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Brian

Oblig coach obit. Don't get on my case, man.

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I mean, he gave Penn State a free shot at the endzone by taking a timeout with three seconds left in the first half.

What do you do with that? How do you put that into your ongoing calculations? Add that datum to the rickety mess that is your ever-shifting, often-hypocritical, prone-to-explode model of your favorite thing in the world, and what happens? I don't know. The brain elects not to travel down that path. The future ceases to exist, replaced by only the ever more nonsensical present. All series diverge. Projection is impossible.

Let's jam that thing in anyway.

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Not an improvement, but not any worse either. At that point such a thing was almost expected, after the previous year's offensive line roulette and 27 for 27 and two minute drills that usually took five minutes. Time for some maniacal giggling, then.

On the bright side, even three-and-a-half years deep into a coaching tenure that resembled nothing so much as Wile E. Coyote sauntering off a cliff Brady Hoke still had ways to surprise you.

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via Seth

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Brady Hoke should never have been Michigan's football coach. This was apparent from the start, as at the time of his hire he had two assets: the fool's gold of an undefeated MAC regular season and a reasonable, if truncated, turnaround job at San Diego State. Aside from that he had five seasons of average MAC ball and zero years as a coordinator. Even the breakout year at Ball State ended with consecutive blowout losses to Buffalo and Tulsa.

When you stake your program to a resume like that you're as likely as not to come out the other end with Tim Beckman or Tim Brewster or Darrell Hazell. An infinite number of nondescript gentleman have had the ball bounce the right way during the furball that is a season in the Mid-American. Some of them populate the lower rungs of the Big Ten when Purdue can't think of anything better.

And then there's Bo.

Bo was on another level, having gone 27-8-1 in league play in six years with Miami. Even he was widely derided. Here is that picture again.

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In the center is a man who has made a Decision. It's no exaggeration to say that Michigan's best and… most recent athletic directors staked their careers on whether they could separate coaching talent from noise.

All these years later, you get why Canham rolled the dice on Bo. Bo was a legendary hardass who took nothing from anyone and comfortably existed atop the roiling mass of chaos that is any football program, successful or not. He chewed out players on the sidelines, sent them back in the game, and cracked impish smiles at the reaming he'd just handed to the young man. He has a gravitas that stays with the program—veritably looms—a decade after his death. Bo had the proverbial It, and you can understand how he communicated that to Canham in whatever passed for a job interview between them.

That understanding will permanently elude historians attempting to discern what comparable force of personality Brady Hoke brought to a press conference in the Junge Center in January 2011.

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There was a moment, though. Now it's hard to remember that Brady Hoke had two years in which it seemed he was indeed gold that does not glitter. Hoke gruffly intoned "This Is Michigan, fergodsakes" in response to a question nobody remembers. He wore short sleeves in weather ranging from torrid to frozen. His matter-of-fact declarations and tough toughness were his tentpoles. We hung a great edifice of hope on it; Hoke going to and winning a BCS game in year one provided buttresses and filigree and whatnot to the structure.

At a few years remove it's clear that Hoke stumbled ass-backwards into that success. Few 11-2 seasons have been jankier than Michigan's 2011. The Notre Dame game that kicked things off was a deranged exercise in winning against double coverage; Michigan threw 41 times for 2.8 YPA against Michigan State; they had 166 yards of offense before chuck-and-pray time against Iowa; they were one overthrown Braxton Miller pass away from losing to a .500 OSU team; they won that bowl game with 184 yards of total offense.

The signs were all there, even in the moment ("lucky as hell," quoth this space in the aftermath of the Denard After Dentist game). I alternated between excitement at the idea of a head coach who had an innate aggressiveness on fourth down and wondering why the hell they thought Denard Robinson could be Tom Brady.

But the games were won, and the recruits rolled in. Hoke seemed to stroll through a garden of four-stars gathering what he would. For a year or two, everything seemed just fine. In 2013, Michigan beat Notre Dame rather easily. Michigan fans were walking on air. Then someone looked down.

