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Seth September 14th, 2022 at 3:44 PM

Ever since Mike Macdonald arrived, and continuing into Jesse Minter, I've been throwing around the term "Amoeba Defense" in reference to Michigan's disguised fronts and coverages. I probably should get into what that means, and how they're using it. The concept is actually a suite of ideas that are old and ubiquitous at all levels of football:

  1. Hybrid defenders.
  2. Zone blitzes.
  3. Pre-snap motion.

This is not original. It's the thing Jerry Sandusky was most known for before the other thing. It's what Dick LeBeau made his Hall of Fame career on. It's what Michigan ran as its base defense the last time we imported a Ravens defensive assistant in 2011-'12. Bob Davie is credited with coming up with it when trying to counter the Run 'n Shoot. Even without the talent disparity, the Amoeba's origins made it particularly well-suited to combat an Air Raid run by Hal Mumme's son in Game 1, let alone a Run 'n Shoot coached by a June Jones quarterback (who until last year was coaching under Hal Mumme's son) in Game 2.

It has been my assertion that Michigan dipped its toes in Amoeba world last year, then shelved it for two reasons:

  1. David Ojabo emerged as an elite old-school pass-rusher, which is still the best way to get pressure if you can find it.
  2. Vincent Gray and Brad Hawkins were savvy zone defenders with speed limitations.

It's too early in 2022 to say Minter's going to run this stuff all year, but it's at least being deployed more often that Macdonald used it last year pre-Ojabo breakout. Why now? What do they need to keep using it when the talent curve turns? Let's investigate.

[After THE JUMP: It's actually a DB defense]

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Same Coaches, Same Problem, Same Solutions

"Amoeba" is a nickname stolen from the 2017-'19 Ravens, on which teams both Macdonald were up-and-coming assistants. I went over those defenses when Michigan hired Macdonald, covering three plays from their 2020 game vs the Chiefs that highlighted two common forms the Amoeba takes: a zone blitz, an all-out blitz with pure man behind it. The thing to notice is all the movement up front.

For Baltimore, the transition was mostly about shifting cap resources to the secondary after number crunchers in the front office decided the league was overvaluing pass rush and undervaluing elite corners. Those moves:

  1. In 2017 the Ravens signed free agent CB Brandon Carr for $8M/year (half of what elite corners go for today), and used their 1st round pick on CB Marlon Humphrey. (Baltimore still had Jimmy Smith, a star they drafted in the 1st round of 2011).
  2. In 2018 they said goodbye to longtime DC Dean Pees, promoted LBs coach Wink Martindale, let premium pass-rusher Terrell Suggs walk, used his more linebackerish hybrid backup Tyus Bowser instead
  3. In 2019 they allowed both starting LBs to walk, and started playing safety Anthony Levine as tiny linebacker in place of one of them. They also took an $18.2M cap hit to sign elite free agent Earl Thomas and traded for former 1st round CB Marcus Peters, who carried a $15M cap hit.

What all that talent was for was starting in disadvantageous positions. They wanted Earl Thomas to threated blitz but still cover a slot fade. They wanted the option to bring both safeties and leave their CBs in pure man versus the scariest generation of WRs in NFL history. They wanted things to be maximally hard for all the young quarterbacks trying to get a handle on all the looks NFL defenses throw at them. Andy Benoit in 2018:

Doubt and confusion can manifest themselves when the defense starts changing its looks not just before the snap, but after it. That’s the other beauty of an amoeba front: It’s more conducive to disguising your coverages, especially underneath. From those fronts, a defense can always threaten a heavy blitz, easily rush five or just as easily rush only three, flooding the coverage with eight defenders. Quarterbacks must be prepared either to play fast or, if it’s a three-man rush, to suddenly play slow. In this delicate balance, it’s easy to start playing off-schedule.

Michigan doesn't have a cap but they have to recruit their own talent and technically replaced Hutchinson/Ojabo/Dax with Morris/Harrell/Sainristil. In the secondary they're shifting Vincent Gray's snaps to Turner/Green/Johnson while those of Brad Hawkins were distributed among Moore/Moten/Paige, in both cases trading a lot of experience for a lot more speed. They're also out one Josh Ross, and have been replacing injured LB Nikhai Hill-Green with hybrid Michael Barrett.

