[Patrick Barron]

Namaste Comment Count

Brian October 10th, 2022 at 2:35 PM

10/8/2022 – Michigan 31, Indiana 10 – 6-0, 3-0 Big Ten

It was 10-10 and it was stupid. Like half the games against Indiana, it was stupid and dumb. At some point I saw a highlight from that Denard game against Indiana where IU would score on a 15-play march and then Denard would immediately run for a 70 yard touchdown. "God, that game was stupid," I thought. Flinging the ball in the general direction of Junior Hemingway and hoping something good would happen, sort of thing. Charting 120 defensive plays, sort of thing. Craig Roh playing linebacker, sort of thing.

Don't get me started about #chaosteam, or overtimes, or anything else. My IQ is already dropping precipitously. Any more exposure to Michigan-Indiana may render me unable to finish this column. (I would still be able to claim that MSU was defeated with dignity, if that was my purpose in life.)

I had hoped that a little JJ McCarthy-led mediation in the locker room would straighten things out. Michigan did suffer through a scary event when Mike Hart collapsed on the sideline. This is a completely valid reason you may not be executing football with military precision, even setting aside whatever dorfy bioweapon the Hoosiers perfected about ten years ago.

Those hopes seemed dashed when Michigan was inexplicably offsides on a short-yardage punt on which they didn't even bother to rush. A touchback turned into a punt downed at the two, and then Blake Corum committed a false start and Cornelius Johnson dropped something that was either a chunk play or a 96-yard touchdown. Johnson started hopping up and down near the sideline, veritably slobbering with self-rage. The slope downwards to black pits became very slippery.

JJ McCarthy said "namaste."

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[Barron]

That is immediately after the Johnson drop. He's signaling to his receiver: it's fine, it's fine, we'll get them on the next snap. And then they did. Conversion to Ronnie Bell, drive on. McCarthy took off for a first down on third and seven and hit Andrel Anthony and when he got some pressure he rolled away from it and dropped the ball back to Johnson on a drag route that had picked off the Indiana defender. Twenty nine yards later, Michigan led 17-10 and the stupidity started receding.

It was like being alone in a room, certain that the shadows were growing suckers and winding themselves into tentacles, when someone flicked the light on.

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It is of course one thing to do this against Tom Allen's band of overmatched maniacs who pour forward at the snap when there's any indication of a run, and another to do it against top-end defenses, particularly top-end defenses that are not paired with the most disastrous act of nepotism in recorded history.

Michigan gets one this week in Penn State, which now stands out as the last hurdle before… uh… Illinois and Ohio State at the end of the season. It will probably be fine. You can say "just Indiana," but the tail end of this piece blockquotes this week's Best and Worst, which contains a comprehensive overview of just how maddening this series has been. McCarthy more or less turned that off—yes, interception—halfway through a game that was threatening to spiral out of control further, into something competitive.

In these moments breath gets short and vision restricts into a tunnel. In the game threads reason is overthrown and madness prevails. It takes something to grab those others back from the abyss. Maybe you look at the smiley face you've drawn on your hand, and think about eating one raisin with every ounce of your attention. And then you can see again and you hear something other than a single ominous tone.

JJ McCarthy seems like the guy who does that.

AWARDS

Known Friends and Trusted Agents Of The Week

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"I should have transferred to Stanford" [Barron]

you're the man now, dog-2535ac8789d1b499[1]

#1(T) Mike Morris, Eyabi Okie, Derrick Moore, Jaylen Harrell and Kris Jenkins. The story of the defense was Conor Bazelak getting crushed every time he tried to throw downfield. Seven sacks in this one; this spot was almost everyone who racked one up but the linebackers had some issues and McGregor only got ten snaps so some cuts were made and Kris Jenkins was added because he registered a couple QB hurries.

Uh, two points each.

#2 Ronnie Bell. 11 catches, a couple of them spectacular. He stabbed a toe down on Michigan's first drive; he wrestled away an interception on a badly thrown ball; he was the target on the key third down conversion that led to the 98-yard touchdown drive. Also blocked like a mountain goat for much of the game, paving the way for the Schoonmaker touchdown.

#3 JJ McCarthy. Narrowly pips Corum because Michigan needed him to drive the field in the second half and he did, with only the occasional mistake. 8.4 YPA, 28/36. Got some help from his receivers but also saw Cornelius Johnson drop what could have been a very, very long play. Ran fairly effectively.

