Someone Find Michael Rosenberg A Darth Vader Hat

Submitted by Brian on July 10th, 2008 at 11:17 AM

Dude, seriously: what's wrong with Michael Rosenberg? Over the past few years he's been one of the few Detroit sports columnists worth reading, but he's rapidly descending into Sharp territory. His column on the Big Ten Network's Comcast deal was stupid, ill-researched junk concluding with this Plaschke-worthy array of "paragraphs":

But whether you're watching football or field hockey, just remember:

Comcast is in this to win.

And Comcast gets to define winning.

Stay tuned -- if Comcast will let you.

Comcast has signed a seven- to ten-year contract that guarantees the BTN placement on the digital basic tier, which 80% of the Big Ten footprint already recieves. That number will probably be 90% a couple years into the deal. These facts 1) completely invalidate Rosenberg's entire column and 2) were available to anyone who could peck "BTN comcast" into Google. Sharp pretty much wrote the same column. Ouch.

Guess whose latest extremely reasoned and fair piece is headlined "Embarrassing ordeal reveals ugly truths about U-M coach Rich Rodriguez"? Rosenberg, and the words that follow it are terrible. The only embarrassing ordeal here attempting to get through them. I have no choice. I am forced to deploy the fisk.

Finally, somebody at Michigan was embarrassed enough to settle West Virginia's lawsuit.

Not Rich Rodriguez. He is way too bullheaded. And not Bill Martin. He was never going to stand up to Rodriguez.

It took Mary Sue Coleman, the school president, to end this mess. Coleman was on the verge of being deposed, and she obviously didn't want to be dragged into it. Not so coincidentally, Rodriguez finally settled.

Hello! Right out of the box we are treated to multiple enormous assumptions, all dubious. We know that Michigan and Rodriguez had an agreement about the buyout from the day Rodriguez was hired, and we know that the deposition Mary Sue Coleman was about to give was about this agreement. Since Rodriguez's case was (perhaps unwisely) largely based on the validity of a clause he felt was not valid, clear evidence that he acknowledged the validity of the clause and planned ways to pay it equals lawsuit FAIL. Michigan knew they were going to lose and bailed. (Michigan did not pay or plan to pay any portion of Beilein's buyout, BTW, which appears to be the critical difference between the cases.)

This had absolutely nothing to do with embarrassment. It was about poor legal strategy and a hurried negotiation process that contained slipups.

What the fuck, Rosenberg? I pretty much expect Sharp to sit on his ass all day and fart out a 600-word piece of garbage without lifting the slightest finger to do any research, but you have proven to be a non-asshat. It took me two minutes to confirm all this stuff that had flitted through my RSS reader over the past few days. Two minutes. You suck.

Predictably, Rodriguez got absolutely nothing out of this except embarrassment. His buyout did not go down a dime. The U-M athletic department has to pay his legal fees. Rodriguez got a delay in his payment schedule, but that is a small victory.

This whole thing could have, and should have, been settled long ago. But RichRod was determined to fight West Virginia all the way to the bitter end. Anybody who has even driven past a law school knew he had no case, but that didn't matter to Rodriguez.

...or a university that had just hired a coach from the same school who had flirted with other jobs the year before and signed a contract extension with a stiff buyout clause and successfully negotiated that buyout down by 40% thought maybe the same thing would happen again. Which is completely ludicrous, of course. No similarities between those situations. Anyone who's driven past a law school could pick that out.

Martin should have told Rodriguez that this whole ordeal was embarrassing the university, and that the case was a lost cause. But Martin's legacy is in Rodriguez's hands, so he let his coach do whatever he wanted.

Again the assumption that the lawsuit was entirely Rodriguez's decision. I don't know what happened and I don't think anyone will, but we have an absolutely clear series of events here: Michigan agrees to pay part of the buyout, Michigan figures out it can't win the lawsuit, Michigan throws in the towel. Given that Michigan is and was on the hook for a large portion of the $4 million, isn't it reasonable to assume that they were going forward with the lawsuit?

