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Seth February 21st, 2022 at 2:06 PM

Early in Michigan’s loss yesterday to Wisconsin, Devante’ Jones leapt for an offensive rebound and caught it. On his way down, Badgers guard Brad Davison, the most notoriously dirty player in college basketball, kicked Jones’s feet out from under him. The Michigan point guard toppled to the ground. The perpetrator grabbed at the ball. The officials awarded Wisconsin possession on the arrow. Jones walked away.

The man Jones plays for had an opportunity to disengage from this:

What he did was hit—or to be more precise, down-slappily head-wuggled Wisconsin assistant coach Joe Krabbenhoft. Another view, where you can hear some of the exchange:

Howard’s slap precipitated a mini-brawl, with several Wisconsin assistants and players getting into it with a couple of Michigan players, and various others hanging around on the periphery or trying to break it up. He was quite clearly the most at fault of anybody for what transpired. It was a massive embarrassment for the university. It quite clearly can't happen again. Let's try to discuss it.

[After THE JUMP: Zaprudering the film, reaction, what’s next?]
 
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What happened?

Here's what I think I saw, to the best of my abilities, from a couple of videos, and trying as best I can to set aside my obvious Michigan biases.

So with a few seconds and a safe lead late in the game, Wisconsin head coach Greg Gard called a timeout on an inbound, ostensibly to extend his team’s clock from 4 to 10 seconds. Howard evidently took that as a cheap shot, a way to make his players wallow in their loss. As the coaches crossed in the handshake line, Howard told Gard “I’ll remember that shit.”

At this point Gard stepped in front with a “Woah, hey” and grabbed Howard’s arm to stop him from going by. It’s plausible Gard meant to explain his timeout, but the physicality clearly angered Howard, who grabbed Gard’s sweater, then let it go and put his finger in Gard’s face, repeating “Don’t touch me, don’t fucking touch me.”

Gard began yelling back, and his recruiting director, Kyle Blackbourn, arrived, then also put his hands on Howard. Jaron Faulds arrived and began pulling Howard away while a university police officer was pulling Gard back. Faulds put himself between the coaches, who were still going at it—what I can hear is Howard repeating “Don’t fucking touch me” and Gard replying “Oh you big. You’re a big man?” Howard was showing his fist.

Into this entered three people. Wisconsin assistant Sharif Chambliss inserted himself between the coaches and Faulds, yelling at Howard. Chambliss attracted the attention of the police officer, who switched from Gard to Chambliss, who in turn slipped behind Faulds and continued yelling at Howard.

At the same time Terrence Williams II appeared at Howard’s shoulder. Trying to lip-read I’m pretty sure he started by telling Blackbourn “c’mon man,” then twice told him “Stop!” For a moment it seemed things were going to break up, as a Big Ten official had arrived as well.

At this point Krabbenhoft inserted himself and started yelling at Howard and pushing at Terrence Williams II. Whatever Krabbenhoft said, it attracted everyone’s attention. Faulds looked right at him. The Big Ten official turned his attention to preventing Krabbenhoft from getting to Howard. Williams and Faulds joined the official in holding Krabbenhoft back and Blackbourn continued yelling and pushing into Williams. The group shifted back into the collection of Michigan players as Hunter Dickinson and Frankie Collins were pulling him away. Moussa Diabate stepped in next to Faulds.

Kraggenhoft caught the attention too of Howard, who now returned to the heart of the scrum by hopping behind the Big Ten official. Howard then used his open hand to reach over Faulds and half-slap/half-face mush Krabbenhoft across the left side of his head with some force.

The slappyfwish (technical term) wasn’t injurious, but it wasn’t soft either, and looked worse on camera because Howard balled his fist afterwards. That action, more than any other, precipitated the violence that followed. That it was committed by Michigan’s head coach is the reason it’s the story of the night.

After the slap, Krabbenhoft was pulled away by a couple of Wisconsin players. Blackbourn began grappling Williams’s wrists while Williams was seemingly trying to pull away. Michigan assistants Saddi Washington and Chris Hunter jumped in to break things up, with Hunter yelling at Michigan’s players to back away and Washington arming apart the center of the melee. Blackbourn gave Washington a shove with his fists (I wouldn’t interpret it as a punch), then too got pulled to the rear.

