Rivals article says the D will be running a 4-3
http://www.michigan.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1178022
In the article above, LA DB Darren Kitchen mentions Fred Jackson said they will be running a 4-3.
January 18th, 2011 at 11:57 PM ^
Our defense will be better next year. BKFinest Shorts it.
January 18th, 2011 at 11:51 PM ^
I'm happy with it as long as it is flexible enough (scheme and personnel) to match up with pure spread teams. I can see the value in having the 3-3-5 as a change of pace, but not as an every down D.
Cheers to GMAT and him knowing how to run a real defense.
January 18th, 2011 at 11:52 PM ^
I teared up when I heard we were running a 4-3....for real I am so happy.
January 18th, 2011 at 11:54 PM ^
This definitely paves the way for some DL recruits....
January 19th, 2011 at 9:56 AM ^
Maybe next recruiting class. Kids don't have enough time to build a relationship with the new staff unless they were already being recruited by them. Hope I'm wrong, but that's just my opinion.
January 18th, 2011 at 11:56 PM ^
posbang = ? :/
January 18th, 2011 at 11:57 PM ^
January 19th, 2011 at 9:57 AM ^
that you speak off?
January 19th, 2011 at 12:00 AM ^
From reading everything in the past about Kitchen I can conclude that he would've met up with Hoke around Iowa as they both walked to Michigan!
January 19th, 2011 at 12:01 AM ^
4-3 defense? I'm giddy with anticipation!
January 19th, 2011 at 12:13 AM ^
on the lineup
DL:VanBergen/Washington/Martin/Roh
LB:Jones or Furman/Demens/Fitzgerald
DB:Floyd (like to see one of three freshmen corners step up)/Vinopal/Johnson/Wolfolk
Quite frankly, it doesn't look that bad to me. We'll see.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:19 AM ^
I'd put Cam Gordon into the line-up at LB, probably in place of Furman.
I'd put Marvin Robinson in at one safety spot, probably for Vinopal. Reports from pre-bowl practice said MRob was moved to FS and was picking it up very well. He didn't get the start for the bowl, but he was pretty new to the spot. A whole off-season might make all the difference.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:34 AM ^
I"m not sure Cam has a spot anymore. For one he is 207 lbs. That's good 20 lbs away from playing lb in this conference. Second, he just isn't a quick-twitch athlete. You saw that when he played at safety. Moving him to lb masks some of that, of course. I don't know why we thought the kid could ever play defense in the first place. Slow (abliet big) possession wide outs don't translate to the defensive side of the ball.
I think Vinopal is underrated. You put a good 10 pounds on him, and I think he would have one hell of a skillset. The kid is pretty fast, and on the quick side. Vinopal is the only safety I would trust in a two deep look as of now. I even think you could play him single high every once in a while, and I just don't see any other safety being able to do that.
January 19th, 2011 at 1:00 AM ^
January 19th, 2011 at 1:11 AM ^
January 19th, 2011 at 2:01 AM ^
I like Ray. But he has neither speed nor size.
January 19th, 2011 at 3:18 AM ^
Vinopal is notably fast, especially for a tiny white dude. Not Denard or Shaw fast, but his speed is probably his second-greatest attribute (next to instincts...he's show he can actually step in front of a route, which we've been missing for nearly a decade).
January 19th, 2011 at 9:32 AM ^
Is a talented and fast kid. He definitely will have a spot. Nickel back. Wide side linebacker. Blitzer. Even if only a sub at times this season, he's going to get significant playing time, and will likely be a starter in 2012 (if not 2011).
January 19th, 2011 at 12:26 AM ^
Vinopal NOOOOOOOOOOO.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:27 AM ^
Dude. Stumps got skillz.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:39 AM ^
who tackled Mike Leshoure (a potential first round pick) at the LOS in the one of the most important players in the ill. game, and is probably our best cover safety. God forbid he plays.
He often got caught a little too deep, but that's not uncommon for a freshman and is fixable.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:53 PM ^
Probably our best cover safety? This is reason to rep him?
January 19th, 2011 at 12:50 AM ^
Marell Evans. I'm assuming he earned his way back because of his stellar play at Hampton. Perhaps he is good enough to lock up that WLB spot?
also: POSBANGMOTHERFUCKERSWWWEEEEEEEEEEEE
January 19th, 2011 at 1:18 AM ^
I like him on the line more than Washington.