The kicker here is the legal fees: Michigan pays them. Is that not an indicator as to who was behind the lawsuit? If Michigan just wanted to pay the thing and have it go away but Rodriguez was telling everyone The Truth Was Out There, no doubt he'd be the one footing the bill. I'm not saying I know exactly what went down, but the preponderance of the evidence suggests the university was at least an equal driver in the lawsuit.

Unless you've completely lost your shit and are flying off half-cocked without a shred of research or common sense, of course. Then who knows what happened? Maybe flying bears did.

There are only two winners here. One is West Virginia, which will get the $4 million it is rightfully owed. The other is those of us who just wanted the truth.

...wait, what? No way, man, I wanted Bill Martin deposed for six days so we could find out what really happened during the Les Miles fiasco. I want him on the stand with Tom Cruise bellowing "did you order the mizzen-mast furled?" over and over again until he finally cracks. We don't get any truth here. At least not fun truth.

We now know Rodriguez to be a serial job-shopper. His agent, Mike Brown, had pitched Rodriguez's services to Alabama, Arkansas and Lousiana State in recent years before pursuing Michigan.

This passage is outright dishonesty. Rosenberg makes it sound like the well-publicized Alabama flirtation was one in a series of dalliances stretching back over the years, and that Rodriguez was constantly looking for a way out of West Virginia. Rosenberg's own paper summarnized the deposition by noting that Brown contacted LSU "less than a year after Les Miles took over," which is a pretty weird way of saying "in 2006." Rodriguez was on the market last year because of his poisonous relationship with the dysfunctional, nepotistic WVU leadership. Brown was contacting everyone who might be interested. The only indication that Rodriguez had any interest in other jobs was Brown "speaking to" Chuck Neinas in 2006, which could reasonably be interpreted as the first sign of a rumbling discontent.

Rich Rodriguez was not happy at West Virginia. He looked to extricate himself. This is something any rational human would do, and very few would give the situation another chance after being on the verge of departure.

We now know Rodriguez doesn't believe in contracts. He signed an amended contract with West Virginia just four months before he left. He then claimed that the signed contract was not as important as a verbal agreement that preceded it - a laughable legal argument.

Every coach who changes jobs violates a contract. The reasons buyouts are in contracts is because contracts are violated. Coaching contracts are expressly constructed with the idea they will be violated. No one believes in coaching contracts except jilted fans and columnists with an axe to grind. Wanton naivete.

Rodriguez said in December that he was battling the buyout because "we have to do what we feel is right." He meant right for him, not the school.

This is an unsupported ad-hominem. Michael Rosenberg punches small children for fun.

Michigan is just a name to him. The school is just a platform for winning championships. This is evident in everything Rodriguez does, from his abandonment of a century-old captains tradition to his bristling at the notion that Michigan holds itself to a higher standard.

"The Michigan way is just the right way," he said in December, before adding that a lot of schools do it the right way.

Scraping the bottom of the barrel now. Michigan's traditions have varying degrees of importance. Winged helmet: 1000. Running under the banner: 900. How the captains are chosen: 0.0001. Pretending Michigan is Stanford: 0. Here, again, Rosenberg omits the context... if this thing ever actually got said.

The only reference I can find to it is in this article from the wonderful John Heuser, who must have found some time in between lying to Chad Kolarik and others to attend Rodriguez's introductory press conference. The Rivals transcript($) of the press conference has no mention of the quote and the audio file($) of the presser also omits it. Even if this quote did actually transpire, it was no doubt in response to some media guy questioning his recruiting methods and was a way of pointing out that Michigan will accept any athlete that meets NCAA minimums and the occasional Marques Slocum who doesn't. It is an accurate representation of reality.

Rodriguez is an excellent coach. I'm not sold that he is the right coach for Michigan.

He can charm the media, which is nice. But those who have attended his practices say Rodriguez's staff uses some of the foulest, most degrading language imaginable. I know coaches curse, and I'm no prude, but this goes way beyond a few dirty words. He belittles his players. This is a big part of why offensive lineman Justin Boren left the team. He felt his dignity was at stake.

