Major D-1 University Is About To Be In Hot Water
I know this is frowned upon but I read a really interesting thread on Rivals and wanted to hear what the board thinks. Apparently a major news source is about to publish a report about a major D-1 school that not many would expect. There are supposed to be names, dates and amounts. It was stated that it close to coming out, maybe before Summer. They have to get all of their facts straight before coming out with it. It's supposed to be a huge news story and sounds like it could absolutely devastate whichever school it is. A lot of people are speculating that it is PSU or ND. If I find anything else out I'll let you know. Let the speculation begin.
February 24th, 2011 at 3:16 PM ^
Does it involve players selling gear for tattoos?
February 24th, 2011 at 3:20 PM ^
I read the same thing over on Scout. This is really interesting. It was first reported on the Ohio State Scout premium board. It doesn't seem like it would be OSU. It's supposed to blow the lid off of a major program. It has to be football. I was thinking ND. I hate to be like this but I hope it is them or one of the other teams in the midwest that we have to have recruiting battles with. It would get things running much quicker if that were the case.
February 24th, 2011 at 3:28 PM ^
Yeah. This is huge news. Whatever school it is will probably end up getting hammered to the point that they won't be relevant for quite some time. This is the most interesting thing I've read on Scout in a long time. It's going to be a B10 team and we can only hope that it's ND (they're not in the B10 but I count them anyway), PSU or MSU. I'd like it to be ND too but MSU would be fun as well.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:06 PM ^
I don't think it will be fun to have any team in the B1G or ND be involved in anything. I want to beat MSU PSU and ND when they are good, not when they are down. It would be terrible for the conference. I hope its USC, again.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:21 PM ^
This thread feels like bad Karma.
February 24th, 2011 at 6:16 PM ^
I THINK I MAY KNOW WHO OR AT LEAST THE CONFRENCE.<<THE SEC>> GO TO OVERSIGNING.COM IT WILL REALLY OPEN YOUR EYES ABOUT HOW BAD THAT CONFRENCE HAS BEEN.
February 24th, 2011 at 6:41 PM ^
You don't have to yell, I'd have gone if you asked nicely.
February 25th, 2011 at 1:36 AM ^
What happened to your caps lock when you typed in your screen name?
February 24th, 2011 at 4:50 PM ^
Makes the most sense to me. They've consistently hauled in major recruiting classes regardless of their on field results to the point that I've often wondered if they were paying guys to come.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:15 PM ^
All that money is spent on hushing up St. Mary co-eds.
February 25th, 2011 at 12:20 AM ^
kinda rules out tOSU, unless you were to add " to be held accountable".
February 24th, 2011 at 3:20 PM ^
could you be more Vague?
February 24th, 2011 at 3:23 PM ^
It's legit, though. I've heard of the same thing. There's really not much else to say. He's just telling you what has been reported thus far. It's vague but incredibly intriguing.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:03 PM ^
Is it legit because you have read the same thing on message boards, or legit like other sources are reporting on it?
February 24th, 2011 at 5:59 PM ^
Thanks for your insight, you have quickly become my least favorite poster.
February 24th, 2011 at 6:15 PM ^
He just now became your least favorite poster? Where have you been.
February 24th, 2011 at 3:20 PM ^
Backboard University, surely.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:59 PM ^
win...
(Stands in empty gym, glares up at hoop and shakes fist)..."I HOPE YOU BURN IN HELL!"
February 24th, 2011 at 3:23 PM ^
this just in MSU players are using football as a work release program, and getting paid!
BOOM mgoroasted!
February 24th, 2011 at 3:24 PM ^
i just reread the title and it said 'major'....can't be MSU
BOOM mgoroasted again!
February 24th, 2011 at 3:26 PM ^
Can you link to the rivals thread? I have not seen this on the Fort.
February 24th, 2011 at 3:28 PM ^
Dear God have it be ND. I would like little more than for them to suck forever. More than OSU. I actually respect OSU, maybe it's The Game, maybe it's the big ten, but I at least respect OSU in addition to hating them. With ND, I just hate them. I hope their program suffers.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:55 PM ^
Samsies!
February 24th, 2011 at 6:11 PM ^
I agree with this 100%.
February 24th, 2011 at 3:28 PM ^
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=162&f=1088&t=7234810
It appears to have originated from Bill Greene, a scout writer. I have no idea if that's where the rumors started, but I guess he posted it on OSU's premium board last night.
February 24th, 2011 at 3:50 PM ^
Do either of the threads have any sort of non-vague details that could be worth wasting a 7-day free trial on?
