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Brian

FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T PAID ATTENTION IN A YEAR OR TWO

If you're just joining us after the World Cup, hoo boy. The US has alternated impressive friendly victories over world powers with dismal performances against the likes of Jamaica and Guatemala in competitive matchups. The US had its worst-ever Gold Cup, limping through the group stage and getting bashed out of the competition by the Reggae Boys in the semi, then losing in the third-place match. Since then the USA has careened wildly from one thing to another; they're now in slight danger of missing out on the World Cup after a first-ever loss to the aforementioned Guatemalans.

Even Aussies writing for the Guardian have noticed:

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Also everyone else at the Guardian:

Jurgen Klinsmann is …

… an average coach whose motivational abilities can’t disguise his tactical shortcomings. JW

… stretched too thin. The technical director of US soccer keeps interfering with the head coach in trying out new personnel to bring through, with a perpetual eye on a distant event horizon. The coach is unable to settle on a side with all this going on, and should maybe take that up with the technical director, but the technical director … etc etc. GP

… still unsure of his best team and tactics and surely ripe for replacement if the Copa is a catastrophe. TD

… relying on new blood. Pulisic, Brooks, Nagbe and Wood have excited in recent matches. Will they finally fulfill Klinsmann’s promise of proactive soccer? DM

… always a motivator, never a tactician. Klinsmann’s Achilles heel is that he doesn’t have a plan B. LME

For Michigan fans the parallels to Brady Hoke are many. Good recruiter; tactically deficient, in over his head, tends to clap a lot.

Some good things have occurred. Klinsmann was ahead of the curve on both Jordan Morris and Bobby Wood, and did call up Darlington Nagbe the instant he was eligible. (Starting him seems to be a bridge too far at the moment.) Along with the aforementioned three, the emergence of Deandre Yedlin as a legit EPL right back and John Brooks's continued development give the USA a player pool that is at least on par with the best they've ever had—even without Jozy Altidore, who will miss the tournament with another hamstring injury.

Meanwhile, there appears to be a light at the end of a long dark tactical tunnel. But first…

A BRIEF RANT ABOUT AVAILABLE TALENT

If any eurosnob you come across attempts to defend Klinsmann by trashing the USA's current talent level, please stab them. The USA got out of a World Cup group in 2010 with a striker corps of Altidore, Robbie Findlay, Edson Bubble, and Herculez Gomez. Fringe EPL defender Jay DeMerit, Belgian-league star Oguchi Onyewu, and either Jonathan Bornstein or an out-of-position Carlos Bocanegra were most of the defense. Ricardo Clark and Maurice Edu split time in the midfield; neither of those guys ever made it in a top league. (Edu did have a good run at Rangers.)

This USA team figures to feature:

  • More or less the same goalies, Bradley, and Dempsey
  • Two regular Bundesliga starters (Johnson, Brooks) and a guy just signed by Hamburg after scoring 17 in the German second flight(Wood)
  • Two regular EPL starters (Cameron, Yedlin)
  • A regular for Nantes (Bedoya)
  • A former Schalke captain (Jones)
  • aaaand Gyasi Zardes

Off the bench they'll bring Christian Pulisic and Darlington Nagbe instead of one the aforementioned strikers and Edu/Clark. Maybe the talent isn't better, but for it not to be the dropoff from Landon Donovan to Not Landon Donovan would have to be stunning.

Anyone who tries to tell you the USA doesn't have the talent to get out of this group or not get massively outshot at the Gold Cup last summer is the kind of soccer hipster who should be deported.

AT LONG LAST, A PLAN

The USMNT's long-standing lack of commitment to any approach, lineup, or even center-back pairing finally appeared to resolve itself into a formation and even a starting 11 over the past few friendlies. It looks like the US is set to deploy a 4-3-3 close to this:

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This more or less makes sense. Without Altidore the US does not have a traditional burly center forward. They do have a couple of fast buggers and one ornery Texan with a nose for goal and sweet moves. The 4-3-3 accommodates these gents.

A lot of commenters hate Dempsey as a "lone forward" up top, including MLSsoccer.com's Matt Doyle. His desired formation inserts Wood up top and has Dempsey as a highly nominal right winger.* Doyle is an excellent analyst who I agree with most of the time, but not here. While Dempsey is without question the USA's most skilled and dangerous attacker, he's never been an industrious player. Now that he's into his 30s, expecting him to cover on defense is foolhardy. Putting him (again, nominally) up top allows him to marshal his energy reserves and allows a much more spry player to provide cover when the game demands it. Zardes, for all his flaws, runs his ass off to support on D.