Of course, a lot of Michigan fans would rather think of Boren as a traitor who couldn't handle tough coaching. They tell themselves Rodriguez is no different from Bo Schembechler, whose rigorous 1969 practices are part of the program's legend. And there will always be some people who happily make that comparison, especially if their income comes from Michigan football.

Tell yourself what you want. I find it sad that the University of Michigan is paying a man millions of dollars a year to humiliate some of its students.

Justin Boren left the team for a lot of reasons, but those who stayed behind think those reasons are mostly Justin Boren. Desmond Howard:

So I came up here (to Michigan) and I watched them practice. I was in the weight room working out, and two players started talking to me, and in general conversation they said, 'This guy, Desmond, was a complainer. He complained about workouts, he complained about practices.' And this is what they told me: 'Really, we're better without him.'

Boren was one of sixty scholarship players around for spring practice, and the only one who found Rodriguez's degrading language impossible to take. In the interim, enough high-profile players committed after observing Michigan practices to vault Rodriguez's first full recruiting class into the top five. (So far, obviously.) Shaun King is running around telling anyone who'll listen about Rodriguez's general brilliance. Rodriguez coached up and held together a high quality football program for seven years. You don't do that without earning some level of respect from your players.

This shouldn't be dismissed entirely. The Feldman article on Rodriguez and Michigan had some piercing quotes:

"Rod cusses. A lot," says former NFL QB Shaun King, who played at Tulane when Rodriguez ran the offense there. "He takes some adjusting to. I hated his ass at first." Says Michigan wideout Greg Mathews, "You have to learn how to not take it personally."

I'd rather have a guy you didn't have to tune out. I'd rather have a version of Lloyd Carr who was ruthlessly cutting edge. That's not likely, though, and there doesn't appear to be any backlash from the actual players. Even the guys he ditched at West Virginia -- the most likely to have a beef -- were universally positive when interviewed in March. Slaton: "I'm happy for him because he gave me a chance." Reynaud: "Did I have any anger? I never did." They were given a chance to say their piece in a decidedly unfriendly environment; they praised Rodriguez, shook their head at some of the treatment he's receiving, and went back to West Virginia.

The bottom line for coaches is whether or not their players are happy once they're done. I don't think we have enough data to draw a solid conclusion yet -- Pat White has been quoted as saying it will be nice not to be yelled at, though I can't dig that article up right now -- but there are 60 players and 35 recruits and hundreds of former players, none of whom appear to have Amani-Toomer-like negative things to say about the program. They appear to like Rodriguez just fine. This is basically superficial.

When Rodriguez was hired, he and Martin spun the story well: Martin landed a premier coach, and Rodriguez, who loved West Virginia, couldn't turn down Michigan. The truth is not as simple, or as pretty.

The first part of the "spin" here is indisputably true. Rodriguez is a premiere coach. So the messy, ugly truth that's coming is about the hiring process. And what a mess it is...

On the night of Dec. 6 - several days after the Les Miles fiasco - Martin told several people he had hired a coach. He thought he had landed Rutgers coach Greg Schiano. But the next day, Schiano turned down the Michigan job, sending Martin scurrying for another plan.

This is actually interesting. More on Schiano in a separate post.

Schiano's financial adviser, Mike Wilcox, nudged Michigan in the direction of another of his clients: Rich Rodriguez.

Rodriguez wanted a chance to compete for national championships. Martin saw a chance to hire a big name. They were in love with each other's names - so much so that they failed to do their due diligence.

Martin met with Wilcox before he ever talked to Rodriguez. When Martin finally met Rodriguez at Wilcox's office in Toledo, he brought Coleman with him.

Martin and Coleman did not go to Toledo to interview Rodriguez. They went there to hire him.

At Rodriguez's introductory press conference, he was still selling the line that he was in Toledo to meet with his financial advisor. You know, like they were discussing tech stocks and all of a sudden the president and athletic director at Michigan magically appeared in the room.

