Hand To Alabama Comment Count

Ace November 14th, 2013 at 1:15 PM

Da'Shawn Hand chose Alabama over Michigan and Florida in an excruciatingly long televised announcement on NBCSN, citing the opportunity to major in civil enginering and the chance to win a national championship.

I've got nothing else. This month can't end soon enough. Please be civil in the comments, especially since it's pretty darn difficult to blame Hand given, you know, the state of things.



November 14th, 2013 at 1:17 PM ^

Can't blame him.  Their program is winning NCs and developing players for the NFL.

In addition, if the reports that he was told he couldn't major in engineering and play football at UM are true (or even if it was just heavily hinted at to him) then it's even more of a no-brainer.


November 14th, 2013 at 1:22 PM ^

Where did those reports even come from?  It seems like they just appeared out of thin air after he changed back from sports management to maybe engineering again.  I don't necessarily believe them but if true, that is the biggest problem I've had with the staff thus far.  Encouraging Hand not to do engineering and telling Adoree Jackson he couldn't run track freshman year are unnecessarily rigid.  If Hoke were more flexible he could've had a much better chance at two high character consensus 5 stars.


November 14th, 2013 at 1:32 PM ^

I'm not sure anyone would have told him he can't major in engineering.  It's just that engineering and football are both demanding and engineering is on the north campus, some distance away from where he would need to practice.  Maybe it was more like telling him that it realistically wasn't feasible. 


November 14th, 2013 at 1:44 PM ^

Hoke being "flexible" isn't the same as not being realistic.  Let's see if Hand actually majors in engineering at Alabama, or if he starts out, realizes the balancing act is incredibly difficult, and picks a different major.  Lots of regular, non-athlete kids start off trrying to be engineers and move on when they realize it isn't a good fit or the work is too difficult.  I'm not saying the academics had anything to do with his decision, but the idea that a coach telling a kid he will struggle to succeed both on the field and in a highly competitive major seems truthful, if a bit hard for a kid to hear.


November 14th, 2013 at 1:53 PM ^

Would it be hard? Yes. The math and science pre-reqs are no joke, even if you're smart. But it's apparently possible, because several Michigan football players have majored in engineering. Garrett Rivas and Joey Burzynski (a biomed student, fergodsakes) are two recent examples. Yeah, a kicker and a former walkon, but there certainly does not seem to be a hard and fast "no engineers on the football team" rule.

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November 14th, 2013 at 1:28 PM ^

It can be done. I recall Stefan Humphries majored in Engineering at UM, then played in the super bowl and after the NFL went to med school and now is head admin at a hospital in Spokane. That was a few years ago, I know, but why not let the dude try?


November 14th, 2013 at 2:52 PM ^

Yeah, a lot of kids (both athletes and non-athletes) say or think they are interested in engineering and then end up never doing it. Anytime I hear an athlete claim interest in engineering or pre-med I take a wait and see approach before heaping praise on them for their "focus on academics."


November 14th, 2013 at 2:30 PM ^

Not at all. You need to disassemble the old outhouse before you can build a new one.

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November 14th, 2013 at 3:45 PM ^

Didn't take long for the BAMA is a redneck school comments to come out did it? The only problem with showing your jealousy this way is it makes you look like an idiot. You do realize you are saying your school was unable to get a top recruit from a school you say has a bad engineering school and outhouses for bathrooms. It doesn't really help your point but I guess it makes you feel better since you can't face the truth which is your coaches suck at recruiting. I'm replying to your specific post simply because you were the first to show your insecurities but notice after you many simple minded UM fans jumped on board. So predictable but so sad at the same time..... 

I also noticed most of the post on this site are actually very good and honest but yours ruined the rest. 

Roll Tide!!!!!


P.S    I was very happy this fine young man picked the tide but to be honest I thought he should pick Stanford. Apparently the football side of his decision was a little bit stronger than the academic side. If we are all honest with ourselves any NFL caliber athelete should base his decision this way simply because if he can go first round in 3 or 4 years and get a 15 Million signing  guarantee that will last much longer than a 100K a year engineering degree. Financially its a no-brainer. 


November 14th, 2013 at 10:12 PM ^

You took the time to make an account on a UM website. Who looks the fool now?

Flat out, Michigan academics dwarf Alabama academics. Sorry, but it's true. Which is probably what annoys most of us about this decision - it's obvious that if he sincerely cared that much about academics, Michigan was the obvious choice. But with Bama running the NFL scout team, he won't major in engineering.

I support this young man in his aspirations. It was disappointing, but I support him.

And frankly, we did get Jabrill Peppers, and he's extraordinarily talented as well.


November 14th, 2013 at 9:49 PM ^

I was not fooled at all.  He, like many of the recruits, were under the impression that Michigan was on the upswing, heading back to relevancy and perhaps even towards being elite.  The gap between us and Bama and the other elite programs is just too wide this year for him to turn a blind eye. 


November 14th, 2013 at 1:51 PM ^

Well, and 1997.  And 2006.  And the early part of the 2000's when the team was a veritable NFL factory.

Alabama has been less of an elite team over the past 20 years than UM; they are just doing well now.  UM's overall strength as a national team is there, but it is more cyclical now than it used to be.


November 14th, 2013 at 2:17 PM ^

"Alabama has been less of an elite team over the past 20 years than UM;"

That is just wrong.  What is elite to you?  To me it is 2 losses or less in a year.  The "NFL factory" teams you mention often lost 3 or 4 games a year.  That is not elite.  Not close to elite.  Esp considering the talent coming in.  Even the 97 team (which was elite) was surrounded by 3 or 4 loss seasons. 

Bama has had a much better 20 year period, how you can say that is beyond the pale.  Any team with 3 NCs in 20 years did better than UM.

I did an analysis of elite "blue blood" programs the past 20 years and the only team less elite than UM is Notre Dame.  Michigan has become a dinosaur.  It has a flash in 2006 but other than that has not done much in 15 years.


November 14th, 2013 at 2:29 PM ^

If you go just outside of this 20 year window, you know what you find?  Another national title for Alabama (1992).  Us?  Go back to the late 40s.  Bo came close many years, but even he had his fair share of tough 3-4 loss seasons.  We've been a consistent program, not elite.  Elite for Michigan was probably the 70s and the period from the late 80s to early 90s (1988-92).