Blogpoll Ballot Week 6

Submitted by Brian on October 8th, 2012 at 3:51 PM

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1 Alabama Crimson Tide --
2 Oregon Ducks --
3 South Carolina Gamecocks Arrow_up 9
4 West Virginia Mountaineers Arrow_up 1
5 Florida Gators Arrow_up 6
6 Notre Dame Fighting Irish Arrow_up 2
7 Kansas St. Wildcats Arrow_up 2
8 Oregon St. Beavers Arrow_down -4
9 Ohio St. Buckeyes Arrow_up 1
10 Florida St. Seminoles Arrow_down -4
11 Clemson Tigers Arrow_up 2
12 Georgia Bulldogs Arrow_down -5
13 LSU Tigers Arrow_down -10
14 Stanford Cardinal Arrow_up 1
15 Texas Longhorns Arrow_up 1
16 USC Trojans Arrow_up 4
17 Cincinnati Bearcats Arrow_up 6
18 Louisville Cardinals Arrow_down -4
19 Oklahoma Sooners Arrow_up 5
20 Louisiana Tech Bulldogs Arrow_up 2
21 Mississippi St. Bulldogs new
22 N.C. State Wolfpack new
23 Rutgers Scarlet Knights new
24 Iowa St. Cyclones new
25 OHIO Bobcats new
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A large shakeout, with all skepticism about South Carolina dispelled and Oregon State suffering thanks to impressive wins various other places. Some of their fall is due to week to week jitter that isn't meaningful, but Florida and South Carolina earned it, yo.

FLORIDA STATE. Propped up by the Clemson win.

BIG LSU DROP.  Auburn suxxxxxx, and they struggled with Towson. They're two weeks from icing Ralph Bolden at center. BOOM LES'D. The Washington win does have some meaning after they beat Stanford, but they're not looking vintage. They'll rebound or fall further after their matchup with South Carolina; right now their resume is not anything that demands them in the top ten.

CINCINNATI? Um… well. Undefeated? It's that with two decent wins or teams with dodgy bits all over. Oklahoma finally got a win over a real team—a real team with no wins over BCS schools.

OHIO!!! Respect.

Comments

B-Nut-GoBlue

October 8th, 2012 at 4:06 PM ^

Thought Iowa State should have replaced us in the AP Poll as well; I like what Paul Rhoads is doing over there (and I love to watch my fellow Iowans cry and complain and hate on Iowa State, especially in a year where they're better than their beloved Hawks).  Drop Florida State further and I can't argue too much (though I do admite, how much further, looking at the teams behind them, ew).  I keep seeing Mississippi State winning and always think to myself that they're on the come up before I remember to take an in depth look at what they've done, and man, talk about the notion of playing no one.

Indiana Blue

October 8th, 2012 at 4:08 PM ^

Obviously no respect at all for the B1G.  BTW - this should reflect the coaches poll and tsio should be ineligible.

Can't wait to see an unranked Michigan team win the B1G !

Go Blue!

cmd600

October 8th, 2012 at 4:30 PM ^

Fine, compare the resumes. Ohio's best win has come against a before-they-got-it-together Penn St, and in the only similar opponent to Michigan had to come from behind in the 4th Q to beat UMass. Ohio would have (at least) two losses with Michigan's schedule, and Michigan would be undefeated against Ohio's schedule.

WolvinLA2

October 8th, 2012 at 5:28 PM ^

This, so much this.  Ohio has beaten absolutely nobody, and they almost lost to half of their nobody schedule.  They fact that they needed to come back to beat UMass is all you need to know.  

NC State - awesome, they caught FSU sleeping, and did enough to win.  Fine, but they also have two losses to unranked teams - close to being ranked maybe Tennessee and really not good at all Miami.  

Rutgers - Almost the same boat as Ohio.  They beat Arkansas when everyone was beating Arkansas (with Tyler Wilson out).  Their next best win - UConn?  South Florida?  No one else anyone cares about.  

Those three teams have neither resume nor expectations.  At some point, you need to say "Do I really think this team is better than that team?"  or "Is playing with #6 ND in South Bend and barely losing really worse than beating UConn?"

oriental andrew

October 8th, 2012 at 5:48 PM ^

You're still thinking from a predictive frame of who is better than whom.  The question you should be asking is whether Michigan's 2 losses combined with its 3 wins are better than Ohio's 5 wins.  Most resume voters, though, particularly in the first half of the season, tend to overweight wins/losses compared to the team to which they won/lost, given the relative lack of data. This may be why Brian is overweighting Ohio's wins vs. Michigan's losses.

WolvinLA2

October 8th, 2012 at 6:05 PM ^

You still have to do a little extrapolation though.  Let's say we switched schedules - do you think Ohio would have beaten ND or Alabama?  No one thinks yes.  

Now compare our wins - our best win is a blowout of Purdue, away.  Their best is a last minute win, at PSU.  Even if you say PSU and Purdue are equal, our win is clearly more impressive.  Now compare common opponents - we slaughtered UMass, they needed to come from behind just to beat them by 3.  Two additional cupcake wins shouldn't boost them at all.  They only beat 1-4 Buffalo by a TD and 2-4 Marshall by 3.  That's a top-25 team?  Be honest.