As Blackbourn was pulled away, UW assistant Sharif Chambliss, who had surged towards Howard at the slap, apparently leapt on Williams, taking him to the ground near the stands. I saw some Wisconsin fans online arguing that Williams pulled Chambliss down, but Williams’s hands were both clearly caught by Blackbourn when Chambliss came through.

The two of them disappear then you see Williams is up and Chambliss is past him (to the left of the yellow sweatshirt fan) and the two are grappling as Chambliss is trying to attack Howard, with the officer between them. The officer manages to get Howard away with the help of some Michigan players, and Chambliss goes down. A Michigan staffer I couldn’t identify (I think it’s Jon Sanderson) saw this and curled his body over Chambliss, shielding him, while Saddi Washington stepped in to clear people away from the fallen coach. The staffer (Sanderson?) apparently said something that got Chambliss to calm down, then let him up.

Chambliss got up near Adrian Nunez, who backed off. At this point Wisconsin’s Johnny Davis, who’d been helping to hold back Krabbenhoft, ran in to retrieve Chambliss.

When Chambliss went down, Williams turned around to find a Wisconsin player, Jahcobi Neath, who had entered the fray and started throwing punches at him. Williams punched back, then Diabate too took swings at Neath before they were pulled apart by Hunter. Wisconsin’s Tyler Wahl found Williams and calmed him down.

By this point things were deescalating. Gard walked back towards the Michigan players and yelled “Get off the court” then something inaudible. Caleb Houstan reacted to whatever was said and charged Gard but was held back by a teammate. The final act, once the teams were separated, was from Brad Davison, who was trying to lead his teammates back over towards where Michigan was exiting the court under the guise of going to sing “Varsity,” which I presume is a postgame tradition. Davison’s intention is not hard to read.

Finally a UW assistant dropped a late-90s reference you kids aren’t old enough to understand.

In a short postgame presser Howard explained “someone” touched him and he didn’t respond well to that:

This was not, as I understand it, an apology. Gard only explained the reasoning for his timeout.

Let’s talk about culture.

This is not the first time that Howard has been involved in an altercation with another Big Ten coach that threatened to turn violent. This was the incident last year with Maryland’s Mark Turgeon:

Howard, who received a double technical and was thrown out of the game, explained his actions thusly:

“He said to me ‘Juwan I’m not gonna let you talk to me, you don’t talk to me ever again’ and he charged at me,” Howard said. “...I was raised by my grandmother and also by Chicago. When guys charge you, it’s time to defend yourself.”

Those words resonated with a lot of people, including myself, at the time. Not all childhoods had this lesson, but in mine I learned the only way to not be a target was, in my father’s words “to make sure they learn the first time that a second time will hurt too much to be worth it.” It wasn’t until well into adulthood, when I was explaining the origin of a permanently misshapen bump on the left side of my left forehead, that I even questioned if that was the right lesson.

To say that my experience as the rare Jew in suburbia is comparable to what was going on in Coach Howard’s head when he down-slapped the Badger assistant would be ridiculous. I do not know his lived experience. I do not know what the assistant said. I cannot know what it means to a person of color to be grabbed by a white man, except I know enough people who’ve told me that would produce a visceral reaction not to try it with anybody.

I understood through my lens what he meant by “When guys charge you, it’s time to defend yourself.” That is the culture that many of us grew up in. But—and we have to agree on this—it’s not the culture of the University of Michigan, and it should not be the culture passed on to those who root or play basketball for that institution.

“Provoked?”

This is my response to anyone still trying to argue this morning that Howard’s actions are justified by Gard’s. If Howard had grabbed the sweater, let go, wagged a finger, and that had been the end of it, we could talk about how Gard’s actions reasonably precipitated Howard’s response. Howard’s response, however, is so vastly beyond the aggressiveness of Gard’s, and the aggressiveness of his assistants, that the two are not comparable. Exchanges of words are not the same as exchanges of blows.

There are three crystal clear moments when the situation heightened:

  1. When Howard grabbed Gard’s sweater and yelled “Don’t touch me!” which brought the UW assistants and Williams over.
  2. When Krabbenhoft slid in and said whatever precipitated Howard’s hit, which besides Howard’s reaction, appeared to induce the policeman and the Big Ten official to stop pulling the coaches apart and refocus on Krabbenhoft.
  3. When Howard slapped Krabbenhoft.