Position Demands

There were three types of defenders that the Ravens focused on:

1. Edges who can drop. While the league was spending outrageous amounts on edge rushers who would win one-on-one battles, Baltimore long-limbed, athletic dudes with B-grade rushing skills but the ability to drop into coverage, set a hard edge versus stretch zones, or cave a kickout block. Matt Judon (2019 cap hit: $2.1M) was a 6'3"/275 with freaky athleticism and speed for his bulk. Tyus Bowser ($1.5M) was more of a pure hybrid OLB at 6'3"/242.

2. Safeties who can cover like a CB or blitz like a linebacker. Tony Jefferson ($15.9M) and Eric Weddle ($9.3M) didn't come cheap but the more hybrid LB-ish Anthony Levine ($1.7M) did. In 2019 hey lost Jefferson but took a $18.2M cap hit to acquire Earl Thomas as a free agent, because they thought he could be their Dax Hill. He didn't work out because of personal reasons, but their allocation of cap resources tells you where their priorities were.

3. Elite cornerbacks. The 2019 Ravens were carrying former 1st rounders Jimmy Smith ($15.9M), and Marlon Humphrey ($7.8M), and replaced Brandon Carr ($7M) with another former 1st rounder Marcus Peters ($15.0M). Here too the enormous amount of cap space going to the secondary showed they thought the defense they were going to play required high-demand skills, in this case because they wanted their corners to not get slaughtered in man if safety help was reallocated to the front.

Translating this to Michigan, we're looking for three shifts in their approach:

1. More DL dropping into zones so others can pass rush. Watch Taylor Upshaw, #91 just below the hash, and also the slot receiver on the 50:

The CSU QB's first read isn't open on the field side so he looks back expecting that to mean Michigan took a guy out of their coverage and opened up the slant. But Upshaw dropped into the slant. But they're blitzing all these guys so there's got to be a hole. Where is it? Where's the….AAHHHHHHHHH!!!! /dead.

2 More DBs involved in blitzes, starting around the box and shifting late to zones.

The one above has Sainristil and Moten attacking from the opposite edges. On the one below Michigan has Paige trying to blitz off one edge and CSU trying to punish that by going tempo and throwing away from the pressure. Note on the top however that Sainristil was inside and walking down the hash mark, probably setting up another Amoeba look before CSU snaps it just 9 seconds into the play-clock.

Michigan survives because Sainristil has the athleticism to get back outside and attack the edge of a flash screen. This is a tradeoff for your Amoeba games: players are going to be covering things they're not in position to cover, and they need the athleticism and speed to make up for that.

3. More DBs left in man without help.

Until guys threatening one thing can get to the thing they're actually doing, coverage is going to be left out on their own, and quarterbacks are going to know it. This look was from the Washington game last year. At the bottom of your screen you see Gemon Green matched up on one receiver. On the hash above it there's DJ Turner alone with a slot receiver, and also all the way down in press.

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Behind them: much grass. If help is coming it's either from a safety on the wrong hash or one of the guys lined up in blitz mode. The resolution here is a revelation. We're watching DJ Turner on the bottom hash mark:

Yes, help was on the way, but Dax Hill (the umbrella) was concerned with the TE and the hole defender (who takes the inside of in-breaking routes) is Josh Ross, who began the play like a defensive end on the other side of the field.

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Fortunately Michigan had an elite cornerback they had kept secret from us all these years.

The Moten Games

All of these factors can be at play in a single snap. This sequence is from Hawai'i's second drive. Michigan comes out with safeties at 6 and 7 yards and a split front.

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This could say Cover 2 and the safeties just believe they can get back over the top of any deep routes from there. It could be Cover Zero and everyone except the safeties and cornerbacks are blitzing. It changes to none of those:

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They're also sequenced to give the quarterback much to think about. In chronological order:

  1. Sainristil shifts from a blitz position to linebacker depth over the slot.
  2. Rod Moore shifts from short safety depth over the slot to 1-high umbrella.
  3. Moten walks down to blitz position.
  4. Mullings threatens blitz in the backside B gap.

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What's this? I could be a Don Brown Cover 1 and Moten is playing Viper on the TE while Mullings blitzes. It could be Cover 3 and Moten/Sainristil are the curl/flat defenders. They could bring Moten and drop McGregor. Is there anything this couldn't be? Oh it's time to snap. Where we find…what?

