Allen Gant To SAM: What It Means Comment Count

Brian

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Gant == Cam Gordon

In news without explosions, Sam Webb reported yesterday($) that Allen Gant is moving down from safety to SAM in a shift reminiscent of Cam Gordon's, albeit without a bunch of painfully long touchdowns preceding it.

Gant [recruiting profile] was an early commit in the 2012 class who never really turned into the touted recruit he was supposed to be; at 6'2", 203 he'll have to add 20-30 pounds before he's a plausible option there. As a redshirt freshman behind two or three guys, he'll have time to do so. Meanwhile, allow me to congratulate myself at this juncture, as Gant's profile compared him to none other than Cam Gordon:

Gordon's listed at 6'3", 222 on the current roster after a few years on campus, which is where Gant will end up, give or take an inch and five pounds. Gordon came in as a WR, ended up moving to free safety in an ill-fated 3-3-5, and then slid all the way down to spur halfway through the 2010 season; he now mans an analogous position for Greg Mattison at SAM.

As a 3/4-star tweener Gordon was a little bit better regarded than Gant, and he's a little bigger. Both are thick guys who don't seem to have the speed to play WR or S despite being ticketed for those slots and might eventually find themselves somewhere else after a period of positional vagabondage.

SAM makes sense if Gant's natural inclination is to bulk up to 230, as Webb was told. It also suggests that Gant just wasn't much of a safety, as now the position verges on alarmingly thin. Next year's depth chart:

  1. Jarrod Wilson/Dymonte Thomas
  2. Jeremy Clark/Delano Hill
  3. Josh Furman/air

And that's if Furman returns for a fifth year and Thomas doesn't get himself locked into the nickelback spot long term, which I kind of hope he will since nickelback is capital-I Important these days. It looks like Michigan will be relying on three of four plausible options to log significant playing time, and while I'm pretty high on Thomas and Hill that's not many bullets for 2.5 starting spots.

Other roster upshots:

  • Mike McCray may not be SAM-sized after all. If McCray is projected to play SAM Michigan is fine with Gordon/Ryan/Beyer/McCray and Winovich on the way. The Gant move suggests McCray will compete at the ILB spots, as does Michigan's continued pursuit of guys like Noah Furbush, who is 6'4", 240 and a SAM/WDE all the way.
  • Michigan will take at least three DBs and possibly four in this class with a pure safety a priority. I know this is not what the insiders are saying at the moment (two or three, they assert), but I expect they will change their tune once the coaches get a good long look at the secondary depth chart and get a feel for how much they like Thomas at nickel. They've already backed off their assertions this would be a 16-man class; once a natural amount of attrition brings that number up between 18-20, safety is going to look like a—probably the—major area of need. None of the four incoming corner recruits looks particularly like a safety to me, as they are small or lanky.
  • Hello certain recruits. Hopefully when PA S Montae Nicholson ramps up his recruitment there is strong mutual interest. Nicholson is reputedly a bit concerned about the number of DBs Michigan has brought in recently, but for a pure safety prospect like Nicholson there is plenty of opportunity. Also, a guy like IL CB Parrker Westphal, who some are speculating may wait himself out of the class, is going to find a door left open for him for a long time. He has the flexibility to go boundary/nickel/SS, either freeing up Thomas to move back or just plain being an athletic safety; a guy like him is just what the doctor ordered.

Comments

boliver46

June 12th, 2013 at 2:57 PM ^

As I said before about Gant after my experience with him at Sylvania Southview - he's a great kid who will do anything to help the team.  Coaches want him at Safety?  Check!  Oh wait - we think you're better at the SAM position...ok, coach - Check!  We want you to sacrifice your body busting wedges, blowing up personal protectors, and making sure we have quality H2O?  Sure Coach! Check!

Just an all-around good kid I'm glad to have in the program.

Rabbit21

June 12th, 2013 at 3:12 PM ^

This feels like a move in which the coaches and Gant are trying to maximize his expected value rather than a move prompted by the inadequacies of another player.  Gant is a long-bodied kid with the frame to add weight and he does fit the Cam Gordon profile and if he saw the depth chart and the opportunity then he was probably open to the move as well.

Depth Chart Opportunity + Suitable Body Type -> Phase 2  ??? - > Phase 3 = Profit!

Magnus

June 12th, 2013 at 3:35 PM ^

Hell, the coaches might think Beyer is the starter. He played there in 2011 and started in the spring game over Gordon. I don't see what the coaches must see in him (I think he has 1 tackle for loss and 1 fumble recovery in his career), but I wouldn't necessarily say he's a backup right now. If the past is any indicator of the future, Beyer will be the starting SAM at the beginning of 2013.

