Monday Presser 10-6-14: Players Comment Count

Adam Schnepp

players 10-6

Dennis Norfleet, Frank Clark, Jack Miller

 

Frank, obviously that wasn’t what your defense wanted [with] the third down struggles, the passing yards and stuff. What do you identify as the single biggest reason for all that?

FC: “Just poor execution. As a defense one thing you’ve got to do and you take pride in is stopping the run first and foremost, and then getting off the field on third down and that’s something that we failed to do this past Saturday. All we can do from this point on is continue to progress and get better as far as those situations, those third-and-longs, third-and-shorts even and come out next week- this week, actually, and make a difference.”

One of those was yours before the half. Can you take us through that?

FC: “Just failed execution. It was a pretty obvious play. I should have made the play, but that play is over with and I move forward from it. I think I’ve beat myself up enough over it. Like I said, that’s just one of those plays I should have made. I tell myself all the time- I’d say 99% of the time I would have made that play. That was that 1% that I didn’t.”

 

Jack, you guys talk about blocking things out and not hearing the outside, but what would it mean to the guys on this team to have a crowd that is pretty packed and whipped up for a night game here?

JM: “It’d be awesome, and that’s what we’re hoping happens. There’s no place like the Big House when it gets rocking, and we’re really looking forward to coming home for the first night game in the Big Ten here and all that stuff and having a fun night. So we’re looking forward to the support from the fans and the students and hopefully they can give us an extra edge to get a W out there.”

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Jack, Derrick was running really nice in that game. I think he was over six yards a carry. How disappointing is it to see that he’s not going to be able to play for you guys?

JM: “Yeah, it is. It’s disappointing. Whenever anyone’s season gets cut short it’s obviously a bummer. We have to look forward, and guys like DeVeon and Drake have done a great job, and Justice- Justice has been great for us especially in pass protection and those types of things, and Drake’s going to get his shot now so we’re confident in those guys and they understand what it’s about and I’m sure they’ll step up and be ready to go.”

 

Dennis, you’re one of the leaders on this team. What have you noticed from Devin since he got sat down? Have you noticed a change in Devin and how he handles himself, or is he the same Devin at this point?

DN: “Devin is fine. He came to a part in his life where he stepped back and seen how everything goes, and that made him a better person, that game. As long as he’s got us behind him he felt that everything was alright. That’s why he had a great game on Saturday.”

You guys are behind him?

DN: “Yes, sir.”

When you say “that game…” was it the one he was benched or the one on Saturday?

DN: “The one he was benched.”

 

Dennis, you’re close to eclipsing Stevie Breaston for the most return yards, kickoff return yards. Is he someone you watched play when you were watching games, or have you ever seen him on film and what will that mean to you to get that [record]?

DN: “To be honest with you, I didn’t really think about it that way. I really wasn’t not even worried about my return record right now. I’m just worrying about the team, and trying to get a W is the only thing on my mind and that’s on our mind right now. Returning, yeah I’m doing well but the team has fallen and we need to pick it up. That’s the only thing I’m worried about.”

You always want to break a long one, and that’s something that we can see you itching to do. Talk about what it’s going to take to break one.

DN: “Well, for one, it don’t start with me. It starts with with the blocking in front of me, so I depend on the guys that block and I respect them a lot because who wants to just go out there and block for somebody and watch them run? I take my hat off to my teammates, the guys blocking in front of me and I do my job.”

 

Jack, you talked about the guys who have to step up at running back. We haven’t seen a lot of Drake. He hasn’t gotten a lot of playing time. What kind of player is he? What have you seen from him behind the scenes?

JM: “I think he’s really, really capable. Drake had an awesome spring ball and he was getting in there and getting a lot of reps. I think he’s got great vision. He’s really quick. He kind of brings a different style of play, I think, than Derrick and DeVeon do so that will be interesting to see if he can kind of mix and match a little bit of differing styles out there. It’ll be interesting to see. Like I said, his number’s getting called on and I’m confident he’ll be ready.”

 

Jack, can you talk a little- did you feel that the offensive line made some progress on Saturday? I think this is the third offensive line combination. Do you think this one is settling in as the five?

JM: “I don’t know who the five will be at the end of the season [or] who it will be next week. I don’t know about that. I do think the offensive line’s making strides. I think even though we fell short of a win you could tell we were committed to running the ball and there was a certain passion that we had during that game that come hell or high water we were going to impose our will, and I think we did that especially as the game wore on. It’s a misleading thing. In five out of six games we’ve average over four yards a carry. So there’s been some bright spots there. As far as blitzes and stuff like that go, when you bring eight guys and you only have seven to protect you’ve got to get the ball out, you’ve got to run the right route, you’ve got to be on your game from every position when it comes to that. So we are making strides. There’s a lot of good things going on. If we continue to build on that I think the offensive line’s going to be where we want it to be.”

