Michigan Adds BYU, Arkansas

Submitted by Brian on November 6th, 2012 at 2:08 PM

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Release:

ANN ARBOR, Mich. -- The University of Michigan Athletic Department announced today (Tuesday, Nov. 6) its complete 2015 and 16 football schedules, adding contests with Brigham Young in 2015 and Hawaii, Miami (Ohio) and Ball State in 2016 to its previously-announced games.

U-M also announced a home-and-home series with Arkansas to open the 2018 and 19 seasons.

Everything save Arkansas is a one-off home game. Schedules affected:

2015

Sept. 3 at Utah

Sept. 12 Oregon State

Sept. 19 UNLV

Sept. 26 BYU

2016

Sept. 3 Hawaii

Sept. 10 Miami (Ohio)

Sept. 17 Colorado

Sept. 24 Ball State

2016 is now officially a replay of this season in terms of the attractiveness of the home schedule. Big Ten home games that year are MSU, Northwestern, Illinois, and Iowa. It's also the worst nonconference schedule since before the ND series resumed. Yuck. On the other hand, 2015 is excellent: decent nonconference games against Oregon State and BYU plus Wisconsin/Nebraska/OSU.

Arkansas as a home and home opponent… eh. Hopefully they'll add something else of interest in those years.

UPDATE: hey that guy predicting an Arkansas series was right.

Comments

snowcrash

November 6th, 2012 at 2:17 PM ^

3 legitimate opponents, and even UNLV is better than something like UMass or Eastern.

2016 isn't that good, although it's possible that Colorado won't be a complete joke by then. Hawaii isn't always awful, but they're usually horrible on the road.

Mmmm Hmmm

November 6th, 2012 at 3:07 PM ^

Cosign on the 2015 schedule.  If nothing else, it's nice to have some variety in OOC opponents.  While it would be nice to play one of the better MAC schools during their unexpected renaissance this year (who would have thought given how bad the MAC has been in very recent years), BYU is a real team and I still like a Colorado/bad Big East team over a Delaware State/UMass type.

On a separate note, I think Arkansas is a good choice.  They already recruit from B1G country (they took a few from Illinois as I recall) and they have some good teams, but they are not Alabama/LSU-level dominant.

Elmer

November 6th, 2012 at 2:20 PM ^

You're being overly critical of the 2015 schedule.  The Beavers are on the rebound and BYU is a solid program.  Utah is at least a PAC-12 school.  UNLV reminds me of Tark chomping on a towel...which always makes me smile.

profitgoblue

November 6th, 2012 at 3:49 PM ^

I like to think of them as the Sparty of the SEC.  They always seem to start out of the gates like a rocket (5-0, 6-0) and then the bottom falls out and their fans go into hysterics.  I think the past 2 years were more of an abberation due to Mallett's presence.  But I will say one thing:  Their fans are extremely supportive and will likely provide good TWIS entertainment if Michigan goes down there and beats them.

mGrowOld

November 6th, 2012 at 2:27 PM ^

 

Sept. 3 at Utah

Sept. 12 Oregon State

Sept. 19 UNLV

Sept. 26 BYU

That should provide a fairly robust strength of schedule component to our rankings.  No MAC Snackycakes in that group.

MikeCohodes

November 6th, 2012 at 3:00 PM ^

How would you classify UNLV?  They may not be MAC but they're MWC and 2-8 this year, they're the definition of a snackycake.

At least Utah and Oregon State are Pac-12 so those are good ones, plus BYU is a solid good independent.  All in all I'm happy with the 2015 schedule.  2016 home schedule sucks though, unless Colorado gets miraculously better in a hurry.

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

November 6th, 2012 at 2:33 PM ^

"Eh"?  We finally get what you and the rest of us have been pining for - a home and home against a quality SEC team - and the reaction is "eh"?  The mere fact that an SEC team was willing to leave the comfy confines of the South is worth a high-five in Dave Brandon's way, let alone it being someone other than Vanderbilt.  This is GREAT NEWS.   This is AWESOME with a capital AWESOME.  It doesn't have to be Alabama or LSU before we can enjoy it.

flwolverine

November 6th, 2012 at 2:48 PM ^

Excluding this year, Notre Dame has pretty much been a 4-5 loss team for as long as I can remember. So, if being a perennial 4-5 loss team is what you're worried about, seeing Notre Dame opt out of the series shouldn't worry you.

I, for one, am not really bothered by ND opting out.

(Yes, I understand the national presence.)

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

November 6th, 2012 at 2:51 PM ^

Their natural state of being is a four or five loss team.  

Not convinced that that actually distinguishes them from Notre Dame.

LOLDomer zingers aside, I would argue that if Arkansas isn't quality enough to replace Notre Dame, then really only about ten or so teams nationwide really are.  Not even that.  Alabama, LSU, UF, FSU, Texas, OU, USC, maybe Oregon but they're so new money you could easily make a 4-5 loss argument for them too.  As a solid second-tier SEC team, I'm happy with the matchup.  And we know how cyclical this stuff is; Alabama was a 2nd-tier SEC team in the '90s themselves.