January 19th, 2011 at 1:29 AM ^
January 19th, 2011 at 2:05 AM ^
JIbreel Black should be a DE, not a NT. Hopefully Hoke and Mattison can work some wonders with Campbell and get him ready to be our NT. Roh - Campbell/Washington - Martin - Van Bergen. That has the potential to be a very good line.
January 19th, 2011 at 8:34 AM ^
but I don't see Avery in there. I think the kid has potential.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:15 AM ^
Based on what I am reading today about the defense and the coaching hires, Kevin Koger and Will Campbell got a second Christmas less than 4 weeks from the official one. Campbell gets a defensive line specialist as head coach with a scheme that likely will utilize more tackles, plus a totally fresh start. That slightly outdoes Koger who only gets a position coach who groomed Tony Gonzalez and a more mature seasoned Denard. Hope he can make do.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:17 AM ^
January 19th, 2011 at 12:23 AM ^
I love this day. I really hope Jernigan and Darian Cooper catch wind of this. IIRC, they were 2 of the DTs who expressed they did not want to play in a 3-3-5. Someone get them on the phone immediately.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:57 AM ^
isn't that what the dc ran with ravens. maybe some concepts because he ran 4-3 with florida then a 3-4 with ravens. maybe a cameron gorrdon/ terrell suggs combo?
January 19th, 2011 at 1:19 AM ^
We can keep some of that speed!
January 19th, 2011 at 3:21 AM ^
I feel schemes as a matter of formation are completely overrated.
The implementation and execution of these schemes is what matters.
This could be a 4-3 or a 3-4, depending on Roh's label. It will be the same damn defense. Get a grip, folks.
The departure of the 3-3-5 is merely symbolic...nothing more.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:43 AM ^
3-3-5 is dirty word around here. That label had to go with RR. Whether we still employ the D from time to time is irrelevant- don't get caught up in the semantics. Changing the culture is Hoke's first task. Bringing in Mattison has dramatically shifted the way our D is viewed, thus bringing Mr. Optimism back to the party.
January 19th, 2011 at 8:54 AM ^
The role of the defensive line in a 3 man front line is totally different than in a 4 man front line and the kind of players you want to bring in and develop are totally different as well.
It does make a difference.
January 19th, 2011 at 1:52 PM ^
But when you have a guy like Roh who doesn't always have to play with his hand down (it would be nice if he rushed every time, though), the defense could be labeled 3-4 or 4-3 if we're going by personnel alone.
January 19th, 2011 at 5:41 AM ^
We have the talent on this team to patch together a decent 4-3 already, I think. The 3-3-5 put a lot of people out of position and in places they had no clue about.
And to whomever mistakenly called Mattison "GERG" - only "GERG" can be called "GERG". There is no other "GERG". Some texts use "GERG" and "3 (rushing plays) - 3(passing plays) - 5 (yard line)" as the long form of the name, but they refer to only one person.
January 19th, 2011 at 8:20 AM ^
It will be nice to actually see at least 4 down lineman on 3rd and short
January 19th, 2011 at 8:24 AM ^
to see more then a handful of effective blizting next year!!
January 19th, 2011 at 8:58 AM ^
I can't stop smiling, my wife says I have a problem....
January 19th, 2011 at 10:17 AM ^
Good times are coming this way.
January 19th, 2011 at 10:34 AM ^
I could be wrong but my guy tells me that you could see true freshman Des Morgan break into the line up next year at LB.
The kids got mad football smarts and brings the pain when he hits.
January 19th, 2011 at 10:51 AM ^
Thank god, now I don't have to watch Mike Martin fight through a triple team to pummel the QB. Just imagine that animal if we can get Big Will/Q just to take up a blocker or two, other teams will shit their pants preping for him!
I fully expect this to open the door for DL/LB recruits we weren't getting before because of the 3-3-5. I have no clue what our offense will be, but what I do know is that our defense will be MUCH better and tough.
Defense wins championships...GO BLUE!
January 19th, 2011 at 3:44 PM ^
So will they run a 3-man front if they play play a spread team. Hopefully Michigan does not have as much trouble using the 4-3 against the spread like they used to.