CBS Reporting Trey Burke To NBA [Disputed]

Submitted by Brian on April 4th, 2012 at 3:03 PM

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It's been a long time, Henri, the otter of ennui. I hate you.

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Trey Burke is leaving Michigan after just one season.

The Wolverines point guard, according to sources, is expected to forgo his remaining three years of eligibility and declare for the NBA.

Article also says Michigan's bringing Spike Albrecht in Thursday. You have permission to panic.

UPDATE: Nick Baumgardner pinged Burke's dad and got this in a text:

Benji Burke tells AnnArbor.com that "Trey has not declared"

I'll be in the bomb shelter.

UPDATE II: Burke's father also has a twitter account:

Trey Burke has not declared for the NBA draft. He is still enrolled at the University of Michigan.

UPDATE III: I have an unconfirmed email from a guy who isn't established with me stating that Burke already has his evaluation, that it's 20-35, and is gone. He's got enough of an online presence that I can confirm he's an alum with a plausible route to that information, but again: unconfirmed, not established. Given the way the wind is blowing I don't doubt it.

Comments

AMazinBlue

April 4th, 2012 at 5:58 PM ^

leaving early when you can develop a rep and more mad skills in college is better than risking not making an NBA tea.  I understand the lure of big money (big to us, anyway) instead of going to school and getting an education.  The big problem is, the odds and likelihood is that a 5-10 guard that hasn't developed an incredible shooting touch or mad guard skills is likely to be a D-League guy or not get a contract at all and disappear in a year or two.

He won't be able to go back to college b/c he loses eligibility and probably won't have the money or the desire to get a degree.  Face it most of these kids want to use college to get to the pros.  I wish him the best if this is want he wants to do, but my guess is at 5-10 he doesn't make it and and best ends up in Europe and washes out of the game within three years.  And without an education he has very little hope of making it.

If "you" have a great skill, develop it the best you can and put yourself in the best position to get the biggest contract possible.  One year on a college team that couldn't get out of the 1st round of the tournament and being 5-10 isn't a very good resume' to go pro.

Jimmyisgod

April 4th, 2012 at 6:05 PM ^

Peoplea are unbelievable, Trey Burke doesn't deserve all of this bad mouthing.  He made a decision based on what he thought was best for him, he has a whole host of knowledgeable people around him and he got advice from neutral 3rd parties and the draft board.

He doesn't deserve to be bashed and called stupid over and over by the Michigan fan base who aren't really thinking of Trey at all they are just thinking of the team they root for.  Darius Morris was right, this is a fickle bunch of fans. 

Best of luck Trey, I hope the decision you made is the right one and I hope you become an all star and do Michigan proud.  Thank you for a B1G Title and an incredible year.

Butterfield

April 4th, 2012 at 6:39 PM ^

Wrong.  The people calling this a stupid decision believe it would be mutually beneficial to both Trey and Michigan if he stayed and developed his skills so his entry into the draft wasn't a crapshoot.  That's doesn't make us a fickle fanbase, it makes us a very smart one. 

Compare this to 1993.  While people may have been disappointed when C-Webb left after his sophomore season, assurances he would be a top 5 pick made it a pretty easy decision to understand.  It is debatable whether Burke will even be selected....

Heisman21

April 4th, 2012 at 7:20 PM ^

You give your all for Michigan and the fans will love you. Using a school to jump start your professional career will make the true fans "fickle". Finish what you started, 'student athlete'. Thank you Stu and Zack.

Wolvie3758

April 4th, 2012 at 6:22 PM ^

and Im sure many of you will..I feel let down...Id  like to think there were people out there that WANTED to win for  Michigan..take our rebuilding process to the next level...Jordan Kovacs type kid if you will..Alas for Trey Burke it was just a means to a end..nothing more nothing less..HUGE mistake in my opinion ...theres alot more I could say but if true and hes gone all I can say is what a shame....