Two of those three moments were Juwan’s alone. I am receptive to reasons Howard had those reactions, but short of Krabbenhoft slinging certain words I think we would have heard about by now, there’s no valid interpretation of #1 and #3 that I can think of which would absolve Howard of his responsibility to deescalate.

In other words, stop arguing that these were equal. The worst actor in this whole situation was clearly Michigan’s head coach Juwan Howard.

What happens next?

There will be consequences. Howard will no doubt be suspended and fined for at least the maximum two games that the league can enforce under its sportsmanship policy.

As Quinn says, no doubt the incident with Turgeon, for which Howard narrowly escaped suspension, will factor. Michigan can (and probably will) choose to join the league and add to the suspension. Manuel’s crafted release suggests Michigan expects disciplinary actions, and leaves open the door to add to it:

I expect the league will hand out the maximum two games to Howard, and Michigan will tack on one or two extra. I would not be surprised if it’s more—up to the end of the regular season—because they have five games left and the season ends in less than two weeks.

His comments after the Turgeon incident don’t help his cause. That too was an explanation, which is closer to a justification than an apology. It suggests Howard believes, as a lot of us who grew up in the United States in the 20th Century grew up believing, that using violence to protect yourself and your people is how an adult should act.

I also fully understand that Howard’s perspective can be informed by experiences and history that I cannot fathom. Most non-white people I know would experience a visceral reaction from being grabbed in an authoritive manner by a white man, to the point where that’s something I know not to do. That wasn’t Juwan’s explanation, and not an excuse, but certainly part of the context.

None of that context changes the simple truth: for the head coach of Michigan basketball, this was not acceptable. If Michigan uses this opportunity to impress anything upon its head coach, it’s “Walk away.” The next time Howard speaks publicly, I want to hear that’s the plan.

What should it be?

Three or four games would cover the severity, in my opinion. Firing him would seem drastic. His action sparked a melee that could have resulted in serious injuries. It was also a slap, an action which we’d call a 15-yard penalty in football, a 2-minute roughing minor in hockey, or a “routine basketball play” on the same court an hour earlier. The severity of the infraction is due to Howard’s position as head coach, and the context that led to further violence between the teams.

I would not expect any other team would fire their head coach for this unless, e.g. Georgia and Tom Crean, they were just looking for an excuse to fire the coach without paying his buyout. Therefore any argument, to my mind, that Michigan should fire Howard rests in a pretention that Michigan is a holier place. In case that's not clear: it is not.

I also think it would be a very bad look for Michigan to fire Howard over this. While culture does not excuse actions, it’s a framework for understanding them. That goes both ways: Howard has a responsibility to Michigan to uphold the institution’s values while representing them, but Michigan has a responsibility to Howard to understand it doesn’t mean the same thing to a Black man from a poor neighborhood in South Chicago to be grabbed by a white man as the reverse. Pretending there isn’t a difference contributes to a cycle that has kept excellent Black coaches underemployed of the coaching profession, redefining being affected by a systemic problem into a reason to perpetuate it.

That in no way lets Howard off the hook. The school has to be very clear that it’s Howard’s responsibility to make sure it doesn’t happen again.

What about the Whatabouts?

  • Wisconsin recruiting director Kyle Blackbourn, the guy who deleted a tweet of himself with a bloody tooth, should probably get a suspension for escalating things, grabbing Williams, and shove-punching Saddi.
  • Wisconsin assistant coach Sharif Chambliss was one of the instigators and apparently tackled Williams. The video isn’t enough but if he assaulted a player he could be in serious trouble, including the legal kind.
  • Wisconsin assistant coach Joe Krabbenhoft, the guy who got hit by Howard, added himself to the argument and seemed to be the prime instigator.
  • Michigan’s Terrence Williams II was in the middle of things, and put himself there. He also took several swings at Neath.
  • Wisconsin player Jahcobi Neath entered the fray, was removed, and reentered to throw punches at Williams and Diabate.
  • Michigan’s Moussa Diabate entered when Neath did, and punched at him twice before they were pulled apart.
  • Wisconsin’s Greg Gard returned after most of the scuffle had ended and yelled something at the Michigan players.
  • Michigan’s Caleb Houstan reacted to whatever was said and charged Gard but was held back by a teammate.
  • Wisconsin’s Chris Vogt was on the periphery, but kept trying to swim in and engage.
  • Wisconsin’s Brad Davison was also on the periphery, and afterwards was trying to reengage hostilities by leading the Badgers towards where Michigan was going to the locker room, under the guise of singing “Varsity” with the students.