You said you guys came with a different approach. Was there something that triggered this going into this game?

JM: “Yeah. We’re pissed off. Everyone is. And we just said, ‘Let’s just go out there and do what we know we can do,’ which is play more physical and pound the ball and that’s what we did.”

 

Dennis, with Derrick’s injury how does that change- does that put any more emphasis  on you or the passing game or other guys on the offense to kind of step up and replace his production?

DN: “It affects us because it always hurts to see one of our teammates down, but everybody’s playing with a chip on their shoulder. If your number’s called be ready. We’re going in to the next game with our heads held high. Just focus as a team and try to get a W, and right now our brother’s down and we need to pick him up.”

Is there a feeling with another injury like that after the things you guys have been going through the past few weeks like, ‘Boy, the hits keep coming’ and how do you get past that?

DN: “You’re going to get beat up. That’s the game. You’ve got to learn to play though pain, but at the end of the day if you’re hurt, you’re hurt. You can’t go out there and you can barely move. Right now we’re just going to pick it up where we left off and keep trying.”

 

Dennis, you had a play where they were pinned deep, punted, it looked like you wanted to catch it and then it hit and bounced quite a ways. Can you talk about how difficult it is when you’re the guy back there to decide between ‘Do I go for it and catch it’ [or] ‘Do I let it bounce’ [or] ‘Do I fair catch it’?

DN: “Being a punt returner, you just have to feel comfortable. I didn’t quite feel comfortable how it came down. It was a knuckleball. It was good block protection and everything else but at the same time you don’t want to bobble the ball and have it go backwards. I just didn’t feel comfortable catching it the way it was coming down so I let it bounce, and coach told me it was a great call so that’s what it is.”

 

Frank, can you talk about Christian Hackenberg, Penn State quarterback? He’s accomplished, can do a lot of things. What makes him tough to defend?

FC: “What makes it so tough is how tough he is. He’s a very good- last year playing against him I know that I had never played against a freshman like that. He came in the game- I believe that whole game we got a lot of pressure on him. He had turnovers but the kid kept fighting, and that’s something you want to see out of a football player and that’s something I’m sure we’ll see this weekend. But he’s a great player. Has a great arm. He knows how to put the ball on the spot, and he looks to not make many mistakes as far as passing the ball. And he controls his offense even though he’s very young”

 

Dennis, you had a long catch, I think it was 20 yards, right in front of the Rutgers sideline but it looked like you had to come back a little bit to make a play on the ball. Has it been emphasized with the wide receivers in the offense to help the quarterback out a little bit, to kind of get to the football wherever it is and make yourselves open a little bit?

DN: “Yeah, we talk about it all the time. If the ball is in our area it’s a catch[abe] ball and we have to make our quarterback when he throws it know we’re going to go get it no matter where it is in our area. And the big thing about it is make your quarterback feel comfortable when he puts it in the air. Let him know you’re going to come down with it, so that’s what I try to do [and] that’s what the whole receiver crew tries to do as we go on.”

 

You guys are coming off a difficult week. It’s been a difficult season. Do you hear things like a fan saying, ‘Let’s boycott this game’ and what do you say to fans who are jumping ship?

JM: “I would say that I understand their frustration and I share it. We have just as high of expectations for ourselves as any fan or any critic does. I think to boycott a game or something like that I don’t think I would necessarily agree with because at the end of the day, whether people like to hear it or not, things are more important than wins and losses and this experience and what that atmosphere could be like Saturday night is something special for everyone involved. So to represent the university, to represent Ann Arbor and what a special thing that can be; for that to go to waste would be disappointing, I think.”

FC: “Like Jack said, we understand their frustration. No one likes losing, whether in life or in our case on the field. But then again, we love the fan support. The critics are going to be critics no matter what you do, no matter what sport you’re in. No matter what you’re doing there’s always going to be critics. And that’s fine; we welcome it. But at the end of the day we have to get this back on the road. That’s our job. We see it, we hear it, but it doesn’t really affect us. We’ve developed a strong bond within our team and everyone understands what we have to do to change the perspective of what a lot of people think about us.”

