Not exactly a denial from OSU
This might be a bad sign for OSU fans. Rather than simply stating the rumor is false, they're treating it as part of their current NCAA problems.
http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/2011/03/post_36.html
An administration official said today that the school has been in frequent contact with the NCAA about the suspensions of six players for selling memorabilia, because the school is appealing those suspensions, and that the discussion of this latest allegation will be folded into those conversations.
EDIT: Changed the title because no one thinks I'm funny.
Lame
I saw your title and started to wonder how MfaninOH got to make a post.
I'll change the title.
I can't tell how sarcastic you were being, but I wasn't trying to be a dick. I just thought it was funny; I realize it was a very sarcastic title for you.
I didn't think it was dickish.
Just curious, what was the original title?
"This totally proves Tressel is 100% guilty" or something like that.
It was "This Totally Proves Tressel is 100% Not Guilty". That's why I made the joke about the other poster, he said almost the exact same thing last night, but he meant it.
This was the link for the original thread, so I don't think it was:
http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/totally-proves-tressel-100-guilty
Well shit, then my joke made no sense. Definitely read that wrong, my bad.
I thought you went a different way on the sarcasm, must have gotten it mixed up.
I took your joke just to mean that you assumed whoever posted the thread was a dumbass. You know, like mfaninoh.
Hmm..that works too I guess. I'll go with that one.
But last night he was stating that there was absolutely 100% no way Tressel was guilty. He was getting more into that than the OSU fans on that thread and this one.
At first glance, this suggests the opposite to me. If they're folding this new information into an appeal to the original accusations, then that suggests OSU thinks the NCAA overreacted/is overreacting. If they had dropped the appeal, then that would suggest OSU realizes that they stand on shaky ground and they need to start making nice to the NCAA. I think what you posted suggests either nothing, or the opposite of what you stated (EDIT: back when you had the thread titled 'This proves 100% that OSU is guilty').
Yeah, I didn't really think it was proof of anything. I do think it's interesting though, that there hasn't been a flat denial. Their initial story to the NCAA was that they didn't find out until December, so I don't know how you "fold in" contradictory evidence without, you know, contradicting yourself.
The AD hasn't made any official statements yet, though, right? They may still end up denying it when that statement is made. Even if they deny it, it's probably prudent of them to at least address the rumor (if they see it as such) in their appeal.
But it would be a curious PR move to have the first word out of the university be a comment that they're lumping this in with the things they've already admitted to doing wrong.
Of course, whoever the "administration official" was who talked to Lesmerises may not have been supposed to say anything yet.
There's now a presser scheduled for 7.
I agree. Good information, presser at 7:00 tonight. Should be interesting regardless of which direction it takes.
I forget, but what was UM'a response to the Freep allegations? I'm just wondering because it seems to me that calling a presser with all the players this quickly means they he an explanation or think they do at least. Couple this with the basically "no comment" press release, and I'm having a hard time reading the situation.
UM didn't have an immediate comment. They did kind of the same thing OSU is doing, because the Freep apparently gave them like an hour to respond to a huge investigative piece.
The only thing different is that Tressel should be able to come out and completely deny this, if he didn't do anything wrong, wheras we needed to conduct a review to see if we were in the wrong.
Huh?
Lots of smoke for OSU right now. We'll see just how much of Rome burns. What I do know is the timing is pretty bad - other than the NCAA bubble talk there is NOTHING going on in sports right now.
Columbus is more of Gaul, or maybe Greece in those times, than Rome.
... are offended.
Beavis offended all of Rome though. Compared to that, I only offended like 1/50th of the people he did.
THE HEAT ARE CRYING THOUGH THEY ARE ONLY 43-20
LEAVE THE HEAT ALONE!
Dunno if I'd refer to Columbus as Rome.....More like Mordor....or Pyongyang with more beer....
Bucknuts posters are stating that a statement will be made regarding the allegations around 6-7pm tonight.
The article states that six players were suspended for selling memorabilia, but only five were suspended for that reason - Pryor, Posey, Solomon, Herron, and Adams. The sixth player I think they're talking about, Whiting, was for receiving "discounted servies," not selling anything.
After the story back in December originally broke, it was actually stated that Herron didn't sell anything either but received discounts as well.
I'm not sure it's OSU's call to just roll this into the pending appeal. The NCAA might have something to say about that.
<br>I think the biggest cause for concern is that it's 20 hours later and there hasn't been a flat denial from Tressel. If he weren't guilty, wouldn't he come out right away with a statement denying the allegations? The delay makes me think that maybe their checking their facts to determine what they can and can't deny.
ESPN just said OSU is having a presser tonight at 7 PM (ET I believe) about the allegations. Read into it what you will.
Edit: slow pony.
I hear they have a lot of signed merchandise still to move.
I just can't get a good handle on why Tressel would fail to disclose the April information in this day and age where secrets rarely remain hidden. Perhaps I am naive, but I wonder if the information was shared and Tressel was hushed up in hope it might go away or who knows what. He had to have known that if what has come to light, assuming it to be true, implicates him in a cover up, both he and the program have significant problems.
OSU's football program has gotten away with whatever they wanted to for years. When the NCAA tried to investigate the Clarett accusations, they ran into the Scarlet Wall. Everyone at OSU has to feel that they are immune to punishent for their actions. Consequently, they cheat with utter impugnity.
Tressel included...
the "sweater vest" isn't concerned because everything over the years has simply disappeared from coverage (this include BB too).
Not saying this doesn't happen at alot of schools (Texas, Alabama, Auburn, USC etc) ... because a little smoke will only turn into a fire if the local press continues to fan it until it becomes flames that the NCAA cannot ignore. We've all witnessed this first-hand.
I highly doubt anything will develop from this at TSIO. Seems they can turn on the "Clingon Invisibility Shield" anytime they want !
Go Blue !
This story has legs. hitting all the MSM outlets online as we speak. The hammer may finally come down.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2011/03/08/sports/ncaafootball/AP-FBC-O…
and
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/08/jim-tressel-knew-ohio-state-pl…
happy in their pain? yes. But, maybe other conflicting thoughts. (not so much)
It definitely has legs - from the Columbus Dispatch:
The university evidently is taking the allegations seriously. The news conference will include university president E. Gordon Gee and athletic director Gene Smith, who otherwise was expected to be in Indianapolis tonight to begin his duties as chairman of the NCAA men's Division I basketball committee.
Heard Herbstreit on ESPN radio around lunch time. He said nobody really knows when Tressel found out but I thought that a federal investigator told him, is that right? Herbie wasn't very convincing at all, kept talking about next season and would only allow that this might be a distraction.
we all know they are dirty. Rumors of this happening and only being the tip of the ice bergs have been circulating among HS coaches in OH for a while now. (And getting Ohio HS coaches to say anything bad about Tress is like getting a third grade girl to bad mouth Bieber)
Will be interesting to see how good they cover this up.
get the FUCK off my tv