Major D-1 University Is About To Be In Hot Water
I know this is frowned upon but I read a really interesting thread on Rivals and wanted to hear what the board thinks. Apparently a major news source is about to publish a report about a major D-1 school that not many would expect. There are supposed to be names, dates and amounts. It was stated that it close to coming out, maybe before Summer. They have to get all of their facts straight before coming out with it. It's supposed to be a huge news story and sounds like it could absolutely devastate whichever school it is. A lot of people are speculating that it is PSU or ND. If I find anything else out I'll let you know. Let the speculation begin.
February 24th, 2011 at 3:46 PM ^
Oklahoma; how they keep getting people to go to Norman has been forever beyond me. Boomer Soonered
February 24th, 2011 at 4:10 PM ^
I was thinkin' the same thing. Why the hell would I ever want to live in the giant field that is Oklahoma for four years if I can go to another top program? I guess someone could say the same about the snow up here.
Granted, history and tradition-wise, they rank as highly as we do, but they don't have Michigan academics and Ann Arbor to offer. As far as football goes, they are very similar from a high-level overview:
Top echelon history, flagship state school in a decent talent-producing state (relatively), next door to a top-talent producing state with a large number of fans/alumni residing there. Ease of academics probably plays a positive and negative role for certain recruits, same as ours can be a positive or negative for recruits (ex: Wayne Lyons vs. Demar Dorsey).
Still, I wouldn't mind seeing Norman burn, if only to even out the absurd amount of cheating there in the 70s and 80s.
February 24th, 2011 at 9:50 PM ^
why go to norman. simple -- the coeds. it is reason #2 why i went there instead of umich. see signature for reason #1. the school, in Norman, had only 22k on campus at that time, and it was the best looking campus of the three that i visit -- Purdue was by far the worst. so you get the small college feeling at a major university. for those who attended OU for the academics, it was a good school. my dad, a umich ChE grad, thought that it was neary as good as umich. my dad's grad advisor advisor was teaching still at OU. he was still a major force in thermogodamnics (yes, you read that right.) and a great guy -- outside of his thermo class.
okay now for some dirt: yes, most of the football players and b-ball players had special, not in the regular student catalog courses. Marcus DuPree had, in his last term at OU, 2/4 not in my student catalog. I accidentally took a 200 level english course that was a footballl friendly class. I did not know this until after I finished. (...and I works my tail off to get that A when i did not have to; hey, I'm an engineer.) On the other hand, Brian Bosworth had a legit major and a 3.4+ gpa. Waymon Tisdale, a b-ball player and first roung NBA draft choice, and I had the same class; we both got B's in Poly Sci. He too received a degree from OU.
disclaimer: my lawyer/then OU temp president was the one to give the resign today or else ultimatum. And yes, i do have stories of the early 80's sooners which justfied the near dismissal just as the NCAA dropped the hmmer on them in the early 90's.
February 24th, 2011 at 11:11 PM ^
I live in Ft. Smith AR which gets all of the same weather that OKC gets. With the exception of one day earlier this week we have been in the 60s and 70' for almost 2 weeks. When was the last time that you could count on that weather in the middle of February in Detroit. I understand what you are saying about the middle of a field thing but there are pros and cons to going anywhere.
February 24th, 2011 at 3:47 PM ^
I hope its not us. My top 3 that i would love to see in order is
1. ND
1a. Alabama
2. MSU
3. OSU
February 24th, 2011 at 3:59 PM ^
ND, Alabama, MSU and OSU equals 4?
February 24th, 2011 at 4:03 PM ^
ha i know i submited it then i realized how much i hate alabama and their oversigning and decided to throw it in there but couldnt decide which one i hate more and forgot to change it
February 24th, 2011 at 3:47 PM ^
I'll put my money on ND or Illinois. Seriously how did Zook that level of player to Illinois when they were 2-10 year after year.
February 24th, 2011 at 3:49 PM ^
On the time period that these violations took place?
February 24th, 2011 at 3:54 PM ^
My money is on Tennessee.
February 25th, 2011 at 3:48 AM ^
How would Tennessee be a surprise though? They're already under investigation, and will get sanctioned for Kiffin's antics.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:10 PM ^
There has been no word on that.
February 24th, 2011 at 3:52 PM ^
Man...there are so many schools in which I would like to schadenfreude (yes, I know it isn't a verb).
Let's see here...I hate OSU...MSU...ND...and as much as it would help recruiting, I can't root for it to be one of them. It seems just to close to home...plus, even blind people can see that those schools are moral and ethical leaps and bounds ahead of the SEC West.
Please, please, please be any or all of the following: Auburn, Alabama, LSU, Arkansas, Ole' Miss, South Carolina. Regardless of oversigning, the business of recruiting and educating student-athletes is a joke in the SEC, but especially among those schools. Hell, if you've got the president of a member school (and arguably the most powerful, if not most then top tier) writing an open letter to SI because the rules have been bent and broken so badly.
Please just give Bama and Auburn the Death Penalty and I'll be more than happy. I'm tired of the media comparing that rivalry to the M-OSU rivalry just because that state is filled with dumber and more vindictive people with free time.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:00 PM ^
Please, please, please be this.