DN: “Right now the team has just had a reality check. Either we’re going to go out there and play and worry about what people think and we’re going to lose, or we’re going to go out there with a chip on our shoulder not caring what people say and win. That’s how we played Saturday. We just fell short. But as far as our fan standpoint, we always need our fans. That’s what makes college football football. That’s what makes us come out and makes us have energy. When I have energy it’s because of the fans, and right now we need them behind us just as much as we need our team behind us too.”

Comments

dragonchild

October 8th, 2014 at 9:47 AM ^

That was a really mean-spirited question, both at the players and at the boycott.

The boycott is being discussed because that's the ONLY method we have at our disposal to starve the beast that is Brandon.  The rally didn't work.  Complaints didn't work.  Boos didn't work.  The petition didn't work.  I hear rumors and heresay but the big boys are all publicly supporting him.  They think it's all blown over and we'll go back to taking it up the ass.

They do that because as long as the money comes in, they're happy.  So the ONLY way to hurt Brandon is the only way any sociopathic CEO knows pain -- in the wallet.  Empty stands will make the Regents panic.  It's sad that the players have to look at it but that's the way this goes.  There's more ways to show support than throwing money at the asshole in charge of the problem.  It's outrageous that ever chance is being taken to pit the fans against the players.  Whoever asked this question to the players should be dragged out back and shot.

Maybe organize another rally, this time outside the practice field with signs saying "WE LOVE YOU GAIZ WE JUST HATE BRANDON" because that's the only way to make this clear?

Baloo

October 8th, 2014 at 9:59 AM ^

Did you honestly think that boos and a 500-person rally would result in the immediate firing of our athletic director?  And the reporter should be dragged out back and shot?  Jesus some of you people are out of control.

pearlw

October 8th, 2014 at 10:08 AM ^

The rally did work if your goal is to make sure the regents and president are aware of the views of the students towards Brandon. They are aware now and will consider this and evaluate his record and look at what he has done in determining whether any action needs to be taken. If you somehow thought, they would blindly react to this rally by firing him immediately then I guess you can say it didnt work in that world.


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dragonchild

October 8th, 2014 at 10:41 AM ^

There is no evidence they are considering anything.  They are aware, sure, because it made the news, but that anyone's evaluating his record is pure speculation.

Did I expect an immediate firing?  C'mon, that's strawman gene-spliced with false choice with a dollop of reductio ad absurdum.  There weren't any indications that anyone gave a rat's ass about the grassroots even after the demonstration.  The media just showed up for the spectacle (that is what they do these days), the establishment came out in support of Brandon, the Regents were mum and the President just did damage control.  I read as many articles and statements on the rally as I could get my hands on and I don't see any indication our voices were listened to.  They're pretty much counting on the whole thing to blow over and for fans to pack the stadium again.  Only way to show they're wrong is to not play into their hands.

Baloo

October 8th, 2014 at 10:51 AM ^

What would you need to see to conclude that the rally or the petition worked? Did you expect Schissel to come out and say "yep, we're thinking about firing Brandon"?  The regents to announce a meeting "to consider the continued employment of David Brandon"?  What exactly did you want?

pearlw

October 8th, 2014 at 11:01 AM ^

You are correct that there is no evidence that your voices are being listened to. But Baloo is also correct in that there is no evidence that your voices are not being listened to. As Baloo states, there is no way to show that your voices are being listened other than the silly responses he mentions like they confirm they are thinking about firing Brandon. If they were or were not considering taking action, then there would be no way to distinguish their actions while considering it. I guess people just assume whatever is the case they want to assume.The only evidence is that they now are clearly aware of the situation given the rally and the coverage. Also, there is nothing for you to base the statement that they are counting on the whole thing blowing over. We all have limited info and I guess these arguments are pointless as people just make the assumptions and conclusions they want based on no evidence.


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TIMMMAAY

October 8th, 2014 at 12:30 PM ^

So you think the president of the University of Michigan just decided to have his "fireside chat" with a group of students for no reason? 

You think DB's radio silence this past week is a coincidence? 

Wake up. 

freejs

October 8th, 2014 at 1:51 PM ^

what you say here is support for the concept that "it's working." 

I have never seen a protest movement succeed that translated "it's working" to equal "okay, hey, everyone back to business as usual." 

If it's working, that means keep going, do more

How do people not understand how this works? 

westwardwolverine

October 8th, 2014 at 9:13 AM ^

See, the players don't really get it. Its not just losing, its Dave Brandon + Incompetent Coach + Losing. 

