Pre-Tourney Mailbag, Part One: Judging Success, Sixth Man Effect, Two Bigs, Closers Comment Count

Ace

Yes, it's another multi-part pre-tournament mailbag, as y'all continue to ask a lot of good questions. While I've mostly got part two finished, I'm still open to adding another question or two. If you'd like to do that, email me or tag your question with #mgomailbag on Twitter.

What Is Success?


success: achieved. [Marc-Gregor Campredon]

No matter what transpires the rest of this month, this season has been a rousing success. This was supposed to be a transition year between the experienced 2016-17 squad and the set-to-be-crazy-talented 2018-19 team. John Beilein's most successful teams need a star point guard or Stauskas-like point-wing to run the offense; the players we expected to fill those spots were a MAC grad transfer and a (have you heard this before?) Kentucky transfer with an iffy shot. I figured it'd take a decent bit of Beilein coaching magic—baked into my preseason expectations at this point—to get this team somewhere in the five-seed to eight-seed range in the tourney.

While the season was on that track for a while, it's all come together late for the second straight year—Michigan has a three-seed and will hang at least one more banner in Crisler. We've seen talent development from Zavier Simpson, Jordan Poole, Isaiah Livers, and Jon Teske that's taken the expectations for next year to even greater heights. Luke Yaklich not only held up Billy Donlon's miraculous defensive turnaround; he built on it to the point Michigan boasts a top-five defense despite fielding a frontcourt with some very limited players on that end.

It'd be quite nice to avoid a massive upset against Montana; anything beyond that, even though M will be favored, is playing with house money. I will admit some greed, however, and mention that any loss will still hurt for two main reasons:

  1. John Beilein is 65 and it's difficult to predict how coaches will age. While I'm not seeing any signs of a decline—if anything, quite the opposite—there are only so many years left, and even when trying to set aside bias I can't think of a college coach more deserving of a national title.
  2. HOO DANG WOULD IT BE NICE FOR THAT TO HAPPEN IN THE YEAR LOUISVILE VACATED THE BEILEIN/BURKE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP AND FIRED RICK PITINO.

Fandom insanity aside, though, this season has already surpassed any reasonable preseason expectations, and the next one should be even better—so long as this team doesn't pull a 2014 Ohio State Football and beat the hotly anticipated future squad to the punch.

[Hit THE JUMP for much, much more.]

As The Four Turns 


despite shifting roles, M is getting good production from the four. [Campredon]

The twists of a college basketball season are funny when DRob can be the focus of our scorn one month, demanding he be benched and tied at the hip to Teske so Livers can play and then being a hero a month later.  While there are a lot of factors at play with his recent success, can you point to some aspect of changing roles with Livers that affects this?  I find it interesting that Livers was hot and deserving of a promotion, and yet now he starts but is clearly playing minimal minutes relative to Robinson and has not had a big game since they switched spots.

Adam
Chicago, IL
AC1997

While bringing Duncan Robinson off the bench has its benefits, I believe this is more a matter of this team figuring out its best approach over the course of a season than who's in the starting lineup.

Once the coaches devised a way for Robinson to be playable on defense, it was only a matter of him rediscovering his shot before he was going to take most of Livers' minutes—having a shooter who draws off-ball defenders like Robinson is so valuable in this offense. He's also much less prone to mistakes, particularly turnovers, than his freshman counterpart. Coming off the bench helps a bit—Beilein can still pick his matchups a bit—but Robinson is playing so many minutes that I think that angle is overblown.

Livers remains a promising talent and he's a decent rotation piece already; he's also hit the proverbial freshman wall. His usage, rebounding rates, assist rate, and turnover rate have all gone in the wrong direction since he stepped into the starting lineup. He hasn't been bad—his most important contributions mostly occur without the ball—but he's currently behind Robinson on both ends. There's nothing wrong with that; Livers is still on track to be a good player but the senior captain is outplaying him.

It's. Not. Happening.

pictured: Teske and Wagner playing effectively together.

I expect Beilein and Co. to break out some new wrinkles after all the time off to prepare. This won't be one of them.

Playing Teske and Wagner together negates the precise advantage Michigan holds over teams like Purdue: they put paint-bound centers in a bind on defense with their five-out approach and it's hard for opponents to keep pace by running offense through the post. Playing both bigs together would mess with the team's spacing and ask Wagner to operate at a position he's barely played at Michigan—this isn't like asking someone to shift between spots on the wing, as the actions the center runs are different from anyone else in Beilein's offense. And those are just the offensive issues; asking the slow-footed Wagner to potentially defend wings is a recipe for trouble on the other end.