Dempsey's best as a striker when the US is out of possession. When the US gets the ball his natural tendency to drop deep provides center backs with a dilemma: allow Dempsey time and space to turn in or near the final third, or challenge him and hope the space you're leaving doesn't bite your ass. Bolivia chose the latter and gave up chance after chance, including the opening goal:

In fancy talk this is Dempsey operating as a "false nine." (Fancy people will refer to the lead striker as the 9.) Dempsey facilitated several dangerous opportunities by playing like this; in addition to the goal you  can catch him playing Wood in at around 1:30 on US Soccer's highlights of the game.

Dempsey is well suited to this kind of play. He's crafty, he's skilled with the ball at his feet, opponents are generally wary about getting too close because he has the ability to smoke 'em. This makes sense. Maybe. Probably.

We don't know it makes sense because Klinsmann has spent every friendly he's had on something that is not this. Whether the US can sustain this in a competitive match against a good opponent is unknown. Whether Klinsmann will even stick with this setup is unknown. He has rumbled about going with Beckerman when opponents deploy an attacking midfielder, ominously.

But still, I'll take something that looks like it makes sense, and might remain the same for a few danged games consecutively.

*[You may have heard me describe a 4-3 under in football as a defense halfway between the 3-4 and the under's 4-3 predecessor, the 4-3 even. Positional designations in soccer are far less rigid but the same principle applies here: a 4-3-3 often turns into a system that is a hybrid between one- and two-striker systems. If Dempsey is deployed on the "right wing" he is going to function like a slightly right-biased underneath striker.]

Comments

Trader Jack

June 2nd, 2016 at 2:28 PM ^

Been saying for a while now that what we're really missing (if indeed Jurgen is willing to play Bradley as a 6) is a solid LB that would allow us to move Johnson into the midfield.



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grand river fi…

June 2nd, 2016 at 2:56 PM ^

I'm very interested to see how Colombia approaches the game vs the USA.  They can get extremely physical (see last years Brazil- Colombia where they got super physical with Neymar and got him off his game) and counter through James-Cuadrado-Bacca, or play a lovely possession game. I've seen the USA play defensive and counter plenty, but I haven't seen them react to a violent physical game. Should be fun.

Roland Deschain

June 2nd, 2016 at 5:41 PM ^

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grand river fi…

June 2nd, 2016 at 2:39 PM ^

while the USA certainly has the talent to get out of the group, it certainly wouldn't be a shock to see them finish bottom after three 0-1s either.  Colombia could be very up and down, Costa Rica is familiar and a tough game, and Paraguay could be frustrating.

The Conmebol world cup qualifiers are very competitive so the South American teams have an experience advantage.

Hopefully this tournament looks a lot like last years tournament in Chile, tons of physical play, lots of retaliatory fouls and a lot of dirty/cynical play.  I'd be very interested to hear your opinion on how the USA would handle a game like last years Chile/Uruguay or Brazil/Peru games that were on the verge of turning into open brawls.

Keep an eye on Marlos Moreno for Colombia, only 20 but has been playing exceptionally well for Atletico Nacional (in the copa lib semis).

IBlockM

June 2nd, 2016 at 2:49 PM ^

For Michigan fans the parallels to Brady Hoke are many. Good recruiter; tactically deficient, in over his head, tends to clap a lot.

Say what? Klinsmann has a coaching record of 88-31-37, finished 3rd in the 2006 World Cup and won the Gold Cup in 2013. He also advanced out of the group of death at the last World Cup, losing in OT against a Belgian team that was ranked in the top 10. The only US coach with a better resume is Bruce Arena (for his 2002 WC quarter-finals run).

mgobaran

June 2nd, 2016 at 2:59 PM ^

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I Believe that we are weaker at the goalie position then we have been in a long long time and am very nervous about it. 

#TeamHorvath #TeamHoward #AnythingButGuzanReally

IvyLeague

June 2nd, 2016 at 3:00 PM ^

But I think Klinsmann has done a great job so far. He finally has made US soccer exciting to follow with his ability to recruit. Without Klinsmann the team doesn't have Fabian Johnson, John Brooks, Jermain Jones and a bunch of others. Folks have been complaining about his line-up tinkering the past couple years but that's the best way to figure out who the top players really are.

It's clear he's building the team towards the 2018 World Cup and for the first time I think US could seriously challenge making the semi-finals with the talent he's accrued and developed. Imagine how good Yeldin, Pulisic, Nagbe, Zardes, Wood, Altidore and Brooks will be in 2 years? All are under 25 except Nagbe and Altidore (both 26) with Pulisic being 17 right now. Fabian Johnson (28) is the team's best player and Bedoya is looking better and better. I've never really been a fan of Bradley because he's a total liability on defense but he'll still be in his prime next World Cup.