Hardware Sushi

November 7th, 2012 at 10:14 AM ^

I'll just go ahead and say that I'm disappointed. I'd rather play...ehhhhhh, 25 other division 1 teams for a few different reasons.

Is this a bad team to add to the schedule? No.

Is the a marquee that can reasonably replace Notre Dame? No.

You're right that there aren't many teams that can replace Notre Dame on the schedule, I completely agree. That's exactly why I, feel this way: If we're doing a home and home against an SEC/Big 12/ACC/Pac12 opponent, Arkansas most definitely is MEH in my book of reactions to OOC games.

If we're being nice to Arkansas, they're the Michigan State of the SEC: had some teams in the 60s, pretty much suck other times, have each had runs when decent coaches and talent come together. The same can be said for Illinois and Iowa and Maryland and Oregon State. Just because their fans are vocal nuts that have a penchant for FOIA requests and youtube videos doesn't mean their a big-time program.

I know it was late notice from ND and we had limited options; I'm not complaining we are playing Arkansas as an opponent. But it's not an exciting replacement for Notre Dame no matter how it's spun. This is a replacement on the same level as Colorado for me, except I'd much rather visit Boulder. Seriously: how do you get there?...do they have a non-Tysons/Walmart executive airport in Arkansas?

Here's a list of teams I'd rather play in a home and home off the top of my head:

Washington, Oregon, Stanford, Cal, UCLA, USC, Arizona State, Colorado, Utah (yay!), Texas, Texas A&M, TCU, Oklahoma, LSU, Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Georgia, Florida, FSU, Miami, North Carolina, Virginia, VT, Maryland, Georgia Tech

NFG

November 6th, 2012 at 2:44 PM ^

I wish we could schedule that Arkansas game to be in early November so they could experience some Northern Aggression Winter Weather.  Only because the majority of the B1G teams have to travel South for bowl games, and practically play in another away game environment. But I won't complain, this is a huge match up regardless of date it is played.

Perkis-Size Me

November 6th, 2012 at 4:36 PM ^

while i agree, its hard enough to get an sec team outside of alabama to have the balls to travel out of sec country when there's nice weather outside, much less when its november and we're all freezing our nips off. but that's where i credit alabama. they'll play anyone anywhere.

bronxblue

November 6th, 2012 at 2:47 PM ^

I'm never crazy about playing SEC teams that have 30-person recruiting classes every year, but the home-and-home means they actually have to travel north of the Mason-Dixon line for once in their lives.

Colorado could be good in 2016.  I know it is crazy to think about now, but this team was 10-3 in 2001, and made a bowl game in 2007.  They have a history of being competent; give them 4 more years and they might actually get back to that level.

Lionsfan

November 6th, 2012 at 2:59 PM ^

The only thing that I'm a bit off about is how far away it is. I get that's how these are done, but it just seems like a lot of time for it to be canceled. How far is it? The true freshman for that 2018 team are in 6th Grade right now...

StephenRKass

November 6th, 2012 at 3:06 PM ^

I more or less like the schedules.

2015, as noted, is a good ("excellent") schedule.

Regarding 2016, I think that is probably too soon (for decent opponents) to get a home and home. Things are scheduled far in advance. We know that we probably could get Boise State to come here, but my guess is Brandon would duck that game. I don't know how many good options were out there. Just out of curiosity, are Cincinnati and Pitt big enough that they wouldn't come to Michigan for a one off?

I'm happy with the Arkansas home and home . . . as a start. I do believe that we need solid Pac 10 or SEC home and home games, and that Brandon needs to really be working on this now for 2019 moving forward.

ND really shafted Michigan, imhe. And yet, they are a team I want on the schedule. Before that happens again, a future agreement needs to be fair to MIchigan. Honestly, I don't know as I'd want to put them on again (on a semi-permanent basis) unless Michigan gets one extra game.

reshp1

November 6th, 2012 at 3:06 PM ^

Why do I get the feeling 2018 is just long enough for Arkansas to fire JLS, oversign like crazy, and become Alabama 2.0 just in time for us to face them? Maybe I'm just being pessimistic.

2015 looks like a fun OOC schedule. 2016... meh. Hopefully Michigan and the Big Tennnn! will have regained enough respect where OOC strength of schedule won't matter much.

babarblue99

November 6th, 2012 at 3:06 PM ^

I like adding the SEC opponent.  Not a fan of anything else.  If you subscribe to the 'non-conference games can enhance recruiting' theory (which seems to be growing in popularity), these games are not appealing.  If you are looking to minimize risk of losing (which was popular in the 2000s), the schedule is nice.

As far as increasing anticipation/excitement/competition of the matchup, none of these opponents do it for me in 2012. In 2015/2016?...who knows.