Mich1993

June 12th, 2013 at 3:21 PM ^

I don't believe for a minute that Dymonte Thomas will stay at nickel.  I believe he's playing nickel to get better at coverage and because playing safety as a true freshman is too hard.  We have others that can play the nickel, but we don't have others that can grow into an all-american safety.

We need Wilson/Thomas/Clark to fill the two safety spots next year and Hill, Dawson and maybe Stribling as back-ups further down the line.  It's a little tight, but if Wilson and Thomas can both play there won't be many snaps for anyone else for a few years.

Seth

June 12th, 2013 at 3:27 PM ^

You missed an obvious caveat: that some of the 6'2-200 cornerbacks they're bringing in could move to free safety. Channing Stribling, for one, has been mentioned as a likely free safety. More will follow as they see a quicker route to playing time.

dragonchild

June 12th, 2013 at 8:33 PM ^

If all goes according to plan, anyway.  And I'm hopeful (Hoke uber alles).  I'm just saying this is very difficult to do, because it doesn't take much to fall short.  The physical talent has to be there at CB, and the brains have to be there at safety.  To get the physical talent AND brains at safety, you need a surplus of both.

That's the bottleneck.  If your CB's heady enough to move to safety but the incoming CB can't cover well enough or otherwise isn't ready, your starting CB's stuck.  If you're stocked at CB but the upperclassmen can't read plays well enough to move over, you'd rather have someone less talented but with a better understanding of the game.  In fact, the faster you are, the more dangerous your mistakes!

You'd like a guy with the right size and weight and speed and tackling skills, but safety is the rangy-est position in the game.  Mis-read the play and you're literally 20 yards away from the ball and giving away free TDs.  There's a reason why Mattison spoke so highly of Kovacs, and it sure wasn't his speed.

UMaD

June 12th, 2013 at 3:31 PM ^

  • Most of our recruits can project out to multiple positions by the end of their careers.  The emphasis on bigger CB recruits (e.g., Stribling, Dawson, Peppers), especially reflects flexibility.
  • Being lanky as a recruit doesn't preclude you from ending up at safety (e.g., Jeremy Clark.)  Just need to fill out, which most guys do.
  • A year from now Gant could be back at safety, or playing another position. (e.g., Beyer)
  • If nickelback is a big deal...then SAM probably isn't.  Ryan's a special player, so he gets slid into the DE spot frequently, but I don't think that will happen as much with Gordon and others.
  • Thomas, if as good as hyped, will certainly end up SS so that he can play every down.  Hoping he sticks to being a part-time player is debatable.
  • In the best-case scenario, Peppers inherets the nickel spot from Thomas or displaces a corner who can slide to nickel (e.g., Avery).
  • '14 Safety depth is not a real concern, just as SAM depth is not a real concern.  We fine.

UMaD

June 12th, 2013 at 4:30 PM ^

Is that there aren't any veteran backups waiting in the wings to replace Gordon.  But after this year that shouldn't be an issue any longer.  Especially if we assume Thomas and Peppers are going to contribute right away.  That's nearly 2/5ths of your secondary taken care of if both pan out.  Not to mention Countess, Taylor, Wilson, plus a bunch of other recruits we all like to varying degrees.

My point is that Gant (a guy many thought would move anyway) doens't change anything.

And - if you're the kind of guy who shrugs and assumes Miller is going to be good, Kalis should have played as a true Freshman and Braden is going to be a stud - it's odd to apply such a different attitude toward the secondary. 

In other words - I'd consider finding a 3rd OL in the class to be a bigger need than an additional SAM or Safety.  It's less likely we've found 5 good starters on the OL in the last couple recruiting classes than 2 good safety starters.

UMaD

June 12th, 2013 at 4:12 PM ^

but projecting 3-deep to a specific position after making assumptions about a bunch of HS kids future positions is a couple steps too specific in my book.  Position changes happen all the time.  You might as well be predicting Michigan's record in 2019.

Cougar

June 12th, 2013 at 4:39 PM ^

What is lost is that Gant was in the mix for playing time at SS this fall.  He had an injury last October that required surgery (in which he is still healing from).  He also had a different injury that limited him to 2 plays in the Spring Game.  The Coaches want to get him on the field as soon as possible ... and with the lack of depth at SAM, this is a good opportunity.  Gant's natural weight is 220-225 ... which is heavier that what the Coaches want at Safety.  I ask the right questions to the right people to get the right answers!

AC1997

June 13th, 2013 at 8:43 AM ^

I agree with a lot of the things said here.  The only reason you should be worried about the depth next season is if you thought Gant would/could contribute to the 2-deep.  If you thought he'd be a practice stud and special teams contributor then nothing changes.  I'm not worried about it.  Dymonte will move to safety with Wilson and Peppers will start at nickel.  Clark will be the swing safety back-up.