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The BTN director didn't like having the whole play in shot so you have to guess a little, but there's enough information above if you want to stare at the screenshot and play "Where did Michigan leave the coverage hole?" As with the Washington play earlier, the weak spot was a middle linebacker coming from the opposite side of the field, in this case Kalel Mullings taking the curl/flat zone that Moten abandoned with his blitz.

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The coverage resolves into a Cover 3 Pattern Match or something on that tree (doesn't matter for our purposes) with Moore the umbrella, Colson in the hole, and Moten/Mullings (to his opposite side) the curl/flat defenders. Yellen doesn't bother to check through his progressions, because he sees Moten coming and knows that means Green shouldn't have any help. Ball is overthrown. Also Green didn't need the help.

The Amoeba didn't really fool anybody here. What it did however was force the QB to simplify. He wasn't going to wait to find out who was blitzing, didn't sit around to figure out the weak spot Michigan left was Mullings having to cover a curl/flat zone from the wrong side of linebacking. Big payoffs were shelved for a lower percentage but easier to read opportunity where his WR was one-on-one with the CB and at and advantage because QB and WR (in their offense) will hook up below or above the CB depending on which he's not covering. Fortunately Green is better than Yellen and his receiver.

Michigan used a similar look the next play, which for a hot second made us all catch our breath:

The result of all this pre-snap movement is a Don Brown special: 4.5 rushers and a thicc safety chasing a drag route.

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Again, Hawai'i's response to Michigan's complicated looks is to go with a simple one-on-one matchup. It doesn't matter if Moten picks up the drag, or Paige, or Colson: either somebody's not getting over the three clearout routes from the trips side or somebody from the TE side or middle has to out-athlete the TE. Best case scenario for the offense it's Moten having to come clear across the whole formation. Actual case scenario is Moten is fast enough to do that and make the play.

Wrap

Michigan's pre-snap Amoeba games create tough reads for the quarterback, but they do leave gaps for a really good quarterback to attack. But who's got one of those? And a good enough offensive line to stop all kinds of pressure from weird directions so the QB can progress through his reads and find the spot?

Hawai'i' showed us another way to attack this: suboptimal plays with easy first reads. The Rainbow Warriors were interested in getting the ball out of the backfield as soon as possible, not playing Michigan's "guess the coverage" game. This meant throwing into covered guys who should have some sort of built-in advantage, but like the Ravens' secondaries, the Michigan guys have thus far been so much more talented than average that throwing into single-covered guys is a losing proposition.

Yes, it comes down to talent, but also about choosing a system that takes advantage of the talent on hand. Without their established pass-rushers, but reloaded on athleticism in the secondary, Michigan in 2022 is more suited to the kind of defense run by their current coordinator and the by the guy who installed the defense last year. Colorado State was in a uniquely bad position to deal with it—first game, new players, bad OL, new QB, and their system is the one this stuff was built to answer. Faced with similar circumstances, Hawai'i turtled. It will be interesting to see how future opponents approach it.

Comments

unWavering

September 14th, 2022 at 3:58 PM ^

The result of all this pre-snap movement is a Don Brown special

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Michigan's pre-snap Amoeba games create tough reads for the quarterback, but they do leave gaps for a really good quarterback to attack. But who's got one of those?

Glances nervously at Thanksgiving weekend

dragonchild

September 14th, 2022 at 4:33 PM ^

Eh, I dunno.  Day's thing seems to be to recruit a surgically-precise QB with a glass jaw, then make the latter not matter by getting him the best pass protection money can buy.  Stroud doesn't seem any different so far, but it's hard to tell because there's such a small sample size of opponents that can/could actually get to him with regularity.

Anyway, Amoeba isn't just about confusing young QBs.  It's also about confusing the O-line, and Hawai'i made that not matter by getting the ball out at the snap.  OSU no doubt would have more success doing the same thing, but it's a suboptimal way to use all that talent, so if that's what they do that's basically an RPS surrender we'd gladly take.  More likely, there's going to be a chess game played on the field, when Minter is going to show whether or not he was the right hire and, if so, we'll see if Stroud is anything more than a prima donna with the flu.

outsidethebox

September 15th, 2022 at 7:08 AM ^

Excellent. OSU: Stroud has outstanding arm talent and those receivers are not only physically talented but they are, also, very well coached. However, what a defense of this strategy does is make the offense, straight out, guess-and precision is pretty much removed/negated. Last year, less than a year into this defense OSU, with all that talent, was most fortunate to score 28 points-they were truly lucky they got to double digits...if not for 3 or 4 incredibly spectacular catches. 

