A Power O Heitzman 3
M sends the linebackers, with Ross shooting the backside gap and Morgan going frontside. Heitzman(-0.5) gives up too much ground to a double. Morgan(+1) executes, getting into the backfield and bouncing off a G lead block to tackle; Ross can't quite come around the backside to grab the back and he can slam up the back of the guys blocking Heitzman for the first. RPS push as the excellent blitz is offset by M getting stuck with no NTs on the field and playing an SDE at NT.
O37 1 10 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel over Pass 4 Hitch Ojemudia 6 (Pen +5)
Instant snap results in an all-around push six-yard hitch but also gets Ojemudia(-1, RPS -1) lined up offsides.
O42 1 5 Shotgun 4-wide Nickel over Run N/A Inside zone Henry 3
Gedeon at MLB. Wormley blows the backside G back, but I think he needs to go a little less vertical. Henry(+1) takes a momentary double that shoves him into what looks like a sealed position but then shoves the other G away and sheds into the hole as the RB gets there, initiating a tackle. An unblocked Ross comes into help; Gedeon(+0.5) did a good job to come under the OL and also assist.
O45 2 2 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel even Run N/A Zone stretch Henry 0
Henry(+1) fires out to the playside hard, making it impossible to scoop him; playside G has to stay the whole time just to keep him in check at the LOS; this will allow Gedeon to flow to the hole unimpeded even if the back doesn't trip. Net result is about the same. CGordon(+1) also did a good job to set the edge and then come back down. Ross(+0.5) beat a block to the outside; this is just well played in general.
O45 3 2 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel even Pass 5 Fly Taylor Inc
Michigan in man free. Less dumb on film than it looked live from Taylor(+2, cover +2), who is step for step with his guy and gets his head around late only a fraction after he should. Sudfeld leaves it short, Taylor gets a PBU and may have had a shot to intercept if the WR doesn't slow up and knock him off balance.
Drive Notes: Punt, 14-7, 2 min 1st Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form D Form Type Rush Play Player Yards
O25 1 10 Shotgun two-back triangle Nickel over Run N/A QB power Ryan 4
Roberson in and will remain in for most of the remainder. He waves Wynn in motion from a position right behind him before the snap; IU runs a zone stretch with the QB. Washington goes upfield and the C steps around him for a reach, but the entire line has stepped left so that's his assignment. Glasgow also goes left, Clark ends up hanging out unblocked on the edge away from the play. The LBs flow to the gap between but IU actually has three blockers for those two guys and they're screwed no matter how they play it. Ryan(+1) makes a nice play to come off his kickout block and tackle from behind after Morgan(+1) manages to make a pile a yard downfield; occupied two guys there. RPS -2; this could have been 20 yards without anyone getting a minus here.
O29 2 6 Ace 3-wide Okie two Pass 5 Dig Stribling Inc
Four-man umbrella with seven guys at the LOS. IU checks. M runs man free with Countess moving up on Wynn on a wheel and Stribling trying to check Hughes on a dig; dig comes open(Stribling -0.5, cover -1) and is probably a ten yard completion but Roberson turfs it. Five man rush picked up (pressure -2).
O29 3 6 Shotgun trips TE Nickel 4-3 even Pass 5 Sack Morgan -9
Wilson rolled down as a WLB, blitzes along with Morgan as Black occupies and then drops into a short spy zone. Indiana blows their protection, leaving both blitzers against the back. Morgan(+1, pressure +3, blitz) is unblocked up the middle; Wilson(+1) gets outside and upfield of that back; Ryan(+0.5) and Ojemudia(+0.5) are upfield in good position to pen Roberson in; he just eats a sack. RPS +2.
Drive Notes: Punt, 14-7, 11 min 2nd Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form D Form Type Rush Play Player Yards
O43 1 10 Shotgun trips Nickel over Pass N/A In Stribling 11
Good protection, IU runs a pick route that gets two DBs to run into each other. Five yard gain gets some YAC. (Pressure -1, RPS –1, Cover -1)
M46 1 10 Shotgun 4-wide? Nickel even? Pass 4 PA rollout deep hitch Stribling Inc
Shot of bench, come back to play in progress. Looks like a fake jet PA rollout. Black(+0.5) comes through to pressure from the inside; Ojemudia(-1) gets locked out by a TE and tries inside, lots of time. (Pressure -2). Stribling(-0.5) is in coverage on the sideline and leaves it to come up on the QB, who throws as he crosses the LOS. WR stepped OOB.
M46 2 10 Shotgun 3-wide 3-3-5 nickel Pass 5 Comeback Taylor 13
30 front with Beyer in a two point stance may tip blitz; M blitzes. IU does not pick up on it. Two guys for Heitzman, free run for Bolden(+1, pressure +3, blitz), he nails Roberson on his throw. It's a wobbly and slow as a result, Taylor(-1, cover +1) jumps it and should intercept, somehow through his hands, completion, bleah. RPS +1; blitz should have gotten a result here.
M33 1 10 Shotgun trips 3-3-5 nickel Pass 5 Rollout seam Wilson 33
PSU rolls away from pressure; Clark(+0.5) does cut off the outside and Bolden beats a block to hit Roberson just as he throws (pressure +1, organic). Despite that throw is right on the money to a 5'7” guy 30 yards downfield. Wilson(-2, cover -2) is in a center field zone but he's running to it on the snap and has a long way to go; still, he flattens out too much here and may have a play on the ball if heads for the five instead of the ten. Probably not though. Hard to tell about the coverage with the singularly useless BTN field-level replays. Wilson did line up on the opposite hash from a seam route at the numbers. RPS –2.
Drive Notes: Touchdown, 21-14, 6 min 2nd Q. IU's next drive starts with 33 seconds left in the half.
Ln Dn Ds O Form D Form Type Rush Play Player Yards
O32 1 10 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel even Run N/A Zone read keeper CGordon 14
Cumong man. Gordon(-2) crashes down on an inside zone, getting cut to the ground, Ross(-1) probably isn't expecting the ball to pop out but is late recognizing. Easy first down.
O46 1 10 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel even Pass 4 Drag Ross Inc
IU gets the snap off three second after it's set for play and I'm just like can I have your two minute drill yo. Lot of time(pressure -1); coverage(+3) very good and Roberson has to check down after using a bit of clock. WR drops it. DL did rescue it a bit by forcing Roberson to move around some.
O46 2 10 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel even Run N/A Inside zone Wormley 10
Wormley(-1) gets blown out by a double; normally -2 but with 17 seconds in the half more understandable. Henry(+1) fought through his double to force a cutback away from blocking so Morgan(+0.5, tackling +1) can stand the back up after about six yards. At this point Wormley contacts from behind, followed shortly by three IU OL, and the pile lurches forward another four, at the cost of six seconds. I'll take that trade for M.
M44 1 10 Shotgun trips Prevent Pass 3 TE out Lewis 11
M puts three guys in the endzone, which is goofy. IU has eight seconds and two timeouts, they can easily get another play in. TE out against Jourdan Lewis playing soft is complete, FG range. RPS -1.
Drive Notes: FG(50), 28-17, EOH.
Ln Dn Ds O Form D Form Type Rush Play Player Yards
M5 1 G Shotgun trips TE Nickel over Run N/A QB zone Clark 3
M shows cover zero and sends their LBs; IU tries to run off tackle; inside zone blocking but it seems like the target point is outside. Anyway, RB heads off tackle, QB headed there from snap. Looks like a TD for a moment; Clark(+1) fights through a block from the LT to flow down the line; TGordon(+1) gets upfield of the guy trying to block him and the two combine to tackle.