Honorable mention: Well, yeah, Blake Corum. Luke Schoonmaker is heavily utilized in the passing game. Rod Moore came up with an important interception that he kept off the ground. Mike Sainristil had two PBUs and one solo tackle, which is good cornerbackin'. Mason Graham obliterated an OL for a stuff and snuffed out a screen.

KFaTAotW Standings.

(points: #1: 8, #2: 5, #3: 3, HMs one each. Ties result in somewhat arbitrary assignments.)

24: Blake Corum (#2 CSU, #2 Hawaii, HM UConn, #1 Maryland, #2 Iowa. HM Indiana)
18: JJ McCarthy (#1 Hawaii, #2 UConn, HM Maryland, HM Iowa, #3 Indiana)
15: Ronnie Bell (HM CSU, HM Hawaii, #1 UConn, #2 Indiana)
13: Mike Morris (T3 Hawaii, HM Maryland, #1 Iowa, T1 Indiana)
12: Mazi Smith (#1 CSU, T3 Hawaii, HM Maryland, HM Iowa)
8: Kris Jenkins (#3 UConn, T3 Hawaii, HM Iowa, T1 Indiana)
6: Gemon Green (HM UConn, T2 Maryland),
5: DJ Turner (T2 Maryland)
4: Junior Colson (#3 CSU, HM UConn), Eyabi Okie (HM CSU, HM Iowa, T1 Indiana), Luke Schoonmaker (T3 Maryland, HM Iowa, HM Indiana)
3: The Offensive Line (#3 Iowa), Derrick Moore (HM CSU, T1 Indiana), Jaylen Harrell (HM CSU, T1 Indiana), Mason Graham (HM Hawaii, HM Iowa, HM Indiana)
2: Roman Wilson (HM CSU, HM Hawaii), Max Bredeson (T3 Maryland), Joel Honigford (T3 Maryland), Mike Sainristil (HM Maryland, HM Indiana), Rod Moore (HM CSU, HM Indiana)
1: Braiden McGregor (HM CSU), Makari Paige (HM Hawaii), Rayshaun Benny (HM Hawaii), Cornelius Johnson (HM Hawaii), Donovan Edwards (HM Hawaii), AJ Henning (HM UConn),  Caden Kolesar (HM UConn), RJ Moten (HM Maryland).

Who's Got It Better Than Us(?) Of The Week

Blake Corum is briefly inhabited by the spirit of Barry Sanders.

Honorable mention: Gus Johnson invokes Bill Raftery after another ankle-killer from Corum. Any of seven different sacks. Rod Moore pulls an INT off the carpet. Cornelius Johnson, Luke Schoonmaker, and Ronnie Bell turn in circus catches.

imageMARCUS HALL EPIC DOUBLE BIRD OF THE WEEK.

Connor Bazelak throws a back-foot artillery round that parabolas its way into his receivers hands to set up the only Indiana touchdown. I will never not be mad that was a completion.

Honorable mention: Dubious PF on Harrell for celebrating a sack, dubious PI on Turner to continue the Indiana TD drive, Michigan gets a field goal blocked, back-to-back false starts. McCarthy throws a pick after a great play from the Indiana LB. Many tipped run plays.

[After THE JUMP: STOP TIPPING PLAYS BY FORMATION]

OFFENSE

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[Barron]

I am losing my mind about pistol. Michigan has played three Big Ten games and has run 100% of the time out of the pistol formation. Tom Allen has always been a guy who dials up corner blitzes on tons of run downs, and here it looked like pistol was an auto-check to those. The first pistol run saw both corners come. Allen usually doesn't have the horses, so it makes sense for him to have a maniacally aggressive defense. Also because Allen doesn't have the horses he can usually rely on high-end opposition to save their tendency-breakers for other weeks.

This creates a situation that's the opposite of what happened last week against Iowa. Michigan could trundle out their very predictable playcalling and Iowa just would not respond, because Iowa. Indiana is going to punish you for that, which is why we were one bit of Corum magic away from a flatly terrible day on the ground. If Corum's 50 yard run gets the 2 it was blocked for we're looking at a 3.0 YPC game.

And things might even be worse than that!

The best time to break this tendency was before you established it. The second best time is now. This is likely to be an RPS disaster in the charting.

When controlled. Things went better for the Michigan ground game when they built in controls for the Indiana secondary. This is an RPO with a bubble attached and the bubble holds three defenders outside. Corner blitz fiesta neutered, Corum goes and gets a decent chunk:

Similarly, when Michigan ran basic waggle action Indiana was gone. McCarthy had three wide open guys on this chunk to Bell:

Literally all of these guys have uncontested catch and run opportunities:

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I thought Michigan would test the jumbo sets and see how they went; they went badly so they went to more of an RPO style, and that worked and then they didn't go back to it. This was a frustrating game tactically after three very good weeks.