Making success against this defense a flip of the coin beats the hell out of the alternatives-as Don Brown's defenses soon found out. Trying to stop OSU straight up is only attempted by fools. Making that offense keep flipping that coin is clearly the more successful strategy. 

The partisans down south continue to believe they are in the driver's seat in their matchup with Michigan. But I believe that Jim Harbaugh may have, very cleverly, flipped the narrative here. Michigan, to this point, has been able to adequately match OSU at WR, TE, the OL and RB position groups. The difference, and advantage Harbaugh now has, on offense revolves around the arrival of JJ. And for all of Stroud's arm talent, JJ can at least match him and his mobility takes him right past Stroud's value to this position-and indications are that this is now "advantage Michigan". JJ's ability to make decisions/plays on the move changes everything about this story. Many Michigan fans are concerned about an increase in the errors this change in style of play will bring. But the clear answer to the concerns is that it beats the hell out of the alternatives-because those legs and that arm are, in the end, going to keep moving those chains and driving the defense crazy. 

Day is an excellent offensive coach-good enough to have taken the lessons that Jim taught him last Fall-a running game can be fundamental to offensive success too! However, in my view, our stogey, stubborn, quirky Jim is, today, a step ahead of Day-the "offensive genius". The more things change the more they remain the same. 

Dunder

September 14th, 2022 at 4:17 PM ^

1. This article paired with the UConn offense FFFF adds a little intrigue to my weekend viewing as they face a very different offense for the first time.  

2. The explanation of this defense makes me really root for huge leaps forward from Sabb, Berry and Jones.    

MNWolverine2

September 14th, 2022 at 4:26 PM ^

They Maryland game honestly might be one of the most interesting games on the schedule.  We're going to go from playing 3 of the worst 7 or 8 teams in all of college football to a team with multiple NFL WRs and a capable QB.

I have a feeling that coming out of that game, we're either going to have playoff ambitions or get a real look at life without Aidan/Dax/Ojabo against a good offense and realize these first few games were a bit of a mirage.  Moten tracking that crossing route looks okay against Hawaii, but may by 50 yards against Rakim Jarrett.

outsidethebox

September 15th, 2022 at 7:26 AM ^

Tagovailoa is a year older. The interesting thing about this new defensive strategy that McDonald and Minter have brought is that it, more heavily, makes the offense figure out the defense-as opposed to the other way around. This is going to slow  Tua"s decision-making process down and force him to pick his poison as he has never done before-and this has never been his strength anyway. They will surely have some success-but the point of this defense is to make success a random thing...a thing that works more in your favor than against you.

energyblue1

September 15th, 2022 at 10:53 AM ^

Well said.  Maryland's also will have only faced one credible opponent in smu as some litmus of their team.  While thus far we will have had 3 swiss rolls to devour on our schedule.  

Tua imo last year just didn't hold up well with much pressure.  Hence, came out like gangbusters in the non conference per usual but then hit the conference season and are fortunate to make a bowl game.  

Maryland's defense though is horrible and not likely improved much this season.  It's oline wasn't great last year but serviceable.  We will see if they are improved or just a mid big10 program with lots of athletes and no lines to really compete at the top.  

jmscher

September 14th, 2022 at 4:41 PM ^

I don't watch enough NFL to know the answer, but if this ameoba D is the answer to run n' shoot, what kind of offense would be the answer to it? A QB who can process lots of info very quickly is the answer to any D, no? Is it a run heavy O similar to our's last year? Is that why MVP Lamar lost to Derrick Henry and Tanahill a few years back?

dragonchild

September 14th, 2022 at 5:03 PM ^

I mean, it's an NFL defense.  It wouldn't have been adopted if it was that easy to crack.  Elite QBs (your Bradys and Breeses and whathaveyou) can pick it apart, but if Stroud's a generational QB, there's not much to do besides tip our hats because at that point there's nothing you can do on defense.  Not saying that's the case; just saying talent beats scheme.

The main thing about amoeba to me, from reading this, is that you really need the athletes to run it, particularly in the secondary.  You need a lot of speed to make up that ground lost to deception.  And since it involves putting players out of position, if your opponent has athletes that can out-athlete them, watch out (*shudders at the thought of Smith-Njigba matched up against a DE*).