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Rarely in the history of college football has a fanbase been jerked so rudely to attention as already beleaguered Michigan fans were in 2013. The relatively straight line that was the Hoke era turned into a harrowing plunge straight into the bowels of second-and-eleven-play-action hell. Save for an inexplicable Ohio State game, Michigan became the most brutally unwatchable team in the country the instant they left the field against Notre Dame.

Hoke was the same person through the good bits and the bad. He was gruffly nonsensical to start and gruffly nonsensical to end. As success turned to failure, the things we liked about him became the things we hated about him. Remember when this was hilarious?

via Ace

That joke isn't funny anymore.

Despite the fact that people will still swear up and down that Brady Hoke is a great dude, I have less charity in my heart for him than I did Rich Rodriguez when it came to write his obit. A slice from that piece:

Coaches aren't humans. They are walking soundbites wrapped in great swirling cloaks of mythology. Rap on one of their chests. You will get a hollow clang and a statement about senior leadership. Kick sand in one of their faces. You will get a lecture from Peter the Great. Peter the Great will be confused and incensed that he cannot sentence you to hang. Tell one his aunt has been dismembered by bikers on PCP and you will get a statement about senior leadership. Seniors don't do PCP and rip aunts limb from limb, because they have leadership.

Rodriguez was human. He was just this guy. He wasn't supernatural or metallic. If you rapped his chest he would probably get a little weepy. He did not seem like a great leader of men, or a colossus astride anything, or even a dude fully in control of his shit.

Hoke was that coachbot even in impossible circumstances. By the end so many indignities had piled up that I was waiting for him to snap.

It never came. He endured the brutally painful press conference following last year's Minnesota game as a coachbot. He released a statement apologizing to Michigan State for Joe Bolden putting a small piece of metal in their field. At no point did he bite the head off a reporter, or say that his boss had sold him down the river, or do anything at all other than repeat the same goddamn things he'd been repeating for two straight years.

I liked Rodriguez because he seemed like a person who reacted to stimuli. He reacted too much, but at least you could see that he was processing information and coming to conclusions about what it meant.

Hoke did not do this. Whether Hoke was stoic or insensate is in the eye of the beholder; given the chaos around the program my vote is the latter. He seemed to shut down in terror when his dream job turned to a nightmare.

As the competence of his team deteriorated, Hoke shuffled his coaching staff nonsensically instead of making real changes. He stuck with his terrible punt formation and a style of offense unsuited for his quarterbacks. Even after it was clear his disastrous program could not be allowed to continue—the financial ruin it would cause must have been apparent to even Michigan's most recent athletic director—nothing changed. If Hoke thought he had a chance, well, he also called timeout to give Penn State a free Hail Mary.

At least Nero fiddled. Brady Hoke stood there in the rain without so much as shaking a fist at the heavens.

Comments

Sac Fly

August 6th, 2015 at 1:25 PM ^

That offensive staff had no business coaching college football and had never functioned without Jim Tressel doing most of their jobs.

He was given his first head coaching job as a fall guy to bridge the gap between Urban Meyer. He was given Jim Bollman, an OC who held the position for 10 years and never called his own plays, and started Joe Bauserman.

That's sounds much worse.

carlos spicywiener

August 6th, 2015 at 1:30 PM ^

Jim Bollman is doing a great job at MSU and looks plenty competent there, which invalidates the claim in your 1st sentence.

In the third, Bauserman was quickly benched in favor of the 5 star, future big 10 player of the year braxton miller. RR had to make do with walk-on Nick Sheridan.

And yet, here you are, claiming that Fickell walked into the worse situation.

Sac Fly

August 6th, 2015 at 1:57 PM ^

Jim Bollman may be doing great at MSU, but he's not the offensive play caller. That's Dave Warner. Even if he was, that doesn't change the fact that at OSU he didn't show any ability to call anything besides inside runs.

And as for Rich Rod "making due" with Nick Sheridan, he wouldn't have been in that situation if their only QB was someone besides Justin Feagin.

Yeoman

August 6th, 2015 at 9:35 PM ^

It's not correct for more reasons than one.  Threet would have been making do; Sheridan was a choice. I'm guessing there are very, very few football coaches who would have started Sheridan over Threet. Rodriguez chose to play the walk-on because he picked up the offense faster and the priority for that season was to implement the offense.

saveferris

August 6th, 2015 at 1:34 PM ^

So if Rodriguez had managed to get the 2008 team to 5 wins, you'd give him more credit?  Six wins?  Seven?  What's the threshold?