Barring more damning video evidence or testimony regarding Chambliss’s actions I would expect Howard to get the biggest punishment, and 1- or 2-game suspensions for the above.

Besides the officials and officers, a number of players and coaches did more than stand around, actively diffusing the violence and herding players back to the locker rooms. For Michigan, Saddi Washington and Chris Hunter did the most of anybody to break up the fighting. S&C coach Jon Sanderson and Jaren Faulds were in there holding people at bay without escalating. Wisconsin’s Tyler Wahl pulled several of his teammates back, and also pulled Williams out of there and calmed him down. Johnny Davis held Gard back then removed Chambliss from the middle of Michigan’s group. Tyler Higginbottom removed teammates. Analyst Andrew Van Handel was ducking in and out break up the sides and diffuse tensions.

If you’re engaging today with Wisconsin fans, show them the videos if they think their side is completely blameless, but first acknowledge that the worst actor in all of this was Juwan Howard, and that you are appalled by it. Or—you know you can do this—don’t engage with them.

As for Sparties who hop in your mentions, you should know that long before this or the Maryland incident the RCMB has been a nest of perpetual, unchecked racist dog whistling about Howard. Check them out before replying, and if they seem to be looking for a fight, block and move on.

Again, if you are out there talking about this, please start with Howard was the most wrong.

Can a Class B technical be issued to an entire program? Asking for a friend.

lol.

Comments

maizerayz

February 21st, 2022 at 2:14 PM ^

I'm still shocked that our coach, already separated and being held back by our own players, came back to throw hands and connect with another coach. HE is supposed to be the one holding people back, being the adult, representing the school with dignity and class. Not the other way around.

As Seth said, Howard’s response is so vastly beyond the aggressiveness of Gard’s, and the aggressiveness of his assistants. As Alex said yesterday, "your coach cannot be the one to go Sonny Corleone. Things have to change, either who the coach of Michigan is or the coach's behavior."

If the tables were flipped and Gard did what Juwan did, perhaps even hitting coach Eisley, many here would be calling for much more severe punishment. That's how wildy unbefitting his conduct/violence was of his position, putting his players, coaches, his boss and school in a terrible position. 

And sadly what's even more bewildering is that coach doesn't seem to fully understand what he did wrong. He doubled down at the presser.

I love Juwan and everything about him, was so proud such an amazing person and pro like him was representing the school. If I were still a student, I would have loved to take a donut from him from on diag as he wishes me good luck on my semester. I still can't believe this is happening.

MilkSteak

February 21st, 2022 at 2:40 PM ^

I'm with you on everything you said here. I love Juwan, but he crossed the one line that you cannot cross as the head coach of a basketball team.

Yell at the opposing coach, talk shit in the handshake line, tweet about him afterwards, whatever - that's fine! But you cannot escalate a situation like this and physically attack anyone. The head coach should be the coolest head out there when push comes to shove.

Anyway, from the looks of it the sentiment here is that a suspension is the move. I just don't know if that's right. Like you said, if Izzo were to physically attack an opposing coach we'd all be calling for his job. And I think that would be right! I just don't see how we can have a head basketball coach that's done something like this A) representing the school and B) leading a group of young men.

wavintheflag

February 21st, 2022 at 2:58 PM ^

Tough writeup and I applaud Seth for his taking it head on with his typical diligence but if I am being honest a lot of it is rationalization. Watching the video again I am still shocked that Howard did this. It is truly unprecedented and based on past incident and no apology a firing would be on the table. Juwan needs to step back for a bit and admit that he has a major anger management issue. Hope he can remain coach. It will be tough with so many recruiting against him that one small thing and your HC could be gone.

CompleteLunacy

February 21st, 2022 at 3:11 PM ^

All the context does is take it from “he must be fired” to “you should consider firing him, but maybe not”

Because even with said context, as Seth points out, he’s still easily the worst actor of the incident.