Anyway.  So, run-and-shoot is a particularly bad matchup against amoeba, but I don't know if that says much about anything else.  For starters, there's a reason run-and-shoot fell out of favor.  Conceptually it's simple, but in practice, it requires a QB and receivers that each not only have advanced understanding of football coverages at an individual level, but rapport such that they're all on the same page post-snap -- no verbal communication, they see the same thing and attack it the same way.  Without literally all of that, the QB's throwing at empty turf or, worse, a DB.  I think it's rather ambitious to implement it at the college level when not even the NFL could implement it with consistency.

steve sharik

September 14th, 2022 at 8:50 PM ^

Seth talked about this in his initial amoeba article. While most defenses are designed to stop the run and then have coverage behind it, the amoeba is designed to stop the pass and then secondarily fit the run. And with the amoeba personnel, I would imagine a Stanford-type Harbaugh offense would give it issues. This is why the Ravens do all that coverage stuff but put 3 heavies up front.

michengin87

September 15th, 2022 at 6:59 AM ^

Agreed.  Having said that, Day just learned last fall that a great passing attack doesn't always win games and has gone back to running the football up the gut.  He's got 3 pretty good to excellent ball carriers and one of the better lines to run behind.  I'm betting we see a lot more run on Thanksgiving this year.  We'll probably have a tougher time stopping a more balanced attack, but hopefully not as much as under the DB days.

dragonchild

September 15th, 2022 at 8:52 AM ^

Not sure if that's a preference.  He might be doing that right now only because Smith-Njigba is injured.  The up-and-coming receivers aren't yet at Wilson/Olave level, assuming they can get there.

Desperation heaves to well-covered receivers was the only thing that worked on us last time.  That was basically their offense for the entire second half.

BTB grad

September 14th, 2022 at 4:43 PM ^

I think the big and most important question is: how will this defense work against Ohio State? Hearing that we’re moving back to some don brown concepts like leaving DBs in man coverage without help makes me very very nervous…

azee2890

September 14th, 2022 at 5:20 PM ^

I hope that we see similar adjustments like we did last year and have two deep covers at all times to take away the deep ball. Maybe with the deception it's not just keeping two safeties deep but some other position leaking out to keep Stroud thinking. Hopefully by then we have some legit pass rushing threats that can adjust to win those one on one matchups that helped us last year. 

Keys to the game. Generate a pass rush, keep everything in front of you. They'll move the ball for sure. But as long as we keep some safety blankets, those drag routes against LBs or streaks along the boundary are less likely to turn into home runs. The key is to not let them hit big plays. Tighten up the field and force them to kick field goals. This is largely what ND did to much success until they blitzed their safety and Stroud hit a walk on in the end zone. That's when ND lost the game, when they were forced to throw to get back in it. 

The Homie J

September 14th, 2022 at 6:29 PM ^

This was my thought.  At a certain point, a QB is simply too smart to confuse (at least if they have the time to read the defense).  So against Ohio State or Mahomes and the Chiefs, the key is to disguise coverage, but never let anything past you and to rush the passer to speed up their clock.

At the end of the day, you're trying to do what we did last year: no quick scores and force Stroud/Ryan Day to dink-and-dunk down the field until they get to the redzone where the field compresses and it's easier to sit in coverage and hope you hold them to a field goal or maybe even a turnover.  And if you allow a touchdown, at least it took 5-10 minutes which reduces the number of opportunities for scoring drives, keeping the score where you can keep up.

The thing about Ryan Day and Stroud is that they wanna score ASAP, because a 12-play drive is 12 opportunities for a turnover, and magnifies the chances of a bad pass, a drop, or anything that might cause a 4th down.  And if every drive takes 10 plays and 8 minutes of game clock, that's fewer chances to put the game away early (like they versus Sparty).

dragonchild

September 15th, 2022 at 9:23 AM ^

I agree that Day likes to hit hard & fast, but I disagree that we're aiming to repeat last year.  We had Hawkins and Gray last time, so we had no choice.  We tried to make them dink-and-dunk, and our secondary fought valiantly, but it largely didn't work.  The Game was ultimately decided by big events -- the first three-and-out, Ross' TFL, Ojabo's sack & pressure.  We did force a couple field goals, but again, this was thanks to big defensive plays.  Whenever we didn't end an OSU drive with a decisive thunk, they got a TD.

