Bleedin9Blue

February 20th, 2010 at 9:15 PM ^

I think that we can all agree that any prospect's reported 40 time is fake in an absolute sense. What I mean is, no Conway doesn't run the 40 in 4.5 seconds. But, 40 times are still somewhat useful to try to figure out what prospects are faster than other prospects.

If we can assume (and it's a big assumption) that in general, all 40 times are approximately as fake as any other 40 time, then we can say that a prospect with a 4.5 40 is faster than one with a 4.6 40.

Thus, I think that 40 times can be useful not to tell us absolute speed but relative speed.

As for your earlier posts, yes, you're right that as a DI prospect he should be getting better separation and that does worry me somewhat. Hopefully he can improve on that in the 1.5 years that he has left in high school.

burntorange wi…

February 20th, 2010 at 9:23 PM ^

but 4.5 on this guy looks a little too faked. not necessarily "faked" but mistakes made due to human error(hand time, etc.) make it seem so. and ur assuming a little too much if ur gonna say their 40 times are faked the same way. say one coach stops time generally too early. another coach stops time generally too late. u can have the same kid run a 4.4 and a 4.6 compared to his actual 4.5. a 4.4 is a hell of a lot different than 4.6.

burntorange wi…

February 20th, 2010 at 10:13 PM ^

my names "burntorange wit a lil maize." but really, -1 me because u dont like my name or my spelling. exactly the point of a forum based on sports. worry about names, ignore arguments. rather elitist dont u think? not letting/wanting a longhorn fan with a some love for michigan on ur forum. really good representation of UM fans? i dont think so and i hope u arent.

burntorange wi…

February 20th, 2010 at 10:42 PM ^

why would i capitalize shit...its a football blog not english homework. naw one of my friends told me to come post on here, and i love the recruiting process. plus there are some people who i disagree with and i love arguing. apparently they dont like my spelling cuz i went from like 30 points to 3 in about 15 minutes.

Maize_and_Drew

February 21st, 2010 at 1:00 AM ^

Not exactly.

For the record, I really don't care if you're EmO or not, just keep it civil.

And just so you know, MGoBlog isn't your average football blog. People come here to get away from the mindless, text message type garbage that's on MLive, CBS and other football blogs.

Plus, this blog covers everything Michigan, not just football. (Thanks Brian, FA, Tim and others.)

Bleedin9Blue

February 20th, 2010 at 8:22 PM ^

I'm pretty sure it's because Scout and Rivals are slowly trying to rank kids all the way down to 5th grade. So, since he hasn't cracked the Top 300 yet it means that he just wasn't showing the football dedication necessary while also learning how to do long division. The kids obviously need to get their priorities straight.

trueblue1997

February 20th, 2010 at 8:29 PM ^

I thought that they weren't going to accept that many early commits due to a smaller class. Oh well, if they think he's good, than he probably is, although I wonder if we will take another wide receiver for 2011, we have 5 coming in this year and so much depth that Gallon can barely play.

jmblue

February 20th, 2010 at 8:32 PM ^

The earlier they commit, the more likely it is that they pan out.

Why? Because such an early offer suggests that they are a priority for the staff, whereas the ones that suddenly commit late in the game are probably more of a desperate fill.

CrankThatDonovan

February 20th, 2010 at 10:15 PM ^

Michigan has 3 commits for 2011, one of which was just named to the first-team at the Army All-American combine. Our last recruiting class was around 12th nationally and 2nd best in the Big Ten. It included top talent like Devin Gardner, Demar Dorsey, Cullen Christian, Marvin Robinson, Austin White, and Jibreel Black. We have three top-100 receivers on the roster currently in Stonum, Stokes, and Gallon, two of which were recruited by Rich Rodriguez.

In summary, you don't know what you're talking about

CrankThatDonovan

February 20th, 2010 at 10:30 PM ^

You have the right to your opinion, but come on, "this program is so stagnant we only get sleepers" is not opinion, it is pure stupidity. You cannot claim that as an opinion because it absolutely is not true.

If you have a problem with this commitment, that's fine. But look at all of the posts you've made in this thread. Almost every one is just yelling at others for having faith in our head coach. Be a little more civil, and maybe then others will be more accepting of your opinion

burntorange wi…

February 21st, 2010 at 12:12 AM ^

take a sleeper now and see how he pans out in his senior year. obviously this kid has some great upside with the big frame, hands, and leaping ability. his intangibles: toughness, winning every jump ball possible are huge upside.ur not gonna find a guy late in the recruiting process who is a sleeper who still can pan out nicely.

Blue boy johnson

February 20th, 2010 at 8:34 PM ^

Some of you worry way too much about stars on a HS junior. He is big athletic, and the coaches think highly of him, what's not too like. I don't give a rats ass what rivals and scout think.

Maize

February 20th, 2010 at 8:34 PM ^

I see some jump balls and fades in this kids future. Looks like he could be a good red zone reciever and he has a little bit of shiftyness. Its way too early to be beating the coaches up for sleepers lets wait this out.

maizenbluenation

February 20th, 2010 at 9:04 PM ^

and will be happy if he is truly in the fold and the coaches want him, but how do we know this isn't Travis Williams 2.0? Or Holmes Owunkaife? I suppose if that is the case we will find out in a few days.

2014

February 20th, 2010 at 9:11 PM ^

Is he going to be a 1st round pick? Probably not. But with his height, jumping ability, toughness, and outstanding hands, he could play day one on 3rd downs and in the red zone even with his average wheels.

And there's no way one of the top recievers (i.e. Arnett) will shy away because of this commitment, he's not an obvious threat. You need at least two WR's in each class, this is a nice solid signing and we still have room for the five star.

Giddy up.

Franke8

February 20th, 2010 at 9:24 PM ^

I can understand where everyone on this board is coming from and I can't decide which side I'm on yet

Side A: The coaches are the Pros at recruiting and obviously they know what's best for the future of Michigan football. They spend countless hours trying to find the best talent in the nation to come and play for the Wolverines. If they offered this kid and accepted his commitment, well obviously he must be good. From looking at the film he has great hands and is pretty good with the jump ball. He's still young and may have his coming out party during his Sr. year and we will see everyone offer him.

Side B: The University of Michigan is one of the most historic college football programs of all time. We should only be accepting commitments from the best recruits in the nation. We have a very limited number of spots this year and they should be reserved for the very best athletes in the nation. The coaches can't afford to be filling up valuable spaces so early in the game. Michigan shouldn't have a ton of 3 star talent and a few 4 star men.

Again, I'm torn between the two camps. I guess I just have to have faith in coach Rod.

Tim

February 20th, 2010 at 9:42 PM ^

Side B assumes that they know this kid is a 3-star talent (at best), which they don't, Especially from a 4 minute highlight video.

The coaches thought this kid was worthy of a committable offer (more rare than it seems at this point in the year, with the number of "offers" out there), so they obviously think he's good enough to play.

m83econ

February 20th, 2010 at 9:29 PM ^

Looking forward to seeing him in person - I live about 1/4 mile from Seaholm. As Stephani mentions, the team has not been that good lately, but they play in the second division of OAA, which is a pretty good football conference. Conway had 11 catches for 217 yards and 3 touchdowns in 5 games last year.