M2 2 G Shotgun trips TE Nickel over Pass 4 Corner Countess Inc
Sudfeld in. Try Wynn on a corner route; he catches it for a moment before Countess(+2, cover +2) executes shoryuken, jamming his hand up through the facemask of Wynn and knocking the ball out.
M2 3 G Shotgun trips TE Nickel over Run N/A Inside zone Clark 2
M overloads to TE side and sends Wilson off the edge; Clark, further inside, also unblocked. Wilson goes for QB; Clark(-3) goes for QB. With DL crashing hard to the other side of the play and Ross and Gordon the two guys trying to hold up on the backside, the TD is easy once that happens. Black(-1) did get blown out in a bad way. RPS +1; this should have been a stop.
Drive Notes: Touchdown, 28-24, 13 min 3rd Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form D Form Type Rush Play Player Yards
O29 1 10 Shotgun trips Nickel over Run N/A Zone stretch Black 20
M shades Bolden over the slot, leaving Ross the only LB with a prayer of doing anything about this so once Black(-2) gets creased by a scoop block it's a big gain. RPS -2.
O49 1 10 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel even Pass 4 Throwaway Beyer Inc
First read covered(+1); at that point pressure(+1) comes through sort of as Beyer(+0.5) threatens the edge and Clark and Black start threatening. Stribling(+0.5) makes a dumpoff unattractive(another cover +1); Roberson pumps and tosses it away.
O49 2 10 Pistol 3-wide Nickel under Pass 4 Hitch Stribling 26
M shows blitz a little, creeping Ross to the line and Wilson down; IU busts as Ross goes and Beyer drops off, with no one taking Clark(pressure +3, RPS +1); Roberson does have a quick hitch for a few yards that Stribling(-2, tackling -2) turns into a big gain by missing a tackle on a stationary WR.
O23 1 10 Shotgun 4-wide Nickel over Pass N/A Flash screen Wilson 9
M walks Wilson over the TE and has two on one to the boundary here so this should be pretty easy to stop. Wilson(-2, tackling -2) gets way far upfield and misses the tackle. Stribling's taking on a TE and gets into him around the LOS, cutting off the outside and delaying the WR significantly. Then physics takes over and he starts moving backwards. IU WR keeps his feet, and despite this taking forever he can eventually run up the sideline. Bolden(-1) turns this business from five yards into a near first down with a lackadaisical jog to the sideline.
O14 2 1 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel over Pass 5 Corner Countess Inc
Countess(+1, cover +1) in good position right on the back of the WR and has a play on anything but a perfect throw. This is basically perfect, and it seems like Countess still bothers it, resulting in a drop. Ross(+1, pressure +1, organic) was sent, beat a RB block, and was about to hit the QB.
O14 3 1 Shotgun 2-back triangle Nickel over Run N/A Zone read keeper TGordon 6
TGordon(-1, tackling -1) put in space against Roberson and can't even touch him. CGordon(-1) created problems as he gets instantly pancaked on his slant, which created a lot of space and acted as a weak cut block on Bolden(-1) that got him out of the play.
O8 1 G Shotgun 4-wide 5-1 nickel Run N/A Inside zone Bolden 3
30 front with Morgan only ILB. He blitzes as Bolden, lined up outside of Glasgow, folds back. M slanting, Clark(+0.5) and Washington(+0.5) both occupy two guys, no one releases, Bolden folds right back into the gap where RB is attacking and tackles.
O5 2 G Shotgun 3-wide Nickel over Pass 4 Out Countess 5
CGordon(+2, pressure +2) zips around the RT and is into sack if M can cover a second longer; they can't as Michigan has Stribling and Countess on the outside WRs with Gordon also there. Stribling is sinking on a corner route as Wynn goes to the front of th endzone at the sideline, with no one else in the area. Looks like it's got to be Countess(-3, cover -3) as Stribling covering the Wynn route means wide open in the back of the endzone. RPS –1; tempo'd.
Drive Notes: Touchdown, 35-31, 9 min 3rd Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form D Form Type Rush Play Player Yards
O33 1 10 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel over Pass 4 Throwaway Ryan Inc
Hurrah Jake Ryan chaos play! Ryan(+2, pressure +2, organic) left unblocked as IU goes with a zone read PA, hoping to pick him up with the tight end. Ryan momentarily thinks he needs to go inside, then shoots upfield at Roberson with velocity, almost sacking; Roberson manages to evade and just chucks it away.
O33 2 10 Shotgun trips 3-3-5 nickel Pass 5 Scramble Ross 1
M not set at the snap as the three DL are still getting into position. Ryan(+0.5, cover +1) drops into a hitch that's the first read. A hole appears to form, so Roberson decides to take off. Ross(+1, tackling +1) is blitzing, reads the scramble, and makes an ankle tackle.
O34 3 9 Shotgun 3-wide Okie two Pass 4 Slant Taylor 11
IU check moves back into the backfield from a wide spot. M sends four; Roberson fits a slant in a tiny window between Black(+0.5) and Taylor(+1, cover +1), who has a swat at the ball and almost breaks this up. SYGB.
O45 1 10 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel over Pass 4 Fly Lewis 32
Seven man protection; no one near QB(pressure -2). Lewis(+1, cover +1) has got to be thinking YOU'RE KIDDING ME, RIGHT after this one, a ball dropped in just over his head as he's running in the WR's chest that he can't quite break up until after the WR hits the ground outside and he finally rakes it out.
O13 1 10 Shotgun trips Nickel over slide Run QB zone Avery 3
M slides Ross over a TE in the slot and brings down Avery. IU again goes QB zone aiming outside the tackle with the RB leading. Avery(+0.5) blitzes, getting upfield of a tackle and forcing it back inside. Bolden is headed for the outside hard with an OL chasing him; Roberson cuts it back. Henry(+0.5) has driven his guy back along the line, making the crease small and the cut difficult. Roberson starts to trip a bit; Wormley(+0.5) avoided a cut and flowed down the line to finish the play.
O10 2 7 Pistol 3-wide Nickel over Run N/A Zone stretch Wormley 4
Wormley(+1) is doubled and they attempt to seal him; they can't. He gives a little ground but gets to the hole; Ojemudia(+0.5) also helps close it down. Cutback required. Back bangs into guy blocking Wormley and Henry(+0.5) finishes the play.
O6 3 3 Shotgun 4-wide Nickel even Pass 4 Fade Taylor Inc
Useless BTN, etc. Live this looked like it could have been interference, still hard to tell. Taylor really, really jammed his guy off the line and by the time the ball is in the air his helmet is literally in the chest of the WR. He's not using his arms to hold the guy though and Latimer throws him away in an attempt to catch that ends up futile. Think it's legit, so that's pretty awesome coverage(+2, cover +2).
Drive Notes: FG(23), 35-34, 6 min 3rd Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form D Form Type Rush Play Player Yards
O17 1 10 Shotgun trips TE Nickel even Pass 4 Flare Countess 6
Bubble action with Indiana looking to get deeper passes when M reacts. Countess(+0.5) and Gedeon(+0.5) drop into the desired zones, so Roberson dumps it to the bubble guy at the sidelines. This should be no gain with Countess(-2, tackling -2) coming up with the sideline as a buddy but Countess attacks after first breaking down and whiffs.
O23 2 4 Shotgun trips TE Nickel even Pass 4 Out Countess 7
M barely set on the snap. IU goes with a triangle with their WRs, little out just in front of Countess complete, immediate tackle, pressure -1.
O30 1 10 Shotgun trips TE Nickel over Run N/A QB power Clark 3