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[Fuller]

Obligatory McCarthy take. Another day where you can remember virtually every incompletion and then you think "maybe he was not as metronomically efficient as in previous games" and then you look at the numbers:

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Ye gods. Now, his receivers helped him out in ways that they did not in previous outings. So far our receiver charting has been absurdly light on anything other than routine catches. Not the case here. Michigan came up with some snags. But then you add that Johnson drop in and, well… yeah. If he can just get back to the deep ball accuracy he had last year…

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[Fuller]

On the interception. This makes perfect sense presnap as you've got your #1 WR lined up as #3 to the field and you're looking at split safeties. Unless that Indiana linebacker—backup Indiana linebacker—is able to carry Ronnie Bell it's six. Oops!

On the replay you can see that this is right on Bell's facemask. To me this is a good presnap assumption that turns bad and McCarthy can't get off of it. As INTs go it's not an egregious BR*; he's not throwing it into someone's chest, he's suffering a PBU that happens to go the worst way possible.

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courtesy one tight end [Fuller]

Schoonmaker has gravity. Luke Schoonmaker has been targeted so much and so effectively that big chunks of the game-turning 98-yard march were due to Indiana defenders getting in his grill as other guys ran open. Those intermediate shots to Andrel Anthony both featured Schoonmaker's route drawing the key zone defender:

This is the complete opposite of what was happening on the ground. Michigan has a tendency to hit Schoonmaker underneath? Ok, now when you react to that we go behind your zone.

Dangit, Klatt. Yes, I will be checking in on Joel Klatt's assertion that Michigan has a second giant run/pass tip: motion. Klatt asserted that if Michigan went in motion it was almost always a run, and vice-versa if it was a pass.

Ban baseball slides, and don't wait for them to ban baseball slides. McCarthy ran it a bit here and did not immediately head out of bounds. Most of the time he just went to get what was there but on one first down keeper he slid down in front of a linebacker. That linebacker barely missed obliterating McCarthy in the head. Also that act gave up 3-4 yards that would have come in handy on third down when Luke Schoonmaker was 3-4 yards short of a first down.

All of the worst hits we see QBs take downfield are on baseball slides.

It is inevitable that this is going to keep happening because the baseball slide turns the natural tackling motion of a defender into a killshot. Harbaugh brought this up a few years ago when his QBs kept getting hit after sliding down, but never actually followed through with coaching a dive forward.

DEFENSE

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mmm back foot [Fuller]

The most annoying ten points you'll ever give up. Give Walt Bell credit: his offenses may not go anywhere, but by God do they convince you you're going to die. Michigan gave up 222 yards in this game and I spent a big chunk of it bemoaning what Michigan was doing out there. Get lined up! Why are you playing in the parking lot! Tackle! Get lined up! GET LINED UP! Aaaaaaaaargh.

/Indiana scores 10 points.

In fairness to Bell, I don't know what you're supposed to do when your offensive line is largely notional. Even the touchdown Michigan gave up required a dubious PI call and one of the more stupefying completions I've seen recently:

At that point just start heaving them up blindfolded. (This is more or less what Bazelak did.)

Colorado State caveats apply, but... This line was so bad that I'm not sure how much of this translates to Penn State, let alone Ohio State. On the other hand, I watched what I could of Eyabi Okie's FCS games and I sure as hell didn't see this:

Meanwhile Mike Morris is currently exceeding our "is Chris Wormley" take by turning in consistent pass rush wins, some of them on the outside, on a weekly basis. If Michigan can get to Sean Clifford semi-consistently next week it'll be time to re-evaluate.

Early issues. Aside from the Bazelak heave, Michigan's first-half yards ceded mostly came in two categories. One was waggle plays on which Michigan players frustratingly bit on. Indiana's ground game is close to nonexistent and they barely run stretch so watching linebackers and safeties suck up on rollouts was rough. Also rough: what are we doing screen passes. This one has two Michigan defenders over three Indiana players, and those defenders are in the parking lot:

This isn't even something you can put on tempo. The snap is at 21 seconds. It's just a free first down by alignment. Similarly, this is three guys against four Indiana players, and they're playing super-soft, with Turner bailing into a cover three deep third:

This got fixed in the second half and then the pass rush just obliterated Bazelak. By the end of the game he was just heaving the ball out of bounds without even bothering to try to stand in.

