Unverified Voracity Wears Fedora

Submitted by Brian on November 16th, 2012 at 11:16 AM

Men wearing hats. And bandanas.

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LS&A magazine collects Bentley photos of old-timey Michigan games to the present-day to examine what people wore to the things. This is from 1936; I think I recognize the guy in the glasses in the front row.

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Don't look at the Ark, dude.

Things didn't really fall off a cliff until the 80s.

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Probably DFW on the left there. Probably.

All the Kwiatkowski features. The AD must have offered people free nachos for articles about senior walk-on TE and MGoFave-Rave Mike Kwiatkowski, because you can't throw a rock this week without dinging one on the head. The Daily version:

It’s fine to recognize how unlikely it is that Kwiatkowski rose from regular student to scholarship starter in a matter of three years — but don’t call him a walk-on.

“I actually despise that label,” Kwiatkowski said. “Because like you said, there’s been a number of (walk-ons) who have played, and just because you weren’t given a scholarship doesn’t mean you aren’t as capable. Obviously there’s some exceptions to that, of people who walk on and don’t end up playing.

“I guess that’s the rule, if anything.”

Er. Senior Brain, Behavior, and Cognitive Science major Mike Kwiatkowski. MLive also features Kwiatkowski.

Denard QB controversy stuff. There's really no controversy, everyone strains to point out; unfortunately it seems like there's really no expectation it'll even be relevant. This is where we're at:

If Denard Robinson can't go, Hoke will consider single, symbolic play

That would be something I would think about, but to be honest with you," Hoke said. "The seniors and the guys and the people who are truly Michigan fans, I think they understand the significance he's had."

He was asked about using Robinson in another role Saturday. The injury has caused numbness in his right hand and made it difficult to grip the football.

"Oh, I don't know," Hoke said on 97.1. "The health of him and all those things are what we're concerned about."

At this point I'm not expecting him against Iowa, except in that ceremonial role. If it's two weeks on from the Nebraska game and he's still throwing ducks in warmups, as he was before the Northwestern game, it doesn't seem likely he'll get better before the bowl game, if then. John Niyo:

…chances are, we've seen the last of Robinson as Michigan's starting quarterback. The ulnar nerve injury that has sidelined him since the first half of an Oct. 27 loss at Nebraska takes weeks to heal, if not months, or surgery. And coach Brady Hoke's cat-and-mouse games with the media notwithstanding, that reality — along with Robinson's NFL prospects — figures to leave the senior stuck in this new dual-threat role: as an extra coach and cheerleader on the sideline while Devin Gardner succeeds him under center.

At least Gardner is doing well, the considerable silver lining in pretty much the worst way for Denard to go out.

Halfway to a final verdict thing. The MZone's Season Tickets vs Stubhub feature concludes with resounding victory for the scalper, especially for primo seats which could be had at a 40% markdown on the secondary market. This is the easy year, though: a home schedule featuring Nebraska/ND/Ohio State is not likely to end up with the scalper in the black. How close will a two-year total be? Tune in next year to find out.

I'm guessing it'll be pretty close to break-even overall, but once you take the ND game out of the equation… well, Arkansas probably isn't going to cut it.

Talking with Mo. MVictors sits down with Gary Moeller:

One of the greatest times I had after I came back was when we watched Michigan football together in the press box.  One day up there I found out how much he truly loved this university.  He said, “Hey Mo, come here. I wanna show you something.”  The band was already out on the field and the players were coming out of the tunnel, and they’re playing The Victors and all that stuff. Bo said, “Now there—isn’t that the most beautiful thing you’ve ever seen in your life?  Look at the fans, look at band and look at this team coming out here. That’s what Michigan is all about.” It was as though he was just painting a portrait that was in his mind of something that he was so proud of.

"One of the greatest times I had after I came back was when we watched Michigan football together in the press box. He said, 'hey, come here' and told me to listen to this generic Nickelback ripoff cheese by a band named Porpville or something. Bo said 'Now there—isn't that the most beautiful thing you've ever seen in your life?' Then Zombie Nation came on, and we wept in each others' arms."

-conversation that did not happen

Iowa: not good. Win percentage chart from the Purdue game showing how Iowa stayed in the game:

It may not be much of a comfort to anyone, but Iowa was actually very fortunate to lose to Purdue on a last-second field goal. Or to put it another way, Iowa was lucky to be in the game at all. If Purdue could have just gotten out of its own way on a couple of occasions, they would have won by two touchdowns or more. Every time it looked like the Boilermakers were going to go ahead decisively, they managed to make an egregious blunder -- a fumble, a penalty, a missed field goal -- that kept Iowa inexplicably and unjustly still in the game. If we look at the win probability chart for the game, we can see exactly where these moments occurred (WP here refers to Iowa's chances of winning):

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That's how you lose by a field goal despite getting outgained almost 2 to 1.

Tie that running back to the train tracks. Northwestern defensive lineman Sean McEvilly: we need to have a talk.