The ugly truth... Martin and Coleman wanted to hire Rich Rodriguez and did so? BUT THEY DID IT IN TOLEDO! I guess the upshot of the passage is that the Rodriguez hiring was rushed so Martin and Coleman couldn't find out the awful truth.

But what's the awful truth? Rosenberg's leveled the following criticisms:

  • Rodriguez selfishly dragged Michigan into a lawsuit they wanted no part of. This is very probably untrue.
  • Rodriguez looked for other coaching jobs. Uh... I have a feeling they knew this. Call it a hunch.
  • Rodriguez didn't care about his contract. I'm getting that hunch thing again.
  • Rodriguez swears and is "degrading."

So... that's it. Rosenberg has heard Rodriguez is mean at practice in a way that has turned off one scholarship player. I raise with Ty Law and Amani Toomer.

Rodriguez might win big at Michigan. But if he does, and he demands a big raise every year, or flirts with other employers, or ignores his contracts, or refuses to put the school's interests ahead of his own, then Michigan fans should not be surprised. As we have seen in the last few months, this is who he is.

Michigan is a terminal college job and if Rodriguez is flirting with the NFL despite running an offense the NFL isn't ever going to run... uh... okay. I think I can deal with that, as it will come after a Spurrier-esque run of fun, ass-kicking football. This is the big objection? Rich Rodriguez may someday take another job? Rodriguez has every right to take whatever job he pleases, and he tried to make his situation at West Virginia work despite West Virginia's best efforts.

A question between this and the Grady thing: what is it with sportswriters offering no quarter? Rosenberg just wrote two straight columns that were garbage and I'm still trying to be polite-ish to a guy who's proven to be a solid columnist in the past. I'm not doing a good job, but assuming he stops writing hysterical, ill-researched trash I can, like, forgive and forget. If Rodriguez has committed any sins they're ones just about every coach has. And yet...

Comments

SFBayAreaBlue

July 10th, 2008 at 11:33 AM ^

of the internet.  Newspapers are dying a slow death and so they think that writing assclown opiniated bullshit is the only way to rile up people and get their clickity clicks. 

 

"Who cares about the truth when I can say negative things about people to get my column picked up in columbus and west vuhjinya!!!!"

SFBayAreaBlue

July 10th, 2008 at 11:29 AM ^

decronstructing that awful article.  Does anyone have rosenbugs email address so I can set up a bot to email him this post every 10 minutes?  Actually, i'm not that good at the programming, can someone else set up the bot too?

Dana

July 10th, 2008 at 11:34 AM ^

I'm surprised you guys care about what Rodriguez is like as a coach or person, or what is written about him. You still have Barwis, right?

SFBayAreaBlue

July 10th, 2008 at 11:48 AM ^

I'm sure you wouldn't mind if a guy you never knew wrote a column about what a big whore you are, a column that is thrown in the face of all your potential new friends, co-workers, and family.  This kind of shit left unrefuted has the potential to hurt recruiting.  Fuck rosenberg.

Jebus

July 10th, 2008 at 11:50 AM ^

Giving him the benefit of the doubt, maybe this is like when you share a computer with someone and forget to log out. Cause I kept looking up at the top of the column to see where the picture of Drew Sharp was.

nicknick

July 10th, 2008 at 11:51 AM ^

Seriously, I read this column this morning and had the same thought, that Rosenberg is quickly morphing into Sharp. A more talented Sharp, but still Sharp. Somehow, I'm sure that this is all ESPN's fault.

unidled

July 10th, 2008 at 11:57 AM ^

Rosenberg's article is so full of assumption, innuendo, vitriol, outright guessing and biased opinion it is almost unreadable.Damn the facts just keep tossing the crap, it'll stick somewhere. This piece is a product of the William Randolph Hearst class in yellow journalism.