G pulls and goes up the middle as the QB and RB go outside. Odd. Clark(+1) compresses the hole on the inside and then releases outside, grabbing a foot and slowing. Morgan is to the hole but slips; he at least forces a cutback to CGordon(+0.5), who flowed around the back of the play and can tackle with the delays.
O33 2 7 Shotgun trips TE Nickel even Pass 5 Fly Stribling 67
The Stribling phaseout. M blitzes, mostly picked up though Morgan(+0.5) does get around a tackle and will pressure if QB goes to a second read. He probably should, as Stribling(-4, cover +2) is step for step and this ball is underthrown. WR just takes it away, and then runs a good long while. TGordon(-2) probably could have forced it out but bit on a juke, slowing up and missing a tackle(-1) that would have left IU at the 15.
M3 2PT 2PT Shotgun 2TE 4-4 under Pass 4 Reverse pass Countess Inc
Kind of an odd call when you're doing so well, but it mostly works, getting the TE out on an out route with an opportunity to catch the ball. Countess vaguely there and has maybe an effect on the play; mostly a drop.
Drive Notes: Touchdown(missed 2PT), 42-40, 3 min 3rd Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form D Form Type Rush Play Player Yards
O25 1 10 Shotgun trips Nickel even Run N/A Inside zone Black? 17
Black or Ryan doesn't get a call here as Black seems to be heading outside and Ryan doesn't try to loop around. Instant release for a G, ton of space right up the middle, dangerous. Morgan does well to get to the back about five yards downfield and grab an ankle; back runs through that but loses his balance and can't do anything but get tackled by Wilson. RPS -1; this was a wide open box; Black -2.
O42 1 10 Shotgun trips Nickel even Pass 4 PA TE seam Morgan 20
Pop pass brutal after last play. Morgan(-1) and Ross(-1) suck up, big space behind them, big easy gain, RPS –1, cover –2.
M38 1 10 Pistol trips Nickel even Penalty N/A Offsides Black 5
Black -1.
M33 2 5 Shotgun trips Nickel even Run N/A Inside zone Ryan 15
Ryan(-2) flies upfield, huge gap, he can't come back down to hold a gain down. Black(-2) goes right at a guard; should still be playside of him; way late realizing and trying to get out. Does not demand double at all so Ross has a guy on him and Taylor(-1) plays it badly on the edge, opening it up.
M18 1 10 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel even Run N/A Inside zone Black 3
M actually plays a run D that looks like it makes any sense. Black(+1) shoves right, taking two OL with him and forcing a cut behind. Ross(+1) is free as a result and cuts back with the back to tackle in the hole.
M15 2 7 Pistol 3-wide 5-1 nickel Pass 5 Scramble Wormley 15
IU rolls the pocket; Morgan(+0.5) blitzing off the edge cuts it off; Clark(+0.5) comes through a little further inside; Henry(-1) flowing as a spy; Ross(-2) flowing too. They're lined up right over each other; someone has to delay to actually be in the cutback lane. Neither is, and Roberson scoots for a touchdown. Wormley(-2) got way out of his lane on a rollout and opened up the lane.
Drive Notes: Touchdown, 49-47, 12 min 4th Q. Somehow, this is the last IU score.
Ln Dn Ds O Form D Form Type Rush Play Player Yards
O2 1 10 Shotgun 2-back triangle TE Nickel 4-3 even Run N/A QB zone Wormley 6
Wilson rolled down over the TE side, anticipating a run to it. Line steps away from the play, poor luck, everyone recovers to flow save Wormley(-2), who just goes straight upfield, getting penetration that only opens up a big, big gap. Wilson(+0.5) chucks a blocker aside to get the edge; Ross(+0.5) tries to shoot the big gap and gets shoved by a TE coming down off the edge; Roberson hits it and Ross(+1 tackling) just barely trips him up as he turns on the jets.
O8 2 4 Shotgun trips TE Nickel 4-3 even Run N/A Zone stretch Bolden 6
Sudfeld in as Roberson dislocates his thumb. No gaps to the interior as Wormley(+1) flows through and gets some penetration as he moves down the line. Henry(+1) also flows; he doesn't come through but he does occupy two guys the whole play. Beyer's on the edge but he gets tripped from behind by the guys Henry is dealing with; he does force it outside. Bolden(-2, tackling -2) is running up unblocked and has an opportunity for a TFL; he barely gets a hand on the back. First down.
O14 1 10 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel even Pass 4 Fly TGordon INT
This is maybe less scary after reviewing it. This isn't a blowby on Taylor; he is in zone and forcing the WR upfield just outside the hash. M is in quarter-quarter-half with TGordon(+4, cover +3) over the top on Taylor, and while this throw is way too much on a line and as a result very interceptable, it looks like this is exactly what the WR expects. A lofted throw probably draws a different reaction from Gordon. Here he makes a play. Pressure -1.
Drive Notes: Interception, 49-47, 8 min 4th Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form D Form Type Rush Play Player Yards
O25 1 10 Shotgun trips Nickel even Run N/A Zone stretch Washington -3
Roberson back. Washington(+2) chucks the C's attempted reach by him and looms in the hole. CGordon(+1) got the LT back and can burst upfield when the back bounces for a TFL.
O22 2 13 Shotgun trips Nickel even Pass N/A PA scramble Ross 5
Stretch fake, Roberson looks to pass, huge gap opens up. Ojemudia(-1) got way upfield as the rest of the guys react to the fake. Glasgow(+0.5) recognizes that Roberson's taking off pretty early and chucks a guy away to pursue. That helps cut it down for Ross(+1), who breaks down and forces Roberson out after a gain much more modest than it looked like it would be.
O27 3 8 Shotgun empty 3-3-5 nickel Pass 3 TE out Ross 11
CGordon in the middle, used as a spy. No pressure(-1) from the three rushers. Ross(-1, cover -1) beat by the TE on another one of those outs, tough in man coverage. RPS -1. Frustrating amount of time.
O38 1 10 Pistol 4-wide Nickel even Pass 4 In Lewis 8
Black(+0.5) drives his man back and is going to pressure without a quick throw against Lewis(-0.5, cover -1), who Latimore shoves away and gets room to YAC on a two yard route.
O46 2 2 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel even Run N/A Inside zone Black 1
M scraping; Black(+1) dives inside of a tackle to force the RB backside. Ryan(+1) also dives in, taking a hit but keeping his feet and tackling. Morgan comes into help after flaring for a possible keep.
O47 3 1 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel even Run N/A Inside zone Ryan 2
M slants away, sending Countess off the corner for contain. Ryan threatens to get inside and then the TE going backside decides to bash Ryan. He goes over, RB goes right up Indiana's back, Morgan can't get around that in time. Well played.
O49 1 10 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel even Pass 4 Hitch Taylor 6
Taylor(+0.5, cover +1) pulls a Marcus Ray on a high throw, immediate inbounds tackle is good in this situation.
M45 2 4 Pistol 3-wide Nickel even Run N/A Power O Ross 15
Oof, Ross, man. Wormley(+1) holds up against a double, giving no ground, so both LBs can flow free. Ross(-2) is filling first. He gets whacked back by the G, which is understandable, but he also gets sealed inside, which is real bad. Morgan is right there if he just gets outside the G's shoulder; he doesn't and the RB breaks it to the secondary. Taylor(-1) gets inside and doesn't trust Wilson to fill for his job, so the RB can bust outside for yet more yards.
M30 1 10 Shotgun 4-wide Nickel over Pass 4 Fly TGordon INT
No pressure(-2); this ball is way overthrown whether because of miscommunication or thumb. Lewis deflects it, Gordon(+1) intercepts.
Drive Notes: Interception, 56-47, 3 min 4th Q. Somehow there's even more of this game. IU's final drive is not charted since it's all extreme desperation and Michigan playing really really soft, as they should.