Wendyk5

April 4th, 2012 at 6:28 PM ^

I think you nailed the emotions that everyone's feeling. Why is basketball immune from the Michigan Man/Those Who Stay Will Be Champions sentiment? Even though Bo was behind those, I guess one would hope it stretched across all sports, and academics, as well. Michigan is so great, why wouldn't everyone want to stay as long as they can? Rheterical question, yes, but that's how I feel, and probably others as well. 

dothepose

April 4th, 2012 at 7:09 PM ^

I wouldn't be as upset if I didn't see that picture of him in an OSU shirt everytime we played OSU and him being best friends with Jared Sullinger. I guess I feel used if this is true. But I don't blame him either, Michigan was the best place for him to show off his skills.

Yinka Double Dare

April 4th, 2012 at 6:31 PM ^

20-35 seems like an awfully optimistic projection considering I haven't seen a single mock draft that has Burke in the first round.  At least Morris actually showed up on some mocks as a first rounder, even if he did eventually fall into the middle of the second round.

Yinka Double Dare

April 4th, 2012 at 6:32 PM ^

20-35 seems like an awfully optimistic projection considering I haven't seen a single mock draft that has Burke in the first round.  At least Morris actually showed up on some mocks as a first rounder, even if he did eventually fall into the middle of the second round.

bo_lives

April 4th, 2012 at 7:10 PM ^

I realize it's a small sample, but with Morris and Burke both choosing to leave based on meager to average draft prospects, can we really only expect one good year from those guys before they bolt to the NBA? It wouldn't be a problem if we were Kentucky or Duke, and we could just reload instead of rebuild, but we're not at that point yet. The program is certainly on the rise, so I'd say we expect to get there eventually, but how long will that take?

Heisman21

April 4th, 2012 at 7:11 PM ^

We gotta positive u guys. Look at it this way; this will spark our interest in the NBDL and whatever team Mr. Burke starts his career out with. I wish him the best but I'm selfish too. Go Blue

FreddieMercuryHayes

April 4th, 2012 at 7:15 PM ^

So the silver lining is that without a guy to distribute to our the other peeps, perhaps we won't see GRIII or McGary leave cause we'll be crappy. Maybe the 13-14 season will be our year?

Medic

April 4th, 2012 at 8:35 PM ^

Seriously, he is not ready and I doubt will develop much more in the NBA. He is absolutely not going in the first round, and will be lucky to see the d-league. Morris needed another year too.

Whoever is giving him these grades is a fucking fool.

Sacrificing long term financial wealth for short term gain imo.

mGrowOld

April 4th, 2012 at 9:05 PM ^

See how those who think Trey's making a good decision here are basing on his NBA draft evaluation of 20-35 I think a bet is in order.  Here's what I propose:

Burke selected from 1-19 - I pay $1,000

Burke selected from 20-24 - I pay $500

Burke selected from 25-30 - I pay $100

So if you think Burke is getting solid advice you cannot lose!  But in that miniscule chance that maybe...just maybe he's not here's what I would get if he is not:

Burke selected from 31-35 - I get $100 

Burke selected from 36-40 - I get $500

Burke selected 41 or higher I get $1,000

Any takers?

 

Yeoman

April 5th, 2012 at 3:30 PM ^

If it was, I think you've mistaken an honest question for a rhetorical one. I honestly don't know how common it is for players coming out after their freshman year to go undrafted--I think it's rare, but I wanted to know.

If it's true, as some people have stated here, that 60 or so players get grades of 20-35 (or better), I think we'd some effects of that, with players getting lured into declaring and then being dropped out of the draft. It seemed like one way to test the proposition, since we don't have any direct statistics on the grades as far as I know. If there haven't been any freshman declaring after they get their grades and then going completely undrafted, I'm guessing it's unlikely here as well.

As far as your "sporting proposition" goes it doesn't really seem a fair test of my claim. It means assuming (1) that the answer to my question is "none", or close to it, which I don't know; and, worse, (2) that some unconfirmed e-mail Brian received from someone he has no history with or connection to is an accurate description of the grade and that the evaluation is really from the advisory panel and not some agent. And if those things are true I still lose if the grade is accurate and he comes in 30-35. Silly bet if you ask me.

TheGhostofYost

April 4th, 2012 at 10:36 PM ^

I'm not saying this is all Belein's fault, but you do have to be alarmed when so many people are leaving the program.  It's been a few weeks since the season ended, and we are down four players.  I personally think that reflects a bigger problem.

jdon

April 4th, 2012 at 11:16 PM ^

We sound like sour grapes cry babies.