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[Barron]

Line reshuffle. Indiana provides a boatload of snaps for your defense, which necessitates rotation. Snap counts are thus a pretty good proxy for a depth chart. The state of things, without bothering with fine position distinctions that don't really seem to be materializing:

DE DT DT DE
Mike Morris (42) Mazi Smith (53) Kris Jenkins (52) Jaylen Harrell (36)
Eyabi Okie (32) Mason Graham (21) Rayshaun Benny(18) Derrick Moore (27)
Taylor Upshaw (10) Kenneth Grant (8) Cam Goode (4) Braiden McGregor (10)

Moore is just coming off a 5 snap outing against Iowa so this may be a bit wobbly, but you can definitely see Moore and Okie consolidating Taylor Upshaw's snaps and even eating into the time the starters get. This is close to an OR situation, and that's with Morris playing at a very high level in both phases.

Graham and Benny are clearly the second-string DTs after Goode got some early run. George Rooks has fallen off the radar—is he hurt?

Errors and nothing. Quite the dichotomy for the Indiana running backs. Each one got a decent run off: Jaylin Lucas had a 39-yarder, Shaun Shivers a 15-yarder, and Josh Henderson and 11-yarder. The other 15 Indiana carries went for exactly 1 YPC each.

Those errors, though. Going to be some –2s handed out by Seth to the LB corps in this one. Barrett got beat on a simple route to the flat for a touchdown because his first move was directly upfield; Colson was one of the guys biting on those waggles. I would like to rescind one slander I issued on the podcast on this Indiana chunk run:

I said Barrett messed this up but actually he's boned either way because he's the only Michigan player in two different gaps because Mazi got scooped and sealed out. The RB does a good job to threaten the inside gap and when Barrett understandably tries to get over to it he's done.

SPECIAL TEAMS

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[Barron]

Man who should know on blocked field goal. Zoltan Mesko:

You can see on the right side of the Indiana line they've got three guys who are attacking two Michigan OL:

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Point for Indiana's special teams coach.

As always, I am most concerned about what will happen to our FEIST rankings. Does Michigan get credit for blocking the Indiana chip shot, or does that get lumped in with opponent Field Goal efficiency, which does not apply to the overall ranking? (FWIW, Michigan was like 129th in thanks to Maryland's kicker.)

Almost. AJ Henning had two good cracks at a return here, breaking one out to midfield:

This was apparent in the Indiana punting stats—their guy does not get consistent hangtime. Let us all silently appreciate Brad Robbins.

MISCELLANEOUS

Devastating. I credit these guys with keeping the score close for most of the game:

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[Barron]

Hard to recover from that. Elsewhere in Indiana fans:

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[Barron]

This is every college football message board.

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cumong man [Fuller]

Celebration penalties are extremely suspicious. I am not hearing any old man complaints about how you shouldn't give the officials the opportunity to throw a flag on you. You cannot accurately predict what celebratory motion is going to be 15 yards and what's going to be fine. This week I retweeted Chase Winovich's "I AM GOING TO EAT MY OWN HEART" celebration, which was deemed legal. What's the difference between that and what Harrell did? Nothing. Did I hear any clucking from the "don't give them a chance" crowd after Winovich's celebration? No. What's the difference between Harrell's act and Cornelius Johnson throwing up an X with his forearms?

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[Barron]

Johnson could be making an X, because that's what they put on dead cartoons. This is a threat. Flag! Flaggity flag flag! Etc, etc. Jaylen Harrell didn't invite a flag more than anyone else did in this game. He just happened to get one. 

Save the throat slash stuff. There is no way this official actually thought Harrell was doing a throat slash, he's three feet away and looking him right in the face:

There aren't any celebration penalties in hockey and baseball. Why does football need them? Why does basketball need them? The penalties are a legacy of a "gang sign" moral panic from the 1980s. They are, in the parlance of our times, sus. It's time to let it go.

Outside of taunting someone in their face—which is likely to lead to shoving and the like and the occasional bench clearing brawl, especially if you are in Florida—you should be able to do whatever you want. It's a game. It should be fun.

Have to use your review. This looks like a first down to me:

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Since it's on the sideline and the yard markers are right there this is a spot review that can actually go your way—also the guy who spotted this ball is behind Bell and probably doesn't see the arm extension. If you're wrong you lose a timeout. If you're right you get a bonus possession.