This complaint about 2008 being worse than it had to be because Rodriguez was too stubborn about implementing his system is so tired and complete bullshit.

Little Jimmy

August 6th, 2015 at 12:51 PM ^

he would run.  The Threet/Sheridan arguement is only there b/c RR created that by making it know his new offensive gameplan was going to be intorduced no matter what.

RR's first mistake was to not retain a competent QB and scheme with the available talent.

I liked RR more than Hoke but come one - he was a disaster on his own.  The infighting within the progam and AD just sped up his eventual demise.

Little Jimmy

August 6th, 2015 at 3:32 PM ^

when he first came and one of the first things he did was talk with Denard and get him on board?  Remeber how the first year was a definite Borges/Denard spread "fusion" as Brian like to call it?

RR failed to do that and although you nor I will ever know exactly what went down to make Mallett transfer to Arkansas, claiming Carr was the single reason for him to leave is just being blind to the other factors that went into his decision.

Asshole or not, Mallett was thinking of what was best for him and his career and playing for a guy who was going to not use his abilities as a pocket passing QB played a HUGE factor in pushing him out the door.

As your brother's girlfriend's sister's hairdresser's uncle's boyfriend that and see what your answer is.

MileHighWolverine

August 7th, 2015 at 9:25 AM ^

You commit to the program, not the coach....it's not like Carr was so worried about these kids futures that he told them ahead of time he planned on retiring at some point during their 4/5 year tenure at the program. And remember, he had already tried to convince the AD to let him retire at least once so he knew the final class recruiting would be his last. Think that ever came up in conversation? Do you think he told RR he would make the transfer offer to the players? 

That move is not as altruistic as you think it is.

Yeoman

August 7th, 2015 at 8:35 PM ^

He was facing a room full of players worrying about their futures in a completely different system that they weren't recruited for and that many of them might not fit into, and he talked them off the ledge. Talked them out of any hasty decisions. You'll note that not one player took him up on his offer. You might also recall that Rodriguez and Carr were still on speaking terms, still being seen in public together, after this meeting took place.

It was no more an "invitation" than dropping the transfer papers on a desk in a closed-door meeting was. It was calculated to have the opposite effect, and it did.

Little Jimmy

August 6th, 2015 at 3:31 PM ^

who didn't maximize the best out of what he had,  Not making a harder press for Mallett to stay can be argued as one of the things that set up his eventaul demise.

Again, let me reinterate that I liked RR more than Hoke and wanted him to succeed - I am not a hater. But guys, let's be real here.  Lloyd may have dropped teh ball somewhat with the caliber of player, but the roster wasn't full of talentless players.

So what if RR took 2 years to implement his spread system. Ask the class of 08 and 09 how it felt going out 3-9 and 5-7 with no bowl? 

Our newly beloved coach sure seems to be able to take teams with players that may not fit what exactly he wants or needs and turn them into winners - all while building a team in the mould he wants.  RR did not do that and that's what he is to blame.

I'm not going to sit here and play the "what if: game but we know that what he did didn't work. It's only human nature to wonder what would have happened had things been done a little different.

MileHighWolverine

August 6th, 2015 at 3:59 PM ^

@PeterGriffin - I respectfully disagree with you on the following points:

1. You're underestimating how bad our roster truly was when RR took over - at least on Offense. The entire starting offense except for 1 OL graduated or declared for the draft after the bowl game. 4 yr starting QB, our record setting RB, 4/5 OL and our two best WRs left. There was not much talent left behind even if you account for Ryan Mallett who would have been a SO.

2. First, lets wait and see what Harbaugh can do before you claim that he can win with guys not suited to his style. His record at both San Diego and Stanford, where it took him 2-3 years to really get going, would suggest otherwise.

Second, I would argue he has a roster that is pretty well suited to his current style while conceding we are not a PERFECT fit for him. And finally, keep in mind the massive amount of attrition we've taken on and the unheard of, for Michigan, number of transfers we've accepted - like nothing I've ever seen for Michigan - and realize that Harbaugh is trying to do everything he can do to get HIS guys here as quickly as possible. One has to wonder what RRod could have done if we had been able to accept transfers at the rate we are right now.  