Its pretty certain that the middle one will be gone by the year's end barring a miracle and hey, if you have a terrible head coach you're unlikely to win much. So who or what is the only part of the equation left? Well its Dave Brandon, whose directly at fault for the incompetent coach and indirectly at fault for the losing. That's why people are boycotting. To be sure that that bag of shit is gone by the end of the year. And does it suck that the players might suffer a bit in the meantime? Sure. Absolutely. But when you're trying to change things, often you've got to sacrifice in the short term for long term gain. 

bigbrother

October 8th, 2014 at 11:17 AM ^

The players aren't the game. Spectators make the spectacle.

Do you think EMU football players put in less year round? They are still playing football, still competing. What does EMU football lack? 

Why did they build the Big House to eventually hold 150K?

Is playing in front of the largest crowd in the country not a recruiting pitch?

For almost 40 years, the entire Michigan football community had the luxury of taking wins, sellouts, and overall success for granted. That is a luxury we no longer have.

westwardwolverine

October 8th, 2014 at 12:17 PM ^

I get it man. You're cool, you sit back and criticize people for caring. I'm with you in that on a lot of things. 

Do I think that Dave Brandon gets fired because of this? No. But its important to keep making statements that its not okay that he is around. And that is what this is. Its more pressure on the people in charge to make sure they do the right thing and can his ass. Maybe it has no affect on his job status at all, but I can't fault people for trying and I support them for doing so. The worst thing Michigan fans can do in this case is stop applying pressure and let anyone think its alright that Dave Brandon continue on here. 

RobSk

October 8th, 2014 at 10:54 AM ^

almost by definition, are the ONLY ones who get *it*.

What is *it*?

The thing they get is that they are playing a game, trying to be their best, and working REALLY hard to get there and be successful with their teammates. They also know, after a young life filled with competition, that sometimes you lose. Sometimes you lose A LOT. They also know that in some of those situations, it's not because someone is stupid or doesn't care, but because the other guys are also trying to be their best, and working really hard, and sometimes things don't come together.

I'm pretty sure that's true. It doesn't stop me from being really frustrated with UM losing. If it continues, as I suspect it will, it probably won't stop me from coming on this board at some point and regretfully saying Hoke should go.

But seriously, the thing that the players "get" is way more real and important than anything I *get*.  /soapbox

    Rob

westwardwolverine

October 8th, 2014 at 12:22 PM ^

I respect this.

However, a large part of what gives these players their status and opportunity is the fact that fans enjoy the product of college football. The reason they get to be on ESPN and be varying degrees of celebrity is entirely because of that. And the reason that Michigan is near the top of college football is because of all the players and coaches and athletic department staff and fans that came before this current crop. 

So while I understand why the players might only be focused on the short term, on the game or season in front of them, its our job as fans of Michigan to do whats best for the program in the long term. And if that requires sacrificing some of the experience of the current players, well, blame Dave Brandon, who could step down this instant and stop all this. And that may sound bad, but its because we care about the future of Michigan football, a thing a lot of us have cared about and enjoyed for many years and want to do the same for in the the future. 

RobSk

October 8th, 2014 at 12:59 PM ^

and I agree with every word you say here . Fan time-scope and player time-scope are different, if for no other reason than a lot of us are all old-and-junk. :)

My main point, more simply put, was that remembering the above helps me to back off the ledge at times. However, I usually still keep the window open, cause the breeze out on that ledge can be pretty refreshing. :)

         Rob

pearlw

October 8th, 2014 at 9:54 AM ^

The school selects 2-3 players each week for these Monday press conferences. They also have similar amountof players available for the presser after the game and a handful available on Tuesday nights for small group interviews. Its just part of their schedule for media availability of the players.


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Jevablue

October 8th, 2014 at 9:18 AM ^

There is nothing wrong with simultaneously supporting the players 110% at the game AND calling for regime change.  These kids deserve better, and using them as cannon fodder for brandon et al, is not the answer.

maizenbluenc

October 8th, 2014 at 10:31 AM ^

Does the University leadership think who they have heard from is a vocal fringe or a very large portion of the fan base? Are they really going to take it seriously: do they think the can smooth it over with some smarmy bull shit? Or are they going to hunker in the bunker and hope the storm passes?

The timing of the regime change is urgent. If Brandon doesn't step down in the next few weeks, then we are stuck with status quo for at least a year longer or another Brandon led "process". Therefore, unmistakeable public emphasis is needed.

dragonchild

October 8th, 2014 at 10:49 AM ^

The AD and Regents will happily use the players as a human shield as long as the $$$ keeps rolling in.  I really don't think they care how unhappy the unwashed masses are; they'll just roll out the "support the players" line to maintain the status quo.

