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So this week a group of a certain kind of idiot students tried to get the student body to fund a Frankenstein-ian effort to replace compete with the best fight song ever composed. Once the entirety of the soul-possessing Michigan fanbase wanted to slap them in the face, they withdrew this petition to make way for an amended version that makes it clear they'll keep The Victors alongside their proposed abomination.

Today they're still fighting—one made a radio appearance to complain that his talking points were getting all scrambled in the mad rush to explain to him just what a bad idea this is. In the show he clarified a number of things, like that they've gone to "many" student groups to get more spoons into the kitchen, and addressed important things like the song's branding and a documentary film about how it was made, but haven't actually, you know, written any song. He also emphasized that they don't want to get rid of the The Victors (just have it compete with their self-aggrandizing golem), and expressed hope that it would get picked up around the country, like how Jay-Z's Empire State of Mind became a sort of anthem for the Yankees.

Ace and Brian already addressed how the thing and the guy proposing the thing are ridiculous (and Brian had to explain his tongue was in his cheek afterwards). Since the offseason generates user content at a slower pace, in lieu of Dear Diary* this morning I wanted to talk about what's so irreplaceable about The Victors, and provide a little deeper discussion on the topic than the prima facie "ungh that's horrible."

Change? Michigan has, in fact, changed its fight song several times in its history. Most notably, they replaced The Victors with Varsity for a time, because once Michigan had rage-quit the Western Conference, "Champions of the West" no longer made any sense.

An early favorite, and still the opening of any glee club concert, was Laudes Atque Carmina (Praises and Songs), written by Charles M. Gayley, class of 1878, and arranged by Albert Stanley. Here's the line I love:

ooooooohhhhh Gloria-Victoria!
Oohhh decus omnium
O salve Universitas Michiganesium

What a perfect description of the Michigan zeitgeist: "Glory and Victory—oh, and  be virtuous in everything while you're at it please kthx."

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Apparently we have to explain why this is worth keeping around.
This is probably a more applicable sentiment today than hailing long-dead heroes for conquering Maroons and Fighting Methodists.** But it's also in Latin, and dated, and pedantic, and most importantly nobody knows the words unless they've done glee.

The anthems of Michigan's songbook range in tenor from bawdy drinking songs to, well, pretentious drinking songs. The majority of them come from before World War II, and for a very good reason: that's when people used to sing a lot.

In the time before recording/playback devices, the way a hit song spread was by printing the sheet music. The way they got music into a bar was to get everyone in the bar to sing it. Michigan students would bring their songbooks to dinner, or dorm meetings, and certainly the game. As many students knew the verses to The Victors as could name the quarterback. The most typical extra-curricular activity was to cross Division‡ to their favorite pubs, fill a mug, and join the chorus.#

For thousands of years, getting drunk and singing together was one of the best parts of a human existence. Psychologists even found that most peoples' brains are wired to fire off the same happy feelings you get from love or a massive success when belting out a song surrounded by friendly people doing the same (no matter how it comes out). Biologically, we sing our fight song for the same reason we gather with 113,000-odd people to watch college football: The Natural High.

These things are not manufacturable; they are eruptions from abnormally articulate ids that by astronomical odds came out both cogent and catchy. The chance of finding one is the same likelihood that whatever just escaped from this guy…

…just happened to be organized into a comprehensible language that both rhymes and fits a Souza meter. Mankind's best effort to R&D this phenomenon resulted in heroin.

This stuff has to come from a random and deep subconscious because the brain cannot devise its own distraction.‖ Football came out of some students with a field and a ball who wanted to get their rrraaaarrrgh out. The Victors came out of Louis Elbel in the following state:

My spirits were so uplifted that I was clear off the earth, and that is when “The Victors” was inspired. To my thinking, Michigan Spirit needed a fitting paean, a clarion call — something simple but grand and heroic, something to let out on. Very shortly the strain of “Hail to the Victors” came to mind, and gradually the entire march. I am interested in the psychology of composing, but never have been able to answer satisfactorily just how a “tune” originates in my head. It is easy enough to make tunes, but sweeping, inspiring strains are not made — they flash unawares. And so it was with “The Victors.”