The limited data we have suggests these problems are quite real. Per Hoop Lens, Wagner and Teske shared the court for 22 offensive possessions and 24 defensive possessions this season spread across four Big Ten games, none since a February 11th win at the Kohl Center that gave Beilein a lot of time to experiment. In the admittedly tiny sample, those lineups were bad: 1.05 points per possession and 40.0% two-point shooting on offense versus 1.38 PPP allowed with an 85.7(!) 2P% against on defense. That's with the majority of their possessions coming against Northwestern, Minnesota, and Wisconsin—not close to tourney-caliber teams.

If Wagner were (not) hitting the boards like last year, maybe this would be something to break out against an overwhemling offensive rebounding team. Wagner's been excellent on the glass, however, and so has the team in general.

Michigan would have to burn serious, precious practice time on a lineup that has a good chance of falling flat on its face. It's one that goes against Beilein's offensive philosophy and doesn't help the defense. I don't know why people keep pining for it. I'd be floored to see it in anything but a blowout, and perhaps even then.

The Closers


preferable to most alternatives. [Campredon]

I don't like this question (no offense, Neel) because there isn't a good answer here.

Since changing his free throw routine before the second Ohio State game, Zavier Simpson has gone 19-for-32 (59.4%) at the line. Prior to that, he'd shot only 46.9%. That's an improvement and there's reason to believe it can hold; the new routine has largely fixed his biggest mechanical issue, which is letting his shooting elbow flail out to the side instead of keeping it aligned with his shoulder. It's still not exactly an inspiring mark from the charity stripe, especially with his 1-for-5 performance against Purdue the freshest thing in our minds.

I still might go with Simpson, though. Charles Matthews has also seen incremental improvement but his season mark is only 55.1% and there haven't been significant changes to his routine that caused an inflection point like Simpson's. Isaiah Livers has attempted only ten free throws all year. Jaaron Simmons is 8-for-13 this season and would almost certainly be coming in cold.

It's not an ideal choice, but I'd go with Simpson. Given the available options, I'd want the superior ballhandler and defender on the court, and doing little things like using him as an inbounder (if he can run the baseline) can hopefully keep him from going to the line in a do-or-die situation.

Comments

Maize4Life

March 13th, 2018 at 12:50 PM ^

you hang a banner its a Huge success..For me personally Just get to the Sweet 16 and Im totally satisfied and happy...after the Sweet 16 its all gravy because at that point anything can happen and luck is sometimes involved..Just get to the Sweet 16 and Id call this season a HUGE success BUT if not Back to Back Big Ten Touranment titles will do just fine thank u very much!

aiglick

March 13th, 2018 at 12:51 PM ^

It would be disappointing if we didn’t make the second weekend but earlier in the season we were wondering if we’d even make it at all. I’m pretty sure nobody pegged us as a three seed. The seed is an accurate reflection of the season to date. It would be nice to advance but this season has been a success and is hopefully something to build on no matter what happens.

TrueBlue2003

March 13th, 2018 at 5:46 PM ^

First, I will be extremely disappointed when (if) we lose in this tournament.  That just comes with fandom. You always hope to win the next game and if you don't you're not a fan if you're not disappointed.  If we lose early in Wichita, it'll be an embarrassed/frustrated disappointment.  If we lose beyond that, it'll be disappointment that we were so close to something great (Final Four or National Title) but couldn't quite get there.

That said, the big picture view is that this has been an incredibly successful season no matter what happens. 

1) Beilein has definitively figured out a blueprint for (not) coaching defense that should be somewhat replicable even if Yaklich leaves (but please pay the guy because he won't be easily replaced). 

2) We've developed young players that should be excellent for the next 2-3 years. Z, Teske and Livers and Poole have all exceeded expectations this season. 

3) We have an excellent class coming in. 

Add those to Beilein's typical offensive genius and we're a program that should remain a top 25 outfit and conference title and final four contender as long as he's here and possibly well beyond since he's developing a nice coaching tree.

The future is very bright.

L'Carpetron Do…

March 13th, 2018 at 1:03 PM ^

Season is already a success but you know what's even better?  BEATING THE HELL OUT OF EVERYONE IN THE TOURNAMENT, LET'S BRING IT, GO BLUE  AHGAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Squad16

March 13th, 2018 at 1:15 PM ^

I think Sweet Sixteen really is the goal here. A Round of 32 loss wouldn't be able to truly dent all of the accomplishments this team has garnered, but it would feel slightly less. The only way I think the season becomes, only mildly, damaged is with a first round exit to Montana. 

snarling wolverine

March 13th, 2018 at 1:22 PM ^

The fascination people have with playing two big men is always interesting to me. 

