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Brian September 16th, 2019 at 1:10 PM

That's a shame dot gif. The Pac-12 has confessed to an error:

Michigan State should have been given a third chance to kick a game-tying field goal late in Saturday’s game against Arizona State, the Pac-12 Conference said Sunday in a statement.

The league acknowledged its officials erred on what became the final play of a 10-7 loss for the Spartans. As MSU kicker Matt Coghlin missed a 47-yard attempt that could have sent the game to overtime, an Arizona State player illegally jumped over the Spartans’ line, but the officials, a Pac-12 crew, did not throw a penalty flag.

This was just desserts after a horrendous pass interference call on Arizona State to even get MSU within field goal range. It gives MSU something to focus their rage on that's not scoring seven points in a football game in 2019, though, and provided a platform for last weekend's king of the tweets:

[After THE JUMP: hairless mascots]

Let's dwell a bit. As hilarious as it was for MSU to lose a game 10-7, I don't think that's as good as we want it to be for the game down the road. MSU outgained Arizona State nearly two-to-one; last year Arizona State had a yardage advantage. Maybe ASU's defense is as bad as it was last year, when MSU gaining 377 yards was a prelude to hilarity, not competence.

From a "let's win this football game" perspective I'd rather see MSU win games like they did against Tulsa, where a bunch of opponent pratfalls obscured a pretty horrible performance, than a loss like ASU, where a bunch of MSU pratfalls obscured a yardage ass-kicking. From a point-and-laugh perspective there's no competition, obviously, but it does look like a fair portion of MSU's issues last year were from the Lewerke injury. He again looks functional.

On Eubanks. Max Marcovitch:

Nick Eubanks felt chills when he heard the play-call. He knew it was one designed to free him over the middle, a play Michigan had practiced repeatedly in the lead-up to its Nov. 17, 2018 bout with Indiana. He lined up on the right side of the line, put his hand on the ground, heard the cadence and started flying as if carried by the wings of an angel.

He released up the field, darting up the seam through the Hoosiers’ defense. As Zach Gentry broke to the corner and the safety chased, Eubanks knew the rest was inevitable. It was a moment born of unspeakable tragedy and unthinkable resilience, and finally it was all his. His, and nobody else’s. Gone, if only for an instant, was the burdensome past. The end zone beckoned.

Eubanks caught a dart from Shea Patterson at the opposing 20. There was nothing but green grass in front, but his head jolted right, left and right again to be sure. It was the first touchdown of his career. Then he crossed the goal line, as the band played “The Victors” and the roar of 110,000-plus washed over.

He didn’t hear much, but he felt plenty.

Run game items. Long runs are pretty random so this should make you feel a bit better about Michigan's ground game through week three:

Getting Runyan back should also help. Also not going through a game where the one QB pull gets blasted by a corner blitz.

Nooners. Rutgers, Maryland, and Iowa are all listed as noon games on MGoBlue. That probably means Notre Dame will be at night—Michigan won't play MSU at night and OSU is at noon as usual.

We should have tried this with Ibi Watson. If you've flipped on a Kentucky game this fall you may have been bothered when Kentucky's giant receiver does something like this…

…and you're like "why do I know his name?" Well, Ahmad Wagner played basketball at Iowa for three years, where he was a low usage, low-efficiency wing who seemingly only got playing time because Fran McCaffrey gets itchy if he doesn't play 11 guys. Here's a dunk he did.

Hooray. But while Wagner was just a guy as a small forward, he is physically overwhelming at WR:

The former University of Iowa small forward hauled in 3 receptions for 70 yards against Florida, including a juggling, 26-yard TD catch that confirmed his status as one of the most unique and overlooked weapons in the country. He also drew a pass interference penalty in the 4th, extending a frankly incredible ratio: On just 18 career targets, Wagner has come down with 9 receptions and drawn 8 (!) pass interference flags against smaller DBs overwhelmed by his size and ability to box them out on jump balls.

Anyway, throw the ball to Nico Collins.

Low expectations. Andy Katz has a bracketology out with the following features:

  • 4-seed Purdue
  • 5-seed Illinois
  • 5-seed Ohio State
  • 8-seed Wisconsin
  • 8-seed Penn State(!!!)
  • Michigan in a play-in game.

So that's two teams that lost 35% usage guys, an Illinois team that hasn't been to the tourney since 2013 and was 7-13 in league play, an OSU team that was 8-12 in the league, and Pat Chamber's first bid in nine years at Penn State ahead of a Teske/Simpson/Livers core.

Michigan's going to take a hit without Beilein but jeez. At least it'll be easy to be a positive surprise.

Why would you do this? A person has spent some amount of time removing all the hair from various college basketball logos.

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Of all the ways in which to spend time, this seems the least worthwhile. But you should look at them anyway.

Yoder of the week. Reports that Michigan suffered a major injury in practice are false, per Sam Webb. Never Yoder.