The Victors, like college football, is a weird configuration that happened to bring out a mass, biological, positive feel. Finding a thing like that is like capturing a moon: if it's a little un-genuine it'll crash, and if it's a little unpopular it'll shoot off into space, and if it's not awesome nobody will notice it.

Hail and Unite, then, is the equivalent of Disney suggesting we add a 1,000-mile radius Mickey Mouse (or maybe a Jar Jar Binks—we don't know—but we are talking to lots of interest groups and might have it designed by Bill Watterson and Matt Groening, and our marketing program uses lots of power words) to Earth's orbit, then saying it's okay because you still plan to leave good ol' Luna in the sky for the sake of the traditionalists.§ Even suggesting this shows a staggering misunderstanding of where moons come from, the physics involved, or why people like the one we have. You should not be involved in anything having to do with moons.

Could there ever be another song added to the pantheon? Yes, absolutely! It's a very big bowl; there is room for more than The Victors, and Varsity, and the alma mater, and Let's Go Blue, and the cowbell, and Hawaiian War Chant, and Temptation, and the shortened version of Temptation we sing to rub in the fact they have to give us the ball back now. Most of the glee club's lineup is pre-1940 for the reason above, but every half century or so one of the many new arrangements is canonized.¶ There could be a young savant sitting in the Music School right now who, in the course of a jubilant, all-maize bus ride from Columbus to Ann Arbor late next fall, will gurgitate a timeless thing that'll trick all future generations of Michigan fanbrains into releasing their jealously guarded serotonin.

There's a reason only a handful of schools have found their "Hail!", their "Ramblin' Wreck", their "Rocky Top" or their "Echoes." If you need Eminem (or the version of him you can get for $1,000) to make it cool, you're doing it this way:

the internet never forgets.

And if you're ever talking about how to market a work of art before it's even created, you are doing it exactly wrong.

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* Dear Diary in Latin is "Carus Commentarius" and I am highly tempted to change the name of the column to that.

** Chicago and Northwestern

† One claims Ann Arbor should rank with Socratic Greece and Newton's Oxford. There's another called "Michigan Men" that begins with the line "Rum pum pum pum! Rum pum pum pum! Yiddy yiddy iddy yiddy Um pum, Um, pum, Um pum um." Another you might have heard is I Want to Go Back to Michigan.

‡ Division Street is named such because it was literally the division between the city and campus, which was dry.

# Little Brown Jug was one of the most popular bar songs of the early 20th century, if you ever wondered how an oversized, half-blue/half-maroon cask that used to be white got termed as such. If some local bar wants to start a 1910s-style drink-and-sing night I am so there.

‖ You can't hypnotize yourself, for example.

§ And the Michigan Alumni Association on it.

The last was Michigan Remember, a poem from 1963 and set to music in 1993.

Comments

Glennsta

February 13th, 2015 at 9:56 PM ^

It isn't easy to add to the "rich musical heritage."  Something will have to go, if they are going to try to find time to put in new stuff.

It's weird, but sometimes, I'm in the stadium thinking, "this is the same stuff, week after week, Fanfare, Victors, opponent's song, Varsity, maybe birthday cake, with Carl saying the same damn thing week after week: can't they change it up?"  Then some weeks, there's just comfort knowing exactly what's coming next.

JeepinBen

February 13th, 2015 at 1:00 PM ^

When I was at Michigan (2005-2009) it was a Yost-only thing. I don't know how it started there, but the Band would play, band members would get a chance to solo and the crowd would dance. During the Big Chill that came to Michigan Stadium. I now definitely associate it with Michigan Sporting events... and no one from the B School had to conceptualize it.

Seth

February 13th, 2015 at 1:01 PM ^

More like classic progessives. If we ran the world in the late 1880s we would have run McKinley out on a rail a la Dave Brandon, printed "It's Happening" bollers for Teddy Roosevelt, and spent the rest of the decade shouting at people who said the forward pass won't work in the Big Ten.