U of M in TX

October 8th, 2012 at 4:23 PM ^

But you can't have ND at six.  They barely beat a terrible MSU team and potentially below average Purdue team and needed six TOs against Michigan to win by seven. The B1G is terrible and I'm not sure you should be giving that much credit to ND for those wins.

On the other hand, I'm not really sure who else should be in the Top 10.  There seems to be an elite three maybe four teams and the rest will be fighting to make up the most mediocre BCS bowl games since last year.

phork

October 8th, 2012 at 5:58 PM ^

Yah 7.8 ppg, second in the nation to only Alabama (who has played W. Kentucky,  Arkansas and Florida Atlantic).  Our offense is rough, no denying that.  But our D is legit.  3 straight games without a TD against, 3 TDs all year.  Shutting any team out of a TD in any game is hard enough.  3 weeks in a row, including you guys, is pretty darn good.

MI Expat NY

October 8th, 2012 at 4:32 PM ^

"Oklahoma finally got a win over a real team—a real team with no wins over BCS schools."

Texas Tech did beat Iowa State, no?  I could have sworn that was the reason all the cool kids were picking them to beat Oklahoma.

I'll also say, I'm glad I'm not putting up a top 25 to be ripped to shreds by the masses.  Have no idea of who is actually good in college football this year.

turtleboy

October 8th, 2012 at 5:21 PM ^

USC

Cincinatti

Louisville

Oklahoma

Louisiana Tech

...and I lol'd.

I know the B1G is down, and at the same time we all scheduled tough road games to start the year for some inexplicable reason, but right now most of the B1G has 2 losses. It doesn't seem to matter who you play, or how you play, just as long as you don't lose.

EDIT: Florida State loses to 2 loss ACC pipsqueak NCState and drops 4 spots, LSU loses at top 5 ranked Florida and drops 10 spots. Yeah, okay...

Michigan4Life

October 8th, 2012 at 5:48 PM ^

with bad losses and blowouts.  Best OCC win by B1G is MSU over Boise State who is clearly in a rebuilding mode.  Not real impressive to say the least.

 

Cincinnati, Louisville and Louisana Tech are undefeated.  Granted it wasn't against the best competition but they won with what they're given on the schedule. B1G can't say the same except for OSU who is currently undefeated.

cmd600

October 8th, 2012 at 9:13 PM ^

The Big Ten has no big wins is the actual problem. I count 13 OOC losses, but five were to now top 10 teams, Alabama, Oregon St and ND x3. And Illinois, Iowa and Penn St lost to now a combination of Iowa St, LA Tech, Arizona St, and Ohio,  all borderline top 25 teams, and it's not like anyone was expecting that former group to carry the banner for the Big Ten to begin with. Indiana has always been bad, leaving us with C Michigan over Iowa, UCLA over Nebraska and Virginia over Penn St. Not good, but Sagarin has the Big Ten as his 4th best conference, and that sounds about right.

turtleboy

October 9th, 2012 at 12:35 AM ^

My point is we don't need big wins, we just need to not lose. 3 Big East teams, Boise St, and Louisiana Tech are ranked. They don't have quality wins. Our biggest problem is we all risk early losses by opening 1000 miles away against quality opponents. Maybe next year when Cal, UCLA, and Oregon State play in B1G country it'll be different, but these series are all risk, no reward.

Asgardian

October 8th, 2012 at 8:39 PM ^

You can justify either Notre Dame at #6 or Michigan Unranked, but after watching that game, it's awfully tough to justify both of those spots at the same time.

Yeoman

October 8th, 2012 at 9:39 PM ^

Massey (NOT the silly BCS version of the Massey, of course):

  1. Alabama
  2. South Carolina
  3. Florida
  4. Oregon
  5. Kansas State
  6. Notre Dame
  7. Oklahoma
  8. West Virginia
  9. Texas
  10. Texas A&M
  11. Georgia
  12. LSU
  13. Baylor
  14. Texas Tech
  15. Ohio State
  16. USC
  17. Stanford
  18. Iowa State
  19. Arizona State
  20. Oregon State
  21. Mississippi State
  22. Michigan
  23. Florida State
  24. Oklahoma State
  25. Rutgers

Six SEC and six Big 12 teams in the top 14. I have never seen conference domination like that in a computer poll.

Sagarin has bit more love for the PAC than this, but his synthesis rating has five SEC teams in the top 7 and his predictor has four in the top 6 (predictor's not as fond of LSU).

Sagarin also thinks that if North Dakota State was in the Leaders division they'd be favored to win it. They're a point better than Wisconsin and six points better than Purdue.

mgoblue0970

October 9th, 2012 at 1:39 AM ^

Schools which cannot go to a bowl game, nor cannot go to their conference championship game, should not be ranked.

...and in the case of tUoOS, I use the term, "school" loosely... we ain’t come to play SCHOOL, classes are POINTLESS.