What if we run into a team like MSU or Purdue in the tournament?  Well, then we play them the way we played the actual MSU and Purdue.

bronxblue

March 13th, 2018 at 1:38 PM ^

Success for this year was a banner, so the BTT is more than enough.  At this point, though, I think this team has a great shot at getting to the FF.  But this feels as much like a springboard year to future success, though I do think losing MAAR, Robinson, and (probably) Wagner will cause some issues.

Roanman

March 13th, 2018 at 1:40 PM ^

In my mind, I go straight to Artis Gilmour at 7'2" and Pembrook Burroughs at 7'0" of the Jacksonville University Dolphins, who went 27-2, averaging 99.9 points per game and lost to UCLA ... of course ... in the National Championship finals.

I'm not sure there's ever been anybody quite like them.

Steves_Wolverines

March 13th, 2018 at 3:01 PM ^

It's amazing to me that this team has had so much success, and are streaking at the right time.

Who would have thought a collection of players like this would be able to compete against future NBA players:

1. Rahk - A 2-star late addition to a large recruiting class who was heading to PSU, Richmond or Bucknell before Michigan came in and offered. Is now a clutch scoring machine and great perimeter defender.
2. D-Rob - We all know this story; A D-3 transfer who was Just A Shooter, is now a lock down defender too.
3. Z (previously X) - An undersized PG with terrible shooting mechanics; not a typical Beilein PG, and wasn't expected to thrive so we brought in a transfer from a MAC school...oops. Now he's a lock down defender, excellent at reading the defense and making perfect passes and finishing at the rim. Still needs to shoot better at the FT and 3-pt lines, but man what an improvement.
4. Bonus play from Poole, Livers, and Teske. These 3 have been huge in what makes this team successful.
5. Mo Wagner - A "weak" Euro player who could always shoot 3's, but wasn't strong enough to play defense or grab rebounds. Oops again. Night and day improvement from Mo. 

 

This is a much different composition of a team than Duke, UNC, Kansas, Arizona, and MSU. But maybe, just maybe, they can continue this hot streak, continue to play lockdown defense, and hit big shots to shock the world.

I say they are already a success. They went 2-0 vs MSU, they avenged their close losses to Purdue, they won the BTT, and received a 3 seed in the NCAAT. If they get out of the first weekend, and put up a fight against UNC, I think it's everything we could've asked for from this group. Rahk has cemented his legacy in the record books, D-Rob has shown it's possible to work hard enough to go from D-3 to competing and beating NBA talent. And I can't wait to see 2 more years of Z development under Beilein. The future is bright!!! GO BLUE! Shock the world!!!

Indy Pete - Go Blue

March 13th, 2018 at 3:06 PM ^

Any season where you hang a banner (B1G, B1G Tourney, Final Four) is an unmitigated success.  This season has been an amazing one.  Now, it is gravy time; lots of gravy.  Ace is spot on, Coach B is THE most deserving coach of a national championship in the country.  I think the next 3 years (this included) will all be prime opportunities to make that run.  Z and Teske will definitely be here for all 3.  I hope that there is some justice on the court with some lucky bounces/calls, etc.  Beilein represents everything that is good and pure about college sports.  

jsquigg

March 13th, 2018 at 4:40 PM ^

I fully agree with the Teske/Wagner lineup take.  I wouldn't even put them together against a big OREB team because there would be no OREB to grab.

JudgeMart

March 13th, 2018 at 4:44 PM ^

Z is my choice as the 5th player to be on the court during winning time.  The man's been a point guard all of his life and has been taking free throws in clutch situations since at least 6th grade (maybe even before!).  He is used to the pressure.  Once his mechanics are stabilized, he will be automatic.   

Jonesy

March 13th, 2018 at 7:50 PM ^

I figured this year we could be anywhere between meh and very good depending on how well Simmons played. Little did I know Simpson would blow up and be the one to take us to very good!

M-Dog

March 13th, 2018 at 8:31 PM ^

I'm jaded.  I started following Michigan basketball in the early 80s.  

During that time, until the late '90s drop-off, I got to see:

A National Championship finish,

Two National Finals,

An Elite Eight finish,

A Sweet Sixteen finish,

Two Big Ten regular season titles,

The inaugural Big Ten Tournament title,

Even an NIT title.

I got spoiled.  Anything less than a Sweet Sixteen was a disappointment.

Well the good news is, I'm back to that mindset.  Thanks to John Beilein's magic, I'm at the point where this feels like a sustainable program at a very high level. 

A Sweet Sixteen feels like the floor once again.