OT: New teams joining the WAC
Denver, Texas-San Antonio, and Texas state all are teams moving in the WAC conference starting in 2012-2013 once Boise, Fresno, and Nevada all move out.
November 10th, 2010 at 5:21 PM ^
Does this move also put the WAC into the FCS?
November 10th, 2010 at 5:20 PM ^
Denver has a football team?
November 10th, 2010 at 5:22 PM ^
no football team for DU.
November 10th, 2010 at 5:22 PM ^
that's the first thing I thought also....Denver University, that's the first I've ever heard of it.
November 10th, 2010 at 5:48 PM ^
U of Denver has a decent history in collegiate hockey.
November 10th, 2010 at 6:09 PM ^
November 10th, 2010 at 9:52 PM ^
I thought my buddy was messing with me when he told me he got into U. Denver Med. School.
November 10th, 2010 at 5:22 PM ^
You have to like Broncos' chances in that conference, if they can get by Hawaii.
November 10th, 2010 at 5:34 PM ^
They won't be there next year, moving to the MWC.
November 10th, 2010 at 5:43 PM ^
Somebody missed the joke.
November 10th, 2010 at 6:03 PM ^
I missed the joke. This is what happens after being at work for 12 hrs.
November 10th, 2010 at 5:30 PM ^
UTSA hasn't had a team either. I think they are having their first FCS season next year. They hired Larry Coker (formerly of that Miami) and have been pulling recruits from the fertile Austin/San Antonio area fairly well for never having had a team.
Oh, and their home non-conference schedule starting in 2013 is more impressive than Michigan's over the last decade. Truth.
November 11th, 2010 at 9:05 AM ^
They have been undefeated in D1 football since the 1950s, a worthy replacement to BSU methinks.
November 10th, 2010 at 5:24 PM ^
is going way down at least in terms of football, this semes to make their conference worse not better
November 10th, 2010 at 5:26 PM ^
wow any movie with quantum leap and sinbad is worth seeing again
November 10th, 2010 at 5:37 PM ^
I prefer Sinbad's more dynamic performance in Houseguest.
November 10th, 2010 at 6:26 PM ^
You know I still laugh thinking about him washing his hands in novacaine in that movie. Even the part where he makes up 1000 different names for the crest on his jaket was classic. I will definitely second ur houseguest reference.
November 10th, 2010 at 6:14 PM ^
She's not too bad either...
November 10th, 2010 at 8:12 PM ^
to the league's quest to sign up three more WACkers
November 10th, 2010 at 6:43 PM ^
Wow the Wac has fallen hard. Now the equivalent of the western sun belt.
It will be interesting to see how UTSA fits in the new WAC, with coker as head coach. My money is on them emerging as the new leader of the conference.
November 10th, 2010 at 8:25 PM ^
The western Sun Belt.....that's about the shape of it. The MWC might be the western Big East. Too bad for them they couldn't hang on to Utah and BYU.
November 10th, 2010 at 6:50 PM ^
With all these new up and coming programs into D1A college football, I wonder if and/or when there'll be a reckoning among the mid major schools. UTSA and Texas State are an hour and a 1/2 hour from Austin, TX, respectively. Which means their fans are going to be students and alumni - al other college football fans in their market will be UT fans. The same situation goes for Eastern Michigan, Western Kentucky, Louisiana-Lafayette, Alabama-Birmingham, and I'm sure plenty more I'm forgetting. I even feel like most of the people I've met who've gone to directional Michigan schools (with the notable exception of Central) are bigger fans of UM or MSU.
I know all the financial benefits that football brings at schools like Michigan, Texas, OSU, etc and the brand recognition they bring that can't be measured easily. And I believe D1A football has those same benefits for less profitable programs like MSU, Rutgers, Pitt, and even Central Michigan. But I have a hard time believing it'll have those benefits for newer programs playing in already crowded markets without an established fan base. With added pressure to federal and state budgets coming, I feel that this latest wave of new programs jumping to D1A may have a few success stories like USF or Boise State, but the vast majority of them and some of the other newer programs won't be playing D1A football in the near future.
November 10th, 2010 at 6:59 PM ^
I didn't know there was a Texas State. I thought Texas A&M was the equivalent of a Texas State.
November 10th, 2010 at 7:08 PM ^
Texas A&M I believe was the equivaent of Michigan State - as a land grant school (and a military school). UT was established later as the premier school, and Texas Tech was made for a regional school for West Texans.
At least that's what someone from Tech told me.
November 10th, 2010 at 8:13 PM ^
Texas A&M is comparable to MSU (A&M is slightly higher in US News' rankings). Texas State is the equivalent of like Northern Michigan.
November 10th, 2010 at 8:22 PM ^
Texas State used to be Southwest Texas State until they realized 1) they were the biggest and baddest school in the whole Texas State University System and 2) nobody had actually laid claim to the Texas State name yet.
November 10th, 2010 at 10:31 PM ^
They're actually on something like their 6th name.They had been Southwestern Texas State Normal School, then Southwestern Texas State Normal College, then Southwestern Texas State Teachers College, then Southwestern Texas State College, then Southwestern Texas State University, and then finally Texas State University - San Marcos.
Rather annoying. Part of the most recent change was an attempt to rebrand itself. The going joke around Texas was that their drinking team had a football problem. The school was, oddly, the party school destination in Texas. Go figure with it's past emphasis on education majors (aka high percentage of women students in a state known for some good looking women, and aka a major that doesn't require the most studious efforts).
They're also one of the largest universities in the state (behind UT, A&M, Tech, Baylor, & Houston), and ~50 in the nation.
Their football team isn't actually that bad in the FCS. They're consistently at the top of the Southland Conference, including 2 recent conference titles.
November 10th, 2010 at 10:57 PM ^
I'm pretty sure Texas State is where the officiating crew for the 2005 Alamo Bowl worked immediately prior to the game. They were well prepared if memory serves......
November 10th, 2010 at 11:03 PM ^
Refs don't work for schools. Those were Sun Belt refs. Horrible Sun Belt refs.
November 11th, 2010 at 11:22 AM ^
In all my years living and partying in Texas there is no easier group of woman then in San Marcos at Texas State. Lubbock is a distant 2nd
November 10th, 2010 at 7:36 PM ^
That's a pathetic list - is the conference even going to be whatever the current equivalent of Division I is?
November 10th, 2010 at 7:43 PM ^
I wonder if Montana took a look at that list and decided to wait for a better opportunity. That was the one school I could see coming in and not killing the WAC as a football conference. At this point I'd be surprised if the WAC lasts the decade.
November 10th, 2010 at 7:47 PM ^
This leaves the door open for Hawaii to become the new Boise State and San Jose State to maybe finally win a coupe of games...
November 10th, 2010 at 8:16 PM ^
Seriously...the CAA will be a better conference than the WAC and Sun Belt by that time. The FBS/FCS distinction makes sense, but I think the stadium requirements are hogwash, because without that, the CAA could petition to be in the FBS.
November 11th, 2010 at 10:43 AM ^
I think the stadium requirements are there to ensure a team has enough money to hack it in I-A. Scholarships and all that. You have to have some kind of barrier otherwise why bother with the distinction?
November 10th, 2010 at 10:31 PM ^
the WAC should've added Maine, UNH and Umass to settle any debates about which FBS conference is the most absurdly non-geographical