Tom Allen grouses accurately. After the Johnson touchdown the cameras cut to an exasperated Tom Allen barking at a line judge and uhhhhhh

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May have a point there. Academic at that point—three minutes left with Indiana down 14 and completely unable to pass protect—but good lord these officials are in for a paddlin' from the league office.

HERE

Here's a take on the Michigan offense through the lens of the… Boer War?

The second week of December 1899, the British Army suffered three humiliating defeats at the battles of Stormberg, Magersfontein and Colenso. Thousands of British soldiers perished under the withering long range accuracy of the Boer Mausers. (Second time that rifle has appeared here!) The pack masses of British soldiers died in the ranks they had marched in. It was so bad, that at Colenso, British Infantry were said to have stood in ranks, dying, waiting for someone to tell them which rock to take cover behind. The defeats humiliated the British Army, and the Empire itself. But this story isn’t about the losses, it is about the lessons.

This:

Against This: Only ends one way.

I award this person 7500 Michigan War Dad points.

Best and Worst sums up the recent history of the Indiana series:

Now, if you just skim the final scores of these games you'd wonder why I'm so annoyed with the Hoosiers - Michigan is 61-10 against them all-time and have won 26-1 in the past 27 games. But basically since Carr left and IU became an agent of abject chaos they've typically been the root canal of football games to consume. The 2009 game ended on a simultaneous catch/pick and turned out to be the last win against an FBS team UM had that year as the defense absolutely cratered. 2010 required a huge performance by Denard to escape. They didn't play again until 2013, a game that ended 63-47 because nobody played a lick of defense (1300 combined yards) and nobody could stop Jeremy Gallon (a team-record 369 yards on 14 catches) or Devin Gardner (503 [!!!] yards and 2 TDs on 29 passes as well as 81 yards and 3 TDs on the ground). 2014 was uneventful because IU was starting a backup QB and neither team was particularly good (UM finished 5-7 and Hoke was out that off-seasons), but 2015 was absolutely bananas 48-41 double OT game where The Rudockening began. 2016 was the post Iowa game where there was some snow, John O'Korn (subbing in for an injured Wilton Speight) did the complete opposite of Rudock and threw for only 59 yards, and DeVeon Smith carried UM to a win. 2017 featured John O'Korn throwing for even fewer yards (58) and Michigan again winning in OT behind 200 yards from Higdon and in spite of 16 penalties for 141 yards, the most penalties UM has had in at least the past 20 years. 2018 felt not unlike this game in which Michigan was clearly the better team but kept scuttling offensively and settling for FGs and IU was able to string together a couple of drives in the first half to take the lead before UM asserted itself more in the second half and won comfortably. And 2019 was the last win of the year for the Wolverines, a comfortable plastering featuring 5 TD throws from Shea Patterson that, even in the moment, felt a bit like fool's gold. 2020 it was clear IU was the better team (and Joe Milton was decidedly not quite ready to be QB1) while 2021 was a reversal under center but was also the week after the MSU loss when feelings around the future of the team were still pretty raw and splintered.

So yeah, that's over a decade of angst and annoyance against the Hoosiers, a team that, again, Michigan has dominated but still gives them and outsized fight across a multitude of iterations.

State of Our Open Threads:

We will start with the most impressive statistic first - the 251 fucks given in the thread yesterday, which is adjusted some for attempts to inflate the total (although I sympathize with those people - I had a similar thought in the moment), is nearly double the 136 fucks given for the Iowa game. Although I don't do a quarter-by-quarter breakdown normally, I will tell you that much of those came in the second quarter, when it definitely seemed like it was going to be one of THOSE Indiana games, which should never really happen but somehow does because they do everything we aren't built for - at least for a half, before we get the Indiana version of turtling.

The performance of "shit" wasn't nearly as prolific, but yesterday's 122 shits given definitely bests the 93 given for Iowa, but notably, it is only slightly higher than the Maryland shits - 118, to be exact. Historically, the blog has managed about two fucks for one shit, but the gap is narrowing some this year, so with a different crowd and slightly elevated engagement in these threads, we're getting some different behavior. Coming off a season like the last one helps too, of course. Anyway, here's the "fuck" / "shit" trend:

Comments

VAWolverine

October 10th, 2022 at 2:51 PM ^

As soon as Lawrence Reid (corrected) intentionally fumbled the ball out of bounds in 1979 to Lee Corso, to allow time for the final climactic play where we all heard Bob Ufer lose his mind, I knew we were all in deep shit with this series for the rest of our lives.

rice4114

October 10th, 2022 at 10:20 PM ^

Someone will have to explain to me how, although great for the moment, it became maybe one of the most iconic Michigan moments ever? If we pulled off a last second win exactly like that Saturday we would all be pissed. Its a different time but I kind of wish we were more like we were then so I respect that legendary moment.

michengin87

October 11th, 2022 at 2:02 AM ^

In 1979, the Big Ten was actually 10 teams.  The SEC was actually 10 teams and the Pac-10 had just recently added 2 teams from AZ to become the Pac-10.