February 24th, 2011 at 3:51 PM ^
Absolutely not. It's the same wild speculation. If anything concrete comes up, it will end up being posted here anyways. Use the 7-day trial for a signing day if anything.
February 24th, 2011 at 3:54 PM ^
Use the 7-day trial for a signing day if anything.
Absolutely not. It's the same wild speculation. If anything concrete comes up, it will end up being posted here anyways.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:13 PM ^
I agree, I was only picking the best time, assuming there isn't another coaching change. The whole thing is a waste of money.
February 24th, 2011 at 3:52 PM ^
Dirk Diggler posted what was said below.
February 25th, 2011 at 12:27 AM ^
followed by the 7 week attempt to cancel your subscription?
February 24th, 2011 at 7:25 PM ^
Greene hasn't posted anything about this.
February 24th, 2011 at 3:29 PM ^
Please let it be an SEC school and not a Big Ten school.
February 24th, 2011 at 3:43 PM ^
I'm all for it being a Big Ten school (provided it isn't us). That benefits us a lot more than an SEC team getting in trouble does.
February 24th, 2011 at 3:54 PM ^
Because it hurts everyone in the conference.
It might be funny to us to see PSU or someone go down, but if this scandal is as big as they're saying, I don't want Michigan's name anywhere near it: I don't want them on highlight tape playing the team, I don't want to hear "as a fellow conference member, University of Michigan's AD Dave Brandon had this to say..."
I would much rather this be Auburn or Alabama and leave them to deal with the wreckage.
February 24th, 2011 at 3:59 PM ^
I don't really care about the conference as a whole. OSU winning the national title in 2002 may have benefitted the conference, but it absolutely sucked for Michigan. I'm fine with the conference sucking if we're good. As long as we're a BCS auto-qualifier, it doesn't really matter if we're the #1, #2, #3 or whatever conference.
If, say, PSU goes down, that would mean the state of Pennsylvania would be wide open in recruiting, and that our games against them probably become easier. Those are direct benefits to us. Alabama or Auburn going down doesn't benefit us at all. Some other SEC team, that cheats more effectively, will just step in and fill the void.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:19 PM ^
Us playing in the "SEC North" would be a big harm to us though, in my opinion. The Big Ten being seen as a clean conference has a lot of benefits.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:26 PM ^
I don't see why one program getting in trouble would tarnish the whole conference. MSU has been hit hard by the NCAA twice (once in the '70s and once in the '90s) and it didn't seem to affect the conference's rep. And of course OSU has had the Clarett issue and now the tattoo thing.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:35 PM ^
Unless this is totally made up or hyped, this won't be five players taking money for selling their own stuff. This will be SMU round two.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:48 PM ^
There's no way it'll reach that scale. SMU was on probation six times in 30 years before the NCAA dropped the hammer.
BTW, MSU's two run-ins were big deals. They were banned from postseason play for a couple years in the '70s, and vacated their entire 1994 season, followed by four years of scholarship reductions.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:14 PM ^
In this day and age, with Cam Newton running around and Lane Kiffen and all that, my bet would be that they bitch slap someone if the facts are there. If they have names and amounts and bank accounts and whatnot, some school is going to face ridiculous penalties because the NCAA wants to show its relevancy, and that school would be an easy target.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:35 PM ^
The USC treatment (some lost scholarships and a postseason ban of 1-2 years) is the standard for punishment now. The NCAA seems to actually regret the SMU death penalty, even though it was fully deserved.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:40 PM ^
I think the SMU case just scared every other dirty school back into semi-compliance. We got hammered with the Fab Five for one booster, USC with a couple agents, but I can't think of a systemic paying for recruits scandal since. It might be there, but I can't think of anything comperable since.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:45 PM ^
I don't know. The pressure to win has only increased since then, so it would stand to reason that the cheating is still going on. I think schools are just getting more sophisticated about cheating. They're "outsourcing" it to third parties that are harder to track down (and probably, harder for coaches to control, if they even want to).
February 25th, 2011 at 12:30 AM ^
are constantly on guard in protection of the B16's image.
February 24th, 2011 at 3:59 PM ^
I understand what you're saying but if it were a team that goes toe to toe with us in recruiting that would help out a lot. Plus that team would be down so we could count on a win more so than before. There are a lot of pros if it were an elite Big Ten team. I agree that it sucks that the SEC schools get away with murder and never get caught, though.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:03 PM ^
Or we could beat teams when they're good like we did for over a hundred years up until 2007.