February 24th, 2011 at 7:52 PM ^
my wishlist is:
1. Alabama
2. Kentucky
3. Auburn
4. Florida
5. Ole Miss (unfortunately not a DI power in anything major)
6. South Carolina or Clemson (same deal)
February 24th, 2011 at 3:52 PM ^
"They have to get all of their facts straight before coming out with it."
Well we know it's not the Freep, then.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:21 PM ^
A "major news outlet" is about to break the story. Surely that entails actual journalists and a readership in triple figures, at least . . .
February 24th, 2011 at 5:26 PM ^
Your "readers in triple figures" reference made me laugh out loud in class. Well worth the ineffective +1 I can send you in return.
February 24th, 2011 at 3:54 PM ^
My top 5:
1.) Clemson
2.) Stanford
3.) Cal
4.) Virginia
5.) Nebraska
February 24th, 2011 at 3:57 PM ^
Yes, the mighty Virginia program will smitten.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:02 PM ^
Top 25 class this year out of nowhere including Brandon Phelps, who chose Virginia over Ohio State, Michigan, LSU, Penn State and Nebraska, among others. Granted he is local and may have wanted to stay closer to home but how does Virginia randomly start nabbing recruits?
February 24th, 2011 at 5:23 PM ^
Because Brandon Phelps' parents both went to UVA. And literally almost everyone else in the class is from either Virginia or a private school in Maryland - those schools are UVA pipelines on and off the athletic fields.
It'll be Virginia Tech before it's Virginia.
February 24th, 2011 at 3:59 PM ^
how I do wish it were Stanford. I have an unhealthy hatred for that school that may or may not stem from being rejected by them. Twice.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:10 PM ^
Clemson would be an obvious choice after this past NLOID. If it were Stanford, that would explain how Harbaugh got them up and running so quickly. No one could say that we didn't dodge a bullet there. I think the other ones are iffy at best.
February 24th, 2011 at 3:54 PM ^
Clemson? They keep pulling in top class after top class.
February 24th, 2011 at 3:55 PM ^
It's gotta be Florida, I'm guessing that's why Urban Meyer left.
February 24th, 2011 at 3:59 PM ^
That was my first thought as well
February 24th, 2011 at 3:56 PM ^
Damn it its slippery rock. Theyre a major program, they always get announced at all of our home games so they must be a major program.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:00 PM ^
I heard it is the Naval Acadamy...
February 24th, 2011 at 4:29 PM ^
It has to be the Black Knights. I mean, their players are trained marksman in numerous weapons, for chrissakes! Teaching college football players to shoot heavy machine guns and artillery has to be against some kind of NCAA rule, right?
February 24th, 2011 at 5:37 PM ^
Actually, the academies DO pay their players. They're active duty military.
February 24th, 2011 at 9:39 PM ^
...knows of what he speaks. Take a look at the D-I Manual and marvel at all of the exceptions for the service academies. The NCAA has to do that to account for their unique model.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:00 PM ^
I got a dollar on Stanford.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:59 PM ^
February 24th, 2011 at 4:02 PM ^
OMG INSIDERZ, are you guys getting clues? Where are they pointing?
February 24th, 2011 at 4:24 PM ^
They usually have raging clues pointing somewhere.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:33 PM ^
We've got plenty of MgoHardley Boys here. (Their clues say Notre Dame.)
February 24th, 2011 at 6:49 PM ^
Your clue is giving me a clue.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:02 PM ^
I really would like to see it be an SEC team preferably LSU!
February 24th, 2011 at 4:26 PM ^
I was thinking a SEC school like LSU, Alabama, or Auburn.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:02 PM ^
The caveat is that we all expect schools like Bama, Auburn and LSU to be dirty programs.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:05 PM ^
What makes everyone thiink it's a Big 10 school? The excerpt Dirk Diggler posted above doesn't indicate that.
Surprised no one's mentioned Texas. Obviously a major program, and would definitely be surprising as Mack Brown is widely considered to run things pretty cleanly. Yet, in the end, would really not be *that* surprising....anyone that saw the Pony Excess documentary knows how shady Texans can geet when it comes to their football.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:14 PM ^
The reasoning behind it is that Bill Greene (the man who posted it) is a midwest analyst for Scout. You could be right, though.
February 25th, 2011 at 10:04 AM ^
That plus "major news outlet" points to Chicago Tribune to me - so hoping ND. Then again, there have been enough statements and issues leaked from tUOS that there is something to start with, however that would make it less of an unexpected surprise.
Iowa, Wiscy, or PSU maybe. The respect for Jo Pa makes PSU more likely I guess.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:11 PM ^
and the whole story will turn out to be totally overblown.
February 25th, 2011 at 10:55 AM ^
February 24th, 2011 at 4:23 PM ^
And I don't see any way it could be us. PSU or ND would be a real surprise. Is it definitely for football? Basketball recruiting seems shadier.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:25 PM ^
There was stuff about Auburn a while ago? Who knows. We'll see soon enough.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:44 PM ^
The OP stated it was a school most people wouldn't expect. I'm guessing most people wouldn't be surprised if Auburn (or any other SEC school except for maybe Vandy) was caught with major ncaa violations.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:27 PM ^
I have it on good authority that it's not Temple.