If I read Seth's essay correctly, amoeba is a gamble that realizes exactly that reality.  Not what we tried to do, but the end result.  It doesn't induce dink-and-dunk; it annihilates it.  Instead of inviting the opponent to grind it out, it assumes modern offenses are explosive; drives are now more like basketball possessions than battles for field position.  So it instead takes risks to confuse, making the offense gamble more.  We're going to eat some 50-yard TDs, but as we saw last time, if we just sit back against OSU we're going to eat 50-yard TDs anyway.  But if we can force a few three-and-outs or even a turnover or two, i.e., win possessions, that'll make more of a difference.

azee2890

September 15th, 2022 at 9:56 AM ^

But the concept of gambling is predicated on having superior athletes to make up ground and fill holes. Our secondary might be faster than last year but they still aren't faster than OSU's playmakers. Look at how all the teams that have played OSUs offense well the past two years. Alabama basically put the blueprint down on how to beat Day's vertical offense. OSU moved the ball against Bama but once they got within the 40 yard line, they stagnated because they were able to shift from essentially a prevent defense to a normal base defense. Oregon did something similar and I recall us doing it as well. I don't think you want to get into a gambling game with OSU, that's what happened when Don Brown was coaching. If we do give up a 50 yard TD, i'd rather it take 8 plays and 5 min than on one play. Day wants to demoralize teams quickly. We have to make them work for their points.  

dragonchild

September 15th, 2022 at 10:49 AM ^

Despite his reputation Brown wasn't a gambler; he was just aggressive.  There's a difference.  He played a vanilla pass coverage and attacked the backfield.  Amoeba has a superficial resemblance, but Brown was more like "man blitzing" (I know that's not a thing but I'm trying to say his defense was about winning matchups), which meant he left open the same vulnerability, every time.  He didn't intend to gamble on the pressure getting home so much as needing it to.  His defense was like a vicious dog that lunged for your throat before you could get your hands up.  It either won or lost, spectacularly, and frankly worked very well until Day found the right counter.

Amoeba uses zone blitzing, so it moves around the soft spot and dares the QB to find it.  You need speed to run it, speed we have now, but it doesn't strictly rely on out-athlete-ing the opponent.  It's a zone scheme.  My main concern is that a big enough mismatch -- like a receiver who's always open -- will make it not matter, but it's not like you solve that problem with press man, either.  We don't need them to consistently win one-on-one; the speed requirement is to get back into position before the QB figures out what you're doing.

I for one don't like the idea of trying to dink-and-dunk OSU.  Whatever Alabama could do, we're not Alabama.  We tried, and for the most part, it didn't work.  For that matter, if you're playing scared just because Day likes to strike fast, you're already in a losing battle.  OSU basically never punts against B1G opponents -- that says all you need to know about making them work for yards.  I get wanting to see them work for it, but I think this is more reliable than hoping for another generational talent to blow up to bail us out, although watching amoeba lose a few gambles is going to take some discipline.

Couzen Rick's

September 14th, 2022 at 11:36 PM ^

+1, Don Brown's defense's answer to OSU mashing Crossing routes to Olave in 2018 and 2019 was to keep alternating a linebacker and poor damn Brandon Watson on him in coverage with results to the tune of 62 and 56 points.

It got so bad that literally everyone and their brother were wrecking us with crossing routes in 2020.

gbdub

September 15th, 2022 at 10:06 AM ^

The Don Brown problem was not “leaving DBs in man coverage without help” it was “only ever running man coverage schemes long after that had been figured out and exploited by the one team in the league that could badly out-athlete the UM secondary with their 3rd and 4th receivers”.

Every defense has holes. The point of this defense is to disguise those holes, and shuffle them around, enough so that the QB can’t find them before they run out of time.

 

1145SoFo

September 14th, 2022 at 4:56 PM ^

Fun read, Seth.

My two main questions reading this:

(1) So it sounds like Amoeba Defense is more of an ideology using hybrid defenders & a veil disguising the true coverage with pre-snap motion. When you say it's:

It's too early in 2022 to say Minter's going to run this stuff all year,

Do you mean they would simply drop the pre-snap motion? Or change personnel?

 

(2) Less of a question and more of wondering if these disguises get less effective as the season goes on and more gets put on tape? How many different pre-snap motions can individual defenders learn, and I wonder how Minter will change throughout the course of the season.

