MGoPodcast 9.16: Another Bounty of Memories Comment Count

Seth January 15th, 2018 at 8:00 AM

mgopodcast 9.16

(via Madej)

We are at the Residence Inn Ann Arbor Downtown, where the conference rooms are fortunately soundproof enough that passers-by can’t hear you crying when you’re trying to eulogize the voice of great football.

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1. Keith Jackson Remembered

starts at 1:00

The man is remembered, with some of our favorite clips. Everywhere Keith Jackson went was the Rose Bowl. Mastery of self-effacing understatement. Interaction with Brian Griese and Bob Griese gave the 1997 season that much more gravitas.

2. Hoops: Inferior Coaching is a Good Excuse

starts at 18:02

Michigan State: A TV Teddy special can’t ruin an all-timer. Izzo eating his own liver on national television was fun. Wagner made Ward sit a few times in this game. Zavier Simpson could not be checked by Winston. Livers and the fact that Michigan can play five out is why this wasn’t the death matchup for Michigan we thought it would be pre-season. A complete defensive performance, took away the three-pointer from a scary shooting team. Beilein’s best defensive team? It could have been an incredible basketball game without Teddy—this crew is such an utter disaster and needs to be removed from the game.

Purdue: Respect to Purdue, gah the end. Zavier Simpson creates efficient and his assists are very efficient: 99th percentile? Transition defense is excellent—no more MSU running off Michigan makes, M 1st in the country in transition D. Absent something else gaudy this Michigan team is a 6th or 7th seed that nobody wants to play.

Ace talks a bit about CFS and what the community has done. CDC has historically failed those who suffer from it, stigmatized, most doctors don’t know it.

3. Gimmicky Top Five: Things That Were Supposed to Get Better But Didn’t

starts at 1:01:43

In honor players coached by Tom Izzo, we thought we’d talk about things we’re surprised haven’t improved. This was supposed to be wicked burns but they’re self-owns. Lots of self-owns. Ad reads that are self-owns. Bourbon’s fine but it’s kiddie whiskey. Let’s talk toughness, Miles Bridges. Also lots of talk of nads.

4. Ace’s Hockey Podcast wsg David Nasternak

starts at 1:18:48

Quinn Hughes is going to break somebody’s ankles. Michigan is 15th in the pairwise, ironically tied with Minnesota whom they beat three times. Big Ten is a lot better: OSU, PSU, Wisconsin, ND, Minnesota all playoff teams, Clarkston is good. M defense getting better. Special teams suffering, probably spending more time on 5-on-5. Will take a hard schedule .500 team on the bubble in Mel’s first year.



they’re not quibbles they’re great throbbing anger touchstones.



January 15th, 2018 at 8:20 AM ^

Can't wait to listen to the podcast.

Just realized that (and I'm not sure if this is mentioned) because Jim Delany is a robot designed to ruin college athletics, Michigan is playing 4 games in 8 days.

1/13 at State

1/15 vs MD

1/18 at Nebraska

1/21 vs Rutgers

Reminder to the MGo faithful that if they drop one of these, this crummy schedule is a perfectly suitable explanation.


January 15th, 2018 at 9:25 AM ^

Heard Bob Griese on Mike & Trey this morning talking about Keith Jackson, which was quite a delight.  He said how they'd go to dinner every Thursday night when they got into the town they were announcing, and people naturally would come up to them all the time to talk to Keith and Bob said that it didn't matter if it was before, during, or after dinner, but Keith was always very kind to his fans.   He said how they remained good friends all the way until his death.  


January 15th, 2018 at 11:08 AM ^

This doesn't surprise me.  His folksy, down home presentation told you who he was.  Aside from being the best TV announcer in the history of announcing TV, I've never once heard anything bad about him.  Even the best have something to forgive, but this guy didn't.

RIP, Keith...


January 15th, 2018 at 9:48 AM ^

Staying at the Residence Inn today.  Great place!  Customers rate it #1 hotel in Ann Arbor on TripAdvisor.  Where are you, MGoBlog?

Keith Jackson narrated most of the important games during Bo's coaching days and a few years later.  His M video history is remarkable, and he could easily be rated the #1 national announcer (not counting Bob Ufer) during that period.  It is very interesting that, as a Washington State alum, he called the 1998 Rose Bowl.  He was so identified with Michigan football that you would never have known that.  May God bless Mr. Big House, wherever his soul may be.


January 15th, 2018 at 2:15 PM ^

1VaBlue, You're right.  Mr. Big House did cover many other big games with other teams as well.  But even he admitted that he covered more games at the Big House than any other stadium, hence more Michigan games.  The clip of Bob Griese and him after the Rose Bowl is vintage.  "Hello, Heisman!"  Good bye, Mr. Big House.


January 15th, 2018 at 5:23 PM ^

I remember being obsessed with it for months afterward, even though I suspect at least 50% of it went straight over my head.