College football had a couple of games on the TV each weekend. ESPN had just been founded that same year.  The money was way different and the promotion of the product was way different.

I love the game and love ESPN GameDay and all of it, but I loved the way it used to be too.

mooseman

October 11th, 2022 at 2:28 PM ^

Also remember, no one cared about a "national picture" or how you looked to voters or playoff rankings. The goal was one thing: Win the Big 10. (and go to the Rose Bowl and eat beef at Lowry's) That team had one loss to Notre Dame which didn't interfere with that goal. Victory from the jaws of defeat, goal intact. (Unfortunately a loss to Purdue and OSU awaited)

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

October 11th, 2022 at 2:35 PM ^

We're much more spoiled now in several different ways.  Back then we didn't have anyone telling us how good or bad every single Big Ten team's offensive line was, or whether their linebackers had a tendency to bite on playfakes, or how many recruiting stars they had in the last recruiting cycle.  Simply put, there weren't nearly as many preconceived notions.  If a team had a good record it was good.  If it had a bad record, it was bad.  And IU happened to bring a 5-2 record to Michigan Stadium that year.

We're also more spoiled in that fandom back then was not so fucking existential.

JBLPSYCHED

October 10th, 2022 at 6:17 PM ^

As you know Seth, Bo came from the Woody school where only 3 things can happen if you pass and 2 of them are bad....so I think Bo could almost never just order a straight drop back pass. It was too committed to a bad thing, or felt to him like doing something wrong.

As a kid of the 70's who watched us run the option non-stop, if I try and imagine Rick Leach dropping straight back to pass it even looks strange in my mind! Thank goodness for Lawrence Reid's heads up play and for Wangler's ability to put that ball on the money as AC ran across and upfield. Amazing stuff.

tybert

October 10th, 2022 at 8:57 PM ^

I was at that game, in Section 9, wondering - how are we fricking tying Indiana - this isn't basketball!

As for the Reid play, yes we did have one time out but needed to save it in case we had a long pass play and could call TO to try a FG with a dreadful kicker (Bryan Virgil, as Ali H-S was mainly used for kickoffs). CFB did not allow spiking the ball - that would lead to intentional grounding. You had to line and throw the ball at the feet or over the head of a wideout by the sideline.

The fact that the ball went to Corso was incredibly amusing, but CFB refs weren't policing those kind of plays, just intentional forward fumbling ala Snake Stabler to Pete B to Casper the Ghost (1978 Raiders win in SD).

Indy had some solid teams in the mid-80s to mid-90s under Bill Mallory. We lost the only "real" game to them in 1987 (Covid year is an asterisk). They gave us some close games, at least for a half in 1988, 1991, etc. 

I felt very happy with the 2nd half, even the pick, which JJ will learn from. 

Paps

October 10th, 2022 at 2:54 PM ^

I have a ton of faith in Harbaugh to be able to scheme up game plans to win games, but I have ALWAYS been wary of the "we are saving this for later" approach on offense, because in the last ~15 years of Michigan football the scheme adjustment we were supposedly setting up to unleash in the big games just didn't happen (more often than not, minus one or two cool but individual plays). 

Doesnt mean there haven't been masterful game plans (for some reason the one I always think back to is the OKorn OSU loss where Harbaugh had his TE army popping up wide open all over the field we just couldn't hit them), and maybe this is just a selective memory issue, but I feel like all the times I have heard "oh just wait until they use x to do y, z, etc", it didn't happen to the extent/success the fanbase/blog hoped. 

 

(That said I think we can beat Frames with execution alone) 

TIMMMAAY

October 10th, 2022 at 8:04 PM ^

This is one of maybe two actual examples that anyone could provide. So of course it's the one offered up daily by folks, as "evidence". 

Since Harbaugh has been the coach, we have consistently added wrinkles, and plays off of plays throughout each season. Michigan under Harbaugh also heavily tailors each gameplan to the team they're playing. It's working. 