Sir. You are named Sean McEvilly. You do not pronounce this like you are Scottish adverbial evil, nor do you have a luxuriously nefarious mustache. In fact you look about as evil as a schnauzer.

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I'm nice.

Also, what is the deal with this?

Good attitude on the practice field.

This should read "conspires to tie pretty debutantes to Venric Mark." At least you are majoring in economics.

I'm sure you feel, like I do, that this is a missed opportunity. Look at Jake Ryan: he grows his hair out and becomes Clay Mathews. To ensure a ticket to the NFL, you need one of these:

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Please acquire one posthaste and accept the internet glory that surely awaits.

This isn't Canisius anymore, Toto. Michigan can throw it up, and someone can catch it and rain thunder down. This is… intriguing for John Beilein:

The alley-oop: the most exciting play in basketball.

For the first time in his 35 years of coaching, Beilein now incorporates the alley-oops into his practices.

“I realize it’s a really good play,” he noted Monday, pausing before he finished, “if you have athletes.”

"…I have just discovered that men like Glenn Robinson III exist, and whoah."

Policework objection. BWS takes on the long Mark option discussed in the defensive UFR:

before the ball is even snapped, you can see a huge problem: Michigan is badly outnumbered to the boundary side of the field. From the offensive center toward the boundary, Michigan has only four defenders. Nebraska has four men on the line of scrimmage, Colter, and Mark. There's absolutely no way Michigan can defend this play toward the sideline.

It's tough, sure, but doable. I clipped this exact play a bit later and Michigan executed better. Beyer and Kovacs combined to impact Mark near the LOS; the pile fell forward for four.

Also note Ross's presence. The key is for that defensive end to stay on the LOS and widen out. Beyer at the pitch on the first one versus the second:

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Beyer doesn't get as far upfield, is a step or two further outside, and is turned to chase on the pitch, which gets him to the back as Kovacs contains. Michigan's alignment there can get the job done, and if you don't slide to the field they'll have opportunities out there. That's what the spread does—requires you to make plays without the advantage of numbers. Michigan's trying to get that back by using the sideline as their 12th guy.

One of Michigan's main issues against the option in this one was the defensive ends giving themselves up one for one quickly. We saw them get a little better at that as the day went on; they'll have to rep it a lot next week in preparation for Ohio State.

Etc.: Northwestern analyzes its doom, needs bigger screenshots. Classic Ufer nicknames.  Super Toe! The only Iranian I know who wears cowboy boots! For best results, play Indiana. Rich Rodriguez on Denard. Orange Bowl contract finalized, ND gets significantly less than everyone else if they participate. Senior salute from M&GB. Holdin' The Rope on Denard.

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jblaze

November 16th, 2012 at 11:25 AM ^

Can he play RB and hold the ball in his left hand? Or can he just hold the ball (not throw) in his right and return kicks, play RB?

If so, do you think Hoke/ Borges are saving him for Ohio? (Please make my day and say yes to some, if not all of these questions!).

Mr. Yost

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triguy616

November 16th, 2012 at 11:27 AM ^

"Students at the 2012 game against the University of Massachusetts participate in the successful "maize out" tradition, which began in 2005. Fans are encouraged to wear their yellow Michigan gear, normally a t-shirt or sweater, to create a sea of maize in the stands"

 

Er, they have quite a loose interpretation of the word "successful".

pkatz

November 16th, 2012 at 11:34 AM ^

my friend had one in grade school - very nippy and pretty sure she bit me (the dog, not my friend, who was actually a guy named Larry).  But Giant Schnauzers?  Whoa man, those things look like they belong in in the movie, Honey I Blew Up the Kid... they are that strange and over-sized.

and now back to our regularly scheduled program... go blue.

Mr. Yost

November 16th, 2012 at 11:38 AM ^

"Policework objection. BWS takes on the long Mark option discussed in the defensive UFR:

before the ball is even snapped, you can see a huge problem: Michigan is badly outnumbered to the boundary side of the field. From the offensive center toward the boundary, Michigan has only four defenders. Nebraska has four men on the line of scrimmage, Colter, and Mark. There's absolutely no way Michigan can defend this play toward the sideline." ""''ss

 

Also, all game I was SCREAMING at Mattison (err my TV) to stop playing 2 deep safties and put the boundary side safety in the box for run support. You'll see in this exact play, they're both 11 & 12 yards off the line.

Fricking move Floyd or whoever that is standing on the 30 yardline down into the box. If it's Floyd, put him over the slot and move Demens into the box for run support.

Note: It is Floyd. So yes, either move him closer...or put him out over the slot and get Demens in there.

YoOoBoMoLloRoHo

November 16th, 2012 at 11:39 AM ^

We need an APB for Dave Brandon as he's driving around AA looking for a time machine. Those pics reveal very little UM wear even in the 80s and zero luxury suite - oh the missed opportunity for cash.

Surprised UM could even afford football in the 20th century!

