CBS Reporting Trey Burke To NBA [Disputed]

Submitted by Brian on April 4th, 2012 at 3:03 PM

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It's been a long time, Henri, the otter of ennui. I hate you.

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Trey Burke is leaving Michigan after just one season.

The Wolverines point guard, according to sources, is expected to forgo his remaining three years of eligibility and declare for the NBA.

Article also says Michigan's bringing Spike Albrecht in Thursday. You have permission to panic.

UPDATE: Nick Baumgardner pinged Burke's dad and got this in a text:

Benji Burke tells AnnArbor.com that "Trey has not declared"

I'll be in the bomb shelter.

UPDATE II: Burke's father also has a twitter account:

Trey Burke has not declared for the NBA draft. He is still enrolled at the University of Michigan.

UPDATE III: I have an unconfirmed email from a guy who isn't established with me stating that Burke already has his evaluation, that it's 20-35, and is gone. He's got enough of an online presence that I can confirm he's an alum with a plausible route to that information, but again: unconfirmed, not established. Given the way the wind is blowing I don't doubt it.

Comments

MI Expat NY

April 4th, 2012 at 6:39 PM ^

If you're going to pick and choose statistics to prove greater production, at least be accurate.  Rivers (who is a SG) shot 3s better, Wroten had a better FG% and Teague had better Assist/TO numbers.  

All four had similar productivity, and none of them are likely to be lottery picks.  

My point isn't that the NBA ignores potential, but rather that productivity matters.  With four guys who have all shown similar productivity, it's not shocking that the three with "better" NBA bodies are rated slightly higher.  I think Trey Burke could make up the difference if he was an All-American caliber player next season.

chitownblue2

April 5th, 2012 at 9:18 AM ^

I just want to be clear we're talking facts, here:

Burke: 50.2% eFG%, 1.6:1 A/To ratio, 3.5 reb, 74.4% FT

Wroten: 45.3% eFG%, 1:1 A/To ratio, 5 reb, 58.3% FT

Teague: 44.9% eFG%, 1.7 A/To ratio, 2.5 reb, 71.4% FT

Rivers: 50.5% eFG%, 0.9:1 A/To ratio, 3.4 reb, 65.8% FT

If your argument is anything other than "Burke was the most productive of the group", you're wrong. One guy shot as well, but didn't facilitate the offense as well, and turned the ball over more.

Another rebounded better, but did literally everything worse.

Another facilitated/protected the ball as well, but did literally everything else worse.

umchicago

April 4th, 2012 at 7:42 PM ^

assuming all else is constant, his draft stock should improve next year based soley on the fact that several players didn't declare last year due to the potential nba lockout.  those #s alone could easily take him from the 1st round to the 2nd round and 2nd round contracts are not guaranteed.

Butterfield

April 4th, 2012 at 6:54 PM ^

Nice and predictable use of the "I played collegiate sports so that by definition makes me superior to everyone else" card.  If Burke is talented enough, the opportunity would have been there next year, in 2014, or after his would-be senior season of 2015.  Trey's decision to opt out when he is, at best, a 2nd round pick without any guaranteed contract, is shortsighted and will hurt his long term earnings potential.  Then again, most people on this blog probably aren't economics majors so they have no idea what it is like to evaluate different earnings scenarios. 

WMUgoblue

April 4th, 2012 at 3:59 PM ^

Let him makes his decisions, it's his life. I think it's wrong, you think it's wrong, most people think it's wrong, but that doesn't make it our decision. Wish him luck and move on, this does set the program back but don't let one player define the entire program, this is still Michigan fergodsakes.

Mhpangr

April 4th, 2012 at 4:04 PM ^

Not going to lie to all of you if I said I wasn't in the fetal position at work right now.  We have NO PG for next year if he leaves.  None.  Nada.  Zero.  Zilch.

Don't care how much talent you have elsewhere... don't have the talent at the position with the most touches and who gets those other people the ball... expectations just crash landed in my opinion for next year.

At least when DMo went to the NBA we had Trey coming in with some good pub coming in.  I'm afraid that if we have another lower than expectations season it will significantly hurt our recruiting and push us into mediocrity for the forseeable future...

I hope I'm wrong.

Commence thumb in mouth holding blanket.

 

umchicago

April 4th, 2012 at 4:45 PM ^

How does this hurt recruiting?  I don't get this logic.  Let's see, Beilein has coached-up two 3.5* point guards who ended up turning pro as underclassmen.  Has any other coach/program done this?

If anything, it states that Beilein does in fact improve players' games beyond their initial evaluations.  Morris and Burke to NBA and  guys like Novak/Douglass improving beyond all expectations.

Steenie

April 4th, 2012 at 4:08 PM ^

I feel like this undoes so much of the good thats happened to this program lately....Beilein's got a retention problem--I dont know what it is but you cant be losing players like this.