Skinner bill updates. Ted Tatos doesn't think much of the NCAA's arguments:

Those familiar with the O’Bannon v. NCAA case may be hard pressed to stifle their laughter upon seeing the NCAA trot out such risible, well-refuted claims. …

…the California bill does not prevent any other state’s colleges and universities from participating in the NCAA cartel’s collusive restrictions. Nor does it prevent California’s own schools from continuing to collude with other NCAA members to limit athlete compensation in other areas. The bill simply says that California universities cannot participate in cartel restrictions only with regard to NIL rights. In raising a Commerce Clause challenge on this issue, the NCAA would offer the absurd argument that SB206’s removal of a restraint on trade should be subordinate to a cartel’s nationwide imposition of that same restraint, a position at clear odds with the Sherman Antitrust Act.

Any claim that the bill would “burden” interstate commerce is suspect for at least two other reasons. First, the bill does not impose additional regulations. Rather it deregulates, freeing college athletes from the economic restraints imposed upon their own identities by the NCAA, an economic cartel that has lost the last two antitrust cases it has faced. Second, the benefits to athletes are not local. Colleges and universities in California, like any other state, recruit nationally and internationally. As such, the NIL benefits would not be restricted by any state boundary. Further, any third party may compensate athletes competing for California schools in exchange for their NIL rights, not just California companies or individuals.

The South Carolina version of the bill is about to get filed, but since it's filed by a couple of Democrats in a Republican-controlled state it might not have much of a chance.

Etc.: don't click here. This isn't even a nickname that makes sense? "Still a chance" Jordan Bohannon plays this year. For Iowa basketball. Not Kentucky football. Probably. Helicopter man. I completely missed Spencer's opener this year until now. Orion Sang on Charbonnet.

Comments

Big Boutros

September 16th, 2019 at 1:25 PM ^

I'm glad somebody said it. MSU's offense looks functional. It's night and day from last year. If we can dismiss our fumbles as flukes then MSU can dismiss its missed FGs and 4th down stuffs, too.

MSU reached the offensive 35-yard line 5 times in the ASU game.

1 TD

3 missed FG

1 4th down stop

If you "convert" the 4th down stuff into a TD and give them 3 made FG, that's 23 points. Still a weirdly low ratio of yards to points, but 23 points behind that defense is enough to beat almost anyone on their schedule.

SalvatoreQuattro

September 16th, 2019 at 1:40 PM ^

Reaching the 35 5 times isn’t very good. 

 

Considering  how limited ASU’s offense was. MSU should have been able to wear down ASU’s defense, but were not able to.

Lewerke is still wild in his throws. Stewart saved him on a third and long deep in their own end with a fantastic grab.

Collins shows elusiveness, but that OL isn’t good at run blocking.

I Like Burgers

September 16th, 2019 at 2:30 PM ^

Just for context sake on the reaching the 35 five times notes, Michigan reached the 35 eight times vs MTSU. However, two of those drives started inside the 35, and one at the 39. They had another start at the MTSU 44.

Against Army, Michigan had five inside the 35 in regulation and one of those started at the 25.

So whatever people think about Sparty’s offense probably also applies to Michigan.

Double-D

September 16th, 2019 at 10:44 PM ^

Lewerke threw some strikes that were dropped. The Dotson TE drop was bad.   The kid would be in Indiana right now untouched.  

MSU dropped balls cost MSU another 100+ key yards and maybe 2 TDS.  

Lewerke is playing much better but he still doesn’t do well with pressure and MSUs line is not good.  Let’s hope they don’t help on the DEs like Indiana. 

FreddieMercuryHayes

September 16th, 2019 at 1:42 PM ^

The offense was OK.  Should have had more points but MSU ran a lot more plays than ASU.  I think the YPP was something like 4.1 for ASU to 5.5 for MSU?  So that’s around average.  It wasn’t the double the advantage the total yards show.  The question is how good the ASU D is.  They were very good last year but who knows this year.  Also as someone pointed out their success rate was pretty bad.  So they were getting themselves into third and longs and diverting them.  They were above 50% conversions.  How sustainable is that?

Yinka Double Dare

September 16th, 2019 at 1:44 PM ^

Their offensive line is bad, and injured, which is part of why their drives stall out. And they lost one of their decent linemen, who would have been a guard on a full-strength line but had been forced out to left tackle by injuries, to an injury that did not look look good on Saturday.

Lewerke does look more like himself though, which will make them better than last year's version that played Michigan. But their running game is probably going to be a sludgefart against competent opponents, other than some occasional Lewerke scrambles. 

yossarians tree

September 16th, 2019 at 1:58 PM ^

It's a very basic offense that hasn't evolved for ten years and in it's heyday they had Couzens and Cook running it and some pretty imposing OL. Mork did nothing to adjust but rearrange the deck chairs, probably because he knows this is his last year and he didn't want to fire his friends. At least that's what the chatter is on Sparty blogs. They even see the tea leaves when they look at the way Mork's contract was structured. They think this is his last year.