Hopefully, Copa America will be the first glimpse of what's to come and will calm the masses. 

santosbfree

June 2nd, 2016 at 3:50 PM ^

This is not particularly good commentary. Mentioning Jordan Morris as a positive when he didn't make the Gold Cup team? Those who want to talk USA soccer should probably just read "Yanks Abroad" (http://www.yanks-abroad.com/). Also, this is a University of Michigan sports blog. Even the lamentable Jim Harbaugh gif tourney and Draftageddon posts were more relevant than this.

Mr. Yost

June 2nd, 2016 at 6:35 PM ^

If you're not going to be in the world cup, you don't need to play another minute for the USMNT.

You don't need to be on the roster. I'm sorry.

It's time to build an identity and have some resemblance of a TEAM.

Truthfully, I thought the Gold Cup should've been the last hurrah for the old guys and this should be the debut for the young players we'll see in 2 years.

But Beckerman...goodbye, Zusi...thank you, so long, Wondolowski...peace out, homie. Castillo? All the best.

I'd start there.

Dempsey, IMO, gets the Wambach treatment. Never starts...comes in as a 2nd half sub for a spark. After the 2018 World Cup? Firm handshake.

Jermaine Jones makes the team, IMO...he's got enough speed to play Beckerman's role if/when he loses a step. Keep Jones, but he never plays more than a half - so Kitchen and/or Danny Williams need to develop NOW. But you're going to need Jermaine's toughness and leadership.

SO...that's 4 definite spots from this current roster (1 D,  1DMF, 1 MF,  1 FW). Fill those 4 spots with YOUNG talent now and let them grow with the core.

Then you're still going to have a number of guys who have spots not but have to play their way onto the team.

Mr. Yost

June 2nd, 2016 at 6:44 PM ^

Who would you fill those 4 spots with? Some familiar names to consider...

D - Brek Shea/Greg Garza/Omar Gonzalez

DMF - Danny Williams/Alfredo Morales

MF - Mix Diskerud/Wil Trapp/Joe Corona

F - Julian Green/Jozy Altidore/Ethan Finley/Jordan Morris/Aron Johannsson

Needs

June 3rd, 2016 at 3:16 PM ^

Almost none of those. Most of the guys that we've seen (save Morris and Green) have hit developmental peaks that are subpar at the international level.

Mix has been flat bad in MLS. Gonzo seems to be fifth choice right now and Miazga will hopefully knock him further down. See if Jozy can go 4 months without doing his hammy before trusting him. We've got loads better options than Shea on the wing. Let's see Green get actual first team minutes as a professional.

Id be thinking Miazga (if he gets a loan, don't see him getting much time at Chelsea the ext couple years), Gil, Hyndman, and Kiesewetter are at the head of the line but it's really about who develops. Big issue, as always, is lack of outside backs.

grand river fi…

June 2nd, 2016 at 10:17 PM ^

this is silly.  A world cup only comes around every four years, and every player involved has a job as a professional member of another team.  If you look at the list of major tournament winners, its not like you see a lot of slow team buidling from national associations. You see a bunch of talent playing well at the same moment. The players hardly play with their national teams, so preperation and tacitcs are often trumped by pure talent. International soccer is about getting a bunch of talented players to click in the 3 or for weeks between the end of their club seasons and riding some luck. Success in qualifiers and friendlies is a horrible predictor of upcoming tournaments.

France didn't qualify for the 1994 world cup, and played awfully in the '96 euro, they end up winning the World Cup in 98 and following it up with a Euro two years later. Going into 2002 Brazil was a disaster and barely qualified, they win the tournament. Greece won the Euro2004 by just being defensive, man marking and getting some luck. Italy and France were both a complete mess (match fixing scandals, internal disputes) leading into the 2002 world cup and both make the final. Spain was a perenial dissapointment riven by regional cliques who actually had a song "lets just get past the 1/4 finals" untill they got it together and won the euro and went on a run.  Germany this past world cup did have a string of second place finishes and did have a fair ammount of stability for years, and is a bit of an exception. If you look at the Copa America results its similar, host nations, Brazil or Argentina normally win.

National teams are made up of players developed by other teams.  The teams that win / make it deep in tournaments are normally filled with exceptionally talented complimentary players. Motivation and team building are great, but they will normally just get you bounced out shortly after the group stage.

The USMNT should try to ride their luck and win the Copa, like every other tournament.  The Greek team from 2004 should be an example.  Keep it tight, finish your chances, ride your luck. It's a tournament, anything can happen. Don't waste opportunities to win something in an attempt to build a "TEAM" for a tournament 2 years away.