On the whole, though, Brian is wildy wrong to say cartoons for kids aren't getting better.  I regret it every time my life carries me away from the episode of Phineas and Ferb, Milo Murphy's Law, or Star Wars: Rebels my son is watching -- any of those is vastly better than any Saturday morning TV cartoon I remember from the 70s.  (WIth the exception of the classic Chuck Jones stuff made in the 40s and 50s, of course.)

And movies, OMG!  The first nine years of my life, the only animated movies for kids worth mentioning were (Disney's) Robin Hood, The Rescuers, and The Hobbit.  Pretty certain there's been at least one animated kid's movie better than any of those every single year of my son's life.


January 15th, 2018 at 11:22 AM ^

For that tribute to Keith Jackson.

When I heard the news I was sitting with my roommate and my girlfriend, and had to fight back tears. Neither one of them knew who KJ was, and it was hard to explain to them what it meant to me that a voice so inexerably tied to my childhoold would never be heard again. 

I don't think I realized it until this weekend, but Jackson was one of the reasons I fell in love with Michigan Football. He had that special way of capturing the spirit of fall Saturdays that I'll forever associate with the turning leaves, banner planes, the Goodyear blimp flying overhead and maize and blue wings. He brought an emotion to the game that I've never heard in any other announcer and now his voice is instant nostalgia. 




January 15th, 2018 at 11:48 AM ^

I was a little surprised to see him reffing our game because he had been "excused" from doing a couple games, so I paid a little more attention to him than I normally do. To be honest, we really need to learn the names of the two other jackasses that reffed the game with him because they were outright terrible. It's almost as if they expected Teddy to be subdued after his recent experience so they decided to make it up for him and call twice as many things as they normally would.


January 15th, 2018 at 12:43 PM ^

If Brian is going to rip on bourbon drinkers for their lack of sophistication, he probably ought to learn some things about whiskey first:

1) Bourbon IS whiskey. You don't "grow up and switch from bourbon to whiskey", because that is like "grow up and switch from novels to fiction". It doesn't make sense.

2) Bourbon does tend to be literally younger than scotch. But age is hardly the only marker of complexity or quality. For one thing, bourbon requires the spirit to be aged in new barrels. New barrels impart flavor and color much more quickly (or at all - scotch is allowed to add caramel coloring, blech) than the reused barrels used for scotch. Each whiskey is going to have an ideal age, and overaging is a real thing.

Also, consider that Johnnie Walker Blue, widely regarded as one of the finest blended scotch whiskeys, carries no age statement. Why? Because it would have to list the youngest whiskey in the blend, and people inaccurately associate age (and age alone) with quality. But Blue uses small amounts of young whiskeys, not because they are cheap but because they add important notes to the blend that older whiskeys.

3) Scotch is often aged in reused bourbon barrels. Your grown up whiskey is bourbon's sloppy seconds. But in seriousness scotch would be very different without American oak in the mix.

4) If you enjoy any blended scotch whiskeys, they almost certainly contain some straight wheat and/or corn whiskey (as opposed to single or blended malts, which contain only malted barley based spirit). In other words, you scotch may well contain something that is basically bourbon anyway.


January 15th, 2018 at 12:57 PM ^

For what it's worth I was itching to make a similar rant about the irony calling IPAs "overrated" but then going on about how great sours, i.e. the fad that replaced the IPA fad, are, but I'll leave that for someone else.

Great podcast today though, all the way through.


January 17th, 2018 at 11:27 AM ^

Your take on ribs is bad and you should feel bad.  If braised ribs were equivalent to smoked ribs, there would be restaurants everywhere selling a specialty of braised ribs.  There are not.  There are, however, thousands of BBQ joints selling smoked ribs.  Add smoke flavor with liquid smoke?  Imagine you go into a bar and there is a football game on.  You take a seat and the guy next to you who has been watching the game says "Man, they've gotta stop running up the middle, that play never works."  As someone who charts plays, how you would feel hearing that(banging your head against the bar) is how I feel hearing "add smoke flavor with liquid smoke."


January 15th, 2018 at 1:06 PM ^

Not sure it got emphasized enough- not only did Keith Jackson mention Michigan and Michigan Stadium often as his favorite; on several occaisions he mentioned his love for college towns, and especially Ann Arbor, a kind of first among equals.

Bando Calrissian

January 15th, 2018 at 9:05 PM ^

I'm not going to sugar-coat it. I listened to the Keith Jackson segment walking down the street, and it's a good thing it's so damn cold and everybody's eyes are watering like crazy because I was definitely shedding a few. That Pullman intro just sealed it.

I watched a video ESPN put up yesterday and the first half of it was about Keith's work with Wide World of Sports doing all sorts of garbage "sports," and damn if Keith Jackson announcing an arm-wrestling contest somehow held the same drama and gravitas as a Rose Bowl. He was that good.

Watching From Afar

January 16th, 2018 at 5:00 PM ^

That 2003 intro was and forever will be my childhood.

It is the single greatest intro to a college football game I have ever heard and to this day sends chills down my spine.

Even though he hadn't called a game in a long, long time, I'll miss Keith Jackson even more now.