TrueBlue2003

September 16th, 2019 at 2:44 PM ^

This isn't entirely true.  I didn't watch much of the game Saturday but flipped it on for part of the second quarter and one of the first plays I saw was a nifty RPO to the TE for 48 yards.  They've added some modern wrinkles (not many but some). 

It's certainly not innovative by any means and they still seemed to not call the right plays at the right time (Heyward run on 2nd and 14 of the same drive).

Even worse than the lack of creativity for them is a bad O line.  And they'll probably try to keep Lewerke healthy by limiting what he does with his legs and that's their one way to potentially mitigate the O line issues.  Of course, there will be no limits in the M game.

ColoradoBlue

September 16th, 2019 at 3:37 PM ^

I have zero inside info, but I have a hard time believing Dantonio would ever be fired.  Obviously, if they were going to fire him for off-field issues it would have happened a long time ago.  As for team performance, he has continued to field elite defenses year after year.  And while his offense has never been his thing, they have been good enough to keep in in the top half of the conference in most years.  That has to clear any reasonable bar the AD has set.  MSU has to understand that the downside to a new hire is far more dangerous than any downside to holding what they have.

ERdocLSA2004

September 16th, 2019 at 5:26 PM ^

Not color commentating.  Maybe “analyst” was the word I was looking for.  I’m pretty sure the big ten network has no standards for hiring former coaches for all of their shows though.  We aren’t talking primetime Fox or espn.  They will take anything they can get.  Maybe they could hire him as a rules analyst!

bronxblue

September 16th, 2019 at 3:52 PM ^

MSU's offense looks more functional than in the past but this is still a team struggling to score a TD against last season's 86th-ranked defense starting a ton of first and second-year players.  And it's at home.  

Lewerke looks better than last year but their offensive line is still janky and I'll be honest, I think their defense isn't as scary as I first expected.  Their front 7 is really good but that secondary looks suspect and I think teams with competent passing games (and it'll shock people here but that includes Michigan) should be able to mess with them.

JohnnyV123

September 16th, 2019 at 4:37 PM ^

I'm happy MSU lost but yeah does not make me any more comfortable about playing them. I thought coming into the year they had a legitimate argument for best defense in the country and with a mediocre offense could win the B1G.

Hoping to see a Michigan team this Saturday that can beat MSU and ease my feelings a bit

Kilgore Trout

September 16th, 2019 at 1:31 PM ^

One thing that I think is lost in the Skinner / NIL stuff is that the NCAA isn't a single thing, it's made up of schools who I assume get a vote. Giving a quick look through the list of DI basketball schools, I counted 25 California schools in 6 conferences (someone should check that). I would assume all of those schools would vote for a change to NCAA rules to allow them to stay eligible and would be able to convince some of their conference mates to vote with them. Get North Carolina or Florida to do the same thing and the votes should be close to being there. 

A State Fan

September 16th, 2019 at 2:12 PM ^

Hey, time to hop in here and offer MSU opinions:

- The offense is better than last year. I don't think it's good, maybe it could be, but it's definitely better.

- The offense is different too. Almost no under center, lots of 3WR and Pistol. Where they get bogged down is when they try to go heavy and just run under center, which is still too often.

- Elijah Collins seems like a good RB. Not at Charbonnet or Turner levels I don't think, but way better than Heyward. Heyward getting the 4th & 1 carry only to be stuffed by a single tackler was infuriating. In the stadium there's a lot of booing when Collins comes out ha.

- I still feel a lot better about the offense than I did post Tulsa. ASU is SP+ #8 D right now, though it's still really early, and we moved it alright on them most the time.

- MSU put together a ton of 3-4 first down drives, but because they were never in great field position, a 40 yard drive still put them at the ASU 40. That's how they ended up with a big advantage in plays, MSU would have 8 play 40 yard drives that ended, and ASU would go 3 and out (you know, until that last part)

edit: just went back and looked at the box score. Of 10 posessions, MSU went 3-and-out just once, and went into ASU territory 8 times. Only other possession ended at MSU 49 yard line. To end up with only 7 points is a wild combination of stupidity and bad luck

Goggles Paisano

September 16th, 2019 at 6:28 PM ^

What did you think about Dantonio wasting the play clock before the kick?  He thought about running another play and then it was too late.  He had to rush the FG team onto the field and alas, one person forgot to run off.  I put that squarely on him for not spiking the ball and then getting the FG unit out there with a full play clock.  

The defense also gave up a 4th and 12 that would have ended the game.  That seems to be forgotten.  

 

A State Fan

September 17th, 2019 at 8:21 AM ^

Late coming back to this, but that was an absolute joke. I do wonder if that was partially because of coaches in new positions. Dantonio admitted I think on Sunday that the coaching staff was confused and it took them way too long to make a decision.

and RE: the 12 men on the field - Dantonio said two players on the FG unit lost 2 players in the game due to injury (Presumably Jarvis and Campbell), but the Campbell came back in to play in the second half, so he and his replacement both thought they were supposed to be on that last second FG. Maybe a good reason no to run the FG team out there with 7 seconds left on the play clock...