AHHH

IT BURNS

I'M COLD

Pick one.

GOING WITH COLD

The wind through your eviscerated guts, sort of thing.

HOW DID THIS HAPPEN

Gavrilo Princip was a poor nationalist with delusions—

NO, NO, THE FOOTBALL GAME, NOT THE MONSTROUS HISTORY OF THE 20TH CENTURY CULMINATING IN THE FOOTBALL GAME

A disclaimer first: the combination of Indiana's offense and BTN director guy's refusal to use angle that might actually tell you something about a play—must be related to Michigan Stadium's Vice President Of Replay Utilization—makes it hard to figure out exactly what the hell happened quite often. This was not a skycam game featuring Chris Spielman.

I'M DYING MAKE IT QUICK

Right. My theory of this football game is that they were completely unprepared for Indiana's pace and melted in the harsh fast-forward glare of it. This manifested in a pile of mental mistakes, some obvious (dude racing past cornerback who never gets a call and thinks he's got safety help) and some less so. After the fumble, Mattison managed to hold Indiana out for two plays and then dialed up a blitz that should have worked, as it got Clark and Wilson free off the edge. Indiana is going at mega tempo, though, and both guys go for the quarterback:

Maybe that happens if Indiana's playing tortoise-ball; we've seen things like that from Clark in the past. Given the sheer number of mental mistakes Michigan made, usually against ultra jet tempo, I think shock was a major factor in the carpet-bombing they suffered.

Indiana touchdowns:

  1. Jet tempo, Taylor doesn't get call, doesn't get zone help he expects.
  2. Jet tempo, Wilson can't get over to seam route at numbers from opposite hash, may be misaligned.
  3. Jet tempo, Clark and Wilson both run at a non-mobile QB.
  4. Jet tempo, Michigan is in a borked coverage that leaves Wynn wide open at the goal line. Three man route at the five yard line and there isn't a guy within five yards of Wynn.
  5. Check. Michigan shows 5-1 nickel with blitz and man free. IU rolls pocket away from blitz, Roberson scrambles up middle of vacated pocket for TD.

It's just brutal on you when you've just given up a 17 yard run thanks to 5.5 in the box and the next play comes a second after the ball is put down and it's a pop seam to the tight end. At that pace you are just reacting, and probably reacting to the thing that just happened instead of considering the fact that the line is pass blocking. Do I think that Michigan could have played this better? Yes. But so much of what the game felt like was guys panicking because the ball was about to be snapped. That is a preparation issue, and not a talent one.

The other thing Indiana's tempo gave them was an opportunity to see what the defense was doing and react with a check, or not react, as the case may be. IU's first play after Michigan scored to go up 35-24 was a zone run against five guys in the box; presnap Roberson checks with the sideline, and the sideline is like, uh, yeah, we're good.

Black needs to do a lot better there, but he's not a nose tackle and he's play nose tackle, so… yeah.

That's the third thing IU tempo did: wear out big dudes and make Michigan rotate even more than they usually do. Ben Gedeon, Jourdan Lewis, and Graham Glasgow all saw time after having been excised (or never in) previous gameplans.

So Mattison did not prepare us at all for this game.

He did get smoked. Is anyone surprised, though? This Is Michigan, which means going out to the Rose Bowl and watching USC run the ball zero times in the second half of a 3-3 game that you lose, or, you know, the Horror. A couple of people emailed me this week, worrying about a seemingly dismissive answer Hoke gave about the idea that they'd have to change things to prepare for IU tempo. Heiko's recap of that presser reveals a much less standoffish version of what happened:

A lot of teams use two scout offenses to try to simulate Indiana’s tempo. Have you done that at all?