Jay

July 10th, 2008 at 11:59 AM ^

Brian, I swear the first thing that I thought of yesterday when I heard that MSC and Martin were set to be deposed was that we were FINALLY going to hear the truth about how the coaching search went down. I've personally heard 3 different versions of what went down with MIles. The one common link throughout all 3 versions is that the false report by Kirk Herbstreit that Saturday morning of the SEC championship game did more damage to the Miles to Michigan cause than any of us realized.

esipp

July 10th, 2008 at 12:00 PM ^

As soon as I read his article this morning, I couldn't wait until you debunked almost all of his "arguments." And what really did get into a former Daily sports editor? I know he doesn't always have to defend the University, but I would at least expect him to get his facts straight before blasting them.

friend

July 10th, 2008 at 12:18 PM ^

Well done, although: 1) Don't give RR too much credit or discredit for the 2008 recruiting class. With the exception of few last minute players, the recruiting class was 95% set months before Carr retired. 2008 is really a Carr class and that in the long run may not work well with a RR offense. MSU is doing much better so far with 2009 which is an eye opener. 2) Don't assume Boren was the only upset player. He is the only one stupid enough to give away the free ride. Based on comments from the spring practices, he is not alone. Breaking with past history and closing the spring game should have sent up red flags (Saline has more than enough seating, parking, and overall space to support the game). Personally I think RR is a good thing for Michigan, but, that first game this fall will be the true test. The rest of the ongoing soap opera is just BS in the wind.

TDK

July 10th, 2008 at 12:29 PM ^

Note that 11 guys in last year's  class committed AFTER January 1.  I think you are mistaken that it was just a few "last minute players" that RR landed.  11 out of 24 (25 if you count Morales) and add the ones he had to re-recruit.

dex

July 10th, 2008 at 12:59 PM ^

You are so full of fail that looking at your post has caused my computer to go to the Blue Screen of Death three times, I am currently typing this from a co-workers computer that is much more used to idiocy and failure - he is a ND fan.

MSU is doing much better so far with 2009 which is an eye opener.

Says who? Any recruiting service? Rivals has us #4- where is Sparty? No #1, #2, or #3...so...what are we basing this? Oh, absolutely nothing? 

Based on comments from the spring practices, he is not alone.

Source? Any type of source? Anything at all?

Breaking with past history and closing the spring game should have sent up red flags

You are right - Rich should have completed the renovations on the stadium so that it could legally hold people, then he should have just let everyone in the world come watch his team struggle through the spring game after 4 weeks of practice in a brand new offense so that even more people could bitch about how it "made them sick" or how terrible everything is. Brilliant, absolutely brilliant!

that first game this fall will be the true test

If you are a semi-functional retarded man who can't look at the big picture and instead will base his judgment on one game, the very first game, then yes, you are correct. I'd say the "true test" will be the entire first two seasons. But whatever, go ahead and write him off at half-time of the first game in his first season, that works too. 

 

wyatt

July 11th, 2008 at 1:12 PM ^

Christ, man.  Having anger issues?  However valid your critique might have been, the most obvious thing that you've proved is that you are an intolerant dick.

Callahan

July 10th, 2008 at 12:18 PM ^

The little factoid completely lost on Rosenberg is that WVU is the one that filed the lawsuit -- not Rodriguez. WVU could have but did not file a lawsuit in the Beilein case, but then again, WVU wasn't dead set upon getting revenge on Beilein. And personally, I think that what came out was much more embarrassing to WVU than Rodriguez or Michigan. Rodriguez is just like any guy that went through a messy divorce that became worse because the ex-wife claimed he beat her, only to be exposed as a psychopath. Sure he had to pay her support, but at least he's free of that mess.

cougar blue

July 10th, 2008 at 12:18 PM ^

this is a rotting business. They don't just do this in sports. It is in everything, politics (please show me the evidence they are not propping up a certain candidate), business, hell even movies. You always enjoy the movies that reviewers say are horrible, and vice-versa. Ths means we have the right coach! I hate the media when they sensationalize everything and then leave out the FACTS and evidence to the contrary...