Now, I think I agree that firing would be extreme, and a suspension up to 5 games is probably the solution. But anyone trying to rationalize this otherwise needs to realize that Howard cannot expect to act like this AND be the head coach of Michigans basketball program. He’s being paid millions of dollars…that comes with significant responsibility, including representing the university. And his behavior is yet another black mark on our reputation. So maybe it’s not enough to be fired, but it’s certainly enough to wonder whether Howard is actually capable of running this program the way the university wants it to be run.

maizerayz

February 21st, 2022 at 3:27 PM ^

Agreed, and with the second suspension in 18 months related to anger management, sadly the universities legal department must push for an internal review to see if this sort of thing ever happened internally, with other coaches or players.

I am NOT saying it happened internally, and I'm 100% sure it never did, but my opinion is irrelevant to the schools legal team. Their job is to protect school from possible liability, past present or future, when any potentialy problematic behavior of its employees is detected.

Durham Blue

February 21st, 2022 at 3:27 PM ^

Yes.  The head coach has to be the one that keeps his shit together when craziness ensues.  It just has to be this way.  Like I said yesterday, shake hands (and it can be a cold as ice hand shake), give it some time, and if you're still pissed off you should air your grievances with Gard in private.  There is just no acceptable alternative that is value added.

MGolem

February 21st, 2022 at 4:55 PM ^

It looks very much like Krabbenhoff had a wrist lock on Williams. Williams seem to be yelling “let go of me” while attempting to pull away right before Juwan attempts to grab/push Krabbenhoff by the collar, missing and hitting his face. Its possible someone else had a hold of Williams wrist and Juwan believed it was Krabbenhoff but a video I saw made it clear that Williams was being grabbed against his will and Juwan responded. You can have your opinions about what a “leader of men” should have done in that situation but I know I would have gone right at Krabbenhoff too. 

TIMMMAAY

February 21st, 2022 at 5:07 PM ^

I tend to agree with this. But I don't think Howard should be fired, same as I wouldn't say Gard should be fired were it reversed. Suspension, absolutely, I'd say though the end of regular season not just one or two games. It has to have some sting to it. 

However; if the situation were reversed, and the consensus were that Gard should be fired (again, were he the one throwing hands)... then IMO you have to fire Howard. There cannot be a double standard, in life, sports, business, or anything else... or we never get past ingrained racism. 

RawPower

February 21st, 2022 at 2:29 PM ^

Well investigated, thought out, and stated. Could not agree more. Again, UM Haters know who they are and they will continue throwing gas on the fire. Juwan serves his punishment. However, the UW coaching staff are culpable since they escalated the situation. Brad Davison is Cowardly Punk.

Colt Burgess

February 21st, 2022 at 2:34 PM ^

"I also fully understand that Howard’s perspective can be informed by experiences and history that I cannot fathom. Most non-white people I know would experience a visceral reaction from being grabbed in an authoritive manner by a white man, to the point where that’s something I know not to do."

Let's not make this about race. Suffice it to say most men would react viscerally to another man grabbing them in an authoritative way regardless of race. Juwan would have been angry at any coach who grabbed him - white or black. 

wolvemarine

February 21st, 2022 at 2:39 PM ^

That’s what I find astonishing about this. Gard grabbed and physically blocked Coach Howard. Gard’s unacceptable behavior began this whole chain.

Not once — never — in my entire adult life in a professional setting (…outside of the Marines…) have I ever put my hands on another person. Nor would I ever —- ever — tolerate another person putting their hands on me.

UM_Ftown

February 21st, 2022 at 2:44 PM ^

Do you not understand that they were in a handshake line and that happens literally every game? Like they did it every single time they have faced each other previously. 

I mean if someone touching you in a handshake line sets you off then maybe you do have a problem with self control. 

glewe

February 21st, 2022 at 2:48 PM ^

I think any person who is approached by another person the way Howard approached Gard knows to let them keep walking without touching them and standing in their way.  Yeah, touching is normal in a handshake line, but it's not normal to stand in someone's way when they refuse to shake your hand.

snarling wolverine

February 21st, 2022 at 2:58 PM ^

Let's not be homers.

Juwan got in the handshake line, but then didn't shake hands, and looked at Gard in the face and said "I'll remember that shit."  Then Gard grabbed him.  Sure, you can argue that Gard shouldn't have done that, but why is Juwan acting that way to begin with?  Because of a timeout with 15 seconds?  