“We pretty much all year practice high tempo. I run the scout cards for the defense, so I have the offensive line with me. We do it at a pace so we can get reps of what the plan might be against certain plays so that we can see it as coaches and evaluate it if it’s good and all that. So we do that constantly. We’ve got two sets of skill people on both sides, so they’re ready to go. The offensive linemen, they do a tremendous job of finishing and wherever the ball is spotted, I’m running over there. I know it’s hard to believe. We go pretty quick.”

Has you added to that this week?

“It’s pretty much the way we practice.”

I'm sure Hoke believes that Michigan goes pretty quick… or at least did.  When the rubber hit the road here, Indiana showed Michigan what quick really was.

To me the issue goes deeper than Mattison. This is a whole-program issue, one that I think we all wondered about when Michigan hired a guy who was all about manball. If Michigan can't get a two-minute drill executed in under eight minutes, how can we take the idea that Michigan is comfortable at high pace seriously? They suck at it on offense; they suck at it on defense. This goes back to the guy in charge.

At least we can take solace in the fact that a lot of teams seem to be having trouble with the Hoosiers, who are second in the FEI rankings. And that's an attempt to make Indiana's offense look less impressive statistically since their tempo distorts metrics that don't divide, like total offense. FEI takes a drive, figures out how well an average offense expects to do against the defense you're up against, and gives you points based on how far away from that average you end up. It is tempo-immune, and it says the candystripers can play.

Why are you so nice to Mattison instead of Borges /something about PPG

are you seriously using ppg as a stat in a year when the offense is handing teams free touchdowns all the damn time and the defense is intercepting all the things

I'm from the internet. Yes, I am.

I see. Well, FEI can spit out some goofy results from time to time but it reflects what I think is going on with Michigan's units: defense is 17th, offense 35th, special teams a miserable 88th. This defense is still in the same range it was the last couple years, which is what I expected before the season. Thus: overall contentment.

I think it's fundamentally much more difficult to deal with Indiana's offense than Penn State's defense. That stuff is hard, man. MSU will be a test for both coordinators. Borges has an opportunity to show he can do anything against a top notch defense; Mattison has an opportunity to shut down a bad offense.

CHART

I didn't even… oh. I see what you did there.

[Reminder that DL is a MAKE PLAYS position and being neutral is bad; for a full game you want +4 to break even.]

Defensive Line
Player + - T Notes
Heitzman 2 1.5 0.5 Rotation, exhaustion, etc.
Washington 2.5 - 2.5 Did not play that much; probably should get more time.
This is not a recording.
Black 4 9 -5 Repeatedly gashed on ground trying to get pass rush.
Clark 3.5 3.5 0 Had a sack on final useless drive. Cost M four points with bust after fumble.
Wormley 4 5.5 -1.5 Weak for DT at this juncture.
Pipkins - - - DNP
Glasgow 0.5 - 0.5 Half dozen snaps maybe.
Ojemudia 1 4 -3 Out of position.
Godin - - - DNP
Ash - - - DNC, did get a few snaps.
Henry 5.5 1 4.5 Every standard down should have Henry or Washington.
Charlton - - - DNP
TOTAL 23 24.5 -1.5 Tempo saw three guys do something, fourth get gashed.
Linebacker
Player + - T Notes
C.Gordon 4.5 3 1.5 Surprising amount of DE PT.
Morgan 4.5 2.5 2 Blitzed effectively.
Ross 7 7.5 -0.5 Faded late. Tired?
Beyer - - - Invisible.
Ryan 5 2 3 Coming on a bit.
Bolden 1 7 -6 Not a good way to follow up a good performance.
Gedeon 1 - 1 Looked relatively comfortable.
Jenkins-Stone - - - DNP
TOTAL 23 22 1 A passing grade, but only just.
Secondary
Player + - T Notes
Countess 5 5 0 PBUs, wide open Wynn.
Taylor 9.5 5.5 4 Some issues were RPS. Had some great coverage.
Stribling 0.5 7 -6.5 needs weight room, badly.
Hollowell - - - DNP
T. Gordon 6 3 3 Bail-out interception second time this year he's made the key defensive play to win.
Avery 0.5 - 0.5 Yay?
Wilson 1.5 4 -2.5
Furman - - - DNP
J. Clark - - - DNP
Lewis 1 0.5 0.5 ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME –Jourdan Lewis
TOTAL 19 25 -6 Taylor explained in detail.
Metrics
Pressure 16 15 +1 +9 blitz, +7 organic
Coverage 25 17 8 IU made some crazy throws.
Tackling 5 10 33% Major issue.
RPS 6 19 -13 Tempo destroyed M.

A pretty appalling DL performance; it is mystifying to me how Michigan can put Black and Wormley or Heitzman out there as the DTs. Henry and Washington are not rushers, but they would give Michigan a fighting chance with six guys in the box.

Everything else is also flames, though the starting linebackers coped pretty well, as did Raymon Taylor. Which I think you're probably going to point at right about…

Our defensive backs are shambling meat-sacks. MEAT SAAAAACKS.

I'm actually not that down on them. Stribling obviously had major issues, not only by phasing out of our reality but also by turning a simple five yard out into 26 yards by missing a tackle. He needs 15 pounds. He is a freshman. He actually might be pretty good next year.

Countess was solid when not falling prey to the mental errors that beset everyone. The wide open short touchdown had to be on him, because Stribling wasn't going to be able to cover two guys to that sideline. Other than that he was probably the best guy out there. I said he'd gotten burned in the game column, but the longer Wynn touchdown was not on him. It was more on Wilson and a defense that was vulnerable to that particular play given how they aligned. He got a PBU on a corner route that was straight out of pressing Michael Floyd and living; he was close enough to bother IU receivers; he is pretty good. He's not the crazy star we thought he'd be, at least not yet.

Meanwhile… Taylor is the 2013 Jonas Mouton Memorial Huge Plays Both Ways defender. You can assign some of his performance to the team-wide inability to keep pace with the Hoosiers. The opening touchdown was that, obviously. What's left after you slice out the stuff where he didn't know what he was supposed to be doing is a combination of nice plays, like a PBU that got Michigan one of those punt things, and boggling almost-plays, like the should-have-been pick six that was not.