Voice of Reason

July 14th, 2008 at 2:13 AM ^

Brian-UM totally capitulated. Coleman didn't want to have to explain under oath what happened in Toledo and what she knew. Rosenberg and Carty have the courage to expose the truth even though pathetic homers will get angry. Do you really think the Brandys and Bacons are true journalists? Cougar Blue-you must mean the media is in the tank for McCain. Compare the lack of attention to Pastors Hagee and Parsley to the pile on regarding Rev. Wright. All through the 2000 and 2008 primaries right wingers cried that the media loved McCain-he even joked that they were his base.

 

Tauro

July 10th, 2008 at 12:22 PM ^

Brian, that was a great piece of writing. A great read! I cannot agree with you more. RR will do what is ultimately best for him in the end. As do the vast majority of people. Loyalty only stretches so far, and so long as RR is the head coach at Michigan, I expect him to put 100% into his job. If and when he ultimately departs for greener pastures, I will wish him luck. Frankly, I could care less about the lawsuit, or the circumstances surrounding his being hired. All I care about is what he will do for the team now and in the future.

papabear16

July 10th, 2008 at 12:24 PM ^

Brian, First, I thought this was a wonderful post. As a trial attorney, I'd like to offer a few thoughts. Granted, I have not read every deposition and pleading in this case, nor have I read RichRod's actual contract. With that said. 1. You are almost certainly correct that this lawsuit was driven by Michigan, as they have probably always had the biggest piece of this pie. RichRod would not have offered to foot the bill to save Michigan millions of dollars. 2. A contract is not a binding promise, contrary to many people's belief. A contract, instead, is an agreement to do something, or pay the damages that result. It allows people to go forward in business and know that they will be made whole. Either the roofer will fix my leak, or he'll return my deposit. My secretary will work for me, or I will not have to pay her salary. Particularly in the coaching industry, where RichRod could have been fired by WVU (or Michigan) for many reasons before the contract expires, he, too, can terminate. He just has to pay any damages for doing so. 3. RichRod's case was not actually weak. Unlike Rosenberg (I think), I went to law school, and at Michigan, in fact. Under the doctrine of fraudulent inducement, one remedy is recission. This means that if you lie to me to get me to enter into a contract, I can ask the court to tear that contract up. This is rarely litigated because it is very fact-based. 4. So, my guess is that this settled because the lawyers initially thought they had enough of a shot to justify spending a few hundred thousand dollars to investigate, and that while that investigation had largely taken place, the facts weren't coming forward strong enough to win the case. Plain and simple. I bet the upcoming deps were a driver, too, but not because MSC was willing to pay $2.5 million to avoid being deposed. I just think they had discovered that they had a tough row to hoe, and that it wasn't worth the further distraction and pain to do it. They got some decent terms out of the deal, but basically folded their hand. Sometimes, half the lawsuit is knowing when to fold. Just my two sents from a nearby courthouse.

J. Lichty

July 10th, 2008 at 12:25 PM ^

RR is the Israel of the sports media. Even the nice things said about him are done in a backhanded negative way and he is always blamed for something.

M-Dog

July 10th, 2008 at 12:36 PM ^

I think we have him for about 5 to 7 years.

His grand experiment either fails and we run him out of town, or he is successful and gets the itch to move on to the next big thing (Some NFL job, or maybe, just maybe, a warm weather glamour D1 school).

Much as I would like him to be a "Michigan Man" for life and be buried in Ann Arbor next to Bo, I don't expect it. OK, I'm at peace with that.

So Rich is probably a mercenary. So be it. We wanted a "modern" coach with attitude, ala Stoops or Meyer, now we got one with all that entails. Surprise, he ain't Lloyd. Let's just enjoy the ride and see what happens.