Frankly, I don't see how we get out of this mess without hurting the players one way or another.  They're hurting now.

S FL Wolverine

October 8th, 2014 at 10:58 AM ^

I agree with the boycott.  It's similar to a situation where a totalitarian government needs to be encouraged to go so economic sanctions are put into effect.  Are the sanctions perfect?  No.  Do the sanctions often hurt the people you are trying to help?  Yes.  But the only way to affect the long term change is to financially punish those in charge.  Eventually they weaken some and sometimes it leads to regime change or at least a change in policy to get the sactions removed.

I agree that boycotting part of a game won't do much to hurt the AD financially.  Sure there's some lost concessions revenue.  But that's about it in terms of short term impact.  What's more important here is the *message*.  And the message is that if things don't change, *next* season you will see lots of empty seats when people don't renew season tickets.  Is that enough to force out Brandon?  Probably not.  Because in the end, if he fires Hoke and hires a homerun coach, most people will forget their grievances.  It's ironic that keeping Brandon *might* be more likely to lead to the hire that we all want.  I have no doubt that it will be made clear to him if he's kept on that he needs to "make up" with the fans, which will require some policy changes, pricing changes, and an awesome head coach to rally the fans.  But in the end, the boycott *could* still help.  It puts the threat of empty seats next year on the table to force a better product on the field.

Indiana Blue

October 8th, 2014 at 9:26 AM ^

From the Michigan Daily:

Michigan punt returner Steve Breaston is just three games into his collegiate career, but he's already creating a lot of excitement over his position - something that hasn't been seen since the days of Heisman Trophy winners Charles Woodson in 1997 or Desmond Howard in the early 1990s.

"He's a good return man, he has something you can't coach, and that's the instincts to take it right up the middle north to south," said Howard, who witnessed Breaston firsthand.

While it is too early to even begin to mention Breaston's name following "Heisman contenders," his attack-first, get-tackled-later approach to returning punts provided the spark for Michigan on Saturday that was needed to get on the board first.

After a defensive stop deep in Notre Dame territory with just over seven minutes left in the first quarter, punter Nick Setta bombed one to Michigan's 44-yard line, where Breaston did a 360 in order to control the punt. His spin, though, seemed to just propel him through his blocker's hole faster. He was barely stopped at the 2-yard line.

I just don't see that same magic .... but there's still time!

Go Blue!

Sten Carlson

October 8th, 2014 at 10:49 AM ^

This has got to be amazingly hard for the players right now.  They know how hard they're working, how together they are, and how much all the player love Hoke & Co., but, for whatever reason(s), they're not getting the results they've been hoping for.

The lack of execution that we've seen over and over from this team is really befuddling.  I know there are many in there who want to say, "it's because the coaches suck ... " but I just don't why that would make such a difference.  Meaning, it's not like there is a secret technique that the the elite coaches know but coaches like Hoke & Co. aren't privy to, and that lack of knowledge is what is causing the issues.

Frank Clark knows to "run through" that tackle on Nova before the half, and has known it since he was playing Pop Warner.  Further, I am 100% sure that Hoke & Co. have told him repeatedly the correct way to do it.  Yet, on Saturday night, when the DC dialed up the absolutely perfect play call, Frank bothced it.  Why?  How does that happen with such an experienced guy who has made that play numerous times before?

I just don't get it.

mGrowOld

October 8th, 2014 at 11:41 AM ^

GREAT QUESTION Sten and one I"ve been pondering for a while.  Why does Clark botch that play so spectacularly and why do others seemingly follow suit?  Why do these things keep happening and why does the team keep losing.

I know what I think is happening and it's 100% pure speculation on my part but it's based on Hoke's personality and what is seemingly important to him.  I think it's "ok" to screw up right now and players that do mess up dont really face the negative consequences that they did in the past.  Hoke likes to be liked.  Hell - he LOVES to be liked and and bringing the hammer down on a player who fucks up runs counter to that objective.  I've worked with and for guys like Hoke and let me tell you - people never perform as well as they could when they have zero fear of the boss.

Jamie Morris used to talk about the fear of screwing up in front of Bo and what a powerful motivator that was.  They LOVED him but they were also afraid of him.  I think this team loves Hoke but I dont think for a second they fear screwing up in front of him in the least.