Michigan J. Frog

April 4th, 2012 at 4:10 PM ^

Poor Henri, the otter of ennui. He’s just as upset over this news as you are. Not to mention his battles with chronic depression. All he needs is some love, and here you are professing your hate for him. That’s low, Brian.

UofM Die Hard …

April 4th, 2012 at 4:14 PM ^

Some people are being ridiculous here, easy on the kid. He has a chance to live his dream, more power to him.  He got us a share of the title and that is bad ass, thanks to Burke for that.

 

Though I agree with the majority in that this is not the right decision

B-Nut-GoBlue

April 4th, 2012 at 4:21 PM ^

There is no other reason why he would leave.  If he's been talking with Morris all year, or part of the year, he's probably been told that it's a good idea to leave; for whatever reasons.  The whole episode/comments of "it's amazing how fast people can turn against you", probably talking about fans et. al. shows he was ready to bolt.  Terrible decision but when you have your mind made up it's tough to reverse the decision that's in your head.

chitownblue2

April 4th, 2012 at 4:20 PM ^

If people think that the epidemic of having kids leave too early to questionable draft prospects is somehow unique to Michigan, you're being completely ignorant.

Just getting that out there.

This, in a nutshell, is why the quality of play in college basketball is awful, and mid-majors are more dangerous than ever: anyone that demonstrates an ounce of aptitude is gone before they hit 20.

turd ferguson

April 4th, 2012 at 4:29 PM ^

I agree.  I think what's happening here is basically this:

We're a football school, and having paid relatively little attention to college basketball over the past 15 years, we collectively missed the memo that college basketball isn't what it used to be (and isn't what college football is). 

HW_Blue

April 4th, 2012 at 5:10 PM ^

Your post would have been accurate a few years ago when people joked about Amaker's VHS player, but the $52 million Crisler Center renovation puts that to rest.  The facilities are now on par with the top programs in the country.

It's not because we're a football school, it's not because of Beilein.  It's because kids today (1) don't want to be coached and (2) it's about getting to the League and in today's messed up world, staying longer only hurts your chances.

MAgoBLUE

April 4th, 2012 at 4:20 PM ^

I don't get it.  He isn't blessed with the size or talent that would make him a top draft pick and he hasn't developed his game enough to be relied upon as a point guard in the NBA.  Teams are willing to teach players and be patient but you have to have the right physical tools first.  For example, the Celtics drafted Avery Bradley 19th overall two years ago and he is just now starting to catch on in the rotation.  The difference between Bradley and Burke is 3 inches of height and, to put it frankly, a pretty wide gap in athleticism.

I think Burke's best shot of sticking in the NBA would have been to play all 4 years and really learn how to play the point guard position because his talent alone can't carry him.

MAgoBLUE

April 4th, 2012 at 4:50 PM ^

He could theoretically learn the position on the bench in the NBA but I don't think there are any teams that want to invest a draft pick and a roster spot for that possibility.  More likely, he would go undrafted and find his way onto a NBDL squad, which would also afford him the opportunity to learn the position, but there aren't a lot of success stories about guys making the transition to the NBA from the D League and being able to stick there.

pdgoblue25

April 4th, 2012 at 4:28 PM ^

Who the hell bounces when it's confirmed by everyone that he won't even sniff the lottery.  We just went from elite 8 potential to NIT.

Good luck Trey.

turd ferguson

April 4th, 2012 at 4:24 PM ^

This is an enormous blow to Michigan's basketball prospects for the 2012-13 season, but let's not exaggerate the impact beyond then (assuming that he would have left after next year if not now).

We're still going to have a very young, very talented team next year.  That youth, coupled with a gaping hole at point guard, probably will keep us from being a serious Big Ten contender next season, but there's no reason to believe that the short-to-medium-term outlook doesn't remain extremely bright.

Mhpangr

April 4th, 2012 at 4:35 PM ^

I don't see how you can say this.  So say we get a PG recruit that is good enough to start and not be at a "freshman" level in 2013-2014.  You then lose the 2012-2013 season and most likely the 2013-2014 season going through his growing pains in his freshman year (assuming that the new PG trends toward the mean of "avg freshman PG" and we probably won't catch lightning in a bottle THREE times in a row like we did with Burke and DMo).  By then THJ is gone, McGary and GRIII may or may not be around, and you start at ground zero once again... 2 straight years of mediocrity can absolutely hurt your recruiting and commit you to being mediocre for the forseeable future.

I'm hoping I'm wrong, but without a PG to reload with on the roster and has NO idea of the current complicated system Beilein runs... this is trouble no matter how you look at it.

jakeace

April 4th, 2012 at 4:26 PM ^

It's not popular to say this, but I really do not wish him well at the next level. I'll go even further. I hope he fails miserably at the next level. That would make me feel good.