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Brian April 6th, 2012 at 2:58 PM



Burkedate. You've probably seen this from Beilein:

My coaching staff and I have met with Trey and his parents several times over the past two weeks. Collectively, we have gathered and shared with each of them some necessary information that we feel will help Trey make the most informed decision for his future.

The Burke family has been very receptive to our assistance and appreciates that we have encouraged Trey to take his time and look at all of his options between now and the April 10 deadline.

With only one full week of classes remaining, Trey and his teammates, like all students at Michigan, are working diligently to complete their assignments and prepare for final exams.

Hopefully we can exhale about that Guptill tweet. A reader noted that  "move sci" is one of those massive 101-level lectures that doesn't take attendance and probably has as multiple choice exam—ah, Anthro 101 fulfilling my R&E requirement. Burke's probably not missing anything other than quality time with the Daily crossword.

As for where the needle's pointing on a departure, it hasn't moved since yesterday when the forecast called for despair with a small pocket of hope starting at about 3 PM. I don't have anything new, and given the situation anything other than an official declaration one way or the other is going to be worth little.

Go Ferris. Ferris State beat Union yesterday to advance to the NCAA hockey championship game against a rampant BC. For state pride and underdog status and to put the Ferris program on solid footing in the coming hockey New World Order, a Bulldog championship would be sweet. The game is tomorrow at 7 on ESPN2.

In danger. Josh Furman's absence from practice has been attributed to "administrative" issues that aren't academic, and this gives off a whiff of doghouse:

When asked how safety Josh Furman has been doing during camp, Mattison reversed course and said Michigan head coach Brady Hoke would have to answer that.

Dollars to donuts Furman's got a strike or two to his name. Being held out of spring practice is not a good sign. Meanwhile, Marvin Robinson will plead to a lesser charge in his having-a-"concussion"-that-held-him-out-of-eight-games case. He's practicing, so extrapolate Furman's situation from that.

RELEASE THE MCALBRECHTKEN. It's back to the drawing board for the internet nickname but it looks like the brief, passionate courtship between Michigan and Spike Albrecht will come to a satisfactory conclusion. The NWI Times reports that he's "expected to sign" today—should be "commit" since the signing period doesn't start for a few days. Coach quote:

"Spike always played at a high level for us," Swan said, "but to see what he did at the highest level of prep school ball this past year, that was remarkable.

"I know the Michigan staff is very excited about Spike and I know I am really happy for him. He's worked really hard for this opportunity."

Finally we have our revenge on Appalachian State. Can we cancel that game now?

Albrecht's presumed commitment gives Michigan a point guard in the event of a Burke departure; they've still got one or two open slots for 2012 depending on how that goes and a third scholarship they could spend on a grad-year transfer. Speaking of…

[HT: UMHoops]

Another name for the transfer mill. Boston College's Matt Humphrey has decided to spend his last year of eligibility elsewhere. He's more of a wing or shooting guard and did not stand out amongst the wreckage that was BC's most recent season, but he was their second-leading scorer. BC Interruption on his game:

Humphrey was an enigma during his times with the Eagles. At times he was the offensive and defensive rock for BC, providing veteran leadership to a very young and inexperienced team. On the other hand he was impatient (shooting 35% from the field), and averaged two turnovers a game. He also showed an impatient fiery streak, sometimes making big turnovers in crucial moments.

As literally the only non-freshman who played more than a third of BC's minutes, it's hard to judge how he'd contribute to a better team. BC was 9-22 last year. His efficiency numbers are poor—he was 40% from 2, 31% from three—but shot selection had a lot to do with that. Presumably the shots would be better here.

With a BC degree in hand the academics shouldn't be a problem.

Why do you keep hitting yourself? Ramzy posts up an 84-year-old OSU program written by Brady Hoke:


You there with the helmet: go forth and show that beaver subphylum what Ohio is all about. Well done.

Insert usual amusement at OSU fans getting terribly peeved about That School Up North not calling them by their official name. Not Ramzy in particular, just, you know, them.