But people want to make their cute little comments for imaginary internet currency or reputation. 

WFNY_DP

October 11th, 2022 at 9:54 AM ^

[edited out snarky beginning. no need for it. my apologies to the community and to the specific person to whom I'm replying.]

Personally, I cited the Pep-Cat not as a chance to take some imagined macro-shot at Harbaugh, but rather simply as a response to the original poster's comment about the *FAN* perception that "we must be saving [x] for Ohio State" or whomever. The Pep-Cat was a missed opportunity, in that they never installed the counter to him just running it. Maybe they tried and could never get it to work, maybe they never thought they needed to, I don't know. 

Turns out I can like Harbaugh and appreciate what he's brought to the program while still pointing out that sometimes he's not perfect. The Pep-Cat, the 2019 Army game, Cade running mesh points and never pulling the ball... those were either missed opportunities or flawed plans. It's OK, sometimes it happens. I wasn't making some giant commentary on the state of the program.

[edited out extra snarky closing. no need for it. my apologies.]

jsquigg

October 10th, 2022 at 8:41 PM ^

I think they develop decent opponent based game plans, but I think Harbaugh coaches in too controlling of a manner at times. They need more effective counters and audibles on hand to take advantage of a team's reaction to Michigan's bread and butter plays. At this point it is evident that they're coaching the QBs to be overly safe on option plays. I do think they'll have a decent plan for Penn State, but how much will they stick with what's effective and how predictable will they be if and when the game tightens up?

UMForLife

October 10th, 2022 at 9:42 PM ^

I am as naive about Football as it comes. My theory is that we just can't see the subtle differences in plays,.especially run plays, but I presume it happens in big games. Al Borges', pointed out in Iowa game how we changed our run game strategy with counter reverse from the same formation we had before. Mind you, I would have no idea what he is talking about until I saw his explanation. They probably don't do enough in passing game for us to see it better, but it is probably there. Anyway, would they do it in PSU game. I dunno. But, our coaches are smart enough to know how to break the tendencies however subtle it may be. 

J. Redux

October 11th, 2022 at 12:41 PM ^

Most of the people that claim that Michigan is "too predictable" have no idea what they're talking about.

You're correct -- just because a play ends up being a run doesn't mean that it's the same as every other run.  You can get a pretty good idea from the UFR, because Bryan and Seth put a ton of effort into identifying blocking schemes and play design.  Michigan has a multi-faceted run game that has generated Heisman-adjacent numbers for Corum so far.  I have a hard time understanding the level of angst that people have about this team.

Yinka Double Dare

October 10th, 2022 at 3:01 PM ^

It was pretty hard for me to get too worked up about the offense in the first half in particular. I've watched professionals go into the tank for long periods of time after off-field tragedies/losses, it's really hard to expect it not to get in the heads of college kids. Hoped that Hart was doing ok and could talk to them at the half or get word to them to reassure (which indeed happened) and they'd be back in it in the second half. The defensive side was more aggravating since it was like "STOP LINING UP LIKE THAT AGAINST A WALT BELL OFFENSE OF COURSE IT'S A SCREEN PASS" but they fixed it at the half and that was that. 

The tipping by alignment is silly, and I do not know why they do this. Going against the tipping will work maybe once in an important game. Seems like weird trade to make when it could also cause you problems in the important games! 

BuckeyeChuck

October 10th, 2022 at 4:01 PM ^

Certainly not too much to get worked up over, especially if the Hart issue impacted their focus.

I kept telling my Michigan buddy, and fellow MGoUser, who was watching the game in my living room, "this is not sustainable for Indiana." After the 1st Q at 10-7, I told him this was nothing to worry about, it will be Indiana's only decent quarter as Michigan dominates the other 3. After all, throughout the first half Michigan was getting almost 7 YPP and Indiana was under 4 YPP. This is not sustainable for Indiana. And yet it was inexplicably 10-10 at the half. Well, it turned out to not be sustainable for Indiana.

Chronology impacts our perspective so greatly. Let's say we flip the halves: Michigan outgains IU about 300-50 and has a 21-0 lead at half. You're all freaking high-fivin' each other in celebration of the pummeling. And then they go play a 10-10 second half, and you're like whatever.

The greatest enemy for the Michigan fan psyche on Saturday was chronology.

smwilliams

October 10th, 2022 at 4:17 PM ^

That’s a really great point although I do think, as you referenced about Hart, psyche does come into play especially with college players.