El Wolverino

July 10th, 2008 at 12:44 PM ^

Not details

  • When Ty Law wanted to leave early, LC was apparently a bitch about it. Ty Law is not one of those proud alums ( hence he says the HS name )
  • Amani Toomer's case was strange ( Brian had a post about it, search it ). He was always treated as an outsider(?!) and he's quite jealous as to how Plaxico is greeted in MSU. 

hat

July 10th, 2008 at 12:38 PM ^

Obviously Carr did the majority of the legwork (since RR came in with less than two months to go), but we should not downplay the job RR did in keeping them in the fold. Teams that bring in outside coaches usually suffer far more decommitments than we did. They typically end up with much worse recruiting classes than usual. Our class ended up being about as highly ranked as it would've been with Carr.

TDK

July 10th, 2008 at 12:45 PM ^

As I said below, 11 of the 24 guys in the 2008 class committed after January 1.  Some would have anyway, but many would not have (IMO).  The legwork for these guys was NOT done by Lloyd, but by RR and his staff while at WVU.  He kept most of Lloyd's guys in the fold, and recruited/landed almost half of the final class in 2 months.  This was one of the greatest recruiting efforts I've ever seen.  Snake oil helped, but mostly it was good old fashioned hard work.

cfaller96

July 10th, 2008 at 1:24 PM ^

In the immediate aftermath of last season's recruiting, Brian made a passing mention about the fact that it is UNHEARD OF for a team in transition with a brand new coach to deliver a Top 10 (or even Top 15) recruiting class.  It just doesn't happen, ever, yet it happened at Michigan.

Now, maybe a good class was hauled in because "We're Michigan!" and all that.  Maybe Michigan recruits itself, and the coaches simply need to man the phones in order to deliver the 4* and 5* bodies.  Maybe.  Or maybe, just maybe, RichRod and his crew are Closers and can actually, you know, recruit.

Or maybe it's a little bit of both.  Regardless, I'm NOT worried about recruiting, based on the fact that last year's recruiting was better than any other recruiting effort by a team in transition.  Even in rough times, Michigan is able to perform at a higher level.

/Typical Michigan Arrogance

hat

July 10th, 2008 at 12:41 PM ^

Ty Law doesn't like Carr, apparently because Carr told him in 1994 (when he was the DC and DB coach) that he wasn't ready for the NFL. Law has held on to this grudge for a long time. I read somewhere where Brady tried to get the two to patch things up (when Law was at NE), but couldn't do it. Toomer's beef is more that he thought Carr simplified the offense too much in 1995, Toomer's senior year, and caused him to be misused. (I don't blame him, but to be fair, sophomore Griese was a really bad QB.)

Huss

July 10th, 2008 at 12:52 PM ^

There stands Rich Rodriguez, verbally berating his players and expecting the very best from everyone on the team. There used to stand Lloyd Carr, calmly sipping his lemonade as years and years worth of expectations and elite recruitment results in little more than a team full of spare tires and 4 loss seasons. There's Rodriguez, young, spunky, lacking the consistency necessary to make it and eschewing gentleman's agreements and pizzas for players before every game. There once stood Carr, grizzled, determined, full of veteran wisdom as he exhales class and family values. Rodriguez, classless. Carr, selfless. Young. Old. Cocksucker. Cockfighter. Plaschke.

Gadfly Guy

July 10th, 2008 at 1:13 PM ^

Another negative column begets another populist stance from Brian. *yawn* It's like no one has actual opinions anymore. What happened to "Hurrah, who cares, let's play football."?