I think he's getting better. Set aside confusion that was a defense-wide issue and Taylor's day is actually kind of good. When they tried a fade route on him that he was in man coverage on he got his head around and had the throw hit him in the shoulder. Even when Indiana was getting completions on him they were often narrow things. The shoulda-pick-six is one; this slant is something I'll take from a CB all day:

Useless BTN director never showed a replay of Taylor's coverage on a fade route he broke up in a way that really seemed like it could have been interference:

From the stands I can tell you that Taylor simply would not let the WR release. By the time the ball was in the air, Taylor was in the guy's chest and gave him no chance to catch and underthrown ball. If it's not interference that's great coverage.

I did have an issue with a couple of plays where IU got to Taylor on run plays and he attempted to fight inside instead of holding the edge. Let the safeties do their jobs, man. I still think Taylor's day was considerably more good than bad.

Finally, Jourdan Lewis as got be just… like…

…I'ma quit this bull and go be a monk.

Any indication that Jake Ryan is back to being Jake Ryan?

Just flashes here and there. Ryan had a trademark chaos play as he forced a throwaway:

He did not get a ton of playing time, and did have one flight upfield on first and five that was one of three contributing factors to a 15-yard run.

Linebacker play seemed not so good.

It kind of was, it kind of wasn't. Ross got bashed out of a hole on power and made a rookie move by getting sealed to the same side as his help. That's a bad memory of linebacking corps from a few years ago. Bolden whiffed a potential TFL in space, thought he was the force player on a zone run that Ross bailed him out on, but Ross did bail him out. That TFL miss was bad, though:

Bolden was out there in OT against PSU, earning that PT with a good game, but he reverted to the overwhelmed guy we saw in the first half of the year. Bad game for it, because it's hard to get him out of there once he starts struggling.

Anything else?

Here is the Norfleet return that was fun.

Heroes?

Uh… yeah, I'm going with Raymon Taylor. Thomas Gordon bailed Michigan out with the IT late.  Willie Henry was Michigan's best run defender.

Maybe not so heroic?

Team-wide, Michigan was not prepared for IU's speed. Put that on Mattison if you want, to me that is a Hoke issue that stems from his philosophy. Black got gashed, a lot, and did not provide extra pass rush. Stribling needs to make plays.

What does it mean for Michigan State and the future?

Hopefully not much. Indiana's tempo is a program-defining thing. You can install a tiny fraction of it in a couple weeks, but Michigan's not going to see much if any of that against Iowa and MSU. Nebraska, Northwestern, and OSU all have elements of that in their offense but to a much smaller extent. They might burn Michigan for a play here and there, but it won't be the foundation of a gameplan. Also, Michigan just got a huge wakeup call right before a bye.

Raymon Taylor is improving. I think he's quality. I know that's a contrarian take after that game, but his issues were neither technique or athleticism; I'll take a guy who just barely misses an INT a week after he jumps a route for a badass one.

At the other corner spot I guess you just roll with it and hope the things we've seen are small sample size outliers. I think you can make the case for that. In defensive backery, 80% of success is just showing up.

Michigan needs to have a nose-type person on the field in any standard down. Henry or Washington; this business with a 280 pound SDE lined up next to another SDE who is probably a freshman is an invitation to get gashed. It's been like this all year, though, and I don't expect it to change.

Ryan's showing flashes. Come on, baby.

Gedeon may start eating into Bolden's PT. I speculated Michigan might drop him just in time for a good game against PSU; after another worrisome outing there is now a contender for his snaps.

Comments

MGoLogan

October 25th, 2013 at 4:50 PM ^

Luckily MSU and Iowa are about as pro-style as you get, so we should have a true 1-tech on the field at all times.  Adbullah is more of a outside the tackles type but yes, Hyde and OSU are a huge worry.  Against MSU, UM should be able to load up the box and play straight man on MSU's WR's due to their lack of a true difference maker and Cook's accuracy issues.

bronxblue

October 25th, 2013 at 4:42 PM ^

I know that the concern with tempo is that UM seems psychologically against it, but the fact remains that it was a game UM won by 16 and, honestly, I'd rather the team not gameplan for frigging Indiana.  I am not a fan of this particular offensive philosophy, but the idea that just because Baylor, IU, and Oregon love to run up-tempo means anyone who doesn't is left behind isn't right either.  I agree that this will remain the thorn in UM's side against certain teams, but those programs undoubtedly hear about not being "tough enough" defensively when they get manhandled by the Wisconsins and Stanfords of the world.  At this point, I want UM to establish an offensive and defensive cohesion, and once they generate that identity I think everything else will fall into place.  Sure, they'll still struggle against certain teams, that's true for every team in the country save, I don't know, Alabama.  It happens, and I'm not sure adopting a different philosophy would fix the issue more than introduce a different-but-equally-relevant one.

Monocle Smile

October 25th, 2013 at 4:48 PM ^

and parity has gotten to the point where it's possible to get knocked off by a bottom feeder, especially in a high-variance sport like football...and we should know this more than most teams. We need to gameplan for EVERY team, especially when we have a bye week right afterward. Pride must be swallowed.

Yes, we'll inevitable struggle with some teams, but it would be nice to see an earnest attempt to not get roasted by a weakness everyone saw coming a mile away. We KNEW Indiana would go jet tempo, and yet there were points where we seemed almost shocked to not see a huddle.

That being said, I think you're right about establishing an identity and cohesion. We're not there yet, and these concerns might fade when we arrive.

Space Coyote

October 25th, 2013 at 5:11 PM ^

Particularly the idea that we must be up-tempo to stop up-tempo teams after we don't, just like up-tempo spread teams need to be less up-tempo and spread to handle the smash-mouth teams that they fail to stop.

Michigan will probably never be as good at stopping up-tempo as a team that runs it regularly. Up-tempo spread teams will probably never regularly be better playing smash-mouth football because they don't see it every day. Non-triple option teams probably won't be as good against the triple option as teams that run the triple option. But you can only be so many things and at the end of the day you can really only be you and do what you can within that picture to prepare for others. Establishing a cohesive identity and adjusting within that identity are the best you can do as far as that is regarded. And the problems Michigan are having definately go well beyond their identity not being up-tempo spread offense.

Reader71

October 26th, 2013 at 12:38 PM ^

Absolutely not. One could make the argument that "spread" should be our identity, as it fits our players best. But there is absolutely no evidence that "up tempo" has anything at all to do with this group. In this UFR, Brian says we can't run a two minute drill in less than 8 minutes. Anyone who says we should go up-tempo on offense is just hoping, basing that hope on a dogmatic belief that up-tempo is good and slower is bad. No evidence that it does anything for this offense. And even less evidence that it would help this team. Our defense was "torched" by tempo and we've been going pretty thin at DB. Higher tempo by our offense would mean more possessions for the opposition, meaning more of our defense on the field. I like this defense, but the best place for them or any other is on the sideline.