Umich97

February 13th, 2015 at 12:53 PM ^

Agh....make it stop, please! The Victors is a classic and a beauty. Anything outside of that is transient in nature and rightfully so. When one has the objective of making a "new" classic, they rarely succeed, because of the contrived nature of the effort. Classics happen with time and usually somewhat by accident, because so many people loved the idea, that it stuck around.

At first, I was annoyed with the kids idea. Now, I just want it to go away, because it will inevitably be temporary regardless.



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Unsalted

February 13th, 2015 at 1:03 PM ^

I like the "Carus Commentarius" idea, you should run with it.

I also got to believe there was much singing at the Pretzel Bell (a classic Ann Arbor institution for those who are old enough to remember) back in the public singing days.

Va Azul

February 13th, 2015 at 1:53 PM ^

You'll want to use the vocative case, ala "E tu, Brute"?   If my memory can stretch back 20 years, it would be Care Commentari.

(and yes, I know my username is grammatically incorrect)

NYWolverine

February 13th, 2015 at 3:52 PM ^

I've been following MGoBlog's coverage of this fight song fiasco with all the contempt and rage of a bored blog-reader. I think maybe it's time to admit the Blog maybe jumped to conclusions, and doth protesteth too quickly?

From what I can determine, these current students NEVER intended to REPLACE the Victors as Michigan's fight song. Their initial proposal was merely to create a separate rally song for current students to take part of, which would be a cheer-song in conjunction with the Victors. 

Anyone following this story should note that the University of Michigan's Alma Mater is not the Victors, but the "Yellow and Blue"; and how many of us know the lyrics and tune to that? I think that may be more in line with the point of all this; that these students have a lot of school spirit, and think it'd be nice for everyone to learn a secondary rally song. Not an inherently bad idea, until someone covering it loses its entire premise and hurries to light torch and pitchfork.

Let's maybe cut the kids some slack?

Seth

February 13th, 2015 at 4:36 PM ^

I appreciate your reply, but I disagree that any slack should be cut here.

There is school spirit, and then there's trying to capitalize on school spirit to serve one's own ego. Nobody doubts the sincerity of Dave Brandon's fandom--we wanted him removed from any decision making because he doesn't have the capacity to separate his fandom from his ego. I've read the proposal and heard the spokesmen for this golem, and they all seem to very much have the Dave Brandon problem. Using "extremely unique" is a classic symptom.

I noted at the top of the article that they don't intend to "replace" The Victors, and also had a paragraph where I explain there is ample room for more song traditions. These complaints were never about the intentions of the project leaders; they're about the project leaders' clear blindness to the possible ramifications of their self-glorified quest.

What they're doing is trying to recreate what is essentially a very successful organism.

Humanity has spent its entire history in worship of the wonder we sense in the existence of chordata. Imagine then if an American company were to announce its intentions to direct a collaborative effort between the entertainment and agricultural industries to create a new type of perfect sentient animal called Hyumins, and look: we already have the logo drawn up and a video crew shooting us as speak to collaborators. Sure, you might say, this creature could turn out to be loveable. Sure, you might say, this is one of our nation's companies showing that spirit of innovation that drives us.

But given its creators serioulsy have no concept of how life is formed, nor apparently enough appreciation for the sentient life already in existence, it's perfectly rationial to tell these people to get the hell out of the animal-making business. And it's perfectly understadable, despite their protestrations otherwise, if folks are worried that the intent is for Hyumins to replace humans.

The one good thing that could come of this is it gives us a chance to rationalize why we love the lifeforms that we do. That's what my column was about: the golden rarity of a truly great piece of art that captures the popular spirit on its timeless merits.

 

NYWolverine

February 13th, 2015 at 5:22 PM ^

I visit the Blog because you guys combine super-fandom with a dose of intellectual and statistical analyses in a way that is both unique and definitively "Michigan". I'm a big big fan of your writing style, and Brian's, and of Ace, et al. You do a great job. Even in your response, it's clear that you're considering all things Michigan on a level that exceeds scientific analysis; you're cutting to the philosphical truth of the matter. Bravo, truly.

