I, too, did some math equations to determine whom is the superior kicker;  My results are as follows:    12-10.

Michigan went 4 of 4 on Field Goals against MSU (Gibbons had 3 of the 4).  Conroy went 1 of 2.  Michigan won by 2 points...

That is the comparison I care about the most.

To me a kicker makes his "money" between 35-50 yards in college, as well as the NFL (more like 55 yds in the NFL) and the fact that Conroy has a giant hole in his game there suggests that he is not as good as Sparty thinks.

Yes, he attempted 11 more FGs than our guys but I sure as hell still have vivid memories of the kicking game under RR so the fact he only makes in 63% of the time from any sort of distance (30-50yrds) makes me say I would rather have our guys out there.

Hey Seth -

I got into an argument with a Michigan State fan—yes, right there is the problem—about our respective kickers last year.

I think you meant to write:

I got into an argument with a Michigan State fan about our respective kickers - yes, right there is the problem.

That depends on if he meant that arguing about anything with a Sparty is a problem (1st) or if he meant arguing specifically about the kickers was a problem (your version).

IMO It's always the first choice.

Good stuff as usual.  As I've heard numerous times, kickers are perpetually inconsistent, so one year you'll see a guy look like a superstar and the next time he's barely above a walk-on.  I will say, though, that Conroy always struck me as a solid kicker but one who missed way more than you'd expect given his reputation.  Of course, I also feel that Gibbons may be a bit luckier than good right now.  Not that I'm complaining.

And then something happened in 2012 where he would have a certain FG distance and just choke. Like he literally could do nothing to make it go through the uprights. Like you said: kickers, they are weird.

Conroy career stats prove that kickers have mental issues:

2012: 0-29: 7/7; 30-39: 6/10; 40-49: 7/12; 50+:3/3

2011: 0-29: 7/9; 30-39: 4/4; 40-49: 4/5; 50+: 2/3

2010: 0-29: 3/3; 30-39: 7/8; 40-49: 3/3; 50+: 1/1

As do Gibbons, if only because he missed everything in 2010 and has been extremely consistent since.

I recall Lloyd Carr mentioning something about Garret Rivas not getting the ball up high enough for his kicks, resulting in blocks early in his career. Sure, blocking is a huge part of kicking, but it is that way for all facets of football. You can have a wide open hole and a running back will still run into the backs of his OL.

I'm glad that Gibbons has turned it around. I feel confident in our kicking game going into this season. Can't wait for it to begin!!!

Because it surely can be a function of both. It's hard to say without seeing every kick if the defense got a big push or if the kicker didn't get it up high enough.

FWIW, a lot of young college kickers struggle getting the correct trajectory because they are kicking off the ground rather than a tee like they were in high school. That's why you'll see a lot of young guys get more kicks blocked.

I agree.  The numbers are a little questionable without the blocked kicks.  A blown assignment by the line isn't the kicker's fault, but a low trajectory kick certainly is.  In this post, a kicker would be better off getting a long distance kick blocked rather than properly getting it up but missing short of the goal post.  I also agree that there's no way to know who's to fault on a blocked kick without checking out each kick.  Someone had some tape to watch!

How was the second paragraph after the intro not

"There was a Big Ten kicker named Jack Russell and he was 0-fer last year."

I prefer not to argue with Sparty fans about anything seeing as though they argue mostly with their hearts and facts just aren't high on their priority list.

For a Spartan fan you should have used crayons and picture books.