Sten Carlson

October 8th, 2014 at 12:00 PM ^

mGrow,

this HAS to be it.  As I am sure many of you have experienced of late, I've had phone calls and texts from non-Michigan fan friends asking, "what the fuck is wrong with Michigan?!?"  One guy whose opinion on CFB I respect a great deal said he watched Hoke's presser on ESPN and he thinks the team is taking on the persona of the coach, and that Hoke is "too nice" and "too passive."

Hoke seems to have created a very "friendly" and "family oriented," which is great -- especially for recruiting.  But, it seems that in terms of getting the best out of the players, it might not be the best.  Obviously we're speculating, and I am sure there are times when Hoke is hard on the players, but, I think your point is well made: the players aren't afraid of Hoke, and his personality isn't inspiring them to play their best.  It is -- at least according to the players the coaching staff -- inspiring "hard work" from the players, and unity.  But, something just isn't there.

One further thought, maybe the players that are attacted to this "family atmosphere" that Hoke has created aren't the "toughest" players in the world.  I am not trying to disparage them, but maybe the atmosphere/culture of Michigan right now is part of the issue.  On paper it produces good recruiting results, but the players aren't mean enough or something.  Then, add to that the lack of fear as a motivator, and we get this sort of bland, almost "friendly" style of football.

I dunno.

 

Justdontchange…

October 8th, 2014 at 1:57 PM ^

Look at games where the underdog has stoned a much superior oponent when comparing their w/l records. Look no further than Michigan's defeat of ohio @ ohio when Michigan was a huge underdog. How does this happen?

One, there is more parity than rabid fans want to acknowledge.

Two, something generates passion that gets a team to play way beyond their norm. It's the same principle that would allow a person of average strength to do something like lift a corner of a vehicle to free their child  trapped underneath the wheel.

Fear of retribution from the coach for repeating or even making a big mistake is perhaps the best way of artificially creating the kind of motivation to play beyond their normal ability. Conversly, lack of accountability or worse coddling does not bring excellence.

Jevablue

October 8th, 2014 at 10:58 AM ^

Why would top recruits come here right now? It is not because of our winning! Although Hoke is a good recruiter now, eventually even if he survives his personal ability to continue this will trail off as the strings of losses pile up with no end in sight.  And uncertainty over who will replace Hoke is not helpful.  Brandond is a bad joke. No matter who coaches next, the recruits that choose M will power the program.  And right now, with everything else being a negtive, all we have to show recruits is great facilities and a rabid, loyal, supportive fan base.   Take the loyal fans out of the equation, and it is totally over.

 Just like funerals are really held for the living, supporting this team is important for the folks yet to choose Michigan. Support "the team" now. 

Sten Carlson

October 8th, 2014 at 12:11 PM ^

This is sort of what I was talking about above.  As I think about this more (way too much) it's becoming more and more clear to me that the "personality" of the program is just too nice.

An interesting contract, IMO, is to look at Dantonio.  He's dick, and I would tell him that to his face.  He's got a massive chip on his shoulder, but nobody can argue that the guy produces results on the field.  If we adhere to the concept that players take on the persona of their coach, than MSU is finding players who, although "less talented" on paper (whatever that means), have chips on their shoulders and MD is harnessing and even accentuating this aspect of their personalites (especially in regards Michigan).

Hoke, by contrast, is very nice, and it seems his players are nice too.

IBleedMaize_Blue

October 8th, 2014 at 11:18 AM ^

I feel bad for the players but I support the boycott. Some people say 'You have to support the players', well to me a boycott is supporting the players for the fact that it can help get rid of an AD that is choking the life out of this program. Also we are supporting FUTURE players by doing everything we can to get rid of Brandon now.

True Blue Grit

October 8th, 2014 at 11:21 AM ^

they REALLY don't want to be there in that picture.  Can't blame them a bit. 

The boycott is wrong IMO.  It's harmful to Michigan football (dispiriting to the players, looks bad nationally, hurts recruiting) and won't by itself accomplish much.  There are other ways to protest our displeasure that don't harm the program.  It's suffered enough over the last month. 

pearlw

October 8th, 2014 at 11:37 AM ^

But in the long run it will be good for them, right? When they look back 15 years from now while watching a great Michigan team, they will without question say that being booed and playing in empty seats was the greatest thing that happened to them and was entirely worth it!


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pearlw

October 8th, 2014 at 12:48 PM ^

Agreed. My post was intended to be sarcastic. In terms of the players, their coach will likely be fired either way if there is a boycott or not. So the only difference to them will be playing in front of cheering fans or playing in front of empty seats. I dont understand how this is good for them in the big picture or long run.


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