Seven teams, pi semifinals, one and a half finals: The Delany Plan. I don't have to mention that Jim Delany's ludicrous three-semifinal plan for a "plus one" is ludicrous, right? This is how that would have looked the past five years:


Semifinals: No. 1 LSU-No. 5 Oregon (replacing Stanford), No. 2 Alabama-No. 3 Oklahoma State

Rose Bowl: No. 4 Stanford-No. 10 Wisconsin


Semifinals: No. 1 Auburn-No. 6 Ohio State (replacing Wisconsin), No. 3 TCU-No. 4 Stanford

Rose Bowl: No. 2 Oregon-No. 5 Wisconsin


No change


No change


Semifinals: No. 2 LSU-No. 5 Georgia (replacing Ohio State), No. 3 Virginia Tech-No. 4 Oklahoma

Rose Bowl: No. 1 Ohio State-No. 7 USC

The Rose Bowl has survived years in which it's lost one of its tenants to the national title game just fine. Over the last five years it would have had to replace three of its eight berths with… 11-1 Michigan (2007), 11-1 Stanford (2010), and 10-2 Oregon(2011). The Rose Bowl will survive a move to a four-team playoff just fine.

Tom Fornelli has the plan I endorse anyway.

Think of the children. Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott surveys his players for their desires in re: playoff:

While the players expressed a range of opinions, the "common thread" was their desire for some form of playoff. "If you're a competitor, you want a chance to play for it on the field, versus being voted for. That was made loud and clear," said Scott.

This has long been the case but now it matters because people have to backtrack on their lame justifications of the previous system.

Kind of, yes. Joe Nocera's been hammering the NCAA for months now but never has he taken on a more harpoon-worthy whale than that condescending ad you learned to hate over the course of the NCAA tournament. Not the Spandeau Ballet one. The other one:

If you’ve been watching the N.C.A.A. men’s basketball championship — a k a March Madness — you’ve undoubtedly seen the commercial. It’s an N.C.A.A. ad that shows college athletes pumping iron, running sprints and playing games. The voice-over, though, talks not about athletic achievement but academic accomplishment. “African-American males who are student-athletes are 10 percent more likely to graduate,” says the narrator. As the ad concludes, a female athlete looks into the camera and says, “Still think we’re just a bunch of dumb jocks?”

Well… it appears you can't do math:

But Richard Southall, who directs the College Sport Research Institute at the University of North Carolina — along with two colleagues, E. Woodrow Eckard of the University of Colorado-Denver and Mark Nagel at the University of South Carolina — have done rigorous studies that show the opposite. In comparing college basketball players with their true peer group — full-time college students — their data show that the athletes are 20 percent less likely to graduate than nonathletes. They also parsed the data by race: of the teams in this year’s March Madness, for instance, the black athletes are 33 percent less likely to graduate than nonathletes.

There are a lot of good reasons this may be. By the time a lot of players get to college they've been set up to struggle. But the relationship between money, prestige, and cut corners is clear.

Etc.: ESPN revamps its 2012 basketball rankings a final time. GRIII is #18, McGary #27, Stauskas #76. The overall class has dipped to #11. The OHL Draft is this weekend. Keep an eye on where commits Kyle Connor and Dylan Larkin go—the lower the better. More Albrecht scouting from people hitting up the full-game youtube videos of his team playing. An early look at the Alabama offense.



April 6th, 2012 at 3:16 PM ^

I know the ESPN team rankings look like they have been updated, mainly due to the date of 4.06.2012, but if you dig a little deeper you will notice they have actually not accounted for the changes.  For example, they still show Michigan as having 4 4-stars and list Mitch McGary as the highest ranked recruit.  Expect Michigan to move into the top 10 after Trey Robinson is credited with his 5th star.

M Fanfare

April 6th, 2012 at 4:36 PM ^

And their alma mater is "Carmen Ohio." And their fight song exhorts their team to "Fight the team across the field, show them Ohio's here." And their alternate fight song claims "We will fight to the end for Ohio."

OSU fans are not a very self-aware group of individuals.


April 6th, 2012 at 3:38 PM ^

Maybe I'm being a bit of a stickler, but those commercials refer to "student athletes" not basketball players. There are plenty of "African-American males who are student-athletes" that don't play basketball and football, and for all you or I know they are 10% more likely to graduate.