Ed Shuttlesworth

November 16th, 2012 at 12:05 PM ^

Awesome pictures.  The biggest change, obviously, is the (generated) need for the fans to affirmatively demonstrateand pronounce their tribalism in the clothes and colors they wore, which began about 15 years ago, and has accelerated in the 21st c.  That's a bigger change than fedoras to 80s garb, which merely reflects changes in dress in general society.

It's not entirely clear why fans have to SHOW they're Michigan fans so directly.  It's not as though there was any confusion in the 80s about the team the Michigan student section and 99% of the other fans in the stadium supported.

wile_e8

November 16th, 2012 at 11:59 AM ^

I'm guessing it'll be pretty close to break-even overall, but once you take the ND game out of the equation… well, Arkansas probably isn't going to cut it.

I don't know about that. I'll bet you a dollar a ton of Arkansas fans hop in their RVs and drive up the prices on the street. I'm with you once the ND replacement doesn't have a large traveling fanbase though.

M-Wolverine

November 16th, 2012 at 12:05 PM ^

 

Moeller: Well this is what we do, and this started with Bo way back when. The seniors are the leaders. You can be the worst football player on the team. If you come to all of the workouts and you do everything you are supposed to do to be a part of that team—you are always on time, you are positive or whatever—when you become a senior you are one of our leaders.

 

Bluegriz

November 16th, 2012 at 1:18 PM ^

Sure, save some coin by buying all your season tickets on stubhub.  Here's what you get if you step up and get your season tickets the old fashioned way:

  • 100% of your money going to Michigan, instead of nonzero % going to StubHub
  • Face value ticket cost for things like the Cowboy Classic
  • Face value ticket cost for bowl games
  • Peace of mind that you have your tickets, and that you won't need to be spending tons of time on StubHub
  • Priority over general public to buy additional single game home tickets, away game tickets, B1G championship tickets
  • Priority over general public to buy basketball season tickets when they do things like re-seat the entire arena (regrettable example, but you get the point)
  • Accruing loyalty points, which can help improve your season ticket location over time, or get you parking passes if thats what you're in to

WolvinLA2

November 16th, 2012 at 2:08 PM ^

Your fourth point is one of the biggest.   20-somethings might not mind scouring StubHub 6-8 times a year for seats, but most of the season ticket types would rather not have to worry about that, especially if the return was marginal. 

Two things I would add to your list:

1. You have to sit in a different seat for every game.  The nice thing about season tickets is that your seats are always in the same spot.  It would be very tough to get seats even reasonably close to all home games in a given season.

2. Especially if you aren't really on top of it, you risk getting crappy seats for the big games, or paying out of your ass.  It's one thing for the bloggers who did that experiment to check StubHub all the time, but if you get a busy week and aren't on top of it, you risk either getting nosebleeds or paying a bunch extra when the big games come around. 

The luxury that experiment has is that they run with the lowest price they ever found for a given game.  But what happens if you find a low price, and don't buy it and the price goes up?  Or you jump on a ticket and the price goes down?  Very rarely would you actually get that lowest price for a given game.

BILG

November 16th, 2012 at 2:29 PM ^

It's not an inury that will keep him out of the NFL where he will probably be a return man or slot reciever.  You put a cast on that shit and let him go out and have some fun in his final game at UM.  Let him play a little running back, maybe return kicks, 7-12 plays will be enough for him to have some fun.

Definitely let him play against Ohio.  I am all about protecting a kid from further injury, but wrap that arm up and let him go out playing.  I get that its not 1950 anymore, but this isnt a concussion or a partial ACL tear.  

Caveat:  Of course, assuming he is not in pain and wants to play those positions.  I leave it up to him.

allintime23

November 16th, 2012 at 3:43 PM ^

Yeah, it'd be worth working your entire life to get to the nfl to run a few plays when you've already proven everything. What if he's tackled and lands in the same spot? He should play when he's ready to play. We all love him and he knows that.

Dana Dane

November 16th, 2012 at 5:45 PM ^

"Sir. You are named Sean McEvilly. You do not pronounce this like you are Scottish adverbial evil, nor do you have a luxuriously nefarious mustache. In fact you look about as evil as a schnauzer."

As a fourth generation Scotsman, I have to point out that a Mc is Irish and a Mac is a Scot. Granted, I could consider an Irishman evil, but I think of them more as a kindred spirit when if the context is jolly old England.

Scotland Forever!

Oh yeah, and on a Michigan note, I think Devin shows promise, I just hope that he's got a line with enough reps to let him work. (Next year).

BlueFish

November 18th, 2012 at 6:01 PM ^

Okay, I don't know where to put this, or if it's even useful at this point.  But I'm going through my massively overflowing paper inbox to make space in the den for a Christmas tree, and I want to shred these stupid StubHub receipts.  So preserved here for posterity are the prices I received via the StubHub U-M Marketplace for my two seats (Section 41, Row 35) in 2011.  These values represent the final payout and do not include StubHub fees.

ND $364

EMU $60 (not on StubHub)

SDSU $85

Minn $102

Purdue $102

Neb $134

Glad I moved to A2 and can now make all the games, because it's nearly impossible to recoup the investment on tickets that face at $75+.