No one else on our team had a problem shaking hands.  If Juwan just shakes Gard's hand for two seconds, none of this happens.  He can't control how Gard is going to act, but he can control his own actions.  He lost control yesterday.

goblu330

February 21st, 2022 at 3:11 PM ^

The thing about the "Gard grab" to me that I think is somewhat intentionally being misconstrued is that Gard did not grab Juwan like "get over here I got something to say to you," he reached out after it became clear that Juwan was upset specifically at him for the timeout and looked as though he wanted to talk it out as peers.  It was more a "hey man it doesn't have to be like this" grab than an aggressive one.  Sometime when coaches are upset with officials they will put their arm around their shoulders when they are discussing something and it is meant more as a "no hard feelings" type gesture than an authoritative one.  That was more what this grab looked like.  Long story short, Howard's response made Gard's actions appear more disrespectful and authoritative than they were meant to be, at first. 

If the two had 15 more minutes to digest things the conversation would have likely been "hey man I should not have pressed" and then "no you're good the timeout was dumb."  It just so happened that neither had the time to digest and Juwan in particular engaged in a series of bad moves from then out.  The best move would have been to skip the line entirely.  It would have looked like poor sportsmanship but it was better than anything that could have came out of the handshake line.

nucegin60

February 21st, 2022 at 4:15 PM ^

I disagree with the sentiment that Gard's grab was respectful and it was Gard's intent to thoughtfully discuss the issue; I think the Twitter, floor level video shows this a little better. Coach Howard was looking like he was clearly trying to walk well away after making his comment, and Gard literally moved himself from a decent amount away to directly in front and close to Howard to block his path. At this point, in my opinion, you have to take into account Howard most likely felt trapped, in that it would have been tough to disengage from the situation with out engaging with Gard in some way, shape or form, and that this would likely trigger Coach Howard's fight or flight response, and make it tougher for him to think clearly and make the right decision (and I think Gard knew or at least had a general feel that he would be taking it up a notch by blocking Howard's path). It still does not excuse his actions, especially since he was well away from the situation when he threw the slap, but I think Gard blocking him instead of tugging on his sleeve made it way harder for him to be able to respond to the situation with a clear head.

TrueBlue2003

February 21st, 2022 at 3:28 PM ^

Yes, Juwan's reaction to the timeout was petty and it was unsportsmanlike to say "I'll remember that shit" in the handshake line.

AND it was totally unnecessary for Gard to grab and obstruct a clearly angry man.

Both can be true. 

You're right, Juwan could have de-escalated and not said those things in the line.  AND Gard could have de-escalated and thought, ok he doesn't want to engage, I'm going to give him a call after to explain instead of grab the guy.

Eng1980

February 21st, 2022 at 4:39 PM ^

They shook hands.  They let go.  Howard started to continue his walk. Gard grabbed Howard's arm to "ask for a minute".  He still grabbed his arm.  It doesn't excuse Howard but Gard and his assistants are rather aggressive in their posture.  If I acted like that and someone slugged me, my Dad/brothers/friends would have told me I deserved it.

glewe

February 21st, 2022 at 2:46 PM ^

I really do believe that this is under-discussed.  I would never do what Howard did, but I would never do what Gard did either.  I'm not a professional athlete but I think Jim Schwartz was also out of line when he went after Harbaugh, even though Harbaugh was a jerk when that happened.  It's just senseless escalation.  And Gard bears some responsibility for that—although I agree with Seth that Howard bears more.

CompleteLunacy

February 21st, 2022 at 3:31 PM ^

I think it's a bit hyperbolic to say Gard "grabbed" him...have you ever touched someone on the arm to get their attention? Because that's all it looked like to me. Now, we can question whether Gard should have done that, but it's likely all he was trying to do was explain himself for the TO that Howard was mad about.

Howard can be mad if he wants, but he must realize that his lack of control is what set the whole fucking thing off. He doesn't have to like Gard, but if you're going to disrespect a colleague in a handshake line it ought to be for a better reason than "I'm mad he took a timeout even though I still had my starters pressing their walk-ons". Sorry, that's just pathetic. People are calling Howard weak and soft, and honestly I don't blame them. 

 

 

 

TrueBlue2003

February 21st, 2022 at 4:17 PM ^

It was a grab.