big gay heart

July 10th, 2008 at 1:25 PM ^

You're spot on with this, Brian. To me, Rosenberg's article and your assessment of it highlights the fatally flawed line of operative reasoning behind Bissinger’s argument against non-traditional reporting [ie: former engineers blogging in space]. Bissinger assumes that traditional media actually performs a perfunctory and responsible amount of research before creating its journalistic "product." However, as Rosenberg (a decent reporter, by all accounts) demonstrates, that just isn’t always (or often, depending on perspective) the case. Specifically speaking, - and as you pointed out - Rosenberg makes an assortment of factually incorrect statements about Rodriguez, the University of Michigan, and the contractual dispute. Obviously, and glaringly, this shows a total contempt for a fair assessment of the situation at hand. I mean, the stuff Rosenberg wrote directly and completely ignores the statement made by Bill Martin, not to mention other information readily available form other news sources, be they traditional or otherwise. So, if traditional media isn’t doing its duty, what are we supposed to do? In Bissenger’s world, the answer is simple; nothing. Stand pat and accept what we tell you. But that’s ludicrous. Remember, the ideology behind the formation of traditional media was to act as a watchdog, to seek and report an unmitigated truth. But there’s so much obvious intellectual complacency manifested on the part of traditional media. They’ve let us down, completely. If Bissinger and Rosenberg and Drew Sharp aren’t going to put in the time and effort to perform the bare minimum levels of research, then fuck them. If they’re going to blatantly present opinion as fact, fuck them. If they’re going to continue to make ridiculous and factually incorrect statements in order to move papers, fuck them. Non-traditional media is exploding because journalists have gotten fat and complacent and represent a sort of befuddling laziness. Simply put, blogs deliver better information more efficiently. At once, they’ve both supplemented and supplanted traditional news sources. To be fair, obviously, the sheer volume of voices and perspectives in the blogosphere obviously results in many of them passing along the same sort of erroneous information as presented by Rosenberg. But in niche categories, be it politics, sports, or otherwise, blogs like Mgoblog are incredibly well-versed in their subject matter and offer the most reasonable depiction of certain, specific subject matter. In short, if the traditional news media is scared of blogs, then perhaps they should examine their own institutional apathy and incompetence before throwing blame on bloggers.

Ninja Football

July 10th, 2008 at 1:26 PM ^

Well done, although: 1) Don't give RR too much credit or discredit for the 2008 recruiting class. With the exception of few last minute players, the recruiting class was 95% set months before Carr retired. 2008 is really a Carr class and that in the long run may not work well with a RR offense. MSU is doing much better so far with 2009 which is an eye opener.

 MSU is doing much better? The only way that's a correct statement is if you say MSU is doing much better than they have in the past. If you think they're doing "much better" than we are I'd say "Sir, please put down the crack pipe and walk into traffic."

 .... Breaking with past history and closing the spring game should have sent up red flags (Saline has more than enough seating, parking, and overall space to support the game).....

 HUH? Do you know how many people were planning on going to that game if they opened it up? Alabama, Ohio State, Penn State and Florida each had over 60,000 people attend this year. Nebraska had over 80,000 and our average Spring Game attendance is 20,000. Saline's capacity isn't much more than 10,000- and with the new hire there were projections of a huge crowd. But please, don't let facts get in the way of your opinion.

Ninja Football

July 10th, 2008 at 1:41 PM ^

Another negative column begets another populist stance from Brian. *yawn* It's like no one has actual opinions anymore. What happened to "Hurrah, who cares, let's play football."?

Actual opinions? What, like siding on the opposite side of facts and logic? Should he take a different stance just to be different and therefore have "an actual opinion"? If we were all sitting around and a guy started hitting himself in the nads with a hammer would you argue that Brian should have an "actual opinion" and go against the populist stance that hitting yourself in the junk is a bad move? Oh, and one last question: Does it hurt to be as stupid as you are? I'm just curious...

docraider

July 10th, 2008 at 2:55 PM ^

You've obviously misread the intent of Brian's comment regarding the end of the lawsuit. Never let facts get in the way of opinions as expressed by Rosenberg. This just made him look foolish and incompetent. Your use of Brian's quote of Hurrah etc. is not used in the proper context. In your response to Brian you've shown again your contempt for a legitimate response to the drivel from the Freep.

 

Ninja Football

July 10th, 2008 at 2:41 PM ^

So what are you bitching about? If it's the fact that Brian always writes a populist opinion in his posts you're completely negating your argument for your "opinions" explanation. As far as being "angry much" I just didn't see the point in your original post. To debate the validity of an argument is one thing, to simply whine because you find it boring is quite another. You remind me of people who bitch about the level of violence on network television. Has it never occured to them to change the channel, or to you to quit visiting this site if you find it so tedious and below your standards?