Which makes me think of the movie Miracle where the US is hanging around, hanging around, hanging around against the Soviets and Kurt Russell goes “We can beat these guys”. So the longer you let an underdog hang around, the more they believe they can win. 

gbdub

October 10th, 2022 at 10:04 PM ^

Not sure flipping the halves is really equivalent, and you need look no further than Iowa last week. Building up an insurmountable lead, then turtling on offense and losing a bit of focus on defense is annoying. Spending an entire first half unable to get a lead on a bad team is nerve wracking. 

This wasn’t quite as bad because Indiana’s first half “success” seemed ephemeral, and low and behold it was. 

But c’mon Buckeye, would you not have been a but nervous if OSU/MSU had been 20-21 at the half?

BuckeyeChuck

October 12th, 2022 at 1:07 PM ^

But c’mon Buckeye, would you not have been a but nervous if OSU/MSU had been 20-21 at the half?

I see what you're saying, and certainly I'd rather that not be the case. But not really nervous, because I'd know MSU had just played it's better half and only eeked out a one point lead. I'd be looking forward the the second half devastation.

I'd start getting nervous mid-way through the 4th quarter. I have enough anti-BPONE in the bank to last me 3.5 quarters before getting nervous.

mGrowOld

October 10th, 2022 at 3:03 PM ^

Two things:

1. I sure as Hell hope we self-scout or have somebody on our coaching staff who either watched the game on network TV or reads this blog.   It feels like we're heading down the path of the standardized snap count that MSU and other teams pummeled us with back in the Hoke era.  To date our opponents have been too shitty to do anything with this tell, my guess is the teams coming up on our schedule wont be as kind.

2. Good to know even Brian cant figure out how to embed a Tweet on this site.  I dont feel so bad anymore about my failures in that department.

Michigan4Life

October 10th, 2022 at 7:05 PM ^

Coaches don't watch network TVs or read blog posts. The only thing they watch is gametape which is usually the opponents that they need to set gameplan for or the past game they play to serve as a teaching tool for their players in film room session. 

However, they need to do self scouting by watching their own gametape to spot any tendencies. This is something that most coaches don't do unless it's bye week. They likely do not have time for it due to scouting other opponent, practices, recruiting and other coaching duties. 

DenverMaize

October 11th, 2022 at 4:12 AM ^

While this may be true, don't we have a number of non-coach analysts that do much of the deep dive film reviews? I'm sure especially for an away game, there's someone on that staff that watches the game on TV. Not to mention I would hope those analysts are smart enough to pick up on tendencies that Brian and a (very good) TV commentator see pretty easily. If not, we need new analysts! I imagine part of this is also new OCs that have been successful with certain plays and haven't had a need to move off those plays.

Nickel

October 10th, 2022 at 3:04 PM ^

It's been such a weird season, I don't think I've once yet feared that BPONE was around the next corner, it's just felt inevitable that Michigan is going to overwhelm these teams. And I don't know how much of that is SOS (has to be one of the weakest in the country right?) and how much of it is JJ + that offense and a pretty good (at least I think so?) defense that'll strangle any non-elite offense.

Either way, enjoyed the win and very excited to see them go up against a good team finally this weekend.

Vasav

October 10th, 2022 at 4:45 PM ^

regarding the SOS - yes our non-con was bad, but outside of Purdue and OSU, I don't think anyone in the league has played a team that would've challenged us (thru no fault of their own). Sure, the 3 we played are capital-B Bad. But what's the major difference between playing the bottom ten vs the bottom 50? I also think we underrate Maryland, but time will tell. I think they're in the same tier as ND and Purdue. Our ugliest win was a 21-point win @IU, after one of our coaches had a seizure. For sure I'm excited about Saturday tho, easily the best team we've faced so far.

reshp1

October 10th, 2022 at 3:05 PM ^

Is it possible to use gfycat for the videos instead of YT? There's an ad the pops up and covers the bottom quarter when you hit play and an even bigger ad that comes up if you pause it. Plus these embeds with just a timestamp link to a full video makes it hard to watch a clip twice in case you missed something the first time (like if you were busy trying to close the ad).

JonSnow54

October 10th, 2022 at 3:47 PM ^

This won't help with the ads, but if you push the left arrow, it will rewind 5 seconds so you can easily re-watch the play a few times. 

The YouTube video needs to be the active window, so if this doesn't work, pause the video, then unpause it, and then hit the left arrow and it should work.

If on mobile, you can double tap the left side of the video to get it to rewind 10 seconds.