I trust that you guys are there with "boots on the ground" to use the over-used expression, and that you're closer to the story than I am. If you say these kids are truly egomaniacal Brandon proteges, and not possibly run-of-the-mill up-and-coming superfans trying to find their way - albeit in a less than structured manner - then I believe you.

Devolution into personal attacks is what got Brandon axed, after a series of seemingly well-meaning fans wrote him a series of seemingly well-meaning emails. My point is simply that. Care must be taken in the response.

Seth

February 13th, 2015 at 5:39 PM ^

That's totally fair. I hope what I've done is attack purely the idea, not the people, but in this case the two can blur because the idea is that the type of person who cares more about marketing a thing than the quality of the thing shouldn't be involved in the making of the thing. It's tough to make this argument without describing the type of person, so I tried to do it by simply listing their actions.

Blue in Denver

February 13th, 2015 at 4:30 PM ^

Great job Seth.  Typically well-written and a create subject choice.

I must admit that my typical reaction to articles that aren't about the football team is "Why why why are you writing about something other than the football team????  I need to obsess about freshman weigh-ins and 5* recruits we won't get and a hundred other things that don't actually affect my life!  DAMN YOU!!!!"

I really enjoyed this article.  Thanks.

Craig

February 13th, 2015 at 4:31 PM ^

If you ever run across it (I found it once in the sheet music section of Encore) there is a thick, blue, printed "Michigan Songbook" that has all the classics in it (including those you didn't even know existed! ) Some of them are melancholy, longing for lost "college days" while the vast majority of them are funny drinking songs, such as Bum Army which fight for  “For all the boze we ever see” *

Also, most of the Songbook came from operas that were put on in the early 20th century to raise money to build the Michigan Union. What is really amazing is that these operas were put on at a regular basis (every year maybe?) and were completely written by Michigan students and faculty. I can't imagine the amount of work it would take to write an opera (well, it sounded like they were closer to musicals than operas) but I have a feeling that it would be difficult to put on an original, student written production today.

Anyway, what I'm trying to say is this: first this kid needs to write an opera, it has to be wildly successful, and then we can start talking about incorporating new Michigan songs.

Lastly, everyone should go check out the Glee Club’s concert later this spring, where you can hear all these classic, songs of Michigan, live. You might even learn all the lyrics to The Victors in the process.

Most of the Songbook’s lyrics:
  https://ummgc.org/about/lyrics

 

*I’ll give someone $10 if they can get everyone at an Ann Arbor watering hole singing Bum Army! (Cottage Inn on Thursdays excluded)

socrstopr

February 13th, 2015 at 7:24 PM ^

Great post Seth. I enjoyed the slightly musical chanting of "It's great to be a Michigan Wolverine" when I was a student, but I have no clue on its origins or if it lived on through the last 5 years.

ColsBlue

February 13th, 2015 at 8:42 PM ^

I hate to compare Michigan to anything done in Ohio because, obviously. But, is there any room to incorporate songs from the current songbook into the game day experience? I agree, that any addition should be organic and authentic. So, what about making 'Varsity' or 'Yellow and Blue' better known and more commonly used? Specifically, why not have the team sing 'Yellow and Blue' after every home game? New tradition? Yes, if that's really a thing, but Michigan should be around for a while and it may settle in nicely after 10-15 years.

DY

February 14th, 2015 at 8:58 AM ^

That sounds a lot like Notre Dame singing their alma mater in front of their student section. Plus, the team already sings The Victors in the locker room after wins.

ColsBlue

February 14th, 2015 at 12:15 PM ^

OSU sings their alma mater at the end of every home game. I think the do it on the road as well. A bit of authentic tradition amongst an ocean of sponsored bits and advertisements. If you haven't been, that stadium is consumerism at it's best. Has a real NFL/Vegas feel to it.

treetown

February 13th, 2015 at 8:47 PM ^

Thank you for bringing up the long history of popular university songs. It is important that it shows that a song lasts because it is catchy, can be sung and just fits. Efforts to create "a hit" past, present and future are doomed to failure. If it were just that simple, we'd have an endless stream of musical hits.

