Board Control And So Forth

Submitted by Brian on April 5th, 2011 at 3:56 PM

something

Complaints on email and twitter have reached a critical mass, so: Something Must Be Done about the board (artist's impression @ right).

You may have noticed that the points system broke during the Great Malware Disaster and I haven't fixed it. There are multiple reasons for this: the code that did that was in a custom module I had made up and the only place it existed was on the test server. Due to some bad archiving strategies it is no longer extant. Before I set to replacing that I wanted to see if moving to the new version of Drupal was feasible, something that required checking each of the dozens of modules installed on the site to see if it had a viable Drupal 7 version.

I've been waiting for a bit and now I'm pretty sure I'm not going to make the move to 7 until next summer, so it makes sense to implement something now. However, the board has gotten very large and a number of stupid people have infested it and it's clear we've again outgrown our system.

Thus I have…

A Job

I'm looking for a developer familiar with Drupal who will work with me to produce a commenting system in the vein of Reddit or Slashdot that automatically filters poor quality comments and draws attention to high quality ones. This can be an assemblage of existing modules—though I've looked and that is not in the cards, I don't think—but will most likely be a module of its own, one that ideally will be submitted and maintained in the community at large. We'll work together to establish requirements and then establish a price for the whole thing.

I imagine this is going to take a while as we hash out what's possible and what isn't; getting it right and getting it into a maintainable state is more important than speed. My previous experience with freelancing leads me to believe a lot of low quality code gets pushed out the door very quickly. I'm looking for this to be more of a long-term relationship where person X is brought on as part-time Drupal guy, completing projects at a fairly leisurely rate as time and funding allows.

If you're interested, email me with who you are and your ideas for the project. If you do not have a track record I might be impressed enough by someone who can already show me a prototype—who's started something already—to overlook that.

In the meantime I will reach in and restore the dirty hack I dirtily hacked the first time around. Give me some time, a week or so.

Comments

Blue-Chip

April 5th, 2011 at 4:03 PM ^

While I am guilty of complaining how I miss points, don't misunderstand me. The reason for visiting MGoBlog is the top notch content that you have never failed to provide. The site is just good enough that I, and several other participants, became spoiled.

Thanks for listening, making attempts to return the points system, and spoiling us further. You rule.

go16blue

April 5th, 2011 at 4:05 PM ^

Yes!!! A comment system like reddit would be awesome, but as long as its not as stripped down. While were at it, this is a feature that has been a dream of mine for a while: some kind of messaging/alert system similar to reddit's that told you when someone replied to one of your comments. It would be super useful and help stimulate discussion.

maizeandblue21

April 5th, 2011 at 4:29 PM ^

i would definately support that or an email notification. I would think that you could make a little notification section up by your account on the main page and when ever you have one or more there will be a little red square with the number of notifications and you can click on the box to expand it and see the updates.

BlueDragon

April 5th, 2011 at 9:28 PM ^

I was thinking more along the lines of that globe icon on the upper bar of the Facebook homepage that you can click to give you a drop-down list of "Notifications".  For Mgoblog, these would probably revolve around replies, but maybe a notification when a certain number of people have viewed content you created, or when x number of up- or down-votes have been cast for your content.  

I definitely like the "Tom" button on the MGoBoard sidebar.  People should be able to track posters of their own choosing in a manner similar to the Tom button.  I don't think that "friending" each other is the word I would use to describe it, but there are definitely some posters on the site that are better writers than others.  Blocking people (and other Ultra Mgoboard functions) would also be cool if they could work in a browser-based format.  I don't have a smart phone so I tough it out in Chrome.

justingoblue

April 5th, 2011 at 10:02 PM ^

Yea I've always thought a notification would help. Private messaging would be awesome to add, but I don't know how hard that is to do or whether it would appeal to a lot of people.

I think it'd be cool to follow certain people, but I don't know how often I would use that. Off the top of my head of regular posters/diarists I can only think of 4-5 that I would take the time to follow.

I really think that having points back on will help with content (Stats don't win games? WTF?).

BlueDragon

April 5th, 2011 at 10:13 PM ^

Serious flame-wars going down all day today.  Luckily I know when to keep my mouth shut and enjoy the fun.

But yes, real negs are an absolutely essential facet of the board's ongoing efforts to self-police.  Logic and evidence are nice, but it's hard to get someone banned without sending them to Bolivian first.

I don't know about private messaging, either.  It seems like it would take a lot of time and resources for a service that can easily be provided, for free, by a half-dozen (or more) better-known chat sites.

bluebyyou

April 5th, 2011 at 4:19 PM ^

Does the filtering system have the means to remove short posts which often don't say very miuch and just cluttler up the board, often with back and forth squabbling.  It seems lately that there are tons of posts which don't add anything of substance to the discussion.

What I'd also like to see is if someone negs you, they have to post so you know their reasons for inferring you should go to Bolivia.

imafreak1

April 5th, 2011 at 4:53 PM ^

Dearest mgocommunity please repeat after me.

BRAIN COOK IS NOT MY FATHER NOR DOES HE OWE ME ANYTHING. THEREFORE IT IS ILLOGICAL TO WRITE HIM EMAILS OR OTHERWISE COMPLAIN TO HIM ABOUT MGOBOARD, OR STUPIDS NEGGING ME, OR VARIOUS THINGS THAT ARE UNIMPORTANT AND OUT OF HIS DIRECT CONTROL.

Thanks.

imafreak1

April 5th, 2011 at 8:57 PM ^

If you are sending Brain emails about interesting topics or what not then I suppose that is fine. I do not get the impression that is what has happened here. The only email Brain probably wants to see regarding the board or negging is "I will write the code for mgoboard." 

Under normal circumstances, one would directly pay a doctor for a service. I'm not sure comparing Brain to a 'bank teller' is the direction you want to go but none-the-less, a bank provides services for which money changes hands. No one here is paying Brain for anything. One might donate money but there is no pay for service. Thus, Brain does not owe you anything.

In closing, I do not get the impression that the goal of mgoblog is to generate 'the most revenue.' For this I am thankful.

justingoblue

April 5th, 2011 at 10:32 PM ^

I absolutely think he tries to generate the most revenue: it's his job. That's why the site is as good as it is, because Brian wants to draw and maintain readers. If he didn't try to do this, there would be no TomVH, no UFR's and the like. He sells ad space for a living, the better the content, the more clicks, the more ad revenue.

My point was that by telling Brian that we want negs back, we're communicating that his site would be better (and thus clicking on more ads/pages) with them. I haven't emailed him about this, but I think it's great as long as people are respectful.

MGoAero

April 5th, 2011 at 6:28 PM ^

Slightly off-topic, but site-related...  Is the Android App still in the works?  Someone affiliated with the blog sent out a call for people willing to test one in early March, and I emailed within minutes but never heard anything back.  Anyone out there lucky enough to get a prototype of the app?  Or know a timeline of when it might be ready for the population at large?  I'm very eager for it...

oneilse14

April 5th, 2011 at 7:05 PM ^

I'm the lead developer for the MGoDroid app. We're planning on releasing MGoDroid on the Marketplace sometime next week, if not sooner. Your email probably got lost in the torrential onslaught of emails we received when Brian retweeted the beta announcement. Send an email to [email protected] and I'll send you the app tonight.