Little Jimmy

August 6th, 2015 at 4:19 PM ^

You're right - not every situation is exactly the same.  HIs turnaruond of SF is more an indiction of what can be done with existing talent than let's say Stanford.

It illustrates the fact that Harbaugh appears  has the ability to take existing talent and work around it. In fact, his "quick turnaround' ability is what allot of UM fans are counting on this year.  The fact that the players already int he system are a good fit for him only makes that expectation even greater.

The team RR inheritedwas definitely young on offense for the 2008 season - but young does not mean without talent

To blame the 3-9 and 5-7 records on a team being is trying to simplify the cause of their poor performance.  Many young teams with good coaches have performed better than the 08 team.

Superfun Happy Slide

August 7th, 2015 at 10:09 AM ^

We can't be too hard on RichRod.  The guy went from being the apple of the eye of college football studio shows --the next saviour for whatever program he eventually walked into-- to an oh shit moment, "Pat White and Steve Slaton aren't on this UofM roster."  The Tate Forcier adventure, in RR's last year, was particularly painful to watch.  In no alternate universe possible, was Forcier going to be athletic enough to make that offense work.  Then again, for all the criticisms, Hoke ended up taking RR's recruiting classes and went 11-2 the next year. 

IndyBlue

August 6th, 2015 at 12:45 PM ^

I think 6-6 was probably their ceiling that year given the situation at QB.  Had Mallett stayed, I believe RR would have adapted to a more air-raid type offense that would have fit his strengths. But with Threet/Sheridan, there was nothing he could do.  So yes, "suck no matter" what is correct as .500 for UM football meets the definition of "sucks."

steve sharik

August 6th, 2015 at 12:47 PM ^

You only had to go watch the spring game or look at this (from wikipedia's 2008 Michigan football page):

Offensive Lineman

  • 56 Ricky Barnum - Freshman
  • 61 Zac Ciullo - Redshirt Freshman
  • 79 Perry Dorrestein - Redshirt Sophomore
  • 74 John Ferrara - Redshirt Sophomore
  • 72 Mark Huyge - Redshirt Freshman
  • 63 Rocko Khoury - Freshman
  • 62 Tim McAvoy - Redshirt Junior
  • 57 Elliott Mealer - Freshman
  • 50 David Molk - Redshirt Freshman
  • 60 David Moosman - Redshirt Junior
  • 70 Bryant Nowicki - Redshirt Sophomore
  • 78 Dann O'Neill - Freshman
  • 65 Patrick Omameh - Freshman
  • 71 Mark Ortmann - Redshirt Junior
  • 91 Tom Pomarico - Redshirt Freshman
  • 69 Michael Ramirez - Redshirt Sophomore
  • 52 Stephen Schilling - Redshirt Sophomore
  • 64 Kurt Wermers - Freshman
  • 75 Cory Zirbel - Redshirt Junior

Add to that the QB situation and it absolutely made sense to go ahead and implement the spread option system.

DoubleB

August 6th, 2015 at 12:59 PM ^

isn't a strongsuit among the regulars. I specifically stated I didn't think it was the wrong thing to do to implement the spread system. 

But that team wasn't destined to suck regardless of system either. And did you predict 3-9? Again a lot of revisionism based on hindsight. NOBODY thought that team was going 3-9. NOBODY.

westwardwolverine

August 6th, 2015 at 2:33 PM ^

Yes it was. 

The only reason anyone thought 7-5 was the low point was because there was the assumption that Michigan couldn't go any lower regardless of the actual talent put on the field. Winged Helmets = bare minimum seven wins. That's what you're missing in your endless, pointless comments. 

steve sharik

August 6th, 2015 at 4:04 PM ^

Because of the QB and OL situations, the team was destined to suck. If you're going to suck, might as well do it running HIS offense. Do you not remember us trying to run the ball early in 2008? Having the D account for the QB in the run game (even Threet/Sheridan) allowed us to be more effective running it than if we didn't.