They might not be, but that research is checking against a claim that that commercial never made.


April 6th, 2012 at 3:44 PM ^

Yeah, same thought here.  We're not comparing apples-to-apples here and I doubt they would throw that in a commercial without at least one interpretation of the stats supporting it.

Also, did the second study analyze how many are going pro in something other than non-sports (I'm riffing on their other commercials, in case that isn't clear).  If you're goal as an athlete is to make a career out of it and you do, well, what's a diploma really getting you?  It's analagous to my time at Michigan in comp sci when the braniacs were literally offered signing bonuses to leave for Google and the like; not a wives-tale, it happened occasionally.


April 6th, 2012 at 6:23 PM ^


Maybe I'm being a bit of a stickler, but those commercials refer to "student athletes" not basketball players.


But strangely enough, that commercial runs during basketball games. What do you think the NCAA might want you believe?

There's an implied claim there - that the college basketball players you're watching are, in fact, graduating at a healthy rate, so you should support their endeavors.  Because it's not explicitly made, the NCAA isn't lying to you.  But hey, if you get the message mixed up and come away from that ad thinking that most college basketball players go on to graduate, the NCAA sure doesn't mind.

It reminds me how Bayer used to always trumpet that aspirin would reduce the risk of second heart attacks. Their ads technically said nothing about whether it would reduce first heart attacks, and at the time there was no evidence that it did.  If they'd made that claim, the FDA would have gone after them.  So they just kept on talking about second heart attacks . . . and if anyone couldn't tell the difference between an initiial and a secondary heart attack, that wasn't Bayer's problem.

Section 1

April 6th, 2012 at 6:31 PM ^

because that is when people watch them.  Field hockey and the outdoor track meets don't get the same audience.

But the ads are filled with the faces and voices of field hockey and track and wrestling and all other manner of student-athletes.

The consistent thing is that Joe Nocera is the same jackass, year after year, regardless of which sport we're talking about.


April 6th, 2012 at 3:43 PM ^

I've always hated those NCAA commercials.  Yes, student-athletes who play tennis or water polo are probably going go pro in something other than their sport, and they probably do graduate from college.  But the NCAA isn't making millions on the backs of female x-country runners, but instead the men that play football and basketball.  And those athletes, by all accounts, do struggle to graduate compared to their peers.  Yes, there are myriad of reasons for that, some educational, others systemic and social, but for the NCAA to act as if the system they have in place is such a godsend to the average athlete in a profittable sport is silly and disingenuous.


April 7th, 2012 at 12:33 PM ^

As far as I know the NCAA doesn't make a dime on football.  Theydo  make a ton on the basketball tounament.

And yes there are a lot more factors going into graduation rates.  Look at Burke and Morris.  Who's decision was it for them to leave?  Certainly not the NCAA's.


April 6th, 2012 at 4:53 PM ^

Guptill tweeted to Sinelli on Wednesday after all the news that Trey was going to the NBA something like "Well I guess we know why we haven't seen Trey in move sci the past month haha". While Brian mentions here that Beilein's statements relieve some worry and that perhaps move sci is basically an optional lecture, I know for a fact that he hasn't been going to other classes as well, notably the required freshman English class. I'm sure academics can be worked out should he decide to return, but he definitely hasn't been "studying diligently" over the past few weeks. Hopefully that changes and we have no eligibility issues.


April 6th, 2012 at 9:23 PM ^

Yikes.  I hate to be so cynical, but he does not attend a class for a month and has not been going to other required classes and no one is really sure if he dropped out or if this is just his normal schedule.

When you or I went to college, if we did not attend classes for a month it was because we dropped out or were kicked out.  No one had to read any tea leaves to see if we were still enrolled but just not going to any classes. 


April 6th, 2012 at 4:27 PM ^

The Delany playoff proposal is beyond asinine.  All it will do is make it even more unlikely that a Big Ten team will make the NCG. 

In both the 2011 examples above, the Rose Bowl winner, even if Stanford, would definitely lose out to winners of the the other 2 games.  

