Attn: bluebloods, Harbaugh lovers...check out these stats

Submitted by steve sharik on

Stanford's defense, playing 9 upperclassmen and 2 sophomores on defense (compared to M playing 5 underclassmen, sometimes more and as many as 5 freshmen) gives up 626 yards and 52 points to a spread offense.

Oregon: 626 yards on 80 plays, 7.825 yd/play

Indiana: 568 yards on 98 plays, 5.8 yd/play

Michigan: 574 yards on 45 plays, 12.756 yd/play

Be careful what you wish for...

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M-Wolverine

October 3rd, 2010 at 12:20 PM ^

Because unless you take into account Oregon's offense > Indiana's offense, then it doesn't mean anything. And all the "arrrggghhhh see bluebloods (whatever that means) Stanford's no good on defense and Harbaugh's not the answer" seems to strongly insinuate that he's not as good a coach. Which may be the case. But you've shown no evidence to that point.

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detrocks

October 2nd, 2010 at 11:54 PM ^

Yeah, comparing Indiana to Oregon is a little ridiculous.   Secondly, I don't see anything good in taking pleasure in seeing one of Michigan's greats getting taken out to the woodshed in their biggest game of the year.

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ryanoe0610

October 2nd, 2010 at 11:55 PM ^

I always find it gratifying to see that these paleozoic offenses (like Stanford) have no chance to hang with a spread offense when it is executed properly. Makes me glad that we have the grandfather of the spread coaching our team.

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PhillipFulmersPants

October 3rd, 2010 at 9:07 AM ^

Stanford is 16th in total offense. Oregon is lights out. The Owusu fumble turned that game around, it looked to me.

I'm willing to wait to see how other teams fair against IU in the B10 before I make much of a judgement on what this game meant. I knew we'd give up yards, though not quite as many as that. Still I think IU will end up being a pretty prolific offense by year's end. They're Top 25 as of today. Teams with some more experience on the back end will likely make it tougher on them with their questionable running game. I suspect they'll end up top 30ish or 40ish.

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Mitch Cumstein

October 2nd, 2010 at 11:55 PM ^

You're that insecure about the current coach here that you have to troll about a coach coaching a different team across the country and his D letting up yards against the #4 ranked team in the country who is known for their offense? 

Please tell me you were watching the game and were depressed when Stanford opened up the lead, but became giddy (as it sounds from your post) when you saw Oregon score over and over in the 2nd half. Why don't we compare stats against a common opponent... Oh b/c you'd be even more insecure if that happened.

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JBE

October 2nd, 2010 at 11:56 PM ^

I do find it interesting that Stanford was held scoreless in the 2nd half.  Did Oregon completely nullify the Stanford offense with adjustments?

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Mitch Cumstein

October 3rd, 2010 at 12:13 AM ^

Stanford was still moving the ball, but they had a terribly costly turnover on one drive that set up an Oregon TD, and after that they really got away from their game plan and made some poor decisions.  They also went for it on 4th and goal from the 5 and didn't convert.  So they probably could have scored, had the game been w/in a FG. 

I'd say it was a combo of offensive adjustments by Oregon and some bad mistakes/play calls by Stanford.

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ST3

October 3rd, 2010 at 1:23 AM ^

Stanford was dominating the early part of the game, 21-3, I think. Oregon scored, recovered an on-side kick, and scored again. Stanford was a little deflated after that. Then, Stanford was the beneficiary of a dubious call on an interception (I thought it was accurate), but it didn't lead to any points. The Oregon fans really got into it after that, and it seemed the umps gave Oregon a couple make-up calls. The offensive pass interference on Stanford was horrible. Finally, an Oregon DB speared one of Stanford's better players (Owusu) and knocked him out. Momentum is such a huge part of the college game. That's why if I was playing Michigan this year, I'd want the ball first like Indiana and UMass. I hope UofM's kick return team is always ready for the on-side kick, because with the way our offense scores, I wouldn't be surprised if one or more gutsy coaches tries that against us this year, early in the game when you least expect it. It was a real game-changer for Oregon.   

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jmblue

October 2nd, 2010 at 11:56 PM ^

That can't be right.  After all, Harbaugh's pro-style, ball-control offense wears down the other team and protects the defense, or something.

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Mitch Cumstein

October 2nd, 2010 at 11:59 PM ^

But it surprised me that they got away from the run so early.  The entire 2nd half was Luck looking for recievers with not enough time to do it.  I thought it was actually pretty poor 3rd quarter play calling that did them in.  It became a token run on 1st down and then 2 passes, almost every drive.  Your post pretty much sums up the problem is that they didn't control the ball. 

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steve sharik

October 3rd, 2010 at 12:07 AM ^

...is to try to show all the "Fire Rich Rod! Hire Harbaugh! We need to go back to Michigan football!" types out there how ridiculous their notion of "Michigan Football" is, and their "Chosen One" might not be such a panacea after all.

Tennessee, with half a roster, yielded almost 200 yards less than Stanford, with a much weaker offense.  Ditto Arizona State, and Portland State only surrendered around 650 to the Ducks.

Listen, Harbaugh was a great player here, during a great coaching regime.  He's now a good young coach.  But is he "The Answer?"  Maybe, maybe not.  Is Rodriguez "The Answer?" Maybe, maybe not.

Coming into this season, Harbaugh hadn't come close to proving he's a better coach than Rodriguez, and the first part of this season hasn't, either.

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Danger Mouth

October 3rd, 2010 at 12:06 AM ^

Harbaugh = fantastic coach and Michigan legend, give the man his due. That said, this is why Rich Rod was hired in the first place, to bring Michigan football into the "new" era of the spread and beyond. Whether he will get a chance to build his dynasty is to be determined however our inability to stop that shit Troy Smith no doubt had something to do with our decision. I hate to say if you can't beat them join them and I do think Bill Martin is cognitively impaired but the spread is an undeniable beast that one can only hope to contain.

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FgoWolve

October 3rd, 2010 at 12:17 AM ^

Rich Rod has an astounding offense, maybe on par with Oregon. Jim Harbaugh has done an outstanding job at a elite, private institution like Stanford. That is about all we can glean here by comparing these two games. Not any grand conclusion of which coach or which scheme is the end all, be all answer.

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Papochronopolis

October 3rd, 2010 at 1:48 AM ^

I'm with you sharik RR is our man and while our defense is struggling I don't think a coaching change will do any good for us at this point

 

But regardless of numbers etc it was painful to see our defense today.  I was not planning on watching 42 min of nearly flawless IU offense.  We have to improve if we want to win big games.

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tenerson

October 3rd, 2010 at 3:15 AM ^

is the second best team in the Nation and I don't thin it's close. It goes:

1. Bama

2. Oregon

 

 

 

 

 

3. OSU

 

Oregon is for real this year.

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