Yeoman

August 6th, 2015 at 4:25 PM ^

The real problem to me, sort of the original sin that led to the inevitable clusterfucks of 2009 and 2010, was the decision, leading up to Purdue, to suck running HIS defense too. Not so much the decision (though I think it was wrong) as the way it was made and implemented. There was no recovering from that, and he didn't.

Yeoman

August 6th, 2015 at 8:36 PM ^

Letting Shafer go might have been OK  too.

What I'm sure of is this: you can't call a staff meeting to do defensive game planning and leave the DC out of it. Fire him, if the relationship has reached that point. Don't just turn his chair towards the wall and leave him sitting there. It's an absolutely elementary management lessson: if you can't trust your people to do the jobs you hired them to do, you have to work it out or you have to let them go.

You can't treat people that way. Word of that kind of crap gets around. It makes it hard to hire good people; it changes how people inside the organization look at you. I know I never saw RR the same way again, and I wasn't even involved.

DoubleB

August 6th, 2015 at 6:01 PM ^

So you're telling me Lloyd Carr's staff would have gone 3-9 with Rich Rod's version of the 2008 football team (no Mallett, the young OL, etc.)? Steven Threet was a 4-star QB coming out of HS. He wasn't some turd off the streets of Ann Arbor. In a Carr system he would have been functional and maybe even solid.

And even if the offense was going to be as bad as you claim it would have been . . you can win games by playing good to great defense and trying to control the clock. However that's not the RR system.

For the umpteenth time, I'm not claiming RR was wrong to do what he did. But that TEAM (note the emphasis on TEAM) wouldn't have gone 3-9 with many, many other coaches.

 

FrankMurphy

August 6th, 2015 at 1:53 PM ^

Umm, defense? Have we forgotten that defensive ineptitude was the main reason for Rich Rod's failure? Even in 2008, when we returned eight defensive starters? Remember when Rich Rod tried to force the 3-3-5 on Scott Shafer, which allowed a freshman QB who was making his first start to shred our defense for 300+ total yards?

Rich Rod's failure to lure Jeff Casteel, and his subsequent blunder of trying to re-create Casteel's defense without Casteel's expertise, is what did him in. The devastating effect of Casteel's absence cannot be overstated.

MileHighWolverine

August 6th, 2015 at 3:06 PM ^

@FrankMurphy - I love it when people say RR "failed to lure Casteel" without mentioning the fact he had NO BUDGET with which to do so. Compared to Hoke who immediately was able to make Al Borges (AL FUCKING BORGES) one of the top 5 paid OC's in the country because DB finally allowed Michigan to offer competitive salaries.

DB paid Hoke $4mm a year!!!!! For a .500 MAC coach!!!!

But he (and Bill Martin too) refused to give RR a bump in budget to get Casteel. 

BlueCube

August 6th, 2015 at 3:25 PM ^

There's always a total dollar amount and RR could have taken a lower salary and allocated more to his defensive coordinator. He chose not to do it because he didn't put enough emphasis on defence and instead hired someone who would be a yes man and run his defense. It's not much different than Brandon hiring Hoke to do things the way he wanted.

MileHighWolverine

August 6th, 2015 at 3:50 PM ^

He was already taking a low salary to come to Michigan relative to other Power 5 schools at the time. And Michigan was not helping him with his Wva buy out. So, on top of all of that, you really suggest he should have taken even less to get the coaches he wanted?

That kind of thinking is what put Michigan down the shitter the last 7 years. If you want high performance, don't nickel and dime the coaching staff when your are already one of the most profictable ADs in the country. Give them what they need to be successful!

Thankfully Hackett learned from Sailor Bill and DB's mistakes.

raleighwood

August 6th, 2015 at 12:46 PM ^

"You play to win the game".  RR has no business worrying about 2009 in 2008.  He had plenty of horsepower on the defensive side of the ball (Brandon Graham, Terrance Taylor, Will Johnson, Tim Jamison, Jonas Mouton, Stevie Brown, John Thompson, Troy Woolfolk...).  All he needed to do was put together a workable offensive system (from a roster that had more talent than 50% of the B1G) and he could have managed a winning season.  He chose not to.