Delany can't be that short sighted, can he?  I hope hes just posturing so he can say "I tried to save the Rose Bowl"


April 6th, 2012 at 5:25 PM ^

If it's movesci 101, it's not a mega lecture course with multiple choice questions. At least when I took it way back in 2008 it was a class of like 30 (side note: ole Will Heininger was in my class). It's not exactly difficult, but his absence would be detrimental/noticed by everyone in the class.

Section 1

April 6th, 2012 at 6:21 PM ^

Back at the time when Stonum was dealing with his middle-period arrests, and Jamaal Berry was on his second Columbus arrest, it seemed to me that both programs had taken the position that an arrest would not automatically expose a student-athlete to suspension, but that once formal charges were laid, the player would be suspended until the resolution by way of trial, plea, dismissal, etc.

Naturally, the presumption of innocence rules.  I would insist on the presumption of innocence in Marvin Robinson's case.  But why is he not suspended, given past similar cases?  What's different?  If he is before Swartz, this charge is a felony.  Are we to understand that it is a "game" suspension and not a "team participation" suspension?

I ask all of this as a straight question, not as a rhetorical one.

One tough thing for Robinson is that the continual march of football activities puts pressure on him and his legal team to get a quick (in trial court terms) resolution, to get it behind him.  Including, as his lawyer suggests, a possible plea to a lesser charge.  If Robinson couldn't be assured of a certain trial date (to prove his innocence) until October, and if he remained on a game suspension until that time, he's screwed.  Better (more practical) to cut a deal that might be acceptable to all.  He'd have to elocute some level of guilt, however.

Zone Left

April 6th, 2012 at 8:51 PM ^

To be fair, over 90% of criminal actions are resolved via plea bargain. The prospect of paying a lawyer to go to trial, especially if the evidence is clear (of which I have no idea in this matter), is probably an easy choice. This is particularly true when you consider that Robinson is theoretically facing 15 years in jail if convicted at trial versus what I assume will be a plea deal for some amount of probation and community service.

Sac Fly

April 6th, 2012 at 8:13 PM ^

Troy Grosenick is a very good goalie and he is the only player I would put on the list over Parker Milner, who is not on it. The goalie who is on the list is Taylor Nelson. I'm shocked.

Milner: 28-5-0 .936 SV% GAA 1.68

Nelson: 21-6-3 .924 SV% GAA 2.06


April 6th, 2012 at 11:18 PM ^

This has long been the case but now it matters because people have to backtrack on their lame justifications of the previous system.

Not to sound like an elitist, but thank Buddha the 'Saturday-only' fans are catching up here and making the current bowl traveshamockery less profitable. I understand the current bowl traditions, and I respect people that want to keep them around because they remind them of their younger years, but I'm unconvinced that they are the optimal way to crown a champion (which to me, should be the priority for something that calls itself a national championship.)


April 7th, 2012 at 10:45 AM ^

No one gets "peeved" about the whole "Ohio" thing. The rest of the country is perplexed that something so childish and pointless has caught on like wildfire among the sheeple of the Michigan fanbase. If Coach Hoke ate his biscuits and gravy a certain way, Michigan fans would smugly follow suit, claiming that it pissed off people in Columbus.

This "rivalry" is so contrived and artificial it's comical for everyone outside Ann Arbor / ESPN.


April 7th, 2012 at 5:46 PM ^

I was recently on a flight and the stewey serving my drinks was an Ohio grad (I guess this is the value of a tsio degree these days). He spent 5-10 minutes talking about how much he hated being referred to as Ohio as did all of his Ohio cronies. Looks like your blatant attempt to troll isn't entirely correct.....


April 7th, 2012 at 11:29 AM ^

When I played, our athletic department at NU had plenty of dumb jocks. Certainly enough dumb jocks to constitute a "bunch". Many were white, some were female. We had the highest graduation rate in the nation for athletes so I don't imagine the rest of the BIG had any fewer dumb jocks. To be fair to the girl in the commercial we were not "just" a bunch of dumb jocks as we did put football players in to NU med school and some of my teammates went to Harvard B school. Quite a spectrum at the training tables.


April 7th, 2012 at 5:36 PM ^

Love it. He really shouldn't leave. He has a home at Michigan now. He wouldnt even do anything in the NBA besides make some ca$h. He can get better now in college and make more cash later