CompleteLunacy

October 25th, 2013 at 5:08 PM ^

to read over and over again about how it's because of Michigan being MANBALL and because they just insist on not acknowledging tempo or something. I doubt the coaches are this level of dinosaur-thinking. 

The players were in positions to succeed on several plays. Two sure-fire interceptions were instead converted to touchdowns. One field goal because the coach decided to prevent the hail mary and basically conceded the field goal (not sure if he did it on purpose or didn't realize that the field goal was still a possibility). At least a few other plays that Michigan had stuffed, if not for missed tackles. And IU's first touchdown was because a guy didn't get the playcall in time...it's hard to speculate why he didn't get it in time, so it's impossible to know whether it was really an "RPS -4" or whether Taylor is to really blame for not getting the call. That sort of miscommunication didn't really happen again.

It doesn't necessarily come down to preparation...Michigan was prepared. They just weren't ready. I feel like ther's a subtle but important difference. It was the first real high-tempo opponent they've faced, and the fastest in the nation to boot. Obviously you try to prepare for it, but nothing takes the place of actually playing them and getting the experience. 

I'm not saying Mattison or Hoke are blameless. I just reject the idea that MANBALL and "This is Michigan" have anything to do with it. I reject the notion that the coaches are on the wrong trajectory because one insanely-fast offense burned them a few times. I'm not saying manball is a better philosophy than spread...it just is what it is. 

stephenrjking

October 25th, 2013 at 6:22 PM ^

I'm not sure I read Brian's remarks the same way you or SC do.
I read Brian saying that this particular team, in its MANBALL mentality, is poorly prepared for any type of pace other than slow. And I have this complaint as well. To me, it is not an issue of all MANBALL teams being inherently vulnerable, but that Hoke's particular commitment and execution of this philosophy has left the players incapable of dealing with other tempos.
This is a problem, because in my opinion giving up 47 points in regulation should never, ever be acceptable for Michigan. Brian saw a number of plays where tempo caused serious problems, and his theory is that the unfamiliar feel of a true tempo team leaves the defense vulnerable here.
I think there may be some truth to that. I don't think that Michigan needs to run a tempo spread to deal with this, but I think more incorporation of tempo concepts in certain places may be warranted.
It's not like NFL teams aren't becoming really good at this. The Patriots and the Broncos play styles of football that Al would give his left arm to emulate, and they play fast at times.
And they play slow at times. I think Michigan can do the same.
And I think that, if tempo is an inherent challenge, Michigan has to do something to meet that. Because our seasons will be judged in large part by what happens on Thanksgiving weekend every November, and that team uses tempo whenever it wants. Michigan must know how to deal with this.

CompleteLunacy

October 25th, 2013 at 7:11 PM ^

Why is slow always bad? That's part of the issue I think. The idea that going slow is bad drives me nuts. Sometimes the counter to a quick-strike offense is to wear down the opponent and maintain possession of the ball. It's happened to the Eagles already this year in the NFL.

I do agree that Michigan needs to run up-tempo offense here and there, and am honestly mystified why they don't do any no-huddle type stuff.  Obviously NFL teams do it (and by that same token, for as much criticism as huddling gets, NFL teams still huddle too) Maybe it's just a learning thing though...let's not lose sight of the fact that Devin is still mostly a first-year starter, and the program is still transitioning. For whatever reason, perhaps Borges just isn't comfortable runnning it yet. I don't know. I just refuse to believe Borges doesn't do any up-tempo concepts ever. Surely he ran up tempo stuff at SDSU and Auburn. He still is getting the offenses to put up points.

But yeah, I completely agree that 47 points against is not acceptable by any means. But, why does that mean it's a program-level problem? Why can't it be because the defense was just not ready (mentally-speaking) for it? I liked Space Coyote's Air Force triple-option analogy in a comment earlier in this thread.

I mean, take away 17 points from the two interceptions that should have happened but somehow didn't along with a 50-yard FG at the end of the first half, and suddenly their total is 30...only 2 points more than a supposed elite defense (MSU) allowed. When we're talking about one or two swing plays  that make the end-result go from "terrible" to "acceptable", then how is it a program-level problem? Why isn't that just "bad luck"? It is a game, after all, bad luck does happen all the time. And IU does actually have a pretty good offense, apparently.

How can we know for sure that because Hoke tells everyone in a presser they prepared for IU the same way they always do, that it means they didn't prepare at all for up-tempo? Maybe they did the same stuff, only faster. 

 

 

stephenrjking

October 25th, 2013 at 9:09 PM ^

Slow isn't always bad, and I haven't argued otherwise. I think the last 2.5 years have shown that the slower pace of the offense has helped the defense considerably while still, usually, moving efficiently.
But systems have to be able to do a lot of things well. There are many different game situations that a team may encounter through the course of the season, and good teams will have an answer for most or all of them. Triple option teams, for example, fell out of favor in part because their running focus left them ill-suited for large comebacks or two-minute drills where running was a poor option. Conversely, tempo-always teams like IU do a poor job of salting games away late, because they're not good at bleeding clock.
I believe Michigan can continue to slow games down while still doing a better job handling tempo teams and game situations that call for faster offense (remember Iowa in '11? That was awful). Practicing those situations frequently and better will make the entire team more comfortable with them.
They may be practicing a bit now, but I think they need more of it. Because seasons come down to moments like these.

funkywolve

October 25th, 2013 at 11:51 PM ^

Could the poor play of UM's oline the last two years helped kill any thoughts the coaches have at moving at a quicker pace?  When your oline is doing a poor job of making the correct oline calls and/or figuring out who to block once the ball is snapped is speeding up the offense going to help that or just make it worse?  I don't know.  I don't think the coaches are to keen are doing any kind of uptempo other than 2 minutes but I'm just guessing that the poor oline play could be a factor as to why they haven't tried it.

Reader71

October 26th, 2013 at 12:46 PM ^

I mentioned this in another post. I have no idea if the coaches have taken this into consideration, but I have. After IU, someone said we should come out using a high tempo against State. My first thought was that this line should never be rushed. They have a hard time blocking the right people when given 10 seconds to look at it and get the right calls.

imafreak1

October 28th, 2013 at 12:42 PM ^

Since this very blog, just a few days ago, published data that suggested there was zero correlation between being good or bad at defending up-tempo and the offense you ran, Brian was nearly required to limit his comments to Michigan.

There is no evidence to support his broad contention, so rather than backing away from his broad contention, he simply narrowed it down to Michigan. For some reason, Michgian is a special case slow tempo offense that ruins its defense against up-tempo.