And yes, Juwan was being petty and unsportsmanlike but Gard grabbed him and then got in his way to try to explain himself which I believe was well-intentioned but also inappropriate. You see the guy is angry and yes, the anger is irrational but don't touch and obstruct an angry man.  Call him on the phone afterward.

M-Dog

February 21st, 2022 at 6:28 PM ^

Juwan is a full foot taller than Gard and outweighs him by 50 pounds.  Just walk right past him. 

If Gard grabs and hangs on, then let him be dragged into the locker room like a Buckeye linebacker hanging on Haskins into the end zone.

Juwan does not need to engage at all, Gard can't actually hurt him and he can't actually stop him.

Treat him like the irrelevant fly speck he is. 

  

crom80

February 21st, 2022 at 3:03 PM ^

Nothing happens in a vacuum. Everything has context. 

Just as an example, everyone can agree being called a 'boy' in a condesending tone by anyone is disrespectful, but for a white person to call a black person, especially a grown man, that has many implications due to history.

Coach should definately be suspended and I have no idea what really instigated the physicalnrespone. But saying an action is equal to all regardless of race and context is from not having lived the experience.

maizerayz

February 21st, 2022 at 2:57 PM ^

I agree, coach is 50 years old. We cannot blame the Chicago south side or whatever in this incident. And even doing so is racist in its own way, saying coach is damaged and can't control himself or whatever.

And if we do bend over backwards because of this, it's going to make hiring black coaches even more difficult than it is right now. Which is ridiculously low to begin with.

Flying Dutchman

February 21st, 2022 at 3:01 PM ^

This is exactly right.   I'm as european white as you can get, and if any other male grabs me aggressively, I would respond with some aggression (and have had some training in doing so) to, at minimum, neutralize things.  I don't care if they are white, black, orange, purple.   Let's not make this about Juwan being black and Gard and Krabbenhoft being white. 

WorldwideTJRob

February 21st, 2022 at 4:05 PM ^

We have to stop living in this fairy tale world where we think race is not a factor in certain situations. I know we want to live in this utopian space where all is well in society, but it is not. Arians just did this to one of his players, and was applauded by some in the media. Howard does this to an opposing coach and here come the pitchforks. I would love for it to be this simple issue, but it is very layered and complex! He persevered from a very rough upbringing, to think that some of those horrors doesn’t get triggered(not saying it is right or wrong) in tense situations is foolish.

njvictor

February 21st, 2022 at 5:13 PM ^

Because race was involved in this. Wisconsin's coaching staff and team are predominantly white. Most of Michigan's team and coaching staff are black. Juwan was raised in the South side of Chicago. The media coverage and many people's reactions to this have not so subtle racial undertones. The almost complete dismissal of Gard and Wisconsin's role in this likely also is racially charged. Stop being so naive that race didn't play a part in this

trueblueintexas

February 21st, 2022 at 5:06 PM ^

It doesn't have to be about race, but let's take Seth's account and focus on what actually happened. 

There was a heated exchange between head coaches. That has happened plenty of times after a game. 

Then the Wisconsin assistant said something. We have no idea what, but he said something which caused multiple people (already in a hectic situation) to stop and take note of it. That is what set Juwan off and that is who Juwan tried to hit. 

This is not about Greg Gard. This is about the assistant. I have no idea what was said, I know it was something egregious enough to capture multiple people's attention and cause Juwan to respond physically. 

We'll probably never know what was said because Wisconsin will never release it and it is not in Michigan's best interest to disclose it either. 

In this situation, Juwan will need to live with the suspension he gets. It may be justified, it may not. Without knowing what was said by the assistant, none of us will ever know. 

crg

February 21st, 2022 at 4:10 PM ^

I would not view this as an "objective" assessment in the sense that, while it is clearly trying to avoid partisanship between the UM and Wisc factions, it injects (unnecessary) racial arguments into an issue that is *clearly* more about testerone-driven guys bickering after a contentious game (and then the "dog whistle" comment was just.... really?)

Aside from that - it was a very well laid article describing the principle actors and showing how *all* of them are guilty.  I just hope the league doesn't try to scapegoat Juwan while giving the Wisc coaches a slap on the wrist.  I also want everyone (including the Wisc AD & president) to hear what Krabbenhoft said - it clearly offended just about everyone there and could be grounds for serious punishment by his employer (and didn't he also shove Faulds? If so, that's assault.)