If the kid wants to leave, wish him well and call it a day.

We have three top 100 recruits coming in, and a great coach, I am sure we can work this out to our advantage.

AmaizeingBlue

April 5th, 2012 at 2:18 AM ^

Yep, that actually is his dorm room too (not a creeper, just rewatched one of his journey to Ann Arbor vids on youtube to see if his dorm room was the same).  He could just be packing up to head home for Easter, but that seems like a lot of packing to go home for a couple days. :(

Don

April 5th, 2012 at 3:02 AM ^

The possibility of making lots of money right now is the biggest one, but maybe it's not that simple—he also might dislike being in school, or he might dislike playing for Beilein. Going to college isn't everybody's cup of tea.

UMgradMSUdad

April 5th, 2012 at 3:38 AM ^

Mgrowold tried an analogy, so I'll try one too (but mine has a '68 camaro and chicks in it).

When my brother was a freshman in college, he bought a '68 camaro RS convertible and a few weeks later made plans to drive to Florida with friends, another guy and two girls over a break. He desperately wanted a 4-speed instead of the 3-speed transmission the car came with, so he bought another transmission and changed it out the day before he left.  My father told him not to do it...To wait. and if he had to have the 4-speed for the trip, put it in the car, but wait for another time to drive to Florida when he had an opportunity to make sure everything was going all right.  Welll the other guy backed out, so my brother was left with the decision to head to Florida right then with two chicks in his 4-speed ragtop camaro, or wait, perhaps another year.  Like most teenage boys, he left (maybe like Don's scenario, he was getting away from "the coach," too).

 Needless to say, somewhere in Georgia, the transmission got stuck in second gear.  By the time he got to Florida, he could only drive in reverse.  He ended up having to sell the car in northern Florida for far less than it was worth.  The two girls took a bus back to Michigan.  He ended up in south Florida for several months.  He had a blast with numerous other girls, spent several months in Florida, of course flunked out of college.  He did have his dream trip to Florida (of sorts), but it only lasted a few months and then it was just fond memories (and a few not so fond).  So, Trey, stay until next year and work on that transmission until you get it humming.  Then take your dream trip to the NBA.  Oh what the hell do I know.  Maybe just leave now and have a blast while you can.

uminks

April 5th, 2012 at 3:37 AM ^

Best of luck to him if he can get drafted. If not, hopefully a team will pick him up and  he will develop.

It's tough to keep kids in school, especially with the potential for a well paying job. Though, if he would stay and does well next season, he may be a first rounder next year. I wonder if he realizes how much money he may be losing?

chitownblue2

April 5th, 2012 at 9:29 AM ^

I'm not saying "he should have gone" because the only thing that will determine that is how he fares.

But the idea that he's underdeveloped is a bit much, in my opinion. He was, arguably, the most productive PG in the nation from a statistical standpoint, and was definitely the most productive of guys that might be in this draft. This draft is EXTREMELY thin in Point Guards. I realize Austin Rivers is a pro SG, but he played point at Duke, so here is Burke compared to his cohort in this class, using tempo-free stats to even out playing time:

Trey Burke: 105.3 ORtg, 53.8% TS%, 28.7 Arate, 18.6 TOrate, 30.6 FTrate

Austin Rivers: 104.7 ORtg, 53.8% TS%, 13.0 Arate, 17 TOrate, 45.8 FTrate (Burke was as good a shooter, a much better facilitator, equivalent risky with the ball, not as good at getting to the line)

Tony Wroten: 95.5 ORtg, 48.8% TS%, 24.5 Arate, 21.7 TOrate, 59.1% FTrate (Burke is superior at everything other than getting to the line)

Marquis Teague: 99.4 ORtg. 49.1% TS%, 25.5 Arate, 23.7 TOrate, 33.8 FT rate (Burke is superior in everything other that getting to the line, where he is nearly equal)

Tyshawn Taylor: 104.2 ORtg, 56.9% TS%, 29.7 Arate, 22.6 TOrate, 42 FTrate (Taylor grades out as slightly better in everything other than turnovers, but his usage was sufficiently smaller for Burke to provide more value - hence the higher ORtg)

From a standpoint of PRODUCTION, Burke is arguably the best PG in the draft.