There is clearly an adherence to theory that is refractory to contrary evidence.

AC1997

October 25th, 2013 at 5:11 PM ^

Brian - 

I'm confused about your DB scoring a little, which centers around Stribling phasing out I guess.  Each of four DBs gave up a big completion and here's how they were scored:

  • Stribling - Is in perfect position, ball gets ripped away, gets a -4 (coverage +2)
  • Taylor - Has a pick six that he lets go through him for a big gain, gets a -1 (coverage +1)
  • Countess - He blows a coverage in the redzone where he's no where near the WR, gets a -3 (coverage -3)
  • Lewis - He is step for step with a guy, doesn't get a hand on the ball, gives up a big completion.  Gets a +1 (coverage +1).

It seems that the -4 is pretty harsh compared to the others, despite result-based charting.  

EnoughAlready

October 25th, 2013 at 5:20 PM ^

Brian evangelizes about The Neon Spread so-sleek-and-beautiful.  Man, oh man, the spread is just...beautiful!!  It's his new religion.  Logic, common sense, all must bow to the spread and no huddle and bubble screen -- the holy trinity.

I've stopped reading content written by Hairy-Spread-Guru.  It's tendentious and boring.  I learn infinitely more in the comments section.

ken725

October 25th, 2013 at 5:49 PM ^

Is there an example of an up-tempo manball team? How come manball teams don't go up-tempo to take advantage of the things that up-tempo can create?

MGlobules

October 25th, 2013 at 7:06 PM ^

one that I think we all wondered about when Michigan hired a guy who was all about manball. If Michigan can't get a two-minute drill executed in under eight minutes, how can we take the idea that Michigan is comfortable at high pace seriously? They suck at it on offense; they suck at it on defense. This goes back to the guy in charge."

This is what I've been saying for the last three weeks. Loving Hoke because manliness appeals to you in some pheremonal sense is not fucking enough. And Hoke appeals to me in a pheremonal sense. It may be that the deck is stacked against hosts of NCs, anyway. But this thing has a ceiling, and it is rounding into view. 

And btw, Mattison is recruiting his guys just as Borges is recruiting his guys. They've both got good guys coming and they're both damned perceptive and capable coaches. Neither one is going anywhere, either, not for some time to come. Hating on Borges and loving Hoke is, meanwhile, not bright. 

Relax and enjoy the ride; only Alabama and OSU win every game, and they cheat. 

HollywoodHokeHogan

October 25th, 2013 at 8:01 PM ^

For three spread filled wonderful years this blog asserted that the type of offense run had no effect on the defense.  Surely the reason Michigan couldn't defend against Wisconsin had nothing to do with the offense running a spread.   And it's not like spread teams look great against other spread offenses.  Baylor's hypertempo doesn't seem to make their D worth half a shit against WVU's spread.

Wasn't there just a front page post on how tempo on offense does not effect the defense's ability to defend against it?  And yet this is a program wide problem?  Since we can't pin it on the manball offense, we move up a level and blame it on the general manball-ness of the program.     BTW, Nebraska's spread attack put up 23 points on the manbally coaches last year.  OSU scored 26.  Everyone has selective memory regarding how EVERY SPREAD TEAM KILLS US.  Almost every team struggles against good offenses, and many good offenses are spread attacks.   This quest for an all encompassing narrative is hurting the analysis, IMO.  And I'm not trying to shit on Brian here, I just don't agree with him.  That's not because he's not a coach or anything like that.

Reader71

October 26th, 2013 at 12:54 PM ^

What happened to those rational spread apologia? We were told that our offense was not hurting our defense. Now that we don't like the offense, we are told that it does. One or the other, guys. For the record, I don't care which one. Lets just stick to one "truth".

MGoStrength

October 25th, 2013 at 9:35 PM ^

When I think about our future I always thought our '12 class was going to be awesome on defense by year 3, which is now next year.  I was really excited about the LB corps, Pipkins, Wilson, Richardson etc.  I know a lot of these guys are still young, but they also all have a lot of snaps.  A few years ago I couldn't wait for these younger more talented recruits to replace the older guys, now I'm already thinking they will get replaced by younger more talented incoming recruits themselves.  Wilson still seems like he could be that guy.  I feel bad for Pip, but he isn't as far along as I believed he would have been before he got injured.  Bolden doesn't seem to have improved at all yet.  Ross seems to show weaknesses in coverage, which sucks because he's already undersized, which limites his top end on run support.  Richardson will never see time as a starter, same with RJS I imagine.  Will we ever be "there" with an experienced talented defense that is one of the top groups across the country that we all expect?  I assumed we'd have that next year and now I see us as pretty much the same as this year, but maybe a little better up front.  It just sometimes seems like we are perpetually 2 years away.

CR7

October 26th, 2013 at 10:26 AM ^

I agree with your overall point, though I'm a little higher on 'Dre than you are. You are forgetting the fast improving Wormley and Henry, though, who definitely look like they'll be at the very least solid players for M. Ojemudia as well.

MGoStrength

October 26th, 2013 at 1:43 PM ^

I agree with you on Wormley, Ojemudia, and Henry.  That was sorta of what I was eluding to as being better up front.  We bring everyone back minus Q-Wash.  Clark gets another year to develop.  But, I already feel like Charlton may be a larger more talented player than Clark or Ojemudia, Hand will centainly be better than anyone playing SDE, McDowell will be better than Wormley, and Mone will be better than Henry.  It just seems like we will again have younger, talented kids that we will still need to wait to gain experience.  I guess the talent level raises each time we do this and this class at least at DB (Peppers) and DL (Hand, McDowell, Mone) will be the first time we are getting elite kids.  But, I also thought RJS, Bolden, Ross, & Richardson were pretty darned good back when we recuited them and I'm no longer sure and half expect them to be burried by guys on the depth chart like McCray, Ferns, & Peppers.  I would just like to one day feel like our most talented guys are juniors and seniors rather than freshman and sophomores.

jdon

October 26th, 2013 at 11:13 PM ^

basically Brian revels in Schadenfruede, so when we lose its like christmas around here and we get fifteen fucking posts a week...  Then we, the proles, get to bickering about the right and wrong assertions of our fearless leader.  It's ridiculous guys...

I've gone from checking and reading this site all day every day to stopping in on my way to other sites...

IDK

jdon

 

MGoStrength

October 27th, 2013 at 10:16 AM ^

And until we win and can keep pace with our most bitter rival it will always be this way.  It's human nature.  We are merely voicing our fears, concerns, and frustrations...it makes perfect sense.