One other point, I understand that you used Bill Watterson and Matt Groening to make a point. Certainly Mr. Groening through The Simpsons has not hesitated to make a buck (Bart endorses Butterfingers and world wide there is a plethora of Simpsons stuff) but Bill Watterson is actually very famous within the cartooning world for NOT allowing any sort of tie in product with his Calvin and Hobbes character except for a very few and rare exceptions and refusing commercial commision work.

So none of those stickers or T-shirts with Calvin peeing on something are legitimate. All are bootleg.

His editor Lee Salem, begged him for years to allow Universal Press syndicate to license the characters and make a killing in much the same way as the Peanuts characters were for Charles Schulz but Watterson always refused leaving as Salem described it "editors and reps weeping" thinking of the millions of dollars lost.

http://ignatz.brinkster.net/csaleminterview.html

If you are ever in that town in that state south of us and are waiting to go to the game, consider visiting the cartoon museum there. It is arguably the best (yes, I admit that typing that anything there is the best is difficult but it is an undeniable truth) cartoon museum in the USA today - http://cartoons.osu.edu/

It houses huge collections of originals from Watterson, and greats from the past Milton Caniff (Terry and the Pirates, Steve Canyon) and every 3 years hosts a cartoon festivals where contemporary greats from Sergio Aragones (Mad), Art Spiegelman (New Yorker, Maus), David Silverman (animation director from the Simpsons), Pat Oliphant, Chris Ware, etc. have all spoken there and it is open to the public.

Hill Street Blue

February 13th, 2015 at 9:19 PM ^

The group behind this has a whole plan laid out for a musical work, video, documentary, the works.  It is clearly a business proposition, a publicity stunt for the masterminds, and general resume builder for the principals involved.  

The group has been making the rounds on campus enlisting other organizations and University resources to help with the effort.  IF this group were to receive any University funding, the rights to all this intellectual property should be controlled by The Regents of the Unviersity of Michigan.  If the school pays for it, or it's resources are used in the creation of it, the school should also own the rights.  This is no different than a research lab on campus who's patents and discoveries are owned by the University.

Should the Regents assert their rights in this, it would probably put an end to it.

M-Dog

February 14th, 2015 at 3:31 AM ^

"And if you're ever talking about how to market a work of art before it's even created, you are doing it exactly wrong."

This is the key point of why this particular exercise is a fiasco.  These are people desperate to make a statement     . . . who don't have anything to say.
 
They are desperate to aggrandize themselves, so now they're just in search of a way to do it.
 
"I feel so insignificant.  What can we do that's cool that will get us noticed?"  
 
"Hey, I know, let's make up a song that will compete with, er, compliment, The Victors.  We'll be famous and immortal just like Louis Elbel."
 
"Cool.  What's the song?"
 
"I don't know, I don't know anything about writing songs.  Let's just raise some money and hire some people to write it.  It doesn't matter what it is, as long as it's catchy and get's us noticed."
 
"Great.  If that doesn't work, we can make some kind of epic painting, or maybe a movie."
 
"Awesome.  We'll be famous by Senior year."  
 
"Ricks or Skeeps?" 

 

Don

February 14th, 2015 at 12:32 PM ^

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ruthmahner

February 14th, 2015 at 12:49 PM ^

This is my favorite MGoBlog article ever (until another favorite comes along and supplants it).  I think it might even top "Memories Of Buttter" - - maybe.  But now that I've started laughing about MOB again, I'm not so sure.

I grew up in Portland, Oregon, and "The Victors" was my high school fight song.  It was the soundtrack of my life for four years, and as a band member, I probably played it 1000 times.  Then I went to college and majored in music composition (!), and I can say that no one ever composes a classic just by planning to.  I was fond of saying at the time that even Beethoven couldn't make a decent living writing music.  Anyone who thinks it happens without a lightning bolt somewhere (along with a generous dose of genius) is kidding himself.

Long live "The Victors"!