Larkin Signs With Red Wings Comment Count

Brian

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[Bill Rapai]

Freshman sensation is out the door after a strong World Championships:

You kind of felt this would happen once Larkin started publicly musing on it while the Red Wings were like "whatever you want to do"; with Andrew Copp also gone that is probably Michigan's best two forwards electing to leave before Red Berenson's final year.

That final year projects to be about the same as the last three now.

Comments

Canadian

May 21st, 2015 at 3:07 PM ^

Damn. Had hoped to see him for at least one more season. Makes sense though. Work with Blashil now and get foot in the door for training camp.

stephenrjking

May 21st, 2015 at 3:12 PM ^

Can't blame the guy. Very discouraging as a fan. It's clear that Red has lost his fastball; whomever comes in next will have to completely rebuild the program. Going to be hard to follow hockey next season. At least basketball is good.

stephenrjking

May 21st, 2015 at 4:26 PM ^

It's not just Larkin; it's also Andrew Copp, an Ortmeyer-type with a much harder road to NHL success, the local kid who went to Skyline and loves Michigan as much as anyone, also leaving early. They're not just leaving because they're good enough; it looks to me and others like they're leaving because the Michigan Hockey program isn't that great to be around right now. Either the program is terrifically talented and has massively underachieved for three years, or it's not as talented as we think. Either way, the results speak for themselves--a program unequalled in its consistent record of success under Red has suddenly become, in a massive conference downswing no less, a mediocre team that can't make the NCAA tournament. As Brian has said, no program in hockey is more patient than Detroit. They out no pressure on Larkin. He left anyway. After next season it will be four consecutive years without a Tourney berth. If that's not a rebuilding job for this program, I don't know what is.

Canadian

May 21st, 2015 at 5:09 PM ^

Detroit may not have pressured him publicly but they definitely wanted him up. Jimmy D has stated how disappointed he is with Mantha's season and lack of progression. Larkin may have jumped above Mantha with his solid year and could be earning his spot with the Red Wings this off season. When Copp left he went right to Winnipeg, and even played in the last game of the season. I expect for him to fight for a spot on the fourth line or be a top 6 forward in the AHL making a solid wage.
Has the program had a bad stretch? Yes, there is no denying that fact; but is it a bad sign on Red's coaching abilities when his players leave early and make a healthy living playing hockey? No.

stephenrjking

May 21st, 2015 at 9:21 PM ^

College players who sign before the end of the NHL regular season almost always get called up to the top level for a game or two, whether they have an NHL future or not. Shawn Hunwick dressed for Columbus and was out of hockey a year later, etc. It's a standard practice that gives young guys a game or two of top seasoning and the organization a chance to learn about them. Teams that are in the playoff hunt can rest guys that they will need later, since the college kids aren't eligible for the playoffs anyway; basement teams have nothing better to do. Been this way for years. Your logic is flawed. Red was a great coach, had forgotten more about hockey than any of us will ever know, and still doubtlessly knows a lot. But the results are simply beyond dispute; the team isn't winning. Further, talented guys aren't developing, and the locker room has been a problem for several years (we thought we had lost bad apples after last season, and maybe we did, but the loss of Copp, who was a big Red supporter in past seasons, suggests that things are still unpleasant). This doesn't invalidate Red's contribution to the program, his greatness, or his quality as a person. And nobody is calling for him to be fired; he has earned the right to choose when to retire. But he's going to retire on a four-year streak of no tournaments. Coaches of top programs who miss that many tourneys in a row aren't doing that well.

Canadian

May 22nd, 2015 at 10:39 AM ^

I am well aware of the college kids barely playing right after signing but they can be eligible for the playoffs. Look at Danny Dekeyser. Was signed at the end of March an played in the playoffs with the wings an then went down after Detroit was eliminated and played with GR and won the Calder Cup.

matty blue

May 22nd, 2015 at 9:27 AM ^

when a great pitcher loses his fastball, he can still get people out by changing speeds and hitting spots, but it gets harder and harder for him to completely dominant for long stretches by blowing people away. 

that's how it feels with red the last few years.  at one point he could just put out wave after wave of super-talented kids, but he doesn't retain them the way he used to, and while we can still get on hot streaks, we can't dominate for long stretches any more.

umichshea

May 21st, 2015 at 3:17 PM ^

Red needed to retire after his loss in the title game. Go out on top...sorta. At least the streak would have been in tact. Ugly season coming next year. We've seen how this goes in football...can't take anything for granted.



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bronxblue

May 21st, 2015 at 3:22 PM ^

I kinda feel bad for Red's last year given the composition of the team he'll probably get back.  I guess it wasn't completely unexpected, but this defensively-limited team really needed some scorers to have any chance.  

Bando Calrissian

May 21st, 2015 at 4:59 PM ^

Red pretty much made the bed here, as far as I'm concerned. It's sad to watch him go out like this, chasing the dragon over and over and over again... 

If only any of the ten or so teams Red has had since 1998 that were leaps and bounds better than that 2011 team had played with the same kind of heart and intensity come March and April... 

jsimms

May 21st, 2015 at 3:29 PM ^

in the last three years

zero ncaa appearances

zero league tournament championships

zero regular seaon league championships

and the same goalie situation for the 2015-2016 season

 

Don

May 21st, 2015 at 3:30 PM ^

with the goal of signing a pro contract as soon as possible. Michigan has basically become a 1-2 yr farm system for the pros. The notion of getting an education is just as ridiculous a lip-service pretense as in basketball.

AnthonyThomas

May 21st, 2015 at 5:23 PM ^

This is wrong on multiple levels. 

No one's "using" Red. I'll venture to guess that he gets paid more than any college hockey coach in the country. And since college education has become, now more than ever, a very expensive form of job training, these kids making at the very least six-figures as 20-year-olds are doing better than their peers. 

CaptChuck

May 21st, 2015 at 3:39 PM ^

By turning pro and playing with Grand Rapids during the playoffs he is getting the chance to have some playing time infront of Blashill who will probably be the next head coach of the Wings.  Sucks for Michigan and Red, but it is the right move for Larkin.

Rabbit21

May 21st, 2015 at 3:40 PM ^

Oy!  Hopefully this is a Florida St. type situation in which the bones of the program are good and a new coach can get it going again relatively quickly. 

Still it's a bad sign when the guys who are suppossed to be next years building blocks are going for the escape hatches as quickly as possible.

gwkrlghl

May 21st, 2015 at 4:16 PM ^

Can't say I'm surprised though. Sadly it looks like Red will probably retire with a whimper after so many years of dominances. Tough way to watch one of the great ones go out but it's happened to many before him

Orlando BlueM

May 21st, 2015 at 5:09 PM ^

That's what people are missing.  Larkin is an elite (or very near elite) prospect.  Him leaving is not a sign that the sky is falling around the program.  Copp was a different story, but Larkin leaving reminds me of Pacioretty a few years ago.  He's a guy that will spend a couple years transitioning from the AHL to the NHL and then hopefully move into being a top line kind of player.  He proved himself capable at the World Championships and made a reasonable decision to move on.  He was even quoted as saying that his year at Michigan was the best/most fun year he's had in hockey.

That's Just Kramer

May 21st, 2015 at 5:20 PM ^

enlightenedbum

May 21st, 2015 at 6:42 PM ^

It was pretty clear by February or so that he was vastly overqualified for college hockey.  Dominating at that level next year wasn't going to do him a ton of good.  It sucks for Michigan, but he's clearly ready for the AHL and could probably contribute as a fourth line guy already in the NHL.