Vasav

September 14th, 2022 at 5:01 PM ^

I think it's more that from the pre-snap alignment, you don't have the normal "tells" that it's man or what kind of zone or who's playing what zone. The tradeoff is that players are in non-ideal spots at the snap. Unless there are tendencies identified (which is a real problem - does X alignment mean Y blitz and Z coverage, or does this player do X every time he's assigned Y), it can still stay deceptive - but can the players get to the right spot before the QB has figured out how they've aligned "wrong," and relatedly can the QB figure that out while he's still upright?

Vasav

September 14th, 2022 at 4:56 PM ^

there are two decent quarterbacks who may not have the time to exploit this - TaTa and Clifford. There are three decent QBs behind decent lines. One of those is Nebraska, who...has a lot of issues. The other two are our primary rivals. But we can't win the same way we did last year. While I'm not (that) worried about losing to Maryland, I do think it'll be a gut-check for this defense. Similarly for Nebraska.

carlos spicywiener

September 14th, 2022 at 5:05 PM ^

How would the Amoeba gear up to stop a run first offense (MSU)? For all of Don Brown's flaws I tend to think his style of defense would've shut Kenneth Walker down. Macdonald's 5-1 front gamble bit us pretty hard.

The Homie J

September 14th, 2022 at 6:41 PM ^

Eh I thought Macdonald's defense actually did what it supposed to vs KWIII.....except for the tackling part.  I don't know how a DC is supposed to account for a RB turning into Barry Sanders.  KWIII constantly had dudes in his face behind the line of scrimmage, as Macdonald likely wanted.

He just countered with an uber wiggle and then hit the jets in a way that nobody could recover from

Wolverine In Exile

September 15th, 2022 at 9:33 AM ^

The question about "what offense can beat an amoeba defense" is answered by your question, with one nuance. The type of offenses that Baltimore has had trouble with are those with superior OL's who can absorb the blitzing for long enough to let their uber decision making QB's pick the right mismatch, but also punish the smaller hybrid run defenders by running on early downs as your interior OL stalemates their war daddies allowing your pullers, FB's, and heavy blocking TE's to get ahead of schedule and leave you with 3rd and 2-4 yards so that your check downs result in chain moving. See Brady's NE offenses, Pittsburgh when Rothlesberger was having a good day. The amoeba defense works if your DL defeats their OL in run blocking at the trench level--Mazi has to beat / press the double teams freeing up Morris / Graham / etc to win their battles and set edges allowing LBs to flow. If the DL can't win those battles and let the OL move to second level, it's road paving city against the run first teams. 

dragonchild

September 15th, 2022 at 11:06 AM ^

I don't know if "you're boned if your DL gets beat" is a weakness of any scheme in particular, so much as literally all of them.

You can ask your DL to do too much, but amoeba isn't the only system that asks their NT to hold up to doubles.  If anything, ameoba more stresses the linebackers.  They're expected to plug gaps, blitz, cover.  Until they know what they're doing, they're vulnerable to play-action and other misdirection.

gbdub

September 15th, 2022 at 10:16 AM ^

I think the advantages this year are:

1) No KWIII

2) Minter understands that tempo is a thing

3) Michigan’s DL are individually not as good as Hutchjabo, but I think they are deeper (or at least, the depth and the starters play more similarly, so you don’t get schematically hosed if someone is stuck on the field)

4) Michigan’s offense is less likely to bog down - should be less steady but more creative and explosive with JJ at the helm. 

philthy66

September 14th, 2022 at 5:33 PM ^

Huge props to MacDonald and Minter. To be able to change your unit to maximize their potential is not something most coaches can ever achieve.
 

RichRod…for example. Gutted the entire playbook and wasn’t able to adapt it to the personnel. If he had, he would’ve realized that gradual change was better than immediate. We could’ve hung on to Mallett and not had to endure the worst stretch of football in history. Zero adaptability. Even Don Brown. Adaptablelessness
 

I am very impressed by the willingness to adapt to the personnel by Minter and last year with MacDonald. Great coaches. So encouraging. 

philthy66

September 14th, 2022 at 10:09 PM ^

Yeah, I don’t understand why coaches are so rigid. Adapt to your personnel, not the other way around. In Lloyd Carr’s last game against Florida, he played RichRod’s offense better than RichRod ever did…by adapting to the personnel. 
 

This defense is a great case study of coaching adaptation. Get to know the strengths and weaknesses of the team, and form your defense based on that knowledge. Too many rigid coaches who make players fit their style.